Re: Adium as of today

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy
That's not good enough. Three months without a fix? Surely this can be 
fixed quicker than that.


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On 17/03/2014 01:53, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Oh trust me they are quite broken, have been for the past 3 months worth of 
nightly builds. I have not done a complete reset of the app  to see if that 
would clear it, but here you go.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1996585

I hope this can get looked at.

Take care to all and enjoy.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Christopher gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
wrote:


What are you having issues with within the prefs?  They read perfectly fine 
here last I looked, but then again, I'm not on the nightly build.

Chris.

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Subject: Re: Adium as of today



it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the nightly 
build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't like the 
system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. If they're 
connected then to me they're online or in some other status other than offline 
so don't need to know whether they're connected as well as their actual status. 
As a result I gave up on it. Any comments greatly appreciated.
--
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Re: Adium as of today

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy
You're never going to believe this but Firefox on the other platform 
called this website untrusted. Lol!


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On 17/03/2014 00:46, Christopher gilland wrote:

It's free, and no.

go to:

http://www.adiumx.com

Chris.

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Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
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Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just
updated or
pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
wrote:


True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but
didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then
online.
If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other
status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any
comments
greatly appreciated.
--
Regards Chris

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Re: Adium as of today

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy
It's sorted now thanks to my own messing. Turned out I had it speak when 
contact returns from away and or idle causing it to say contact become 
active which I didn't really want. What I'd like to see though is the 
ability to preview what will be spoken for that event. It's all very 
well having it speak the event aloud but what will it actually say? We 
don't know till it actually happens. Now as for sounds they play just 
fine in the events table. Otherwise I like it and consider using it full 
time if I choose not to use Skype.


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On 17/03/2014 00:44, Christopher gilland wrote:

I never have had that problem, ever.  You have to be sure that you set
your events up correctly, but as long as you do that, it works very very
well.

Chris.

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Subject: Adium as of today



How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then
online. If they're connected then to me they're online or in some
other status other than offline so don't need to know whether they're
connected as well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it.
Any comments greatly appreciated.
--
Regards Chris

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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy
I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. 
I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the 
VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or 
characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome 
and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed 
thanks to quicknav.


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On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
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You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
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Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: VO not announcingfolders in mail

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy

Look in the view menu I saw option to expand or collapse in there.

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On 16/03/2014 23:15, JAKE JOEHL wrote:

I am getting the “expanded” and collapsed” messages spoken by VoiceOver. But 
what I’m wondering is this. Is there a setting that will permanently expand the 
messages conversations? I’ve looked but can’t find anything to that effect.
Jake
JAKE JOEHL
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On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:


Are you sure it is not saying expanded and collapsed? normally if it odes that 
you know there are subfolders and stuff.

Take care.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote:


Running Mavericks,
as I go through my mail boxes it does not announce if there are sub boxes 
within the boxes or folders.

Fortunately, I know which ones do then I right arrow to open it up.
left arrow to close.

How can I get this info each timeas not all mail boxes do this?

Mark
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to 6 will 
move through heading levels 1 to 6!
If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation and a 
button to show info about what key does what!
HTH Colin.
On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. I 
 also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the VoiceOver 
 rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or characters even 
 if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome and makes using the 
 mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed thanks to quicknav.
 
 Regards Chris

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RE: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread David Griffith
That is it precisely.
Remember also that you can interact with quick nav down and right arrow.
Un interact  down and left arrow.
Up and down arrow together is the same as vo space.

However The voiceover  lock keys are useful if you are also using lots of
other voiceover  commands in a sequence of tasks as well as navigation.  For
example a powerful feature of Voiceover is its ability to copy not just text
but any content spoken through Voiceover . you may repeatedly want to use VO
C to copy last phrase spoken to clipboard.  This becomes simply shift C.
Also it helps if you are doing lots of virtual mouse clicks then you can use
shift spacebar rather than shift vo spacebar.   However for straightforward
navigation purposes Quick Nav is far simpler and far more powerful on the
web.

David Griffith 


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 16 March 2014 23:33
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
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From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


 You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages 
 where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see what I 
 mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web elements 
 but these are off by default but can be turned on in VoiceOver Utility, 
 commanders, quicknav tab.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
 are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get
 to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
 error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
 - Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
 christopher...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


 Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
 them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
 To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
 left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open 
 my
 Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
 over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
 where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there 
anything I need to do with the button?


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to 6 
will move through heading levels 1 to 6!

If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation and a 
button to show info about what key does what!

HTH Colin.
On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. 
I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the 
VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or 
characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome 
and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed 
thanks to quicknav.


Regards Chris


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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke

How do I use quick nav for words and characters?
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. I 
also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the 
VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or 
characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome 
and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed 
thanks to quicknav.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only 
get

to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the 
voice

over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy
To use the rotor press up-left arrows or up-right arrows together until 
it says words or characters. To navigate simply use the up or down arrow 
keys, not together but individually.


Regards Chris

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On 17/03/2014 11:03, Eleanor Burke wrote:

How do I use quick nav for words and characters?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
it one handed thanks to quicknav.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can
only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the
voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Apple boy
There's no button anywhere in this window. You should however be able to 
start keyboard help with vo-k from within a web page. To stop keyboard 
help press escape.


Regards Chris

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On 17/03/2014 11:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there
anything I need to do with the button?

Eleanor
- Original Message - From: Red.Falcon
velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to
6 will move through heading levels 1 to 6!
If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation
and a button to show info about what key does what!
HTH Colin.
On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
wrote:


I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
it one handed thanks to quicknav.

