Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

2015-04-27 Thread Eleanor burke
I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.



 On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 
 
 I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
 think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
 
 
 
 However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
 with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
 machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
 
 
 
 I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different
 operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
 running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
 Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
 be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
 
 
 
 My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
 does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
 to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
 but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
 is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
 Windows?
 
 I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
 could take along there.
 
 
 
 Thank you for any help.
 
 
 
 Brian Hartgen
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion

2015-04-27 Thread Eleanor burke
okay but I'm not sure in the UK if there that's helpful.



 On 27 Apr 2015, at 19:25, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for 
 someone and they finished it with speach when they got  home. lol! Just ask 
 and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are 
 willing to bend over backwards to help me.
 
 take care.
 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows.
 
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 
 
 I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I
 think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it.
 
 
 
 However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or
 with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec
 machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions.
 
 
 
 I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different
 operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of
 running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a
 Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there
 be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader?
 
 
 
 My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there
 does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how
 to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question,
 but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help,
 is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install
 Windows?
 
 I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I
 could take along there.
 
 
 
 Thank you for any help.
 
 
 
 Brian Hartgen
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: weirdness with messages syncing across devices

2015-04-21 Thread Eleanor burke
you have to sort of link them up together.



 On 21 Apr 2015, at 20:44, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 how to fix it. Any suggestions?
 Thanks,
 Hey everyone,
 I have a MacBook Air, an iPad Mini, and an iPhone 5s. Each device is only 
 receiving some of the text and iMessages that I receive. It’s really strange 
 and I’m not exactly sure 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 Phone: 937-733-0525
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
 proverb 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: test

2015-04-21 Thread Eleanor burke
your email to the list is getting through in any case.



 On 21 Apr 2015, at 17:36, Esther Kinsman ekins...@seasidehighspeed.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello: I subscribed to this list, but when I post I'm informed that I'm not 
 registered to post to this list. Can someone please help.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: IOS BT keyboards was re:: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-14 Thread Eleanor burke
where is the key that turns on and off the virtual keyboard on the bluetooth 
keyboard for use with the iphone? 



 On 14 Apr 2015, at 23:24, Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I have the Amazon Basics keyboard, and an Apple bluetooth keyboard. Here are 
 advantages of each.
 Amazon Keyboard
 :
 less expensive;
 on/off switch
 separate button for pairing;
 smaller than Apple keyboard, so keys are smaller and there is not a vertical 
 T for arrow keys;
 Most of the keys are the same size;
 Up/down arrow keys are sandwiched between left/right arrow keys;
 Uses AAA batteries;
 Made of plastic;
 Apple bluetooth keyboard
 Aluminum;
 Nice spacing between keys
 Inverted T for arrow keys
 Good responsiveness
 Difficult to know when keyboard is turned off, after using;
 Toggle button to turn keyboard on/off is flush with one end of the back of 
 keyboard. It has to be pushed in for several seconds, to toggle on/off. There 
 is no tactile/audio feedback to know when this status changes. Tapping a key 
 will let you know if it is still on, but I have had times when I thought it 
 was off, then try to use the virtual keyboard from another room, and it won't 
 come up because the BT keyboard is still on. The Amazon keyboard has a slide 
 switch on the bottom, abd ut us easy to know if it is on or off.
 
 Both keyboards have a key to turn the virtual keyboard on and off, in case 
 you want to use both of them.
 The batteries last a long time in each, and are easily replaced.
 Both keyboards have the apostrophe/double quote key to the right of the 
 simicolon/colon key. 
 Each have function, control, option, command keys, in that order to the  left 
 of the space bar. To the right are the command and option keys.
 
 I prefer typing on the Apple keyboard, because of its responsivemess, but it 
 probably isn't worth the difference in price.
 
 Regarding the phone choice, I would suggest that you get a 5s, rather than a 
 5. It is a 64-bit phone with the touch ID feature, a faster processor, and 
 will support future versions of IOS longer than an iPhone 5.
 Diane Bomar
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: reliable braille translation software.

2015-04-14 Thread Eleanor burke
there is Louis



 On 14 Apr 2015, at 15:04, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Folks:
 
 
 
 Is there a good relyable Braille translation software package out there for
 the mac?
 
 
 
 Thanks all over the place gang.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite has made my macbook run very slowly

2015-03-03 Thread Eleanor Burke
I had the problem last night regarding the lack of speech on the fly when 
trying to adjust volume and yet VO was fine otherwise. I turned VO off and on 
again with Command F5 and then it worked fine for me. However, I cannot suggest 
anything regarding the slowness only to ask if your Mac was suitable for the 
upgrade to Yousemite.

