Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi all,

The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text now 
and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I hear that 
Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, but I feel 
(based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause problems with 
NVDA.

What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to boot 
before I can read Farsi.

Thanks.
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Re: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Chris H
No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under 
software it all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to 
determine how fast a virtual machine can run. You are better off looking 
into Bootcamp. Then that way you can run the other operating system 
natively without waiting for any kind of virtual machine to boot up.


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On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:

Hi all,

The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text now 
and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I hear that 
Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, but I feel 
(based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause problems with 
NVDA.

What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to boot 
before I can read Farsi.

Thanks.
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Re: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi Chris,

What I mean by “quickest” is the quickest to switch to. If I use Bootcamp, I’d 
have to reboot, read the text, reboot again, and re-launch the apps I had open 
before rebooting.

With a VM, at least I wouldn’t lose open applications and wouldn’t have to 
reboot twice. :)
On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under software 
 it all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to determine how fast a 
 virtual machine can run. You are better off looking into Bootcamp. Then that 
 way you can run the other operating system natively without waiting for any 
 kind of virtual machine to boot up.
 
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 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text now 
 and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I hear 
 that Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, but I 
 feel (based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause problems 
 with NVDA.
 
 What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to 
 boot before I can read Farsi.
 
 Thanks.
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RE: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread David Griffith

VMWare Fusion is therefore your only accessible option as Parallels does not
provide accessible support.

I actually never use Boot Camp now as Fusion is so much quicker and
convenient.

David Griffith

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Hi Chris,

What I mean by quickest is the quickest to switch to. If I use Bootcamp,
I'd have to reboot, read the text, reboot again, and re-launch the apps I
had open before rebooting.

With a VM, at least I wouldn't lose open applications and wouldn't have to
reboot twice. :)
On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under
software it all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to determine
how fast a virtual machine can run. You are better off looking into
Bootcamp. Then that way you can run the other operating system natively
without waiting for any kind of virtual machine to boot up.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text
now and then, Im looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I hear
that Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, but I
feel (based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause problems
with NVDA.
 
 What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to
boot before I can read Farsi.
 
 Thanks.
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Re: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Chris H

True. Fusion is your only option then.

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On 27/11/2013 09:38, Parham Doustdar wrote:

Hi Chris,

What I mean by “quickest” is the quickest to switch to. If I use Bootcamp, I’d 
have to reboot, read the text, reboot again, and re-launch the apps I had open 
before rebooting.

With a VM, at least I wouldn’t lose open applications and wouldn’t have to 
reboot twice. :)
On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under software it 
all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to determine how fast a 
virtual machine can run. You are better off looking into Bootcamp. Then that 
way you can run the other operating system natively without waiting for any 
kind of virtual machine to boot up.

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On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:

Hi all,

The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text now 
and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I hear that 
Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, but I feel 
(based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause problems with 
NVDA.

What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to boot 
before I can read Farsi.

Thanks.
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Re: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Agree. fusion  is your only option, and it’s quite good, and very very 
accessible.  and the clipboards are interchangeable, meaning you can copy your 
text to the clip board from one os to another with out loosing changes. 

Take care. 
On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 True. Fusion is your only option then.
 
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 On 27/11/2013 09:38, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 
 What I mean by “quickest” is the quickest to switch to. If I use Bootcamp, 
 I’d have to reboot, read the text, reboot again, and re-launch the apps I 
 had open before rebooting.
 
 With a VM, at least I wouldn’t lose open applications and wouldn’t have to 
 reboot twice. :)
 On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under software 
 it all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to determine how fast 
 a virtual machine can run. You are better off looking into Bootcamp. Then 
 that way you can run the other operating system natively without waiting 
 for any kind of virtual machine to boot up.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text 
 now and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I 
 hear that Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, 
 but I feel (based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause 
 problems with NVDA.
 
 What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to 
 boot before I can read Farsi.
 
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Re: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Johnson
I've used NVDA with Virtualbox (free) in the past.  I recall it required 
some key remapping.


If I get a chance, I'll try it out again today.

Chris Johnson
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On 11/27/13, 7:16 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Agree. fusion  is your only option, and it’s quite good, and very very 
accessible.  and the clipboards are interchangeable, meaning you can copy your 
text to the clip board from one os to another with out loosing changes.

Take care.
On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


True. Fusion is your only option then.

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On 27/11/2013 09:38, Parham Doustdar wrote:

Hi Chris,

What I mean by “quickest” is the quickest to switch to. If I use Bootcamp, I’d 
have to reboot, read the text, reboot again, and re-launch the apps I had open 
before rebooting.

