Re: [Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube From IOS Devices

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yes you do.  Actually you need a google account but it's all the same now.
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> I take it that you need a Youtube account for uploading purposes?
> 
> 
> On 28/04/2015 8:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>> Yep it is, but keep in mind the  15 minute limite and where it will cut off. 
>> I really dont' knwo why apple placed that limit on anything that access 
>> videos or the camera app in general.
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, so the upload option for youtube, is that under Share in the Camera 
>>> App?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28/04/2015 7:35 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 You can use the native camera app. Youtube capture is horrible to use and 
 they never improved it in the 3 years I'e been trying to use it. Remember 
 though you only get 15 minutes as a limit. the camera app or any ios app 
 actually can't go  above that limit to upload videos. It cuts off after 
 that specified time so let's say you have an our long video you recorded 
 and you want to upload that to youtube, it will only upload the first 15 
 minutes.
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This is an area I know next to nothing about, I'm inquiring on behalf of 
> a friend who wishes to do this.
> 
> I know that there's a Youtube Capture App out there, I don't have an 
> iPhone so can't try this App for myself, how accessible or other wise is 
> this App or is there another alternative method which can be used which 
> might be both easier to use and more accessible?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube

[Sarah k Alawami]

 Actually it's an apple thing as I was using work flow to record a video longer 
then 10 minutes from the work flow app, and it stopped  after 10 minutes. yet I 
was able to send a video to someone via messages from work flow that was 30 
minutes long. Quick time also has  the 15 minute restriction when you upload to 
youtube but you can upload up to 128 gig video if you wanted to from the 
website. I would not do that btw.
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
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> I've been thinking about the 15 minute restriction placed on video clips 
> recorded with the camera of the iPhone, perhaps this restriction is not 
> enforced by Apple but rather by Google themselves? I'm sure that Google would 
> rather you use their Youtube Capture App for uploading to Youtube rather than 
> anything Apple .
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[gs]

Disk space can be adjusted so there is no need to allocate more than necessary. 
with regard to Fusion

When I first switched to the Mac, I was convinced that I would really need 
bootcamp so I got everything ready, setup the bootcamp so that it was ready for 
the Windows install, and headed off to the Apple Store to try to get them to 
help me.  I was able to do so but it was with reluctance. They told me they 
were not supposed to help me install Windows, and I think if I had not been 
completely prepared, they would not have done so. I wouldn't count on that kind 
of assistance, and I doubt it has anything to do with whether one is in the UK 
or anywhere else. Still, it might be worth a try if you are desperate which I 
was.

Before I installed bootcamp, I had purchased VMWare Fusion since I knew I could 
install Windows unassisted. So I already had Fusion and Windows running. I 
admit that the bootcamp version of Windows ran better than the virtual machine, 
but the virtual machine runs well enough and has improved with updated versions 
of Fusion.

Within a month or so, I decided to remove the bootcamp partition for two 
reasons: 1. I have a Macbook Air with only 256 GB of SSD, and 2. I really like 
the ability to use both the Mac OS and Windows simultaneously. This was more 
important than the ability too boot into Windows. So I removed bootcamp to 
reclaim some space. I generally have not regretted removing the bootcamp 
partition. Fusion works well enough for my Windows. needs


On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot 
Camp and would rely upon Fusion.
I think it is 2 years since I  booted into Boot Camp.

Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp.
1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily 
play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I 
could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. 
As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be 
an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option.
2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but 
theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be 
more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and 
certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the 
Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to 
your Fusion VM  as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot 
camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is 
also skimpy by default.

It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and 
memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible 
activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use 
NVDA until this is all sorted out.

David Griffith
On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  
> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
> 
>  
> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
> 
>  
> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
> 
>  
> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
> Windows?
> 
> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
> could take along there.
> 
>  
> Thank you for any help.
> 
>  
> Brian Hartgen
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Wow, this is a good thread! The other thing that should be considered is the 
cost. I'd have to look it up, but I remember VMWare Fusion costing some 
money. I believe it was somewhere around fifty bucks or so in USD. I don't 
know if Bootcamp costs anything, being that its capabilities are built into 
OSX as far as I know. I could be basse-ackwards on this, but that's what 
I've heard.
- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor burke" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 23:51
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.




On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:

Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp 
or

with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.



