Re: bluez and pause control

[William Lomas]

Audible app and music not let pause 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 May 2014, at 20:56, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Companies are more then willing to blame apple because in my mind these 
> companies are way too lazy to fix stuff. Let's hope though that this is 
> indeed apple's doign not audables as I love audible and what they do.
>> On May 10, 2014, at 12:18 PM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are using any bluetooth headset to listen to Audible, pause only 
>> works if you are playing the Audible book at normal speed. If you speed up 
>> the book, this breaks the pause function.
>> 
>> When I reported this to Audible, they did some testing and said that it was 
>> Apple’s problem.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2014, at 10:20 AM, William Lomas  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did pausing work for you? It's not urgent, was just curious why pause  any 
>>> audio. Siri  does not seem to work too well with them. But they are great 
>>> for listening to audiobooks.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 10 May 2014, at 16:10, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
  wrote:
 
 I'm not sure if you can! where them backwards with how they're designed.  
 A way you can know they're on correctly is your power switch and USB 
 charger port should be under your thumb, not under your index finger.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
 
 To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29 AM
 Subject: Re: bluez and pause control
 
 
> Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
> pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear 
> them?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my 
>> right ear.  I get those two buttons confused.
>> 
>> I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, 
>> but my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.
>> 
>> If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I 
>> can reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I 
>> absolutely swear by the things!
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
>> 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
>> Subject: bluez and pause control
>> 
>> 
>>> hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause 
>>> audio in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
>>> when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and 
>>> to hang up is also working
>>> any thoughts please?
>>> Will
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Re: bluez and pause control

[Sarah k Alawami]

Companies are more then willing to blame apple because in my mind these 
companies are way too lazy to fix stuff. Let's hope though that this is indeed 
apple's doign not audables as I love audible and what they do.
On May 10, 2014, at 12:18 PM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If you are using any bluetooth headset to listen to Audible, pause only works 
> if you are playing the Audible book at normal speed. If you speed up the 
> book, this breaks the pause function.
> 
> When I reported this to Audible, they did some testing and said that it was 
> Apple’s problem.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> On May 10, 2014, at 10:20 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
> 
>> Did pausing work for you? It's not urgent, was just curious why pause  any 
>> audio. Siri  does not seem to work too well with them. But they are great 
>> for listening to audiobooks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 10 May 2014, at 16:10, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if you can! where them backwards with how they're designed.  A 
>>> way you can know they're on correctly is your power switch and USB charger 
>>> port should be under your thumb, not under your index finger.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: bluez and pause control
>>> 
>>> 
 Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
 pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear 
 them?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my 
> right ear.  I get those two buttons confused.
> 
> I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, 
> but my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.
> 
> If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I 
> can reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I 
> absolutely swear by the things!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
> 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
> Subject: bluez and pause control
> 
> 
>> hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause 
>> audio in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
>> when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and 
>> to hang up is also working
>> any thoughts please?
>> Will
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Re: bluez and pause control

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

If you are using any bluetooth headset to listen to Audible, pause only works 
if you are playing the Audible book at normal speed. If you speed up the book, 
this breaks the pause function.

When I reported this to Audible, they did some testing and said that it was 
Apple’s problem.

Robert Carter


On May 10, 2014, at 10:20 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> Did pausing work for you? It's not urgent, was just curious why pause  any 
> audio. Siri  does not seem to work too well with them. But they are great for 
> listening to audiobooks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 May 2014, at 16:10, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure if you can! where them backwards with how they're designed.  A 
>> way you can know they're on correctly is your power switch and USB charger 
>> port should be under your thumb, not under your index finger.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: bluez and pause control
>> 
>> 
>>> Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
>>> pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear them?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
  wrote:
 
 I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my 
 right ear.  I get those two buttons confused.
 
 I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, 
 but my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.
 
 If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I 
 can reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I 
 absolutely swear by the things!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
 
 To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
 Subject: bluez and pause control
 
 
> hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause audio 
> in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
> when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and to 
> hang up is also working
> any thoughts please?
> Will
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Laurie Mehta]

Actually, those with vision report that if you turn screen curtain on in a 
darkened room you can easily see that there is light still on. Chris's 
explanation seems consistent with this observation.