With a VM, at least I wouldn’t lose open applications and wouldn’t have to 
reboot twice. :)
On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under software it 
all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to determine how fast a 
virtual machine can run. You are better off looking into Bootcamp. Then that 
way you can run the other operating system natively without waiting for any 
kind of virtual machine to boot up.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:

Hi all,

The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text now 
and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I hear that 
Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under Mac, but I feel 
(based on previous experience using Wine) that this will cause problems with 
NVDA.

What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to boot 
before I can read Farsi.

Thanks.
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Re: How do you open an attachments in apple mail?

2013-11-27 Thread Sarah k Alawami
to open an attachment in apple mail, simply navigate to it and hit vo shift m 
or save all attachments to the desk top via the file menu and open them that 
way. I prefer the second way personally.

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Re: How do you open an attachments in apple mail?

2013-11-27 Thread Haghighi,Amin
Thanks..
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 to open an attachment in apple mail, simply navigate to it and hit vo shift m 
 or save all attachments to the desk top via the file menu and open them that 
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1Password iOS app on sale for Thanksgiving [was Re: Apps that Love 1Password: Delivery Status touch | Agile Blog]

2013-11-27 Thread Esther
Hi Dane,

Thanks for the head's up on 1Password and Deliver Status Touch.  I have had 
both these apps (before I even got an iPhone) on my iPod Touch since 2009.  
I'll have to update my version of Delivery Status Touch.  I see that the latest 
release (5.0.1, November 26, 2013) lists VoiceOver improvements.  That must 
have been one of the iOS 7 changes, since I never had problems with any of the 
previous versions not working fully with VoiceOver on iPhone or iPad.  (But 
then, I don't automatically update apps.)

By the way, it's worth a separate post, but 1Password for iOS devices just went 
on sale for Thanksgiving:
1Password - Password Manager and Secure Wallet ($9.99 on sale, usually $19.99) 
by Agile Bits
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335?mt=8

It's not as low as the $7.99 sale price of this August, but pretty good.  I 
know this is expensive, but I think it's worth it, especially used in 
combination with 1Password on the Mac (which is not on sale -- at least not 
yet).  Also, since my 1Password Pro license for iOS devices was a Christmas 
freebie by the developers back in 2009, I've gotten my money's worth out of 
their products!

Cheers,

Esther

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 http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/11/26/apps-that-love-1password-delivery-status-touch/
  
 
 
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Re: 1Password iOS app on sale for Thanksgiving [was Re: Apps that Love 1Password: Delivery Status touch | Agile Blog]

2013-11-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
1 Password has become indispensable in in my computing likfe whether it be on 
IOS, on the Mac, on Windows or other platforms and if security matters to you 
then the price for this application - whatever platforms you choose to run it 
on - is of little concern, I'd rather have a whole heap of secured objectes 
such as Passwords and other details at hand than not have them that way.


On 28 Nov 2013, at 9:48 am, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Dane,
 
 Thanks for the head's up on 1Password and Deliver Status Touch.  I have had 
 both these apps (before I even got an iPhone) on my iPod Touch since 2009.  
 I'll have to update my version of Delivery Status Touch.  I see that the 
 latest release (5.0.1, November 26, 2013) lists VoiceOver improvements.  That 
 must have been one of the iOS 7 changes, since I never had problems with any 
 of the previous versions not working fully with VoiceOver on iPhone or iPad.  
 (But then, I don't automatically update apps.)
 
 By the way, it's worth a separate post, but 1Password for iOS devices just 
 went on sale for Thanksgiving:
 1Password - Password Manager and Secure Wallet ($9.99 on sale, usually 
 $19.99) by Agile Bits
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335?mt=8
 
 It's not as low as the $7.99 sale price of this August, but pretty good.  I 
 know this is expensive, but I think it's worth it, especially used in 
 combination with 1Password on the Mac (which is not on sale -- at least not 
 yet).  Also, since my 1Password Pro license for iOS devices was a Christmas 
 freebie by the developers back in 2009, I've gotten my money's worth out of 
 their products!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 Now how brilliant will this be? Guess I'll have to try it for myself 
 eventually.
 http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/11/26/apps-that-love-1password-delivery-status-touch/
  
 
 
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Text Extractor

2013-11-27 Thread Marcia Yale
This OCR app for the Mac was and may still be on sale. Does anyone have any
experience with it using VoiceOver? I would like an inexpensive OCR app for
my Mac and hope this one is accessible.


