Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Indeed not Ann, but a very valuable list member from whom I personally have learned a lot, particularly in my early days. It is a pity that people are wishing to leave because I am sure the issue is not deliberate. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: OS X iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:31 AM Subject: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Are you saying Ann has given an incorrect address to unsubscribe Chris?s - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne
[Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
[Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Effectively I am because of the extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 09:40, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying Ann has given an incorrect address to unsubscribe Chris?s - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
Indeed Ann, I found it brilliant as a beginner last year. Eleanor - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Thanks Chris, having great confidence in what yourself and Anne say this is why I was querying it. Eleanor - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Effectively I am because of the extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 09:40, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying Ann has given an incorrect address to unsubscribe Chris?s - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down! I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a message to: mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net The subject and body do not matter. Cheers, Anne
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
[Mac-Access]: Unsubscribe
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Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
hey, might just do that. do you have an address i can send it to? On 25 May 2015, at 10:07 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Drop Apple an e-mail suggesting it. - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac? thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
Drop Apple an e-mail suggesting it. - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac? thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
I think it is accessibility at apple.com. On 25 May 2015, at 13:16, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, might just do that. do you have an address i can send it to? On 25 May 2015, at 10:07 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Drop Apple an e-mail suggesting it. - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac? thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
[Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. April Brown
[Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
On May 25, 2015, at 9:06 AM, April Brown aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. On May 25, 2015, at 9:05 AM, April Brown aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote:
RE: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
Please unsubscribe me as well. Thank you. From: April Brown [mailto:aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 14:06 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net Subject: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. April Brown
RE: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
Yes me too, this is not fair to any of us! Kind Regards, Jackie Brown Emails: mailto:thebrownspl...@btinternet.com thebrownspl...@btinternet.com mailto:jackieannbrow...@gmail.com jackieannbrow...@gmail.com mailto:jac...@thebrownsplace.info jac...@thebrownsplace.info Check out my website: http://www.thebrownsplace.info www.thebrownsplace.info Read my EyeWrite blog: www.thebrownsplace.info/?page_id=136 Follow me on Twitter: @thebrownsplace Skype: thejackmate From: Brian Hartgen [mailto:brianhart...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 14:08 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. Please unsubscribe me as well. Thank you. From: April Brown [mailto:aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 14:06 To: mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net Subject: [Mac-Access]: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. April Brown
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately rejected. Weird, too, considerring that their status wasn't set to away nor busy. It said flat out, online. Chris. - Original Message - From: Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
For the last time, I need to unsubscribe fro mthis sort of mailing list... you are not respecting my privacy. Il 25/05/2015 15:06, April Brown ha scritto: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. -- ZE-Light e ZE-Pro: servizi zimbra per caselle con dominio email.it, per tutti i dettagli Clicca qui http://posta.email.it/caselle-di-posta-z-email-it/?utm_campaign=email_Zimbra_102014=main_footer/f Sponsor: Ponte 2 giugno all'Hotel Milano Helvetia di Riccione: 2 giorni euro 59 in BB, euro 79 in mezza pensione, euro 85 in pensione completa Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=13460d=25-5
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
I suppose that you could definitely set up an email filter, but in the long run, I'm just not totally sure how much that would really help matters. Sorry about that! I wish that I could tell you more! Chris. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 11:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few months, and my reasons for leaving are that I wish to reduce my email traffic. There is no excuse for foul language, though I can fully understand people's frustrations on not being able to unsubscribe. It is clear that the moderator is unable to monitor this list at the moment, and I am failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
no offense… But with all due respect… We get your point the first time, the second time, and now the third! Did you not get my email that I sent you off list? I may be able to help you. Write me privately. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 10:50, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it wrote: For the last time, I need to unsubscribe fro mthis sort of mailing list... you are not respecting my privacy. Il 25/05/2015 15:06, April Brown ha scritto: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. -- ZE-Light e ZE-Pro: servizi zimbra per caselle con dominio email.it, per tutti i dettagli Clicca qui http://posta.email.it/caselle-di-posta-z-email-it/?utm_campaign=email_Zimbra_102014=main_footer/f Sponsor: Ponte 2 giugno all'Hotel Milano Helvetia di Riccione: 2 giorni euro 59 in BB, euro 79 in mezza pensione, euro 85 in pensione completa Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=13460d=25-5
Re: [Mac-Access]: Phone book app
I just use the Yellow pages app on ios to look up a number then save it to my contacts. or I will use free411.com http://free411.com/ which is a website thats a bit cluttered but it works. On May 24, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: USA Texas. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not using any. Where are you living? I am in the UK am I just use our 195 telephone directory service. On 24 May 2015, at 22:13, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: What phone book app are you guys using? I had Yellow pages but with each update they seemed to add features that I didn’t need like maps and directions.
RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!
Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
I definitely agree 150% that the language is uncalled for! That said however, I feel his frustration. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eileen To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
These people wanting to leave the list might feel differently if they knew what I went through the eyes-free list with with GoogleGroups. For those who don't know, the eyes-free list is for Android users. It gets at least 200 messages a day, and it is unmoderated. My ISP had just switched to using the gMail server when I subscribed, so my eMail went in as my user name at gMail.com. Then I tried to unsubscribe and the unsubscribe commands did not recognize me because my eMails going to the list showed up as from my ISP, @cableone.net When I complained to the list, someone there was able to set me up so I could not post to the list, but I was still getting the messages. For a couple years, I just filtered them to my trash. Then my ISP came back with providing their own eMail server, and I was put into IMAP, and my filters no longer worked. Their web interface was AJAX, rather than standard HTML, by default, which made it unusable by a Blind user. So after all that, I feel like the folks complaining here have little to complain about. Glenn - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! I definitely agree 150% that the language is uncalled for! That said however, I feel his frustration. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eileen To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
I think that is unfair assumption, as I have just tried to call somebody on Skype or is exceptionally helpful to me and I just keep getting disconnected. On 25 May 2015, at 15:48, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately rejected. Weird, too, considerring that their status wasn't set to away nor busy. It said flat out, online. Chris. - Original Message - From: Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages. Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: Re: Please unsubscribe my email from this list.
you are only adding extra traffic to the list if you have said it once and if anyone can add to your to your request I am sure they will. On 25 May 2015, at 15:50, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it wrote: For the last time, I need to unsubscribe fro mthis sort of mailing list... you are not respecting my privacy. Il 25/05/2015 15:06, April Brown ha scritto: Please unsubscribe my email from this list. I can find no way to do so. I used to recieve one email a month, now there were over 50 yesteday,. -- ZE-Light e ZE-Pro: servizi zimbra per caselle con dominio email.it, per tutti i dettagli Clicca qui http://posta.email.it/caselle-di-posta-z-email-it/?utm_campaign=email_Zimbra_102014=main_footer/f Sponsor: Ponte 2 giugno all'Hotel Milano Helvetia di Riccione: 2 giorni euro 59 in BB, euro 79 in mezza pensione, euro 85 in pensione completa Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=13460d=25-5
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
actually, I hate to bust your bubble, but it actually disconnected by giving me an error message directly that said the call was rejected on the receiving end. so actually, no it wasn't unfair considering the fact that I was given that error message very specifically, and very directly. Otherwise, I would agree. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 10:57, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I think that is unfair assumption, as I have just tried to call somebody on Skype or is exceptionally helpful to me and I just keep getting disconnected. On 25 May 2015, at 15:48, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately rejected. Weird, too, considerring that their status wasn't set to away nor busy. It said flat out, online. Chris. - Original Message - From: Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
It's crazy, why is it so difficult to bring down the server? Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I saw them on Skype but as soon as I called, the call was immediately rejected. Weird, too, considerring that their status wasn't set to away nor busy. It said flat out, online. Chris. - Original Message - From: Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
RE: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few months, and my reasons for leaving are that I wish to reduce my email traffic. There is no excuse for foul language, though I can fully understand people's frustrations on not being able to unsubscribe. It is clear that the moderator is unable to monitor this list at the moment, and I am failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
RE: [Mac-Access]: enough!
I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
You can always email accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accesibil...@apple.com and report the feature as if it were a bug. I do this all the time and send them like 2-3 page usage reports. They appreciate it and tell me so. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
To use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of doing both, but it will take time. To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through file then templets. Take cre. On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
Hello Roger, I, too, have been unable to contact Gordon today and my problems are much worse than just unwanted e-mail traffic. Gordon hosts my website and it’s been down for over three weeks now. We were in contact over the week-end, but today, nothing. I can tell you that the mail server is running SurgeMail which is new to me and seems horribly complicated. The unsubscribe message I suggested was adapted from the one that works for my own list, so I don’t know why it isn’t working for this one. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 16:32, Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com wrote: Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: Phone book app
I just use the Yellow pages app on ios to look up a number then save it to my contacts. or I will use free411.com http://free411.com/ which is a website thats a bit cluttered but it works. On May 24, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: USA Texas. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com mailto:eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not using any. Where are you living? I am in the UK am I just use our 195 telephone directory service. On 24 May 2015, at 22:13, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: What phone book app are you guys using? I had Yellow pages but with each update they seemed to add features that I didn’t need like maps and directions.
