Re: [Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually, I've been  doing this for about 4 years now in mail under all 
versions since 10.6 in 2010. This is how I often send to more then 1 person at 
a time with out dealing with serial mail if I'm doing just 2 or 3 people. 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:35 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
 done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
 Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press the 
 send command, shift-command-d, and you can send again as the command 
 suggests. Make your edits where appropriate, then hit the same keystroke to 
 send. How cool is that! I thought this was unique to Thunderbird but not now.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I guess it's just something I'll have to get used to.  

I personally hate it, but, whatever.

Chris.

 On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:36, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing this 
 is because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst others 
 is indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a research 
 paper. You could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the text it says 
 to the clip board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting space o 
 something. I don't know as I personally like this and wish it were in more 
 apps so I could write my papers more effectivally as I deal with block quotes 
 a lot.
 
 As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 
 
 Blessings and happy Saturday
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
 busy a lot?
 Lovette
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
 level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
 frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that 
 is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't 
 come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list 
 members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my 
 e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's 
 called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked 
 under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut 
 this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there 
 has got to be a way.
 
 It didn't do this in Mavericks.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Chris.
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[Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote level 
0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but frankly, 
I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that is that.  I'm 
sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't come attacking me 
cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list members do that to me 
in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I 
don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, 
people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity 
settings, but I see nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom 
verbosity settings or somewhere, there has got to be a way.

It didn't do this in Mavericks.

How can I fix this?

Chris.
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[Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all,
I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press the 
send command, shift-command-d, and you can send again as the command 
suggests. Make your edits where appropriate, then hit the same keystroke to 
send. How cool is that! I thought this was unique to Thunderbird but not now.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by 
the way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.


If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
more tempted by the minute to install and try it.


But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!


I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover


I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail 
is busy a lot?

Lovette

On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
somewhere, there has got to be a way.


It didn't do this in Mavericks.

How can I fix this?

Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Lovette Yewchan
I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
busy a lot?
Lovette
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
 level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
 frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that is 
 that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't come 
 attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list members 
 do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my e-mail real 
 quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's called 
 preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked under all 
 of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut this off.  
 Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there has got to be 
 a way.
 
 It didn't do this in Mavericks.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing this is 
because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst others is 
indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a research paper. You 
could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the text it says to the clip 
board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting space o something. I don't 
know as I personally like this and wish it were in more apps so I could write 
my papers more effectivally as I deal with block quotes a lot.

As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 

Blessings and happy Saturday
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
 busy a lot?
 Lovette
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
 level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
 frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that is 
 that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't come 
 attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list 
 members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my 
 e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's 
 called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked 
 under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut 
 this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there 
 has got to be a way.
 
 It didn't do this in Mavericks.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread Chris Gilland
okay. You just totally lost me.

are you trying to say that after sending a message with command shift D I will 
be placed back in the current mailbox. are you saying that at this point I 
could literally press command plus shift plus D again, and it would 
automatically open up a new message with the same body as the last message 
which I sent, allowing me to type in a new email address to send it to? if so, 
that is awesome! I was definitely not aware of this. Nice discovery!

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:37, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually, I've been  doing this for about 4 years now in mail under all 
 versions since 10.6 in 2010. This is how I often send to more then 1 person 
 at a time with out dealing with serial mail if I'm doing just 2 or 3 people. 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:35 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
 done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
 Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press 
 the send command, shift-command-d, and you can send again as the command 
 suggests. Make your edits where appropriate, then hit the same keystroke to 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Ditto. Mail is not clunky at all and is the only client I have on here. I 
downloaded Microsoft Outlook for Mac as part of my office 365 subscription but 
have not installed it yet and don't know if I can be bothered smile.
 On 25 Jan 2015, at 03:59, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually mail is not clunky at all.  In fact it's faster to get around things 
 then it ever was. All you need to do is learn your navigation key strokes and 
 visuallise your space.  Vo j is your friend.
 
 Tc.
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
 find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by 
 the way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.
 
 If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
 accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
 more tempted by the minute to install and try it.
 
 But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
 Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!
 
 I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
 clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover
 
 
 I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
 busy a lot?
 Lovette
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
 level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
 but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
 that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
 don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
 some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
 blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
 arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
 is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
 nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
 somewhere, there has got to be a way.
 
 It didn't do this in Mavericks.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
If you do not interact with the table you can just press down arrow and you 
will hear every colomn in that particular row.

I personally sourt by date decending so I just hear the subject which for me 
makes things go faster.

Blessings.
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 8:25 PM, michael's mail boxl 
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 Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
 Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like 
 who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
 Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each colum 
 at a time.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually mail is not clunky at all.  In fact it's faster to get around things 
then it ever was. All you need to do is learn your navigation key strokes and 
visuallise your space.  Vo j is your friend.

Tc.
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
 find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by the 
 way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.
 
 If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
 accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
 more tempted by the minute to install and try it.
 
 But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
 Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!
 
 I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
 clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover
 
 
 I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
 busy a lot?
 Lovette
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
 level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
 frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that 
 is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't 
 come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list 
 members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my 
 e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's 
 called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked 
 under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut 
 this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there 
 has got to be a way.
 
 It didn't do this in Mavericks.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It might or might not depending on where you are place you in the body of the 
message, or it might place you in the message list. All you do then is simply 
it enter to open the message and cmd shift d, then hit tab to the to field and 
type in the email, hit enter to confirm it and hit cmd shift d.
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 okay. You just totally lost me.
 
 are you trying to say that after sending a message with command shift D I 
 will be placed back in the current mailbox. are you saying that at this point 
 I could literally press command plus shift plus D again, and it would 
 automatically open up a new message with the same body as the last message 
 which I sent, allowing me to type in a new email address to send it to? if 
 so, that is awesome! I was definitely not aware of this. Nice discovery!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:37, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually, I've been  doing this for about 4 years now in mail under all 
 versions since 10.6 in 2010. This is how I often send to more then 1 person 
 at a time with out dealing with serial mail if I'm doing just 2 or 3 people. 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:35 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
 done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
 Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press 
 the send command, shift-command-d, and you can send again as the command 
 suggests. Make your edits where appropriate, then hit the same keystroke to 
 send. How cool is that! I thought this was unique to Thunderbird but not 
 now.
 
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[Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-24 Thread michael's mail boxl
Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like 
who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each colum 
at a time.
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[Mac-access]: Pear Note, any Voice Over success Stories?

2015-01-24 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

I’d Like to use Pear Note on my iPad or phone.  It seems vO friendly.  Is 
anyone finding it works for them?  I’m having a bit of trouble mastering it but 
it seems like it could be me more then the app.

This app records while you take notes and then later you can touch the note and 
hear the recording near the spot where you took the note.

I’m using the iOS app but there is a companion mac app.

Eric Caron 

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