Regards Chris


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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Red.Falcon
Ok Sorry Chris I'm not sure what OS your running but On mine running Mountain 
Kitty there is a button but it is to see what keys are active and if needed a 
option to add new ones!

And Eleanor!
There is need to do anything unless one of the keys are not doing what it is 
supposed too!
But a good way to see the options without messing with the key settings is to 
open VO+HH and arrow down to Quick Nav and go into that menu and all the keys 
are listed and what they do!
HTH Colin
On 17 Mar 2014, at 12:32, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's no button anywhere in this window. You should however be able to 
 start keyboard help with vo-k from within a web page. To stop keyboard help 
 press escape.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 17/03/2014 11:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there
 anything I need to do with the button?
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon
 velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys
 
 
 Hi!
 Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
 And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to
 6 will move through heading levels 1 to 6!
 If that is useful to you!
 Hi!
 OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
 2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
 3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
 4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation
 and a button to show info about what key does what!
 HTH Colin.
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
 name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
 use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
 words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
 so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
 it one handed thanks to quicknav.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread Juaanita Marttin
We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted daughter will 
be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but it 
doesn’t support 10.9.  
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Re: voice over speed hack for osx

2014-03-17 Thread Travis Siegel
Actually, it isn't necessary to install Xcode, though it does give you  
dashboard which organizes the plist files nicely, and let's you see  
what goes where.
These plist files are plain text files.  Simply open them in text edit  
or something similar, and edit away.  Just be sure not to overwrite  
any of the xml tags, or the settings won't be understood by vo, and  
all your hard work would be in vane.

hth.

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RE: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread David Griffith
You don't turn quick nav off for that.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 17 March 2014 11:04
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

How do I use quick nav for words and characters?
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


 I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. I

 also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the 
 VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or 
 characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome 
 and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed 
 thanks to quicknav.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
 - Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
 christopher...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
 Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


 You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
 where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
 what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
 elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
 VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
 are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only 
 get
 to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
 error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
 - Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
 christopher...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


 Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
 them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
 To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
 left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

 Regards Chris

 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

 On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
 open my
 Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the 
 voice
 over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
 where it requires both hands?
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread isaac
Is there a update to the software.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but 
 it doesn’t support 10.9.  
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread isaac
Try updating the software.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but 
 it doesn’t support 10.9.  
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Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-17 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Eleanor,

Yes, I think this might be a feature request worth posting to the Apple 
Accessibility Team. They can be reached via email at accessibil...@apple.com

HTH,
Bryan


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:
for Zoom.  However, one thing I do notice is that as I use reverse colours, 
black background and white text, the mouse is white too, however, unless I have 
the window maxamised, then the white mouse can get lost in the area of the 
screen below a window that is not maxamised.  This however is something that 
Apple could alter I am sure if in accessability they provided different colour 
mouse pointers. 

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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread Juanita Martin
Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's computer.  
I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.  


sent from my phone
 


 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but 
 it doesn’t support 10.9.  
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread isaac
To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover 
will come on.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's 
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.  
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc 
 but it doesn’t support 10.9.  
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need to delete a dropbox folder out of Voice Dream

2014-03-17 Thread meadowlark77
Hello y'all,

I have a strange question. I had a folder that corrupted in dropbox and 
had to delete it. So, it went off my phone. But when I regained my purchases 
and all and could restore Voice Dream to my iPad Mini, that folder is 
mentioned in Voice Dream, as my default dropbox folder that I decided to put 
my books into. How do I delete it out of Voice Dream, when it is no longer 
in Dropbox? For some reason, it did not default to the present folder that 
my books from bookshare or gutenberg would go into.

Thanks in advance,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net 

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RE: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread wayne17a
Hi try using the fn key with f5and see if that works 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of isaac
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:33 AM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Printing wireless with Mac

To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
will come on.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
wrote:

 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.  
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it
has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the network
name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted
daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread Red.Falcon
It might be that under Accessibility in System pref's the voiceover check box 
is not checked so Command+f5 would not work, so [forgive pun] have a look 
there! *smile*
Colin

On 17 Mar 2014, at 15:03, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi try using the fn key with f5and see if that works 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of isaac
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:33 AM
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Printing wireless with Mac
 
 To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
 will come on.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.  
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
 jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it
 has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the network
 name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted
 daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from
 disc but it doesn't support 10.9.  
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread alberto
Hi, have you tried fn command f5?
On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's 
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.  
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc 
 but it doesn’t support 10.9.  
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread Rodney Haynie
When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
Good luck.
-Rodney


On 3/17/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
 will come on.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:

 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.


 sent from my phone



 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
 jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know
 it has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the
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 My sighted daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run
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Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Brian, I wonder if there are any keyboard commands to control Zoomtext, 
e.g. increasing and decreasing the magnification and exiting Zoomtext.  I 
did resolve the mouse issue by increasing the speed.
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From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext



Hello Eleanor,

Yes, I think this might be a feature request worth posting to the Apple 
Accessibility Team. They can be reached via email at 
accessibil...@apple.com


HTH,
Bryan


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wrote:
for Zoom.  However, one thing I do notice is that as I use reverse 
colours, black background and white text, the mouse is white too, however, 
unless I have the window maxamised, then the white mouse can get lost in 
the area of the screen below a window that is not maxamised.  This however 
is something that Apple could alter I am sure if in accessability they 
provided different colour mouse pointers.