I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would 
there

be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to 
how

to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted 
help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to 
install

Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which 
I

could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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[Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube

[Dane Trethowan]

I've been thinking about the 15 minute restriction placed on video clips 
recorded with the camera of the iPhone, perhaps this restriction is not 
enforced by Apple but rather by Google themselves? I'm sure that Google 
would rather you use their Youtube Capture App for uploading to Youtube 
rather than anything Apple .


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Re: [Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube From IOS Devices

[Dane Trethowan]

I take it that you need a Youtube account for uploading purposes?


On 28/04/2015 8:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep it is, but keep in mind the  15 minute limite and where it will cut off. I 
really dont' knwo why apple placed that limit on anything that access videos or 
the camera app in general.

Take care.

On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Okay, so the upload option for youtube, is that under Share in the Camera App?


On 28/04/2015 7:35 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

You can use the native camera app. Youtube capture is horrible to use and they 
never improved it in the 3 years I'e been trying to use it. Remember though you 
only get 15 minutes as a limit. the camera app or any ios app actually can't go 
 above that limit to upload videos. It cuts off after that specified time so 
let's say you have an our long video you recorded and you want to upload that 
to youtube, it will only upload the first 15 minutes.

On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Hi!

This is an area I know next to nothing about, I'm inquiring on behalf of a 
friend who wishes to do this.

I know that there's a Youtube Capture App out there, I don't have an iPhone so 
can't try this App for myself, how accessible or other wise is this App or is 
there another alternative method which can be used which might be both easier 
to use and more accessible?


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Re: [Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube From IOS Devices

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yep it is, but keep in mind the  15 minute limite and where it will cut off. I 
really dont' knwo why apple placed that limit on anything that access videos or 
the camera app in general.

Take care. 
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Okay, so the upload option for youtube, is that under Share in the Camera App?
> 
> 
> On 28/04/2015 7:35 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>> You can use the native camera app. Youtube capture is horrible to use and 
>> they never improved it in the 3 years I'e been trying to use it. Remember 
>> though you only get 15 minutes as a limit. the camera app or any ios app 
>> actually can't go  above that limit to upload videos. It cuts off after that 
>> specified time so let's say you have an our long video you recorded and you 
>> want to upload that to youtube, it will only upload the first 15 minutes.
>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> This is an area I know next to nothing about, I'm inquiring on behalf of a 
>>> friend who wishes to do this.
>>> 
>>> I know that there's a Youtube Capture App out there, I don't have an iPhone 
>>> so can't try this App for myself, how accessible or other wise is this App 
>>> or is there another alternative method which can be used which might be 
>>> both easier to use and more accessible?
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[Mac-access]: has any one noticed with the newest Skype update for the i phone/ i pod / i pad that it kicks a person off line?

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Has any one noticed with the newest Skype update for iOS that it keeps kicking 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube From IOS Devices

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay, so the upload option for youtube, is that under Share in the 
Camera App?



On 28/04/2015 7:35 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

You can use the native camera app. Youtube capture is horrible to use and they 
never improved it in the 3 years I'e been trying to use it. Remember though you 
only get 15 minutes as a limit. the camera app or any ios app actually can't go 
 above that limit to upload videos. It cuts off after that specified time so 
let's say you have an our long video you recorded and you want to upload that 
to youtube, it will only upload the first 15 minutes.

On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Hi!

This is an area I know next to nothing about, I'm inquiring on behalf of a 
friend who wishes to do this.

I know that there's a Youtube Capture App out there, I don't have an iPhone so 
can't try this App for myself, how accessible or other wise is this App or is 
there another alternative method which can be used which might be both easier 
to use and more accessible?


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Re: [Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube From IOS Devices

[Sarah k Alawami]

You can use the native camera app. Youtube capture is horrible to use and they 
never improved it in the 3 years I'e been trying to use it. Remember though you 
only get 15 minutes as a limit. the camera app or any ios app actually can't go 
 above that limit to upload videos. It cuts off after that specified time so 
let's say you have an our long video you recorded and you want to upload that 
to youtube, it will only upload the first 15 minutes.
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This is an area I know next to nothing about, I'm inquiring on behalf of a 
> friend who wishes to do this.
> 
> I know that there's a Youtube Capture App out there, I don't have an iPhone 
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> is there another alternative method which can be used which might be both 
> easier to use and more accessible?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Eileen Misrahi]

I have been reading all of the posts here and tried on different occasions to 
respond. For other tech reasons that I don’t think is necessary for this 
thread, I’ll put my 2 sense in about BootCamp and what I needed to do to 
install it myself. Before I start, I want to suggest to listen to a podcast on 
CoolBlindTech regarding Wininstaller. It’s a software program that will provide 
one with a talking installer for Windows. I did not go that route, since I am 
still not fully confident in advance skills on the Mac side. I used the 
following apps to install Win 8.0 with no (sort of) sighted assistance. They 
include KNFB Reader, BeMyEyes, the Applevis guidelines, and Facetime. Here is 
what I found that helped me. 