On the other hand, I have had great battery life on my MacBookAir just keeping 
the screen brightness and keyboard brightness down to zero when using it on 
battery. This can be done by:
turn the screen brightness down by pressing and holding the F1 key (increase 
brightness by pressing and holding F2) 
and decrease the keyboard backlight to zero by pressing and holding down the F5 
key.

To share my own experience, I can use my Air which is several years old now for 
about 4 hours on battery.

I have not paid enough attention to my typical battery life on my iPod to make 
it worth trying to share that, though.

HTH,
Laurie

On Sat, 5/10/14, Glenn  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
 To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 Date: Saturday, May 10, 2014, 11:41 AM
 
 Chris,
 I believe that the screen curtain turns off the back-light,
 thus making it 
 black, like it is when there is no power to the phone.
 There is no "black" in terms of pixels, there are colored
 pixels that get 
 back-light, or no light behind them, thus causing
 blackness.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
 
 
 Bryan, I might be wrong on this, so please don't quote me
 here, but if I am
 understanding things correctly, I don't think it saves
 battery life, and
 here's why more specifically:
 
 All that really happens notably when you enable the screen
 curtain is that
 it virtually paints a black shadening (if that be a word,)
 over the screen.
 Think of it like this:  you have a pare of
 sunglasses.  Now, if you was to
 take those and paint black paint over their lenses, that's
 basically in a
 nutshell what you're doing with the screen curtain. 
 You're not really per
 sé making the screen power/brightness any less
 intense.  You're basically
 just drawing solid black highlight over the top of it,
 thus,
 nulling/blacking it out.
 
 If you really want to truely increase your battery life,
 your better bet
 would probably be to go into settings, and turn the screen
 brightness all
 the way down to 0%.  And no, doing that plus enabling
 the curtain really
 wouldn't probably have any ill effect, no, but I don't
 really think it would
 help matters either.  Now, that said, your screen
 brightness certainly would
 make a huge difference.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bryan Jones" 
 To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:13 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
 
 
 Yes, I’ve heard this anecdote from a number of different
 folks over the
 years. Unfortunately, AFAIK none of these folks have
 produced any hard
 evidence to show that turning the screen curtain on actually
 increases
 battery life. I’d love to see a controlled and replicable
 study to either
 prove or disprove the assertions of those of us including
 Apple who believe
 there’s no difference in battery life with or without
 screen curtain.
 
 Bryan
 
 On May 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Glenn 
 wrote:
 > I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery
 life on my phone
 > exceeds expectation.
 > I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps
 update automatically,
 > and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on.
 > Glenn
 > - Original Message - 
 > From: "Bryan Jones" 
 > To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
 > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM
 > Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
 >
 >
 > Last I heard, the official word from Apple
 Accessibility was that the IOS
 > screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW,
 though I’ve done no
 > official testing, my personal experience leads me to
 believe this also
 > holds
 > true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
 >
 > Bryan
 >
 > On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn 
 wrote:
 >> I would think that screen curtain being on would
 save more battery life,
 >> as
 >> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display
 processes are still
 >> being
 >> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on,
 I'm guessing that the
 >> processes are not calculated by the processor.
 >> Glenn
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Re: prizmo

[Judy Pryor]

I would like to thank all of you who have helped me with Prizmo.  I am finding 
it a difficult ap. to use will just have to keep practicing.  I got some help 
from a sighted friend and he found it quite hard.  Perhaps i need a Stanscan to 
go with it, do not know where you get that from, or the  other one that Ann was 
talking about.
many thanks Judy 
On 6 May 2014, at 18:02, Juaanita Marttin  wrote:

> There is a section under settings, help topics, called recommendations that 
> you might find helpful.  
> On May 6, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
>> I have not seen a light off button, and have used a room with good lighting. 
>>  I downloaded taptapsee and that is working.
>> Judy
>> On 6 May 2014, at 01:05, Glenn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Judy,
>>> Make sure the light is on, if it says:
>>> light off button
>>> Double-tap there and it will say:
>>> "Light On Button"
>>> Also, make sure there is decent light in the room.
>>> HTH.
>>> Glenn
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, my phone is not muted .  I have tried to do everything that has been 
>>> suggested but it still saying no text detected.  The iPhone
>>> 
>>> camera is working,  so do not know what else to do. Judy
>>> On 4 May 2014, at 01:18, Matthew Carello  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes. Also when you set it to mute it will vibrate. It will not vibrate 
 when turning mute back off though.
 On May 3, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Glenn  wrote:
 