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Subject: [Mac-access]: Yosemite has made my macbook run very slowly
From: trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com
Date: 03/03/2015 10:21 am

I have just installed Yosemite on my 2012 15 inch macbook pro and it has made 
everything go very slowly.
When I VO left and right arrow, voice over is extremely slow to react and, that 
is if it speaks at all.
Has anyone else had this problem and can they tell me how I can fix this 
problem please?

Thank you,

Trevor
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[Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, I know I have asked this before but I am still puzzled.  Whenever I 
reply to an e-mail, the original e-mail does not close.  I have to actively 
close it with command W.  This I find strange, even if it is an e-mail from an 
individual and not via an e-mail list.  Any ideas please?

Eleanor
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[Mac-access]: Updates on Mac

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, I am wondering if there is something wrong with my Mac updates as I 
haven’t had any for weeks and I am always getting them for iPhone and iPad 
Mini.  I am using mobile broadband and wondered if it has something to do with 
this at present.

Eleanor
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[Mac-access]: Sendspace VO Extended Accessability

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Chris and All, I found that this was set as default, just checked it out 
when Chris mentioned it.  I found it in the Menu under Options and the option 
for me was disabled extended voice over compatibility.  Thanks Chris for 
broadening my knowledge here.  I also succeeded in changing the default e-mail. 
 Now do I need to have an iCloud e-mail account?  Presumably I do for 
synchronising across devices.

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Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Gorden. It works out same but I appreciate your explanatory reply and at 
least I now know it is not just me.
Eleanor

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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
Date: 15/01/2015 6:42 pm

Hi

If you open the message by hitting enter on it, then reply to it, it will 
return you to the message window upon sending the reply.  This is design 
philosophy. The work-around is to close the message and then hit Command+R.  
That will induce behaviour to want.

==

Kindest Regards

Gordon Smith
gor...@mac-access.net
IT Accessibility Consultant –  Alternative Format Transcriber:
Sunnyside Academy
Manor Farm Way
Colby Newham
MIDDLESBOROUGH
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TS8 0RJ

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On 15 Jan 2015, at 14:55, Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All, I know I have asked this before but I am still puzzled.  Whenever I 
reply to an e-mail, the original e-mail does not close.  I have to actively 
close it with command W.  This I find strange, even if it is an e-mail from an 
individual and not via an e-mail list.  Any ideas please?

Eleanor
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[Mac-access]: Mac Questions

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
When I am logging in to my Mac the volume of voice over is just fine but once I 
get to finder the volume is greatly increased.  I have reduced this volume when 
at the finder but again next time I login again the volume has again reverted 
to very loud.  How can I make it that it does not do this?
I would also like to make one of my three e-mail addresses the default one, 
currently I have to keep changing it as iCloud is the default.

Finally I seem to have 2 groups of Contacts in my contacts app, iCloud and 
Google.  Is it possible simply to merge these as I would rather have all 
together.  I also do not know how to navigate to the information in a contact 
from the contact table where the particular contact is highlighted.

Thanks

Eleanor
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Dianne when I first raised this question on list, Sarah said she had written 
more than once to sendspace about this to no avail. It is unfortunate that her 
e-mails went ignored.
Eleanor

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
From: Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net
Date: 15/01/2015 8:47 am

The problem I have with using Sendspace on the Mac, is the one that Eleanor was 
referringnto. How many of you have written to SenndSpace, explaining the 
problem. I have sent many questions, and get the response that no one else 
seems to be having a problem with VO and Sendspace. nI have turned on the VO 
switch, but cannot read the login and password fieldsSo, Sarah, if you know how 
to do this, please let me know, and everyone having problems with this, PLEASE 
write to that arrogant dude at Sendspace. It seems that he is the only one 
there, whereever there may be. I don't think it is in the U.S. Britain, 
Canada or Australia. Can you imagine all of the data they control, without any 
accountability? Sorry, I know that is off-topic, just food for thought.


Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2015, at 16:18, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually turn that off and simply do a vo shift m on the app file. this will 
make you more secure.  All you need to do then is just hit open once and it 
will never bug you again.
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 1. Have you copied it to your applications folder?
 2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your system 
 preferences?
 
 David Griffith 
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:35, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Ive asked this question before , but its been a long time since I’ve done it.
 I’m trying to install the sendspace wizard on the mac.
 I downloaded the disc image , opened it wit, and it shows me the sendspace 
 app.
 I open it, but its not installing on the mac.
 Can anyone help please?
 