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
Hi Ann, I'm so sorry to hear that. That's unexceptable, since you run a business from your web site. I believe that those who are on the list serve received the last email from George over the weakend. I hope there's nothing seriously wrong with him or if all of this has gone belly up. In the past, I have obtained valuable helpful information. Let's hope for the best. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Roger, I, too, have been unable to contact Gordon today and my problems are much worse than just unwanted e-mail traffic. Gordon hosts my website and it’s been down for over three weeks now. We were in contact over the week-end, but today, nothing. I can tell you that the mail server is running SurgeMail which is new to me and seems horribly complicated. The unsubscribe message I suggested was adapted from the one that works for my own list, so I don’t know why it isn’t working for this one. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 16:32, Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com wrote: Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down completely until things work properly. David Griffith David Griffith -Original Message- From: Eileen [mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:14 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendo back! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
I tried this, but it didn't work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 09:47, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
i want to un subscribe. and i got nothing back, On 5/25/2015 2:28 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: -- my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where you found me at, other wize you will not be added. twidder is jwens1000 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is jazzyjen. i play everything except ballot.
RE: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
Hi I tried to unsubscribe. No luck. So, if this doesn't stop soon, I shall report it as spam. Thanks. Mike -Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer [mailto:jwens2...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 20:11 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list i want to un subscribe. and i got nothing back, On 5/25/2015 2:28 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: -- my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where you found me at, other wize you will not be added. twidder is jwens1000 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is jazzyjen. i play everything except ballot.
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
well you are still here with us Chris and that is great. On 25 May 2015, at 19:28, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
Hello Sarah, There’s a way of fixing the selecting text problem that was posted to another list. When I lay my hands on it, I’ll post it here. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 19:00, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages. Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
Just a couple of points. 1. I tried the suggestion made by Ms Ann no dice. 2. As another list member has pointed out a simple email informing people that they are back online would have sufficed. Please don't make excuses for Gordon's incompetence. Simply harvesting everyone's email address and receiving multiple copies of every email that is sent to the server clattering up once inbox is absolutely unacceptable! I have tried numerous things including trying to contact these administrators via Skype. They either don't want to take my call or they keep going off line. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 26 May 2015, at 12:41 am, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote: These people wanting to leave the list might feel differently if they knew what I went through the eyes-free list with with GoogleGroups. For those who don't know, the eyes-free list is for Android users. It gets at least 200 messages a day, and it is unmoderated. My ISP had just switched to using the gMail server when I subscribed, so my eMail went in as my user name at gMail.com. Then I tried to unsubscribe and the unsubscribe commands did not recognize me because my eMails going to the list showed up as from my ISP, @cableone.net When I complained to the list, someone there was able to set me up so I could not post to the list, but I was still getting the messages. For a couple years, I just filtered them to my trash. Then my ISP came back with providing their own eMail server, and I was put into IMAP, and my filters no longer worked. Their web interface was AJAX, rather than standard HTML, by default, which made it unusable by a Blind user. So after all that, I feel like the folks complaining here have little to complain about. Glenn - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! I definitely agree 150% that the language is uncalled for! That said however, I feel his frustration. Chris. - Original Message - From: Eileen To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough! Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in someone elses mouth that values this list serve. Good day and good riddens to you. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@icloud.com wrote: Well said. Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at all. But this is getting fucking ridiculous. I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense. Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this stupid list. Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. A horrendous web interface. To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo jayr...@verizon.net wrote: Administrator, just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested this? Are you insane? Good god. I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me as someone who just got his Nintendoback! That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple operating system to my satisfaction. Best, Jay
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or .rtf file to be read on a portable player??? At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffenâs free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOverâ? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.commargaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: Iâm helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
i know man i tryed to un subscribe too. On 5/25/2015 3:21 PM, Mike Townsend wrote: Hi I tried to unsubscribe. No luck. So, if this doesn't stop soon, I shall report it as spam. Thanks. Mike -Original Message- From: jazzyjennifer [mailto:jwens2...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 20:11 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list i want to un subscribe. and i got nothing back, On 5/25/2015 2:28 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to see if it would work. I got nothing back. On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote: Hi Ann and Chris I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed. I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list over the last few failing to also unsubscribe. Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the emails from this list? best wishes to you all Henry From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list Hello Chris, Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be: mac-access-le...@mac-access.net Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave. On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: -- my skype is jwens1000 and when adding me to skype, please mention where you found me at, other wize you will not be added. twidder is jwens1000 and for those of you dice world players out there my dice world is jazzyjen. i play everything except ballot.