> Judy,
> There is a switch above the volume up button, and it should be flicked
> toward the screen to be unmuted.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: prizmo
> 
> 
> I thought I did that, it kept saying left or right a bit or away.  Could
> feel the phone vibrate but no other noise as such so how do you unmute it 
> as
> I thought it was unmuted as I am running voiceover. Judy
> On 3 May 2014, at 14:25, Glenn  wrote:
> 
>> Judy,
>> In Prysmo, you first swipe to "quick capture" and double-tap the screen.
>> Then you swipe until you get to "take picture button".
>> Then make sure you are about 8 to 12 inches above the text, and 
>> double-tap
>> the screen.
>> This is the only problem with Prysmo, you have to double-tap the screen.
>> But the good thing is that it does not instantly take a picture, it will
>> give a series of increasing tones and when it gets to a certain pitch, 
>> it
>> snaps a picture of the text, so you have a moment to steady your camera.
>> You should have it unmuted to hear the tones.
>> I usually have both elbows on the table, and hold the phone with both
>> hands
>> to keep it steady.
>> HTH.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>> 
>> 
>> I don't use prismo, in fact I don't use any ocr apps on ios as of yet, 
>> but
>> can you not tell it to take a picture of the documetn once ocr is on in
>> the
>> app and see if the camera works?
>> 
>> Take care.c
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 19:35, Glenn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Judy,
>>> The camera will tell you when you are pointing at a face.
>>> Glenn
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am totally blind so would not know if the camera had worked or not.
>>> Judy
 On 2 May 2014, at 22:25, Juanita Martin 
 wrote:
 
 You could check out the camera by taking a selfie
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 2, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
> 
> I am using an iPhone and the OCR text orientation  is on.  I am
> wondering
> if the camera is alright its a second hand phone and have had a few
> problems with it.  Judy
>> On 2 May 2014, at 14:19, Juanita Martin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you're using it on the IPhone, make sure that text orientation is
>> on
>> under OCR.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Judy Pryor 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I cannot get Prizmo to recognise any text.  A friend downloaded it
>>> for
>>> me and took a photo and it was blank. I tried to day but no luck.
>>> Are
>>> there settings in Prizmo and camera that should be checked or
>>> unchecked.  Can anyone give me advice on how to use P

RE: Can't eject Cd

[Frank Ventura]

Try holding down the mouse button (trackpad in your case) while powering up the 
Mac.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Juaanita Marttin
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:43 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Can't eject Cd

I got a Cd drive for my MacBook Air a few days ago.  I'm in the process of 
putting all my Cd's on it.  There's a Cd in the drive now.  When I do the eject 
command, nothing happens.  I hear the drive make noise but the Cd doesn't pop 
out.  There isn't a physical eject button on the drive itself, so how do I get 
the Cd out?  
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Matthew Carello]

It is shift control option f11 to toggle screen curtain on and off.
On May 10, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> how do I activate the Mac screen curtain
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 May 2014, at 15:27, Bryan Jones  wrote:
>> 
>> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
>> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no 
>> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds 
>> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as 
>>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still 
>>> being 
>>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the 
>>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>>> Glenn
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Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: ScreencurtainoniPhone}

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Wow, you learn something every day, dontcha!  That's one I didn't know 
about, admittedly.  You're right.  That does indeed work.


Chris.

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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: 
ScreencurtainoniPhone}



VO plus shift with f11 toggles the curtain on/off on this MBA -

Andy
On 10 May 2014, at 16:37, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


It's quite ok.  It happens to the best of us, and when you get a 
command/gesture that you don't do on a regular basis, it actually becomes 
easy to forget.


Here's one more tip I have for ya, actually.  Another thing you can do 
is... do you personally ever use keyboard commander?  If so, you actually 
can map your option key plus another key to toggle the curtain.  For 
example, I use my right option key as the keyboard commander modifier key, 
so for me, I've set right option key+R to enable/disable the curtain.  Why 
the letter R, I don't really know.  It just felt natural to me, so I kind 
a just went with it.  LOL!  :)


Anyway, if you want more specifics directions on how to set this up, let 
me know.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen 
curtainoniPhone}



Good point. Somehow I keep forgetting about the trackpad sitting right 
there under my thumbs. :)


Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Another way is to turn on trackpad commander, then 3 finger tripple tap 
on the trackpad.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen 
curtain oniPhone}



Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen 
curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the 
shortcut key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to 
toggle the screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help 
menu.