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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke

Excellent thanks Chris.
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From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


To use the rotor press up-left arrows or up-right arrows together until it 
says words or characters. To navigate simply use the up or down arrow 
keys, not together but individually.


Regards Chris

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On 17/03/2014 11:03, Eleanor Burke wrote:

How do I use quick nav for words and characters?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
it one handed thanks to quicknav.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can
only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial 
and

error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the
voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Great Colin, much appreciate that.  Like you I have a button there but will 
leave alone and take other advice given re exploring what the commands do 
with vo hh.
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From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


Ok Sorry Chris I'm not sure what OS your running but On mine running 
Mountain Kitty there is a button but it is to see what keys are active and 
if needed a option to add new ones!


And Eleanor!
There is need to do anything unless one of the keys are not doing what it 
is supposed too!
But a good way to see the options without messing with the key settings is 
to open VO+HH and arrow down to Quick Nav and go into that menu and all 
the keys are listed and what they do!

HTH Colin
On 17 Mar 2014, at 12:32, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:


There's no button anywhere in this window. You should however be able to 
start keyboard help with vo-k from within a web page. To stop keyboard 
help press escape.


Regards Chris

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On 17/03/2014 11:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there
anything I need to do with the button?

Eleanor
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velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to
6 will move through heading levels 1 to 6!
If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation
and a button to show info about what key does what!
HTH Colin.
On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
wrote:


I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
it one handed thanks to quicknav.

Regards Chris


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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread Juanita Martin
I have no clue as to where I am in the log in process.  This is my sighted 
daughter's computer and VO hasn't been tried on it until this morning.  I will 
tell her to update the software though.  

sent from my phone
 


 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
 Good luck.
 -Rodney
 
 
 On 3/17/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
 will come on.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
 jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know
 it has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the
 network name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.
 My sighted daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run
 the software from disc but it doesn't support 10.9.
 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
 Good luck.
 -Rodney
 
 
 On 3/17/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
 will come on.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
 jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know
 it has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the
 network name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.
 My sighted daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run
 the software from disc but it doesn't support 10.9.
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Re: voice over speed hack for osx

2014-03-17 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Lol. I've seen them, for me XCode is a lot easier and I can't make a my stake 
and brake things as badly. and it might be easier for the intermiaded user 
which I am.

Take care.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:

 Actually, it isn't necessary to install Xcode, though it does give you 
 dashboard which organizes the plist files nicely, and let's you see what goes 
 where.
 These plist files are plain text files.  Simply open them in text edit or 
 something similar, and edit away.  Just be sure not to overwrite any of the 
 xml tags, or the settings won't be understood by vo, and all your hard work 
 would be in vane.
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Re: Adium as of today

2014-03-17 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Well, for some reason I can't report a ticket as it errors out with a field I 
already filled in.

I might or might not try again. We'llsee what happens.

Take care.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:57 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's not good enough. Three months without a fix? Surely this can be fixed 
 quicker than that.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 17/03/2014 01:53, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 Oh trust me they are quite broken, have been for the past 3 months worth of 
 nightly builds. I have not done a complete reset of the app  to see if that 
 would clear it, but here you go.
 
 http://audioboo.fm/boos/1996585
 
 I hope this can get looked at.
 
 Take care to all and enjoy.
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Christopher gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
 wrote:
 
 What are you having issues with within the prefs?  They read perfectly fine 
 here last I looked, but then again, I'm not on the nightly build.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Adium as of today
 
 
 it works, how ever the prefs don't read well at all. I'm using the nightly 
 build btw. but yeah it works even  better then before.
 
 Take care.
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't 
 like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online. 
 If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status 
 other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as 
 well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments 
 greatly appreciated.
 --
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Re: VO not announcingfolders in mail

2014-03-17 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You can do that in the view mini, yes, even set up a keyboard hsotcut, but I 
would not recommend doing this. it would just make a big mess of things and 
probably take up mor system resources then I care to know at this point in time.

take care.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:44 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look in the view menu I saw option to expand or collapse in there.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 16/03/2014 23:15, JAKE JOEHL wrote:
 I am getting the “expanded” and collapsed” messages spoken by VoiceOver. But 
 what I’m wondering is this. Is there a setting that will permanently expand 
 the messages conversations? I’ve looked but can’t find anything to that 
 effect.
 Jake
 JAKE JOEHL
 jajo...@att.net
 
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you sure it is not saying expanded and collapsed? normally if it odes 
 that you know there are subfolders and stuff.
 
 Take care.
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Running Mavericks,
 as I go through my mail boxes it does not announce if there are sub boxes 
 within the boxes or folders.
 
 Fortunately, I know which ones do then I right arrow to open it up.
 left arrow to close.
 
 How can I get this info each timeas not all mail boxes do this?
 
 Mark
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

2014-03-17 Thread alberto
Hi, if she tells you where you are on the computer that may help.  If you are 
somewhere like in the desk top you should be fine, but if she has already set a 
password on the mac it will be a little tougher for you to get VO to work if 
she didn’t enable voice over to work on the lock screen when she set it up.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I have no clue as to where I am in the log in process.  This is my sighted 
 daughter's computer and VO hasn't been tried on it until this morning.  I 
 will tell her to update the software though.  
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
 Good luck.
 -Rodney
 
 
 On 3/17/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
 will come on.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
 jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know
 it has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the
 network name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.
 My sighted daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run
 the software from disc but it doesn't support 10.9.
 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
 Good luck.
 -Rodney
 
 
 On 3/17/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
 will come on.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
 How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
 computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
 jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know
 it has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the
 network name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.
 My sighted daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run
 the software from disc but it doesn't support 10.9.
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread chris
So there is! It is under Mavericks as well. The button is actually called 
assign commands button. Another awesome discovery I made with VoiceOver today!
Regards Chris
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On 17 Mar 2014, at 12:56, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:

 Ok Sorry Chris I'm not sure what OS your running but On mine running Mountain 
 Kitty there is a button but it is to see what keys are active and if needed a 
 option to add new ones!
 