1. The Applevis guidelines was sort of helpful. The dialog pages when 
installing Win 8.0 didn’t pair up with the information written in the 
guidelines. Hence, you need to be careful on which keystroke you used and 
where. That said, the keystrokes when matched to the correct dialog page were 
very helpful. 
2. When using the KNFB Reader, I first increased the brightness of the Mac’s 
screen to 100%. This gave me very accurate results in the image scan with KNFB. 
It also allowed me to locate the precise section in the Applevis guideline text 
for the correct keystrokes to use. 
3. I used BeMyEyes to confirm the 04 bootcamp drive. Since this is a critical 
point in the installation, I didn’t want to reformat the wrong disk. I  also 
had the individual assist me in the confirmation of the advance button in disk 
options and the format button at this point. I did that because I had the 
sighted person on the other end. 
4. However, I had some difficulties in accessing the next button. It was 
located in the lower right hand corner and the only method to access it was 
with the trackpad.
5. I contacted an AT sighted  buddy of mine through Facetime and  with his 
guidance in which direction to move my finger on the mouse, I was able to 
select the next button and left click on it. It was a challenge, but very 
rewarding knowing that I was able to install Win 8.0 on my own. My AT friend 
learn something that he may be able to use in the future to assist someone else 
that wants to install Windows into BootCamp, but does not have sighted 
assistance available. 

Sorry for this long reply, but I thought others would like to know my creative 
resolution to a task that is really not accessible to the visually impaired to 
complete without sighted assistance. HTH. 

Warmest regards, 
Eileen 
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:32 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with 
> Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion.
> I think it is 2 years since I  booted into Boot Camp.
> 
> Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp.
> 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily 
> play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I 
> could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under 
> Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me 
> but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option.
> 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac 
> but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so 
> should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough 
> and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you 
> go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores 
> available to your Fusion VM  as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you 
> go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated 
> as this is also skimpy by default.
> 
> It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and 
> memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible 
> activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely 
> use NVDA until this is all sorted out.
> 
> David Griffith
> On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>>  
>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
>> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>> 
>>  
>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
>> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
>> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>> 
>>  
>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
>> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
>> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
>> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>> 
>>  
>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
>

[Mac-access]: Uploading Video To Youtube From IOS Devices

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

This is an area I know next to nothing about, I'm inquiring on behalf of 
a friend who wishes to do this.


I know that there's a Youtube Capture App out there, I don't have an 
iPhone so can't try this App for myself, how accessible or other wise is 
this App or is there another alternative method which can be used which 
might be both easier to use and more accessible?



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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[David Griffith]

Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother 
with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion.

I think it is 2 years since I  booted into Boot Camp.

Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp.
1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not 
necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine 
but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal 
scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine 
this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only 
Windows option.
2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a 
Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install 
so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem 
fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would 
recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the 
Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM  as the default is 
pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also 
increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default.


It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core 
and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create 
possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. 
I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out.


David Griffith
On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote:

Hi

  


I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.

  


However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.

  


I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?

  


My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
could take along there.

  


Thank you for any help.

  


Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Eleanor burke]

okay but I'm not sure in the UK if there that's helpful.



> On 27 Apr 2015, at 19:25, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for 
> someone and they finished it with speach when they got  home. lol! Just ask 
> and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are 
> willing to bend over backwards to help me.
> 
> take care.
>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
>>> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
>>> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
>>> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
>>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
>>> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
>>> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
>>> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
>>> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
>>> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
>>> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
>>> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
>>> Windows?
>>> 
>>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
>>> could take along there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brian Hartgen
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Brian Hartgen]

I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been
very helpful.

I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the
virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to
be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new,
so it has to be worth a shot at least.
If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production
software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro.