HTH,
Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

how do I activate the Mac screen curtain


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Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtainoniPhone}

[Andy Collins]

VO plus shift with f11 toggles the curtain on/off on this MBA -

Andy
On 10 May 2014, at 16:37, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> It's quite ok.  It happens to the best of us, and when you get a 
> command/gesture that you don't do on a regular basis, it actually becomes 
> easy to forget.
> 
> Here's one more tip I have for ya, actually.  Another thing you can do is... 
> do you personally ever use keyboard commander?  If so, you actually can map 
> your option key plus another key to toggle the curtain.  For example, I use 
> my right option key as the keyboard commander modifier key, so for me, I've 
> set right option key+R to enable/disable the curtain.  Why the letter R, I 
> don't really know.  It just felt natural to me, so I kind a just went with 
> it.  LOL!  :)
> 
> Anyway, if you want more specifics directions on how to set this up, let me 
> know.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen 
> curtainoniPhone}
> 
> 
> Good point. Somehow I keep forgetting about the trackpad sitting right there 
> under my thumbs. :)
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On May 10, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Another way is to turn on trackpad commander, then 3 finger tripple tap on 
>> the trackpad.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:01 AM
>> Subject: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain 
>> oniPhone}
>> 
>> 
>> Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen 
>> curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the shortcut 
>> key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to toggle the 
>> screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help menu.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Bryan
>> 
>> On May 10, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>  wrote:
>>> how do I activate the Mac screen curtain
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Re: iOS browsers was Re: IOS 7, probably the most buggy I've ever seen yet!

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

I’ve already bugged this the first time I browsed with iOS  using Safari when 
iOS 7 was released. I’m sure they’ll get around to it, but I wish it’d be 
sooner rather than later, since it really is an ugly experience.

I’m using another browser for the time being, and it works, but it’s certainly 
a workaround. The only reason I actually mention it is because I’m curious if 
anyone’s experienced something similar to this. If someone who browses 
frequently with Safari has not experienced this behaviour, the performance 
problems may be difficult to reproduce, and would certainly be part of the 
reason it has not been fixed yet.

Regards,
Nicolai
On 08 May 2014, at 21:32, Chris Apple boy  wrote:

> Hi all
> Have you considered either Chrome or Instabrowser as your "second" browser 
> for iOS? Granted you can't make them default browsers but they may work 
> better with VoiceOver. I of course realize this is only a workaround and 
> doesn't solve the current problems and so writing to
> accessibil...@apple.com
> is encouraged.
> 
> 
> Regards Chris
> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
> 
> On 08/05/2014 15:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I’m finding web browsing with Safari to be an absolutely horrible experience 
>> on my iPhone 5. This has been the case through all versions of iOS 7 for me. 
>> VoiceOver will bounce all over the place, or is very sluggish at telling me 
>> what’s on the webpage when I navigate, especially when hitting landmarks. 
>> Quite often, too, VoiceOver will randomly bounce me around to different 
>> parts of the page when I’m just flicking through if I don’t know the design..
>> 
>> I can’t reproduce the bugs you mention here. It’s mostly performance that I 
>> have trouble with on my end.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nicolai
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Glenn]

Chris,
I believe that the screen curtain turns off the back-light, thus making it 
black, like it is when there is no power to the phone.
There is no "black" in terms of pixels, there are colored pixels that get 
back-light, or no light behind them, thus causing blackness.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone


Bryan, I might be wrong on this, so please don't quote me here, but if I am
understanding things correctly, I don't think it saves battery life, and
here's why more specifically:

All that really happens notably when you enable the screen curtain is that
it virtually paints a black shadening (if that be a word,) over the screen.
Think of it like this:  you have a pare of sunglasses.  Now, if you was to
take those and paint black paint over their lenses, that's basically in a
nutshell what you're doing with the screen curtain.  You're not really per
sé making the screen power/brightness any less intense.  You're basically
just drawing solid black highlight over the top of it, thus,
nulling/blacking it out.