 And Eleanor!
 There is need to do anything unless one of the keys are not doing what it is 
 supposed too!
 But a good way to see the options without messing with the key settings is to 
 open VO+HH and arrow down to Quick Nav and go into that menu and all the keys 
 are listed and what they do!
 HTH Colin
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 12:32, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There's no button anywhere in this window. You should however be able to 
 start keyboard help with vo-k from within a web page. To stop keyboard help 
 press escape.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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 On 17/03/2014 11:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there
 anything I need to do with the button?
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon
 velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys
 
 
 Hi!
 Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
 And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to
 6 will move through heading levels 1 to 6!
 If that is useful to you!
 Hi!
 OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
 2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
 3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
 4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation
 and a button to show info about what key does what!
 HTH Colin.
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
 name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
 use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
 words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
 so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
 it one handed thanks to quicknav.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-17 Thread Bryan Jones
Yes, there are hotkeys for zoomtext mac. Google is your friend. A quick search 
for keywords “zoomtext mac hotkeys” returned a long list of results, the first 
of which is a youtube video with a well done audio track describing zoomtext 
mac hotkeys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfGub8jhXmg

HTH,
Bryan

On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Hi Brian, I wonder if there are any keyboard commands to control Zoomtext, 
 e.g. increasing and decreasing the magnification and exiting Zoomtext.  I did 
 resolve the mouse issue by increasing the speed.

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Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
thank you Brian unfortunately for me to text does not work in association with 
voice-over this is very disappointing however I shall endeavour to dry it out 
for the 60 day demo

Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 17:47, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes, there are hotkeys for zoomtext mac. Google is your friend. A quick 
 search for keywords “zoomtext mac hotkeys” returned a long list of results, 
 the first of which is a youtube video with a well done audio track describing 
 zoomtext mac hotkeys.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfGub8jhXmg
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Brian, I wonder if there are any keyboard commands to control Zoomtext, 
 e.g. increasing and decreasing the magnification and exiting Zoomtext.  I 
 did resolve the mouse issue by increasing the speed.
 
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Updating HP Wireless Printer Software for Mavericks [was Re: Printing wireless with Mac]

2014-03-17 Thread Esther
Hello Juanita,

For VoiceOver on the MacBook Pro, if Command-F5 or Fn-Command-F5 does not work, 
you may need your daughter to set up a separate account for you, so VoiceOver 
can be configured to come up automatically, or else have her configure the 
system preference settings under Accessibility for her account, so that you can 
easily bring up VoiceOver with Command-F5.  As others have said, you may need 
to know where you are in the login process to get VoiceOver to turn on.

You asked:
We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
password.  The printer is trying to use our old info. My sighted daughter will 
be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but it 
doesn't support 10.9.

For the HP-specific part of your question, there are support web pages on 
updating the printer drivers for Mavericks using Apple's Software Update, and 
also on replacing a router for their wireless printers.  Since the release of 
Mavericks, HP has been distributing drivers through Apple's Software Update.  
I've read that for some all-in-one printers the Scanner drivers do not  yet 
resolve issues with Scanning that is done without using the HP-specific 
software.

Here is the link for OS X v10.9 Mavericks: Installing and Using the Printer on 
a Mac:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03967522cc=usdlc=enlc=en

HP has an instruction page on replacing a router for their wireless printers:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/wireless-printing-center/reconfiguring-system-help3.html

After navigating to heading level 2 Replacing Your Wireless Router, navigate 
to the in-page link for Changing wireless settings and activate it (double 
tap on an iOS device or VO-Space on a Mac).  Note that they say you may have to 
unplug the power cord from your modem and wait at least 30 minutes for the 
modem to reset.  If you have difficulties you might have to set the device up 
as though it were a new printer, by connecting with an ethernet cable directly 
to the modem of your Internet Service Provider.  Also, some HP printers like 
their newer AirPrint printers may have a Wireless Setup Wizard that can be 
accessed from the printer's control panel.   That process is not accessible, 
but your daughter should be able to run this, if necessary.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:35 AM, alberto wrote:

 Hi, if she tells you where you are on the computer that may help.  If you are 
 somewhere like in the desk top you should be fine, but if she has already set 
 a password on the mac it will be a little tougher for you to get VO to work 
 if she didn’t enable voice over to work on the lock screen when she set it up.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 I have no clue as to where I am in the log in process.  This is my sighted 
 daughter's computer and VO hasn't been tried on it until this morning.  I 
 will tell her to update the software though.  
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
 Good luck.
 -Rodney
 

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Re: Updating HP Wireless Printer Software for Mavericks [was Re: Printing wireless with Mac]

2014-03-17 Thread Juanita Martin
It may be easier for her to just update the software.  After all, it is her 
computer.  
She said something about a control yesterday when she was trying to set up the 
printer so she may be on the right track.


sent from my phone
 


 On Mar 17, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hello Juanita,
 
 For VoiceOver on the MacBook Pro, if Command-F5 or Fn-Command-F5 does not 
 work, you may need your daughter to set up a separate account for you, so 
 VoiceOver can be configured to come up automatically, or else have her 
 configure the system preference settings under Accessibility for her account, 
 so that you can easily bring up VoiceOver with Command-F5.  As others have 
 said, you may need to know where you are in the login process to get 
 VoiceOver to turn on.
 