Thanks to everyone again.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 27 April 2015 19:25
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for
someone and they finished it with speach when they got  home. lol! Just ask
and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are
willing to bend over backwards to help me.

take care.
> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke 
wrote:
> 
> I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying 
>> and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with 
>> Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This 
>> is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have
some questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different 
>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages 
>> of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran 
>> it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For 
>> example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows
screen-reader?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
>> there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete 
>> accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem 
>> like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple 
>> store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they 
>> likely to say no because I need to install Windows?
>> 
>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive 
>> which I could take along there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Hartgen
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Sarah k Alawami]

I actually do all of my audio work on the mac, but I'm an almost seasoned mac 
user of 5 years so am very comfortable  workign with audio on the mac. I 
produce my voice overs for this company I volenteer for on the mac, my EP, 
albums and podcasts and it all works very very flawlessly.

Take care. 
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but 
> again, that's just me.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Hartgen" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
> 
> 
>> Hi Chris
>> 
>> What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may
>> be the way to go.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland
>> Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
>> 
>> Brian,
>> 
>> I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows.  It's really hard to
>> say.  I think it would be up to their disgression.  Most likely though,
>> they'd probably not.  They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set
>> up, but that would be about the end of it.  Again though.  I'd call them.
>> It doesn't hurt to try.  The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna
>> discourage you from giving it a shot.
>> 
>> As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what
>> you're doing.  The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly
>> into Windows on its own partition.  With VMWare Fusion or the like, the
>> issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work,
>> as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly
>> within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious.  Plus, realize
>> that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at
>> the same time.  Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory
>> intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish.
>> 
>> Me personally?  I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally.
>> Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff
>> touching my mac partition.  But again, I'm weird that way.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brian Hartgen" 
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM
>> Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
>>> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
>>> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
>>> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
>>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
>>> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
>>> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would
>>> there
>>> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and
>>> there
>>> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
>>> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
>>> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
>>> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to
>>> install
>>> Windows?
>>> 
>>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
>>> could take along there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brian Hartgen
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for 
someone and they finished it with speach when they got  home. lol! Just ask and 
if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing 
to bend over backwards to help me.

take care.
> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke  
> wrote:
> 
> I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
>> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
>> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
>> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
>> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
>> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
>> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
>> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
>> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
>> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
>> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
>> Windows?
>> 
>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
>> could take along there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Hartgen
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Mike Arrigo]

I would use fusion for several reasons. First, you can install windows 
totally without sighted help, there is a quick install where you 
provide either the DVD or an ISO of Windows, tell it the product key 
and Fusion does the rest. Second, as you said, you can switch between 
the 2 operating systems without having to reboot. Finally, your Windows 
virtual machine is stored in one file, so it's really easy to back up. 
If something happens to it, just copy and replace it from a backup. 
About the only disadvantage with Fusion is that not all of your 
resources will be used by Windows, but if it's a high end machine, you 
shouldn't notice any delays.

Original message:

Hi





I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.





However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.





I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?





My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
Windows?



I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
could take along there.





Thank you for any help.





Brian Hartgen



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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but 
again, that's just me.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Hartgen" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi Chris

What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp 
may

be the way to go.

Thank you.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

Brian,

I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows.  It's really hard to
say.  I think it would be up to their disgression.  Most likely though,
they'd probably not.  They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition 
set

up, but that would be about the end of it.  Again though.  I'd call them.
It doesn't hurt to try.  The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna
discourage you from giving it a shot.

As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what
you're doing.  The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly
into Windows on its own partition.  With VMWare Fusion or the like, the
issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more 
work,

as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly
within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious.  Plus, realize
that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows 
at

the same time.  Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory
intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish.

Me personally?  I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally.
Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows 
stuff

touching my mac partition.  But again, I'm weird that way.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Hartgen" 
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp 
or

with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.



I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would
there
be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and
there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to 
how

to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted 
help,

is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to
install
Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which 
I

could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Brian wrote:

I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac 
screen.

If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot.

It's worth a try, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not totally convinced how 
great the result yielded would be.  I'd be interested in knowing if you get 
through it.  Just know however, YMMV.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Hartgen" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi William

I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac 
screen.

If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas

Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?

On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke  
wrote:


I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.




On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:

Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying
and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with
Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This
is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have 
some questions.




I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages
of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran
it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For
example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows 
screen-reader?




My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and
there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete
accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem
like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple
store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they
likely to say no because I need to install Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive
which I could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, William, if people have spent the $99 to buy it.  Plus, KNFB reader 
doesn't really do that great, in my personal experience, with reading 
computer monitors.  Plus, the buttons like Next, and Cancel, etc have 
underlined letters so you know what key to hit with your alt key.  KNFB 
isn't gonna tell you what those underlined hotkey letters are.  Plus, If you 
wanted to use the mouse to get through the installer, KNFB isn't going to be 
able to direct your mouse pointer to where you need to click.