If you really want to truely increase your battery life, your better bet
would probably be to go into settings, and turn the screen brightness all
the way down to 0%.  And no, doing that plus enabling the curtain really
wouldn't probably have any ill effect, no, but I don't really think it would
help matters either.  Now, that said, your screen brightness certainly would
make a huge difference.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone


Yes, I’ve heard this anecdote from a number of different folks over the
years. Unfortunately, AFAIK none of these folks have produced any hard
evidence to show that turning the screen curtain on actually increases
battery life. I’d love to see a controlled and replicable study to either
prove or disprove the assertions of those of us including Apple who believe
there’s no difference in battery life with or without screen curtain.

Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Glenn  wrote:
> I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery life on my phone
> exceeds expectation.
> I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps update automatically,
> and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bryan Jones" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
>
>
> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS
> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no
> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also
> holds
> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
>
> Bryan
>
> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life,
>> as
>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still
>> being
>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the
>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>> Glenn
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Re: bluez and pause control

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, you know what?  I haven't had the oppertunity yet to try it.  Sorry 
about that.  My headset is completely dead, as I used it like crazy last 
night to read a book on my Kindle app, and was downstairs in our sunroom, so 
I didn't wanna wake up my mom.


I'll let you all know as soon as I get it charged, and get the chance to try 
it.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "William Lomas" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: bluez and pause control


Did pausing work for you? It's not urgent, was just curious why pause  any 
audio. Siri  does not seem to work too well with them. But they are great 
for listening to audiobooks.


Sent from my iPhone

On 10 May 2014, at 16:10, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


I'm not sure if you can! where them backwards with how they're designed. 
A way you can know they're on correctly is your power switch and USB 
charger port should be under your thumb, not under your index finger.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: bluez and pause control


Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear 
them?


Sent from my iPhone

On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my 
right ear.  I get those two buttons confused.


I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and 
released, but my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.


If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if 
I can reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I 
absolutely swear by the things!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: bluez and pause control


hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause 
audio in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and 
to hang up is also working

any thoughts please?
Will

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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Glenn]

The thing about any testimonials is they are all subjective.  Someone else 
using the screen curtain exclusively may not get as good of battery life 
because of battery care, or the lack there of.
I drain my battery probably every other week and plug it in at bedtime.  I 
never, never unplug the phone unless it has charged to 100%.
I think that the only ones who can conclusively say which is better are the 
folks who are responsible for writing the IOS.
But it still seems logical to me that the screen curtain is more of a 
complete shut-off as apposed to a fade-out of the screen.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone


Yes, I’ve heard this anecdote from a number of different folks over the 
years. Unfortunately, AFAIK none of these folks have produced any hard 
evidence to show that turning the screen curtain on actually increases 
battery life. I’d love to see a controlled and replicable study to either 
prove or disprove the assertions of those of us including Apple who believe 
there’s no difference in battery life with or without screen curtain.

Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Glenn  wrote:
> I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery life on my phone
> exceeds expectation.
> I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps update automatically,
> and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bryan Jones" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
>
>
> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS
> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no
> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also 
> holds
> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
>
> Bryan
>
> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life,
>> as
>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still
>> being
>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the
>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>> Glenn
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Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtainoniPhone}

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

It's quite ok.  It happens to the best of us, and when you get a 
command/gesture that you don't do on a regular basis, it actually becomes 
easy to forget.


Here's one more tip I have for ya, actually.  Another thing you can do is... 
do you personally ever use keyboard commander?  If so, you actually can map 
your option key plus another key to toggle the curtain.  For example, I use 
my right option key as the keyboard commander modifier key, so for me, I've 
set right option key+R to enable/disable the curtain.  Why the letter R, I 
don't really know.  It just felt natural to me, so I kind a just went with 
it.  LOL!  :)


Anyway, if you want more specifics directions on how to set this up, let me 
know.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen 
curtainoniPhone}



Good point. Somehow I keep forgetting about the trackpad sitting right there 
under my thumbs. :)


Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Another way is to turn on trackpad commander, then 3 finger tripple tap on 
the trackpad.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain 
oniPhone}



Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen 
curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the 
shortcut key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to 
toggle the screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help 
menu.