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
That would be grate. That seems to be the only show stopper, that and the naming of tables problem and the table of contents, but other then that, pages is very much usable; I passed my class thesis with it. Wahoo! Blessings to all. On May 25, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Sarah, There’s a way of fixing the selecting text problem that was posted to another list. When I lay my hands on it, I’ll post it here. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 19:00, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com mailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I'd wish they would fix and I've reported it about 20 times now is the inability to select text that span multiple pages. I've verified this is a voice over bug by shutting off voice over and selecting multiple pages. Looks likeI have to keep reporting that one. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
no. On 25 May 2015, at 22:00, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or .rtf file to be read on a portable player??? At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote: Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.commargaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
In the interest of continuity, if the list owner cannot run the list, it probably needs to be migrated to a general email list service provider where service is relatively free of uptime issues such as we have experienced and transferred to another list administrator who has the time to dedicate to it. I cannot comment on any other services being hosted by the owner. This list has many dedicated contributors and it would be a shame to lose it simply because of the inability to configure a personal server. These services are basically available similar to home appliances these days. There is not an awful lot of configuration necessary to simply administer an email list in 2015. It's quite uncomplicated. With Google Groups, Yahoo, and many other services such as publicly available Mailman and other list managers, there is no need to go through painful singular configuration to make an email list quite functional and responsive without constant user surveys related to whether migration is desired, etc. Maybe some of the frustration is related to the apparent lack of automation of the user-based administration of list subscription and configuration options that are quite expected on most email lists. Spectacular server crashes are a thing of the past of the proper backup procedures are in place. I used to administer a list of approximately 700 subscribers with about four hours per week of dedication. That certainly can vary and I'm not necessarily trying to draw a direct comparison. I hate to post this directly to the list since I know it's not proper etiquette but I'm frankly tired of getting the long-winded depositions about the status of something that really shouldn't be a problem or the cryptic meanderings about anticipated/unanticipated issues with services unrelated to this list that I don't care about. Services related to the list should probably be separate from any web hosting ventures if the reliability is going to be so suspect. This should not be quite as complicated as it seems to be. Backup the user database on a schedule and change providers accordingly, if necessary., and hopefully very infrequently I know what it's like to run into issues with administering a list. At this point, it seems to be a little unreasonable. It should be an extremely rare occasion when you can't get an immediate backup of the list subscribers but must continuously poll the list for who is subscribed and who wishes to remain. My suggestion is to shoot for some continuity for a while using whatever mechanism will accomplish it and restore the faith of the subscribers. Things have become a little strange here. Right now, when I visit mac-access.net http://mac-access.net/, I am confronted with a raw incarnation of SurgeMail. Jack of all trades is master of none and I'll stay subscribed unless I anger the owner and he actually takes the initiative to manually unsubscribe me. Nevertheless, I'm sick of the duplicate messages, general unreliability, and misadministration of this list. I understand that there may be legitimate reasons why there have been problems but we're all still here. If it's not working and is not going to work, let someone handle it who can do so. Web hosting and other services are unrelated and should not be addressed here unless the subject applies to most subscribers. I have tremendous respect for those who cull through the countless spam and other administrivia required to manage a healthy email list. Right now, this one does not appear to be healthy. On May 25, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Roger, I, too, have been unable to contact Gordon today and my problems are much worse than just unwanted e-mail traffic. Gordon hosts my website and it’s been down for over three weeks now. We were in contact over the week-end, but today, nothing. I can tell you that the mail server is running SurgeMail which is new to me and seems horribly complicated. The unsubscribe message I suggested was adapted from the one that works for my own list, so I don’t know why it isn’t working for this one. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 16:32, Roger Firman roger.fir...@btinternet.com wrote: Dear David and List members, I've tried to make contact with those responsible for this list but any email addresses I have are being rejected. I can't explain what is going on, however, if anyone knows how to make contact then that would be very helpful as it is possible they are unaware of what is happening. Best wishes, Roger. -Original Message- From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] Sent: 25 May 2015 15:21 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: RE: [Mac-Access]: enough! I can understand the frustration. I have been trying also to unsubscribe using the recommended email address without success. I would suggest that the administrator of this list needs to take it down
RE: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
I have heard of this book before. No I haven’t read it. I know you can get it in iBook’s but do you know if I can get it elsewhere? If you can where? Margaret From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 6:52 PM To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages Hello Margaret, Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
i think the mac could really do with this. i will do it today. On 26 May 2015, at 2:57 am, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: You can always email accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accesibil...@apple.com and report the feature as if it were a bug. I do this all the time and send them like 2-3 page usage reports. They appreciate it and tell me so. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac?