 You asked:
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info. My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but 
 it doesn't support 10.9.
 
 For the HP-specific part of your question, there are support web pages on 
 updating the printer drivers for Mavericks using Apple's Software Update, and 
 also on replacing a router for their wireless printers.  Since the release of 
 Mavericks, HP has been distributing drivers through Apple's Software Update.  
 I've read that for some all-in-one printers the Scanner drivers do not  yet 
 resolve issues with Scanning that is done without using the HP-specific 
 software.
 
 Here is the link for OS X v10.9 Mavericks: Installing and Using the Printer 
 on a Mac:
 http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03967522cc=usdlc=enlc=en
 
 HP has an instruction page on replacing a router for their wireless printers:
 http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/wireless-printing-center/reconfiguring-system-help3.html
 
 After navigating to heading level 2 Replacing Your Wireless Router, 
 navigate to the in-page link for Changing wireless settings and activate it 
 (double tap on an iOS device or VO-Space on a Mac).  Note that they say you 
 may have to unplug the power cord from your modem and wait at least 30 
 minutes for the modem to reset.  If you have difficulties you might have to 
 set the device up as though it were a new printer, by connecting with an 
 ethernet cable directly to the modem of your Internet Service Provider.  
 Also, some HP printers like their newer AirPrint printers may have a Wireless 
 Setup Wizard that can be accessed from the printer's control panel.   That 
 process is not accessible, but your daughter should be able to run this, if 
 necessary.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:35 AM, alberto wrote:
 
 Hi, if she tells you where you are on the computer that may help.  If you 
 are somewhere like in the desk top you should be fine, but if she has 
 already set a password on the mac it will be a little tougher for you to get 
 VO to work if she didn’t enable voice over to work on the lock screen when 
 she set it up.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 I have no clue as to where I am in the log in process.  This is my sighted 
 daughter's computer and VO hasn't been tried on it until this morning.  I 
 will tell her to update the software though.  
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
 Good luck.
 -Rodney
 
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Re: Giraffe Reader

2014-03-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Leo,

Here’s the e-mail address for Sam Jewell:
 sam.jew...@gmail.com

The Giraffe Reader is not as good as the StandScan Pro as it doesn’t have its 
own lighting. However, it can be used in situations where the StandScan would 
not be feasible, such as in a restaurant to read the menu. The Giraffe Reader 
is much smaller to carry, takes up less space when erected and only weighs 70 g.

The Giraffe Reader could be very helpful to anyone who has trouble positioning 
the iPhone to take pictures of text. I have both the StandScan Pro and the 
Giraffe Reader and consider them complementary.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Mar 2014, at 20:34, Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have been trying to find info on the vendor for the Giraffe Reader and have 
 not had any success.
 
 At this point could someone send me the e-mail for the vendor of Giraffe 
 Reader. I am keen to see how well it would do in comparison to the StandScan, 
 etc.
 
 Thanks in advance for help in this matter.
 
 Leo
 
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Just for clearification. I have got in contact with Sam. Giraffereader works 
 also with IPhone 5s.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 14/03/2014 kl. 21.03 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 I contacted Sam at once yesterday, because I will buy one and try it out, 
 but I have not got any answer. I asked him about the 5s too, but I have 
 heard nothing.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 14/03/2014 kl. 09.15 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Annie,
 
 I have an iPhone 5.
 
 I’m sure Sam would be happy to test the Giraffe Reader with various 
 iPhones if you e-mail him about your concerns.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 19:42, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 Are you using an IPhone 5 or a 5s. I am afraid that these two models 
 needs different distances. I do not know if I am right or wrong. I am 
 sure we need to think about light conditions.
 
 I think I will order one of these giraffe readers. I am doing a lot of 
 experiments taking the pictures with my phone, and recognizing with 
 finereader for the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 13/03/2014 kl. 17.34 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 My Giraffe Reader arrived today. It’s amazingly light and small, and is 
 easy to erect and fold away again. Below my signature is a paper I 
 scanned using TextGrabber with flash on. The paper is an English exam 
 for French nursing students.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 2008, GP figures show. 1 his meanb 070 ui u. 
 850,000 more have diabetes without knowing it. Diabetes UK says the rise 
 is largely fuelled by 
 type 2 diabetes, linked to obesity and unhealthy lifestyles. The survey 
 combined GP data from 
 England^Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to calculate the overall 
 figure of how many people 
 in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes. 
 Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when the 
 insulin-producing cells in 
 the body have been destroyed. 
 Type 2 diabetes develops when the insutin-producing cells in the body 
 are unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is 
 produced does not work properly. 
 Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess in 
 the liver and muscle. 
 If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term 
 complications, such as kidney damage. 
 The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on 
 treating consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart disease 
 and stroke. 
 TEXT 2: HiRh Blood Pressure 
 What Causes High Blood Pressure? 
 The exact causes of high blood pressure are not known, but several 
 factors and conditions may play a role in 
 its development, including: 
 Smoking 
 Being overweight or obese 
 Lack of physical activity 
 Too much salt in the diet 
 Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day) 
 Stress 
 Older age 
 Genetics 
 Family history of high blood pressure 
 Chronic kidney disease 
 Adrenal and thyroid disorders 
 If your blood pressure is extremely high, there may be certain symptoms 
 to look out for, including: 
 Severe headaches 
 Fatigue or confusion 
 Vision problems 
 Chest pain 
 Difficulty breathing 
 Irregular heartbeat 
 Blood in the urine 
 Pounding in your chest, neck, or ears  I ^ 
 llfckfcfc^
 