HTH,
Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

how do I activate the Mac screen curtain


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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Bryan, I might be wrong on this, so please don't quote me here, but if I am 
understanding things correctly, I don't think it saves battery life, and 
here's why more specifically:


All that really happens notably when you enable the screen curtain is that 
it virtually paints a black shadening (if that be a word,) over the screen. 
Think of it like this:  you have a pare of sunglasses.  Now, if you was to 
take those and paint black paint over their lenses, that's basically in a 
nutshell what you're doing with the screen curtain.  You're not really per 
sé making the screen power/brightness any less intense.  You're basically 
just drawing solid black highlight over the top of it, thus, 
nulling/blacking it out.


If you really want to truely increase your battery life, your better bet 
would probably be to go into settings, and turn the screen brightness all 
the way down to 0%.  And no, doing that plus enabling the curtain really 
wouldn't probably have any ill effect, no, but I don't really think it would 
help matters either.  Now, that said, your screen brightness certainly would 
make a huge difference.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone


Yes, I’ve heard this anecdote from a number of different folks over the 
years. Unfortunately, AFAIK none of these folks have produced any hard 
evidence to show that turning the screen curtain on actually increases 
battery life. I’d love to see a controlled and replicable study to either 
prove or disprove the assertions of those of us including Apple who believe 
there’s no difference in battery life with or without screen curtain.


Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Glenn  wrote:

I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery life on my phone
exceeds expectation.
I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps update automatically,
and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone


Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS
screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no
official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also 
holds

true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.

Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:

I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life,
as
I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still
being
sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the
processes are not calculated by the processor.
Glenn

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Re: bluez and pause control

[William Lomas]

Did pausing work for you? It's not urgent, was just curious why pause  any 
audio. Siri  does not seem to work too well with them. But they are great for 
listening to audiobooks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 May 2014, at 16:10, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if you can! where them backwards with how they're designed.  A 
> way you can know they're on correctly is your power switch and USB charger 
> port should be under your thumb, not under your index finger.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: bluez and pause control
> 
> 
>> Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
>> pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear them?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my right 
>>> ear.  I get those two buttons confused.
>>> 
>>> I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, 
>>> but my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.
>>> 
>>> If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I 
>>> can reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I absolutely 
>>> swear by the things!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
>>> Subject: bluez and pause control
>>> 
>>> 
 hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause audio 
 in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
 when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and to 
 hang up is also working
 any thoughts please?
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Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain oniPhone}

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Good point. Somehow I keep forgetting about the trackpad sitting right there 
under my thumbs. :)

Bryan

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 wrote:

> Another way is to turn on trackpad commander, then 3 finger tripple tap on 
> the trackpad.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:01 AM
> Subject: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain 
> oniPhone}
> 
> 
> Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen 
> curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the shortcut 
> key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to toggle the 
> screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help menu.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Bryan Jones]

Yes, I’ve heard this anecdote from a number of different folks over the years. 
Unfortunately, AFAIK none of these folks have produced any hard evidence to 
show that turning the screen curtain on actually increases battery life. I’d 
love to see a controlled and replicable study to either prove or disprove the 
assertions of those of us including Apple who believe there’s no difference in 
battery life with or without screen curtain.

Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Glenn  wrote:
> I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery life on my phone 
> exceeds expectation.
> I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps update automatically, 
> and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bryan Jones" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
> 
> 
> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no 
> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds 
> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, 
>> as
>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still 
>> being
>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the
>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>> Glenn
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Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain oniPhone}

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Another way is to turn on trackpad commander, then 3 finger tripple tap on 
the trackpad.


Chris.

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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain 
oniPhone}



Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen 
curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the shortcut 
key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to toggle the 
screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help menu.


HTH,
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how do I activate the Mac screen curtain


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Re: bluez and pause control

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm not sure if you can! where them backwards with how they're designed.  A 
way you can know they're on correctly is your power switch and USB charger 
port should be under your thumb, not under your index finger.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "William Lomas" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: bluez and pause control


Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear 
them?


Sent from my iPhone

On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my 
right ear.  I get those two buttons confused.


I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, 
but my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.


If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I 
can reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I 
absolutely swear by the things!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: bluez and pause control


hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause 
audio in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and 
to hang up is also working

any thoughts please?
Will

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How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone}

[Bryan Jones]

Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen 
curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the shortcut 
key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to toggle the screen 
curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help menu.