I see where you're going with this, but it would probably be more headache 
than it's worth.  You'd probably do better with Be My Eyes, although, 
lately, I'm not so convinced of that after the problem that every one of my 
I O S devices seem to be having according to the sighted vollenteers.  But, 
that's for another post.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?

On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke  
wrote:


I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.




On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:

Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp 
or

with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some 
questions.




I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would 
there

be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
there
does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to 
how
to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange 
question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted 
help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to 
install

Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which 
I

could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Brian Hartgen]

Hi Chris

What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may
be the way to go.

Thank you.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

Brian,

I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows.  It's really hard to
say.  I think it would be up to their disgression.  Most likely though,
they'd probably not.  They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set
up, but that would be about the end of it.  Again though.  I'd call them. 
It doesn't hurt to try.  The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna
discourage you from giving it a shot.

As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what
you're doing.  The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly
into Windows on its own partition.  With VMWare Fusion or the like, the
issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work,
as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly
within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious.  Plus, realize
that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at
the same time.  Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory
intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish.

Me personally?  I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. 
Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff
touching my mac partition.  But again, I'm weird that way.

Chris.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Hartgen" 
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion


> Hi
>
>
>
> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>
>
>
> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>
>
>
> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would 
> there
> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>
>
>
> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
> there
> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to 
> install
> Windows?
>
> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
> could take along there.
>
>
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
>
>
> Brian Hartgen
>
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Brian,

I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows.  It's really hard to 
say.  I think it would be up to their disgression.  Most likely though, 
they'd probably not.  They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set 
up, but that would be about the end of it.  Again though.  I'd call them. 
It doesn't hurt to try.  The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna 
discourage you from giving it a shot.


As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what 
you're doing.  The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly 
into Windows on its own partition.  With VMWare Fusion or the like, the 
issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, 
as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly 
within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious.  Plus, realize 
that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at 
the same time.  Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory 
intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish.


Me personally?  I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. 
Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff 
touching my mac partition.  But again, I'm weird that way.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Hartgen" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion



Hi



I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.



However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.



I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would 
there

be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?



My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
there

does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to 
install

Windows?

I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
could take along there.



Thank you for any help.



Brian Hartgen

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Re: [Mac-access]: sorted out my voiceover startup issue.

[John Panarese]

  No, you need to toggle on VO if you have FileVault enabled.  I use it on my 
laptop for security purposes. Otherwise, as long as you have it set to 
automatically start in the login window, it should work on non-FileVault 
systems.


Take Care

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> On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:28 AM, blind man  wrote:
> 
> It seems I’ve sorted out my voiceover auto-startup issue.
> 
> It would appear that if you have file vault enabled, it won’t start 
> automatically. I’ve since turned it off and tested it with a restart and it 
> comes up talking.
> 
> Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. It seems it was my own mistake that 
> I never even gave a thought until just now.
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[Mac-access]: sorted out my voiceover startup issue.

[blind man]

It seems I’ve sorted out my voiceover auto-startup issue.

It would appear that if you have file vault enabled, it won’t start 
automatically. I’ve since turned it off and tested it with a restart and it 
comes up talking.

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. It seems it was my own mistake that I 
never even gave a thought until just now.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Ryan Mann]

Hello Sarah.  Can you email me that guide off list as well?  I installed 
Windows with Bootcamp, but I needed to use the Be My Eyes app since there was 
no sound when the Windows 8.1 installation DVD booted. My email address is 
rmann0581 at gmail.com. Note, I spelled at out so it would be harder for spam 
bots to get my email address.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello. I'm limited on what I can answer per the guidelines of the list, but I 
> personally love vmware fusion as I can "flip" between operating systems, how 
> ever, I have a radio that takes a serial connection and for me Vmware does 
> not play nice. That's the only disadvantage of vmware for me.
> 
> bootcamp is quite easy to install with out site. I modified an applevis guide 
> to make it a bit easier to read. I'll email that to you off list so as not to 
> get in to trouble. If I don't get to it by next week fire me an email off 
> list and remind me. I'm going out of town on business, but I will  get that 
> to you soon.
> 
> The other disadvantage btw about boot camp is  if you need to shrink the 
> partition, let's say you made it too big, I have not found a way to do it in 
> such a way to reallocate safely, but I could be wrong. I'm still learning the 
> mac and all it can do after 5 years  owning one, and that's way cool! I'm not 
> known for my long replies so with that I hope that helps.
> 
> Blessings and happy Sunday.
>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
>> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
>> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
>> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
>> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
>> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
>> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
>> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
>> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
>> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
>> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
>> Windows?
>> 
>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
>> could take along there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[william lomas]