Marcia Yale
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Re: 1Password iOS app on sale for Thanksgiving [was Re: Apps that Love 1Password: Delivery Status touch | Agile Blog]

2013-11-27 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi,

This app has been suggested to me for the Mac side. My question for the iPhone 
is: Is this version only running on iOS 7? I'm still running 6.1.2 and was 
wondering if I needed to download it through iTunes or directly onto the phone. 
Please advise, as I don't want to lose out on getting it.

Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 1 Password has become indispensable in in my computing likfe whether it be on 
 IOS, on the Mac, on Windows or other platforms and if security matters to you 
 then the price for this application - whatever platforms you choose to run it 
 on - is of little concern, I'd rather have a whole heap of secured objectes 
 such as Passwords and other details at hand than not have them that way.
 
 
 On 28 Nov 2013, at 9:48 am, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Dane,
 
 Thanks for the head's up on 1Password and Deliver Status Touch.  I have had 
 both these apps (before I even got an iPhone) on my iPod Touch since 2009.  
 I'll have to update my version of Delivery Status Touch.  I see that the 
 latest release (5.0.1, November 26, 2013) lists VoiceOver improvements.  
 That must have been one of the iOS 7 changes, since I never had problems 
 with any of the previous versions not working fully with VoiceOver on iPhone 
 or iPad.  (But then, I don't automatically update apps.)
 
 By the way, it's worth a separate post, but 1Password for iOS devices just 
 went on sale for Thanksgiving:
 1Password - Password Manager and Secure Wallet ($9.99 on sale, usually 
 $19.99) by Agile Bits
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335?mt=8
 
 It's not as low as the $7.99 sale price of this August, but pretty good.  I 
 know this is expensive, but I think it's worth it, especially used in 
 combination with 1Password on the Mac (which is not on sale -- at least not 
 yet).  Also, since my 1Password Pro license for iOS devices was a Christmas 
 freebie by the developers back in 2009, I've gotten my money's worth out of 
 their products!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 Now how brilliant will this be? Guess I'll have to try it for myself 
 eventually.
 http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/11/26/apps-that-love-1password-delivery-status-touch/
  
 
 
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Re: 1Password iOS app on sale for Thanksgiving [was Re: Apps that Love 1Password: Delivery Status touch | Agile Blog]

2013-11-27 Thread Dane Trethowan
It will work in earlier versions of IOS.


On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:06 am, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 This app has been suggested to me for the Mac side. My question for the 
 iPhone is: Is this version only running on iOS 7? I'm still running 6.1.2 and 
 was wondering if I needed to download it through iTunes or directly onto the 
 phone. Please advise, as I don't want to lose out on getting it.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 1 Password has become indispensable in in my computing likfe whether it be 
 on IOS, on the Mac, on Windows or other platforms and if security matters to 
 you then the price for this application - whatever platforms you choose to 
 run it on - is of little concern, I'd rather have a whole heap of secured 
 objectes such as Passwords and other details at hand than not have them that 
 way.
 
 
 On 28 Nov 2013, at 9:48 am, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Dane,
 
 Thanks for the head's up on 1Password and Deliver Status Touch.  I have had 
 both these apps (before I even got an iPhone) on my iPod Touch since 2009.  
 I'll have to update my version of Delivery Status Touch.  I see that the 
 latest release (5.0.1, November 26, 2013) lists VoiceOver improvements.  
 That must have been one of the iOS 7 changes, since I never had problems 
 with any of the previous versions not working fully with VoiceOver on 
 iPhone or iPad.  (But then, I don't automatically update apps.)
 
 By the way, it's worth a separate post, but 1Password for iOS devices just 
 went on sale for Thanksgiving:
 1Password - Password Manager and Secure Wallet ($9.99 on sale, usually 
 $19.99) by Agile Bits
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335?mt=8
 
 It's not as low as the $7.99 sale price of this August, but pretty good.  I 
 know this is expensive, but I think it's worth it, especially used in 
 combination with 1Password on the Mac (which is not on sale -- at least not 
 yet).  Also, since my 1Password Pro license for iOS devices was a Christmas 
 freebie by the developers back in 2009, I've gotten my money's worth out of 
 their products!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 Now how brilliant will this be? Guess I'll have to try it for myself 
 eventually.
 http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/11/26/apps-that-love-1password-delivery-status-touch/
  
 
 
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Re: 1Password iOS app on sale for Thanksgiving [was Re: Apps that Love 1Password: Delivery Status touch | Agile Blog]