HTH,
Bryan

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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Glenn]

I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery life on my phone 
exceeds expectation.
I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps update automatically, 
and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone


Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no 
official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds 
true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.

Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, 
> as
> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still 
> being
> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the
> processes are not calculated by the processor.
> Glenn
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

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how do I activate the Mac screen curtain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 May 2014, at 15:27, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no 
> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds 
> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
> 
> Bryan
> 
>> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as 
>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still being 
>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the 
>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>> Glenn
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

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Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no official 
testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds true for 
the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.

Bryan

On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as 
> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still being 
> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the 
> processes are not calculated by the processor.
> Glenn
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Glenn]

I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as 
I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still being 
sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the 
processes are not calculated by the processor.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Hopewell" 
To: "mac-access" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:48 AM
Subject: Screen curtain on iPhone


Hello,
I am concerned about battery life on my ageing iPhone 3GS running the latest 
level of IOS 6 (IOS 7 does not work on the 3GS).
I know that reducing screen brightness increases battery life. If I set 
screen curtain on does that have the same effect as setting screen 
brightness to 0? If I set brightness to say 40% and normally run with screen 
curtain on I can easily toggle screen curtain off to show the phone content 
to a sighted person. However if normally setting screen curtain on in this 
scenario does not improve battery life then there is no point in doing this. 
Instead I would have to run with screen brightness normally set to 0 and to 
remember to temporarily increase screen brightness to show the phone to a 
sighted person.
Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell
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Re: bluez and pause control

[William Lomas]

Right hand side for me, anyway. When I have them on, to answer a call, I 
pressed the button on my left ear. Is that the right way round to wear them?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 May 2014, at 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my right 
> ear.  I get those two buttons confused.
> 
> I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, but 
> my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.
> 
> If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I can 
> reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I absolutely swear 
> by the things!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
> Subject: bluez and pause control
> 
> 
>> hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause audio in 
>> iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
>> when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and to 
>> hang up is also working
>> any thoughts please?
>> Will
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Re: bluez and pause control

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm trying to remember.  Is my pause on my left ear, or is that on my right 
ear.  I get those two buttons confused.


I know the right ear will hang up a call if pushed quickly and released, but 
my pause, and my mute, I don't totally remember.


If you can refresh my memory, I'll give it a try over here, and see if I can 
reproduce your pausing issue, as I do! have the Bluez, and I absolutely 
swear by the things!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "William Lomas" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: bluez and pause control


hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause audio 
in iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and to 
hang up is also working

any thoughts please?
Will

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bluez and pause control

[William Lomas]

hi all has anyone else noted that the aftershokz blues do not pause audio in 
iOS 7.1.1 yet i can make calls?
when i press the button to answer a call on the iPhone 4S it works and to hang 
up is also working
any thoughts please?
Will

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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

[Chris Apple boy]

I would put the screen brightness to 0 then adjust it where necessary. 
Screen curtain only puts a virtual curtain around your screen and 
doesn't affect how it contrasts.


On 10/05/2014 10:48, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I am concerned about battery life on my ageing iPhone 3GS running the latest 
level of IOS 6 (IOS 7 does not work on the 3GS).
I know that reducing screen brightness increases battery life. If I set screen 
curtain on does that have the same effect as setting screen brightness to 0? If 
I set brightness to say 40% and normally run with screen curtain on I can 
easily toggle screen curtain off to show the phone content to a sighted person. 
However if normally setting screen curtain on in this scenario does not improve 
battery life then there is no point in doing this. Instead I would have to run 
with screen brightness normally set to 0 and to remember to temporarily 
increase screen brightness to show the phone to a sighted person.
Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell
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Screen curtain on iPhone

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am concerned about battery life on my ageing iPhone 3GS running the latest 
level of IOS 6 (IOS 7 does not work on the 3GS). 
I know that reducing screen brightness increases battery life. If I set screen 
curtain on does that have the same effect as setting screen brightness to 0? If 
I set brightness to say 40% and normally run with screen curtain on I can 
easily toggle screen curtain off to show the phone content to a sighted person. 
However if normally setting screen curtain on in this scenario does not improve 
battery life then there is no point in doing this. Instead I would have to run 
with screen brightness normally set to 0 and to remember to temporarily 
increase screen brightness to show the phone to a sighted person. 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell
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