a friend of mine installed windows with it flawlessly on his macbook with 
bootcamp with no issues.incidentally do i need the iso file to be on a 
formatted flash drive to run?you can then i believe use your bootcamp partition 
in fusion once it's created.

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> On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:12, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
> 
> Hi William
> 
> I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac 
> screen.
> If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas
> Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
> 
> can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying 
>>> and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with 
>>> Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This 
>>> is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have 
>>> some questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different 
>>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages 
>>> of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran 
>>> it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For 
>>> example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows 
>>> screen-reader?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
>>> there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete 
>>> accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem 
>>> like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple 
>>> store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they 
>>> likely to say no because I need to install Windows?
>>> 
>>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive 
>>> which I could take along there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brian Hartgen
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[Brian Hartgen]

Hi William

I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac 
screen.
If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas
Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?

> On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke  
> wrote:
> 
> I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying 
>> and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with 
>> Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This 
>> is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have 
>> some questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different 
>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages 
>> of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran 
>> it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For 
>> example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and 
>> there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete 
>> accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem 
>> like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple 
>> store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they 
>> likely to say no because I need to install Windows?
>> 
>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive 
>> which I could take along there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Hartgen
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

[william lomas]

can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go?

> On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke  
> wrote:
> 
> I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
>> think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
>> with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
>> machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can "flick" between different
>> operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
>> running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
>> Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
>> be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
>> does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
>> to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
>> but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
>> is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
>> Windows?
>> 
>> I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
>> could take along there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Hartgen
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: how to autostart voice at boot up.

[blind man]

ok, I did all that a while ago, step for step bur I’m finding it doesn’t seemto 
want to come up talking. never the less, I’ll have another poke around and see 
what’s what.
thanks for pointing me to that podcast.

> On 27 Apr 2015, at 15:17, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> This is my first post to the list. I received my first Mac only on Saturday,
> so I am glad my first message is one where I, as a new user, can offer some
> help.
> 
> I had exactly this problem. A Twitter user pointed me to this podcast. I
> suggest you listen to it and follow the instructions to the letter. Be sure
> in particular to unlock the settings for being able to change the logon
> settings as directed in the podcast.
> The link is:
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/quick-tip-how-configure-voiceover-s
> tart-automatically-mac-os-x-login-screen
> 
> Brian Hartgen
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of blind man
> Sent: 27 April 2015 05:02
> To: Mac Access
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: how to autostart voice at boot up.
> 
> hi, I've already enabled the use voiceover on the login screen but, it
> doesn't seem to want to enable itself. I have to tap command+f5
>> to read the prompt for username, at which point I enter in my apple ID
> then tab for my password, then the thing boots up and voiceover comes up
> talking.
> as for auto login, I've trued, but can't seem to find that option anywhere.
> oh well, I'll keep rooting around, I'm sure I'll find it somewhere.
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2015, at 13:14, Travis Siegel  wrote:
>> 
>> Usually, if you have voiceover turned on, it will start talking when the
> machine reboots.  However, if it doesn't do this, you'll need to go into
> your account settings, and check the box that says use voiceover on login
> screen.
>> If you want to have it log you in automatically, and there's only one
> account on the machine, you can select that option in your account
> preferences as well.  You may be able to select the user to log in as if you
> have multiple accounts, but I don't know this for sure, as I've never used
> the login automatically option, since I don't like folks having access to my
> machine w/o me around to validate them.
>> Hope this helps, and that it's still valid, since 10.9 isn't an s version
> I've used (yet) but the steps should be pretty similar regardless.
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:24 PM, blind man wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> how do I get voiceover to start up at the login screen from either a cold
> boot or restart?
>>> I've managed to get it to start after login, but I actually have to
> enable it before I can login to the machine.
>>> also is there a way I can for my mac to auto-login to my current user
> account?
>>> 
>>> I'm currently using yosemite on a 2014 macbook air.
>>> 
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