2013-11-27 Thread Esther
Hi Eileen,

The App Store description states that 1Password will work for iOS 6.0 and 
above. This is a universal app, for those of you who have iPads, too.  Also, 
you can enable Dropbox syncing/backup in this app, or sync through WiFi or 
through the cloud,  The reason that the earlier version of 1Password on iOS 
(that I got free one Christmas, some years ago, and was able to update until 
August) finally got removed is that Dropbox removed the ability to do syncs and 
backups some time in September.  The older version still works, but they had to 
remove it because the sync and backup through Dropbox could no longer be 
supported for automatic syncing with their Mac app, although you can still sync 
on a direct WiFi connection.  Agile Bits took a lot of flack from users who 
thought they were being forced to buy new versions because the developer 
decided to remove the old app, and then pay for the new app.  They'd just 
gotten through rewriting the Mac app, and also make fixes for Mavericks and
  iOS 7, so the price seems high.

Here's the App Store link again 
1Password - Password Manager and Secure Wallet ($9.99 on sale, usually $19.99) 
by Agile Bits
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335?mt=8

They may not put the Mac version of 1Password on sale this Thanksgiving, the 
way they did last year.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 It will work in earlier versions of IOS.
 
 
 On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:06 am, Eileens Misrahi wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This app has been suggested to me for the Mac side. My question for the 
 iPhone is: Is this version only running on iOS 7? I'm still running 6.1.2 
 and was wondering if I needed to download it through iTunes or directly onto 
 the phone. Please advise, as I don't want to lose out on getting it.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 1 Password has become indispensable in in my computing likfe whether it be 
 on IOS, on the Mac, on Windows or other platforms and if security matters 
 to you then the price for this application - whatever platforms you choose 
 to run it on - is of little concern, I'd rather have a whole heap of 
 secured objectes such as Passwords and other details at hand than not have 
 them that way.
 
 
 On 28 Nov 2013, at 9:48 am, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Dane,
 
 Thanks for the head's up on 1Password and Deliver Status Touch.  I have 
 had both these apps (before I even got an iPhone) on my iPod Touch since 
 2009.  I'll have to update my version of Delivery Status Touch.  I see 
 that the latest release (5.0.1, November 26, 2013) lists VoiceOver 
 improvements.  That must have been one of the iOS 7 changes, since I never 
 had problems with any of the previous versions not working fully with 
 VoiceOver on iPhone or iPad.  (But then, I don't automatically update 
 apps.)
 
 By the way, it's worth a separate post, but 1Password for iOS devices just 
 went on sale for Thanksgiving:
 1Password - Password Manager and Secure Wallet ($9.99 on sale, usually 
 $19.99) by Agile Bits
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335?mt=8
 
 It's not as low as the $7.99 sale price of this August, but pretty good.  
 I know this is expensive, but I think it's worth it, especially used in 
 combination with 1Password on the Mac (which is not on sale -- at least 
 not yet).  Also, since my 1Password Pro license for iOS devices was a 
 Christmas freebie by the developers back in 2009, I've gotten my money's 
 worth out of their products!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 Now how brilliant will this be? Guess I'll have to try it for myself 
 eventually.
 http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/11/26/apps-that-love-1password-delivery-status-touch/
  
 
 
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Re: Text Extractor

2013-11-27 Thread Esther
Hello Marcia,

Text Extractor is not an accessible app, and has a slew of unlabeled buttons, 
but I was able to get it to work with VoiceOver after some painful 
experimentation. This app fails on a lot of inputs that ABBYY FineReader would 
handle without problems.  It's also very slow to do the OCR, and one of the 
difficulty in trying to use it is that you can't tell what is happening while 
it is working.  The only way I was first able to tell that it was still working 
(and this was processing a single page input PDF that was a scan sent to me as 
a mail attachment) was by checking the File menu on the menu bar and seeing 
that the Cancel Extraction option was still active while the 
StartExtraction option stayed dimmed.  I later found the progress bar at the 
end of the window. The main reasons I was willing to take a look at this app 
were that: (1) It was discounted to $1.99 (from $12.99) for Two-Dollar 
Tuesday, and 2) a check of reviews described this app as having decent 
accuracy (meaning better than 90%, which is not great by OCR standards) for a 
relatively low price, despite being slow to run.  This does not take into 
account that the interface is not accessible (which you couldn't tell from the 
reviews).