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Re: Updating HP Wireless Printer Software for Mavericks [was Re: Printing wireless with Mac]

2014-03-17 Thread Esther
Hello Juanita,

According to HP, all you need to do is run Apple's software update to get 
printer drivers for Mavericks.  If your computer is not having any trouble 
seeing the new router and downloading software updates, then after running 
software update from Apple, you just need to follow the procedures for 
replacing the router being used for the printer at the URL:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/wireless-printing-center/reconfiguring-system-help3.html

With those instructions you should either be able to use the original software 
CD, or to use setup software that is built into the printer's hardware control 
panel to set the new network. (This is the part that is not accessible, with no 
spoken feed back on the device control panel or indication where the control 
buttons are located.)

Good luck.  Best,

Esther

On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Juanita Martin wrote:

 It may be easier for her to just update the software.  After all, it is her 
 computer.  
 She said something about a control yesterday when she was trying to set up 
 the printer so she may be on the right track.
 
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hello Juanita,
 
 For VoiceOver on the MacBook Pro, if Command-F5 or Fn-Command-F5 does not 
 work, you may need your daughter to set up a separate account for you, so 
 VoiceOver can be configured to come up automatically, or else have her 
 configure the system preference settings under Accessibility for her 
 account, so that you can easily bring up VoiceOver with Command-F5.  As 
 others have said, you may need to know where you are in the login process to 
 get VoiceOver to turn on.
 
 You asked:
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new router.  
 Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it has to do 
 with changing the network name.  How do you change the network name and 
 password.  The printer is trying to use our old info. My sighted daughter 
 will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from disc but 
 it doesn't support 10.9.
 
 For the HP-specific part of your question, there are support web pages on 
 updating the printer drivers for Mavericks using Apple's Software Update, 
 and also on replacing a router for their wireless printers.  Since the 
 release of Mavericks, HP has been distributing drivers through Apple's 
 Software Update.  I've read that for some all-in-one printers the Scanner 
 drivers do not  yet resolve issues with Scanning that is done without using 
 the HP-specific software.
 
 Here is the link for OS X v10.9 Mavericks: Installing and Using the Printer 
 on a Mac:
 http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03967522cc=usdlc=enlc=en
 
 HP has an instruction page on replacing a router for their wireless printers:
 http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/wireless-printing-center/reconfiguring-system-help3.html
 
 After navigating to heading level 2 Replacing Your Wireless Router, 
 navigate to the in-page link for Changing wireless settings and activate 
 it (double tap on an iOS device or VO-Space on a Mac).  Note that they say 
 you may have to unplug the power cord from your modem and wait at least 30 
 minutes for the modem to reset.  If you have difficulties you might have to 
 set the device up as though it were a new printer, by connecting with an 
 ethernet cable directly to the modem of your Internet Service Provider.  
 Also, some HP printers like their newer AirPrint printers may have a 
 Wireless Setup Wizard that can be accessed from the printer's control panel. 
   That process is not accessible, but your daughter should be able to run 
 this, if necessary.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:35 AM, alberto wrote:
 
 Hi, if she tells you where you are on the computer that may help.  If you 
 are somewhere like in the desk top you should be fine, but if she has 
 already set a password on the mac it will be a little tougher for you to 
 get VO to work if she didn’t enable voice over to work on the lock screen 
 when she set it up.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 I have no clue as to where I am in the log in process.  This is my sighted 
 daughter's computer and VO hasn't been tried on it until this morning.  I 
 will tell her to update the software though.  
 
 sent from my phone
 
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
 the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
 I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
 user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
 the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
 does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
 enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
 start VO with 

Re: Giraffe Reader

2014-03-17 Thread Leo Bissonnette
Hi Anne,

Thanks for the e-mail address and your thoughts on the Reader.

Will write to Sam for some more details, etc.

Leo



On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Leo,
 
 Here’s the e-mail address for Sam Jewell:
 sam.jew...@gmail.com
 
 The Giraffe Reader is not as good as the StandScan Pro as it doesn’t have its 
 own lighting. However, it can be used in situations where the StandScan would 
 not be feasible, such as in a restaurant to read the menu. The Giraffe Reader 
 is much smaller to carry, takes up less space when erected and only weighs 70 
 g.
 
 The Giraffe Reader could be very helpful to anyone who has trouble 
 positioning the iPhone to take pictures of text. I have both the StandScan 
 Pro and the Giraffe Reader and consider them complementary.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 20:34, Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been trying to find info on the vendor for the Giraffe Reader and 
 have not had any success.
 
 At this point could someone send me the e-mail for the vendor of Giraffe 
 Reader. I am keen to see how well it would do in comparison to the 
 StandScan, etc.
 
 Thanks in advance for help in this matter.
 
 Leo
 
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Just for clearification. I have got in contact with Sam. Giraffereader 
 works also with IPhone 5s.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 14/03/2014 kl. 21.03 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen 
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 I contacted Sam at once yesterday, because I will buy one and try it out, 
 but I have not got any answer. I asked him about the 5s too, but I have 
 heard nothing.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 14/03/2014 kl. 09.15 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Annie,
 
 I have an iPhone 5.
 