thanks i will look in to that e-mail. Michael On 25 May 2015, at 10:54 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is accessibility at apple.com. On 25 May 2015, at 13:16, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, might just do that. do you have an address i can send it to? On 25 May 2015, at 10:07 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Drop Apple an e-mail suggesting it. - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: voiceover automatic language detection on mac? thanks that should help me for now. lets hope they bring detection to the mac like on IOS On 25 May 2015, at 8:08 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Michael, You can change the voice on the fly by pressing VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you leave the voice rotor on voice. I do this all the time between English and French. Cheers, Anne On 25 May 2015, at 11:35, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey all, something has been bugging me ever since i started using VO on the mac. if i have a german voice installed and i find german text VO can not detect and switch to german. on IOS language dictionaries are built into VO so an iPhone can do it automatically. even if i could change languages on the fly quickly that would be better than nothing. thanks for any help Michael
RE: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter? Margaret From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages To use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of doing both, but it will take time. To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through file then templets. Take cre. On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: creating a folder in mail
1. Launch mail. 2. go to the end of the mail window where it says new mail box 3. vo space on that and choose new mail box 4. Decide if you want the mail box to be in the main part of your mac or in your account's side by choosing that in the drop down combo box that appears. 5. vo right to the name field and 6. type in the name of the mail box 7. Hit ok. good luck. On May 25, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please tell me how I can create a folder in Mail on my Mac book pro. Margaret
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button. I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this helps for now. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter? Margaret From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages To use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of doing both, but it will take time. To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through file then templets. Take cre. On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
[Mac-Access]: creating a folder in mail
Can someone please tell me how I can create a folder in Mail on my Mac book pro. Margaret
[Mac-Access]: Pages, selecting text across page boundaries
Hello everyone,
Here is the fix for this problem.
Open a TextEdit document and paste in the following without the quotes:
{
^y = yankAndSelect:; //control-y
^\@ = setMark:; //control-@
^w = deleteToMark:; //control-w
^x = { //control-x control-x
^x = selectToMark:;
};
^ = setMark:; //control-space
~f = moveWordForward:; //option-f
~b = moveWordBackward:; //option-b
}
Save the document as:
DefaultKeyBinding.dict
You’ll need to change the extension to .dict manually.
Go to your user library by going to the Go menu in Finder and using the VO keys
to navigate down to Library.
Create a folder Called KeyBindings and put the .dict document into it.
From now on, you should be able to select text in any text editing application
by pressing Ctrl-Space to mark the beginning of the selection, and Ctrl-x-x to
mark the end of the selection. Everything in between will be selected,
including page breaks.
Cheers,
Anne
Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages
hi, one question re pages how do I get voiceover to read track changes and comments - I use pages a lot and for the most part really like it - experienced the same problems as you re selecting text that goes over multiple pages so if Ann could post the solution to that I would love it. But the one thing I can’t seem to get it to do is read comment bubbles or track changes. - actually it does read the changes a bit now as it will read both suggested changes but the comments bubbles I really want it to read Julie Dr Julie Rattray Lecturer in Psychology and Education University of durham School of Education Leazes Road DURHAM DH1 1TA Tel: 0191 33 48249 Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.ukmailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk On 26 May 2015, at 05:47, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.commailto:marri...@gmail.com wrote: I think cmd option I shows and hides the inspector. you can change to the formater part in the tool bar by checking the fomater radio button. I'm normally a longer email sender, but it's pretty late here. so hope this helps for now. Take care. On May 25, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.commailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your help. How do you get to the formatter? Margaret From: Sarah k Alawami [mailto:marri...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 2:59 AM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages To use styles you need to do that through the formatter. People keep asking me to do either a written or audio guide on how to use pages. I'm thinking of doing both, but it will take time. To access the templets after you create a new document is not possible. but you can save your new document as a templet if you customized it. Do this through file then templets. Take cre. On May 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.commailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to use Pages on her new Mac Book Air. Has anyone got suggestions on where I could find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor. The other question I have is how do you get to the templates after you have created a new document? Also how to you use styles? Margaret