Since you may have bought this already, judging from your posted query, I'll 
tell you how I managed to use this.   The results were not bad for the case I 
was finally able to succeed with.  But frankly, for anyone who has an iPhone, 
iPod Touch, or iPad, my advice would be to buy Prizmo for iOS (which just went 
on sale for $4.99), and use that instead.  Not only did it OCR the same mail 
attached PDF file about 20 times faster, but it only took a few key presses on 
my iPhone, the whole process was accessible with VoiceOver, and I suspect that 
the accuracy rate is higher (if I were willing to spend more time testing the 
Text Extractor app).  The extra $3 for the improved speed, accuracy and 
accessibility of Prizmo on iOS is worth it.  The only advantage, in terms of 
your initial objective, is that Text Extractor is running on the Mac, and the 
fact that it's currently $1.99.

OK, here's how I was able to use Text Extractor on the Mac. When you open the 
window, it has a slew of unlabeled buttons.  Some of them are for dealing with 
the input image and rotating it.  (This reminds me that Prizmo will also work 
even if the image is upside down or rotated by 90 degrees -- you down't even 
have to adjust this!).  
1. The first unlabeled button is for Open File.  You could also use Command-O 
to bring up the same dialog window to select a file, or you could select the 
file from the File menu on the menu bar, which is the first way I tried this. 
 
2. The next controls will be dimmed until you select a file.  This is a 
checkbox for turning on OCR.  VoiceOver will say OCR: Off, then dimmed 
unchecked checkbox, then On.  If you have opened a file, the checkbox will 
not be dimmed. VO-space to check this so that OCR is turned on.
3. The next pop up button is for the OCR language.  I left this on English 
but other options are Dutch, French, German, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, 
Russian, Spanish, and Swedish.
4. The next pop up button is for All Pages or Current Page.  I left this on 
All Pages.
5. The next unlabeled button is for Extract.  The File menu has shortcut 
options for starting and canceling the extraction (Command-Option-S and 
Command-Option-C).  In practice, it's easier to navigate the GUI and use the 
buttons (once you label them).  If you use the default shortcuts for opening a 
file (Command-O) and starting an extraction (Command-Option-S), the OCR 
function won't be turned on.  There's no preference file where you can set this 
up as a default.
6.  The next sets of unlabeled buttons deal with the input image window.  The 
first two must be Previous and Next, because the selected page number of 
the text changes (1 of 2 or 2 of 2) when these are pressed.  Then there are 
a whole bunch of other unlabeled buttons (8 in total) that do things like 
rotating images and other things that I can't check.
7.  The last of the unlabeled buttons is the Save as button that only works 
when the extraction is finished.  This lets you specify the name and location 
of the OCR'ed text.  After this button there is Text, where the image input 
file appears, and then a vertical splitter, and an Edit Text window that is 
blank until the extraction is finished. Once the  extraction finishes, you can 
navigate to this window and read the result.  VO-Left back to the unlabeled 
button to press it (VO-space) and save contents to a text file.
8.  At the end of the Edit Text window, once extraction starts, is a progress 
indicator.

I think this is a complete description of the Text Extractor GUI. In the Help 
menu on the menu bar there is a Technical Support option that takes you to 
the web page.  A lot of the description uses embedded images.

Hope this helps.  For anyone else who is 

Re: Question: the quickest way to use the NVDA screen reader on my Mac

2013-11-27 Thread Parham Doustdar
Hi all,

Thanks a lot for the informative answers.
On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agree. fusion  is your only option, and it’s quite good, and very very 
 accessible.  and the clipboards are interchangeable, meaning you can copy 
 your text to the clip board from one os to another with out loosing changes. 
 
 Take care. 
 On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 True. Fusion is your only option then.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 27/11/2013 09:38, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 
 What I mean by “quickest” is the quickest to switch to. If I use Bootcamp, 
 I’d have to reboot, read the text, reboot again, and re-launch the apps I 
 had open before rebooting.
 
 With a VM, at least I wouldn’t lose open applications and wouldn’t have to 
 reboot twice. :)
 On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No such animal exists. Because virtual machines run entirely under 
 software it all depends on how fast your ram and processor is to determine 
 how fast a virtual machine can run. You are better off looking into 
 Bootcamp. Then that way you can run the other operating system natively 
 without waiting for any kind of virtual machine to boot up.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 27/11/2013 07:53, Parham Doustdar wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The NVDA screen reader reads Farsi text. Since I need to read Farsi text 
 now and then, I”m looking for the quickest way to run NVDA under Mac. I 
 hear that Parallel Desktops allows running Windows applications under 
 Mac, but I feel (based on previous experience using Wine) that this will 
 cause problems with NVDA.
 
 What I want to avoid is constantly waiting for Windows virtual machine to 
 boot before I can read Farsi.
 
 Thanks.
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