 I’m sure Sam would be happy to test the Giraffe Reader with various 
 iPhones if you e-mail him about your concerns.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 13 Mar 2014, at 19:42, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 Are you using an IPhone 5 or a 5s. I am afraid that these two models 
 needs different distances. I do not know if I am right or wrong. I am 
 sure we need to think about light conditions.
 
 I think I will order one of these giraffe readers. I am doing a lot of 
 experiments taking the pictures with my phone, and recognizing with 
 finereader for the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 13/03/2014 kl. 17.34 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 My Giraffe Reader arrived today. It’s amazingly light and small, and is 
 easy to erect and fold away again. Below my signature is a paper I 
 scanned using TextGrabber with flash on. The paper is an English exam 
 for French nursing students.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 2008, GP figures show. 1 his meanb 070 ui u. 
 850,000 more have diabetes without knowing it. Diabetes UK says the 
 rise is largely fuelled by 
 type 2 diabetes, linked to obesity and unhealthy lifestyles. The survey 
 combined GP data from 
 England^Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to calculate the overall 
 figure of how many people 
 in the UK are diagnosed with diabetes. 
 Type 1 diabetes accounts for about a tenth of cases and occurs when the 
 insulin-producing cells in 
 the body have been destroyed. 
 Type 2 diabetes develops when the insutin-producing cells in the body 
 are unable to produce enough insulin, or when the insulin that is 
 produced does not work properly. 
 Insulin enables the body to use sugar as energy and store any excess in 
 the liver and muscle. 
 If this fails, blood sugar rises and this can cause long-term 
 complications, such as kidney damage. 
 The NHS spends 10% of its budget on diabetes and 80% of this goes on 
 treating consequences such as amputation, kidney failure, heart disease 
 and stroke. 
 TEXT 2: HiRh Blood Pressure 
 What Causes High Blood Pressure? 
 The exact causes of high blood pressure are not known, but several 
 factors and conditions may play a role in 
 its development, including: 
 Smoking 
 Being overweight or obese 
 Lack of physical activity 
 Too much salt in the diet 
 Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day) 
 Stress 
 Older age 
 Genetics 
 Family history of high blood pressure 
 Chronic kidney disease 
 Adrenal and thyroid disorders 
 If your blood pressure is extremely high, there may be certain symptoms 
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Re: need to delete a dropbox folder out of Voice Dream

2014-03-17 Thread meadowlark77
Thanks, will do that.

Take care,

Brenda

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Subject: Re: need to delete a dropbox folder out of Voice Dream


Go to settings then dropbox then switch it to off then voice dream will no 
longer communicate with the corrupted dropbox folder.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:52 AM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello y'all,

I have a strange question. I had a folder that corrupted in dropbox and
 had to delete it. So, it went off my phone. But when I regained my 
 purchases
 and all and could restore Voice Dream to my iPad Mini, that folder is
 mentioned in Voice Dream, as my default dropbox folder that I decided to 
 put
 my books into. How do I delete it out of Voice Dream, when it is no longer
 in Dropbox? For some reason, it did not default to the present folder that
 my books from bookshare or gutenberg would go into.

 Thanks in advance,

 Brenda

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Re: need to delete a dropbox folder out of Voice Dream

2014-03-17 Thread meadowlark77
Thanks. Worked for me.

Take care,

Brenda

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Subject: Re: need to delete a dropbox folder out of Voice Dream


Go to settings then dropbox then switch it to off then voice dream will no 
longer communicate with the corrupted dropbox folder.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:52 AM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello y'all,

I have a strange question. I had a folder that corrupted in dropbox and
 had to delete it. So, it went off my phone. But when I regained my 
 purchases
 and all and could restore Voice Dream to my iPad Mini, that folder is
 mentioned in Voice Dream, as my default dropbox folder that I decided to 
 put
 my books into. How do I delete it out of Voice Dream, when it is no longer
 in Dropbox? For some reason, it did not default to the present folder that
 my books from bookshare or gutenberg would go into.

 Thanks in advance,

 Brenda

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Re: Item Chooser turning VO off

2014-03-17 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What it is is a voice over crash. I've had this happen before but it's rare. 
Can you maybe just  find he text you are looking for by typing it in the box 
when you hit vo f, then hitting vo g until you get to the text,  or if the site 
is well layer out you can navigate by heading with the vo cmd h and vo cmd 
shift h. vo cmd m for same level you just hit and vo shift cmd m for the 
previous  same heading you were just on.

Take care.
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 When I am in Safari, not all but some times, if I want to use the item 
 chooser, I will press vo+i and after a short time of busy, the Mac will say, 
 welcome to Mac OS 10; Voiceover is running. There is no item chooser list. 
 I'm not sure if it makes a difference how many items are on a page, but I 
 think the more items, the more likely it is to happen. Does anyone know why 
 this is happening? It makes dealing with some very important sites on the web 
 very difficult.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kristeen
 
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Re: Item Chooser turning VO off

2014-03-17 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
THis is a VoiceOver crash, and should not be happening. might I suggest using 
the web rotor instead? It’s a sortable list of the elements on a web page, and 
more focused than the Item CHooser. Try it with cmd-u.
That being said, I’d report this one to Apple Accessibility. I don’t use the 
Item CHoose at all myself, but I’m sure they’ll want to know about it. Their 
adress is accessibil...@apple.com.
Best,
Zack.
On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I am in Safari, not all but some times, if I want to use the item 
 chooser, I will press vo+i and after a short time of busy, the Mac will say, 
 welcome to Mac OS 10; Voiceover is running. There is no item chooser list. 
 I'm not sure if it makes a difference how many items are on a page, but I 
 think the more items, the more likely it is to happen. Does anyone know why 
 this is happening? It makes dealing with some very important sites on the web 
 very difficult.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kristeen
 
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Logitech Bluetooth UE Boombox, I Eat My Words

2014-03-17 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes I eat my words, after my previous experience with a Logitech Boombox system 
I made it clear that I'd never ever purchase another Logitech Boombox again, 
that product had serious design flaws.