 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Well I was just saying that I was aware of someone else who had written. I do 
not know who to write to so if you would like to put his e-mail contact on list 
that would be a start. I really was unsure if it were a sendspace problem as 
for example om my Mac Book Air I get clicks when I write in a password field 
but many times on my Mac Book Pro there are no clicks in password fields. I got 
sighted assistance when putting in my username and password in the sendspace 
app and yet Sarah said she was unable to do it without sighted assistance so we 
all have different capability levels.

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
From: Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net
Date: 15/01/2015 10:45 am



In situations, such as this, EVERYONE having the problem must write to whoever 
can fix it. This guy wrote back to me many times, saying that there was no 
problem, and stated that they had added the VoiceOver compatability switch, and 
everything worked fine for everyone else. Because they refuse to communicate 
via anything other email, it is very difficult, at best, to explain what is 
going on. I need to retrieve files from SendSpace on a regular basis, and have 
given up trying to do it with my Mac. Instead, I download them to my 10+ years 
windows xp laptop. This is quite a pain, as I want to get away from using that 
machine IIf only we could convince these guys to check out the issue on their 
end: run VO and turn off the screen!! I asked him to do this, several times. 
Just because Sarah wrote to him, and I wrote doesn't mean that no one else 
should bring the issue with his program. Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2015, at 01:56, Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

Dianne when I first raised this question on list, Sarah said she had written 
more than once to sendspace about this to no avail. It is unfortunate that her 
e-mails went ignored.
Eleanor

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
From: Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net
Date: 15/01/2015 8:47 am

The problem I have with using Sendspace on the Mac, is the one that Eleanor was 
referringnto. How many of you have written to SenndSpace, explaining the 
problem. I have sent many questions, and get the response that no one else 
seems to be having a problem with VO and Sendspace. nI have turned on the VO 
switch, but cannot read the login and password fieldsSo, Sarah, if you know how 
to do this, please let me know, and everyone having problems with this, PLEASE 
write to that arrogant dude at Sendspace. It seems that he is the only one 
there, whereever there may be. I don't think it is in the U.S. Britain, 
Canada or Australia. Can you imagine all of the data they control, without any 
accountability? Sorry, I know that is off-topic, just food for thought.


Leedy Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2015, at 16:18, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually turn that off and simply do a vo shift m on the app file. this will 
make you more secure.  All you need to do then is just hit open once and it 
will never bug you again.
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 1. Have you copied it to your applications folder?
 2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your system 
 preferences?
 
 David Griffith 
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:35, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Ive asked this question before , but its been a long time since I’ve done it.
 I’m trying to install the sendspace wizard on the mac.
 I downloaded the disc image , opened it wit, and it shows me the sendspace 
 app.
 I open it, but its not installing on the mac.
 Can anyone help please?
 
 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net
 
 
 
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[Mac-access]: iPhone Questions

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, I am wondering why my contacts on my iPhone and iPad Mini are identical 
but they are displayed differently on my Mac.  Why is this?
I am also wondering how I can select a line of text say within a message to 
copy and paste elsewhere.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
What exactly under security?? Does it mean unlocking the padlock permanently? I 
unlock it each time I want to make a change or is it some other setting I need 
to change?

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
Date: 15/01/2015 12:42 pm

David  writes:

2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your system 
preferences?

Ooo!  Very! very! good point!  I didn't even think about that.  I change 
that setting almost right away after an OSX install, so it's now so second 
nature for me to do, I completely! forgot about that.  Thanks for the 
reminder.

That's definitely! something worthwhile to check.

That will be in system preferencesSecurity.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac


 1. Have you copied it to your applications folder?
 2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your system 
 preferences?

 David Griffith
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:35, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Ive asked this question before , but its been a long time since I’ve done 
 it.
 I’m trying to install the sendspace wizard on the mac.
 I downloaded the disc image , opened it wit, and it shows me the 
 sendspace app.
 I open it, but its not installing on the mac.
 Can anyone help please?

 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net



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Re: [Mac-access]: iPhone Questions

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
They are not in alphabetical format like on my phone and there are 2 groups 
iCloud and Google. Most of these are duplications but there are more in iCloud. 
I do not know how to read the contact card once a contact has been highlighted 
in a table. I have tried various things from enter, tab, vo right and left 
arrow, vo and spacebar and even spacebar only. I have tried command j and shift 
command j but nothing works. I have some residual vision and I can see the 
contact card to the right of the table and the information there but just 
cannot read it with vo

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: iPhone Questions
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
Date: 15/01/2015 12:49 pm

I'm not sure that I totally understand your question.  I get the jidst of 
it, but when you say your contacts don't look the same on your mac, can you 
be more specific?  Like, are you saying they're sorted differently, by last 
name then first name, instead of first name last?  I'm just a bit confused 
on how they look different.  It's gonna be very hard for us to help, not 
knowing the specifics.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:38 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: iPhone Questions


 Hi All, I am wondering why my contacts on my iPhone and iPad Mini are 
 identical but they are displayed differently on my Mac.  Why is this?
 I am also wondering how I can select a line of text say within a message 
 to copy and paste elsewhere.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Well Chris it is probably my Mac Book Pro because more often than not I don't 
get the clicks when putting in passwords wheress on my MBA it is not an issue. 
Now what do you think is going on there?

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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
Date: 15/01/2015 1:19 pm

OK, now, I don't remember having that problem with putting in my password, 
but again, realize that there may have been an update since when I tried, 
which broke that.  Gosh, looks like I may just have to reinstall long enough 
to see what's going on.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac


 Well I was just saying that I was aware of someone else who had written. I 
 do not know who to write to so if you would like to put his e-mail contact 
 on list that would be a start. I really was unsure if it were a sendspace 
 problem as for example om my Mac Book Air I get clicks when I write in a 
 password field but many times on my Mac Book Pro there are no clicks in 
 password fields. I got sighted assistance when putting in my username and 
 password in the sendspace app and yet Sarah said she was unable to do it 
 without sighted assistance so we all have different capability levels.

 -original message-
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
 From: Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net
 Date: 15/01/2015 10:45 am



 In situations, such as this, EVERYONE having the problem must write to 
 whoever can fix it. This guy wrote back to me many times, saying that 
 there was no problem, and stated that they had added the VoiceOver 
 compatability switch, and everything worked fine for everyone else. 
 Because they refuse to communicate via anything other email, it is very 
 difficult, at best, to explain what is going on. I need to retrieve files 
 from SendSpace on a regular basis, and have given up trying to do it with 
 my Mac. Instead, I download them to my 10+ years windows xp laptop. This 
 is quite a pain, as I want to get away from using that machine IIf only we 
 could convince these guys to check out the issue on their end: run VO and 
 turn off the screen!! I asked him to do this, several times. Just because 
 Sarah wrote to him, and I wrote doesn't mean that no one else should bring 
 the issue with his program. Diane Bomar
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 15, 2015, at 01:56, Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Dianne when I first raised this question on list, Sarah said she had 
 written more than once to sendspace about this to no avail. It is 
 unfortunate that her e-mails went ignored.
 Eleanor

 -original message-
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Installing the sendspace wizard for mac
 From: Diane Bomare bomon...@earthlink.net
 Date: 15/01/2015 8:47 am

 The problem I have with using Sendspace on the Mac, is the one that 
 Eleanor was referringnto. How many of you have written to SenndSpace, 
 explaining the problem. I have sent many questions, and get the response 
 that no one else seems to be having a problem with VO and Sendspace. nI 
 have turned on the VO switch, but cannot read the login and password 
 fieldsSo, Sarah, if you know how to do this, please let me know, and 
 everyone having problems with this, PLEASE write to that arrogant dude at 
 Sendspace. It seems that he is the only one there, whereever there may 
 be. I don't think it is in the U.S. Britain, Canada or Australia. Can you 
 imagine all of the data they control, without any accountability? Sorry, I 
 know that is off-topic, just food for thought.


 Leedy Diane Bomar
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 14, 2015, at 16:18, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually turn that off and simply do a vo shift m on the app file. this 
 will make you more secure.  All you need to do then is just hit open once 
 and it will never bug you again.
 On Jan 14, 2015, at 2:48 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 1. Have you copied it to your applications folder?
 2. have you set up permission to install apps from anywhere in your 
 system preferences?

 David Griffith
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 22:35, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net 
 wrote:

 Ive asked this question before , but its been a long time since I’ve 
 done it.
 I’m trying to install the sendspace wizard on the mac.
 I downloaded the disc image , opened it wit, and it shows me the 
 sendspace app.
 I open it, but its not installing on the mac.
 Can anyone help please?