I'm now in the possession of a Logitech UE Bluetooth Boombox and I have to 
admit that the sound out of this unit - given its small compact boombox size - 
is quite stunning.

No, the UE Boombox isn't the standard of some of the other pieces of equipment 
I have here but nor should one expect this given the price tag associated with 
the unit.

The Boombox can handle up to 8 pieces of equipment paired at the same time, you 
might for instance take the UE Boombox to a party where you and your friends 
can take it in terns to play their favorite tracks.

Build quality of the UE Boombox isn't lacking in any department, just damn good 
quality throughout with a nice metal grill all around for the speakers and a 
steel handle on the top.

UE by the way stands for Ultimate Ears, you may have heard of the Ultimate Ears 
brand of headphones.  In 2008 Logitech acquired the Ultimate Ears company and 
have since used the branding on many Logitech products, the Ultimate Ears Radio 
for example.

An Ultimate Ears Logitech Air Speaker is also available which is supposed to 
sound even better than the Boombox described here.


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Re: Item Chooser turning VO off

2014-03-17 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Thanks for this info. I will report this. It happens a lot more to me than it 
should and it has from the start.

Kristeen
On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

 Hi,
 THis is a VoiceOver crash, and should not be happening. might I suggest using 
 the web rotor instead? It’s a sortable list of the elements on a web page, 
 and more focused than the Item CHooser. Try it with cmd-u.
 That being said, I’d report this one to Apple Accessibility. I don’t use the 
 Item CHoose at all myself, but I’m sure they’ll want to know about it. Their 
 adress is accessibil...@apple.com.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When I am in Safari, not all but some times, if I want to use the item 
 chooser, I will press vo+i and after a short time of busy, the Mac will say, 
 welcome to Mac OS 10; Voiceover is running. There is no item chooser list. 
 I'm not sure if it makes a difference how many items are on a page, but I 
 think the more items, the more likely it is to happen. Does anyone know why 
 this is happening? It makes dealing with some very important sites on the 
 web very difficult.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kristeen
 
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Re: Logitech Bluetooth UE Boombox, I Eat My Words

2014-03-17 Thread Christopher Gilland
Do they have multiple models of the U E mobile boombox?  Unless I'm just 
dumb, I don't see a steel handle.  Mine simply has the speaker grill then 
all around it is a rubber piece which the grill is seated inside.  I don't 
think the rubber piece can be removed.  It looks permanently glued to the 
speaker.  On the top however of the rubber piece are little indentions for 
your buttons vol down, discover mode which is a big round button in the 
center you hold in for a few seconds, then volume up.  On the back of the 
one I have is the micro USB charger, and a two-way slider switch to turn the 
unit on.  When you power it up, you hear an electric guitar D mager chord 
being strummed, then once it connects, you hear that same guitar very 
quickly and very staccato striking that same D chord, to confirm.  The model 
I have comes in a few different colors:  yellow, blue, black, red which is 
what mine is, and I think maybe gray, and maybe silver.  In the states, I 
paid about $99 for mine.  Does this sound like the same thing?  When I pare, 
it does show up as logitech U E mobile boombox, but, I tell you, nowhere at 
all do I see a steel handle on the top.  What am I missing?


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Re: Logitech Bluetooth UE Boombox, I Eat My Words

2014-03-17 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, that's a different model from the UE Boombox I've described which has a 
button, a slider switch and 2 sockets on the left and the volume up/down on the 
right with no buttons or switches on the top or back.


On 18 Mar 2014, at 2:21 pm, Christopher Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
wrote:

 Do they have multiple models of the U E mobile boombox?  Unless I'm just 
 dumb, I don't see a steel handle.  Mine simply has the speaker grill then all 
 around it is a rubber piece which the grill is seated inside.  I don't think 
 the rubber piece can be removed.  It looks permanently glued to the speaker.  
 On the top however of the rubber piece are little indentions for your buttons 
 vol down, discover mode which is a big round button in the center you hold in 
 for a few seconds, then volume up.  On the back of the one I have is the 
 micro USB charger, and a two-way slider switch to turn the unit on.  When you 
 power it up, you hear an electric guitar D mager chord being strummed, then 
 once it connects, you hear that same guitar very quickly and very staccato 
 striking that same D chord, to confirm.  The model I have comes in a few 
 different colors:  yellow, blue, black, red which is what mine is, and I 
 think maybe gray, and maybe silver.  In the states, I paid about $99 for mine.
   Does this sound like the same thing?  When I pare, it does show up as 
logitech U E mobile boombox, but, I tell you, nowhere at all do I see a steel 
handle on the top.  What am I missing?
 
 Chris.
 
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direct link to get pages on the app store

2014-03-17 Thread meadowlark77
Hey you guys,
Does anybody know the direct link to get pages on the App Store? There's 
at least ten thousand pages, and I need the exact link.

Thanks in advance,

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