 George Cham
 george.c...@mac-access.net



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Re: [Mac-access]: Updates on Mac

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thank you for that Gorden. I am currently in Ireland on holiday. I am getting 
the updates on iPhone and iPad Mini which would suggest that they are not being 
blocked. I just wondered if there had been updates in Jan for Mac. Thanks.
Eleanor

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Updates on Mac
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
Date: 15/01/2015 6:55 pm

I cannot vouch for your provider but I know that there are some mobile 
providers who do block this type of content. In the UK, I know that there have 
been a lot of complaints to OffCom, the independent watchdog of the 
telecommunications industry, because automatic updates have caused users to 
exceed their monthly bandwidth allocation, and/or incurred very large bills.  
Actually, Windows phone users are more vulnerable to this than OS X or iOS 
users because these OS’s usually let you know before downloading large updates, 
whereas Windows Phone just “does it”, on-the-fly.

==

Kindest Regards

Gordon Smith
gor...@mac-access.net
IT Accessibility Consultant –  Alternative Format Transcriber:
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Hi All, I am wondering if there is something wrong with my Mac updates as I 
haven’t had any for weeks and I am always getting them for iPhone and iPad 
Mini.  I am using mobile broadband and wondered if it has something to do with 
this at present.

Eleanor
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Re: [Mac-access]: audio conversion software

2015-01-06 Thread Eleanor Burke
I took the liberty of downloading from your Dropbox Antonio as you put it on 
list.  Now when I went to unzip it, there seemed to be a couple of apps, is 
this correct and if so do I just copy them to the apps folder?  Sorry still 
feel relatively new when it comes to Mac though I believe I will have my MBA a 
year at the end of this month.  Cannot believe it!!!

Eleanor
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 10:13, António Silva amcsi...@letras.up.pt wrote:
 
 
 Hello.
 For MAC OS MAX 0.9 is the best.
 You can download it from my Dropbox account:
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m2xni6hgokk6rs/Max-0.9.1.tar.bz2?dl=0
 
 
 António Silva
 
 
 -Mensagem Original- From: Ismael Herrera
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 4:30 AM
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Mac-access]: audio conversion software
 
 Happy new year everyone!
 
 Does anyone know of any audio software that can convert APE and FLAC files to 
 MP3?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

2015-01-06 Thread Eleanor Burke
Well this is great, but for the benefit of those who have not heard the podcast 
for whatever reason, hearing impairment for example, would you be so kind as to 
re-state in writing (or someone else) s to how one can request VLC to be the 
default player for MP3 files?  Many thanks.

Eleanor
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 17:04, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 1. Open Safari.
 2. Press command comma to open Safari preferences.
 3. Go to the General tab and then VO space on that.
 4. Navigate down until you hear 
 Open “safe” files after downloading checked checkbox
 Press vo space on that to clear the checkbox and then command W to close the 
 preferences pane.
 
 if you listen to the Podcast I did on using Vlc as a Radio Player you will 
 hear in that how to change filetype associations so that files will play in 
 VLC.
 
 David Griffith
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 15:32, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 Running the latest Yosemite and ITunes on my Mac Book Pro, and I am
 downloading podcasts from Sendspace  and encountering the following:
 
 I successfully download a podcast on to my Mac book pro.  The download is
 successful , but, ITunes immediately and automatically starts to play the
 downloaded MP3 file-please can you explain step by step how I can prevent
 this from happening following a download?
 
 Secondly, when I highlight the downloaded MP3 file in my downloads folder
 and open the context menu and arrow down to open with sub menu is there a
 way I can add VLC to this list? I note that there is an option called
 other in this sub menu but I then get lost trying to navigate the screen
 when I press enter on this item.  VLC is already downloaded and in my
 applications folder.  
 
 Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated
 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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[Mac-access]: Connecting A Nokia Phone to My Mac

2014-12-20 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All,
I want to connect my Nokia E6 to my Mac in order that I can access the Memory 
Card, copy a file from it and paste the file on the Mac.  The file I want to 
copy is Talks which is used on Nokia phones as a screen reader.  I then want to 
cut and paste the Talks file to another Nokia phone’s memory drive.  How can I 
do this?  Presumably my Mac can see my phone’s memory card as an external 
drive. it is not showing up on the desktop as a drive and when I go to computer 
I am not finding it.  Can someone please tell me how to locate this memory card 
as external hard drive.

Eleanor
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Re: [Mac-access]: Confused about podcasts on iPhone 5S

2014-12-20 Thread Eleanor Burke
I could not get it to play by going to the link, sorry!  If anyone can help I 
would appreciate it.

Eleanor
 On 20 Dec 2014, at 16:39, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A lot. You can create playlists for certain podcast groups, I have 2 for tech 
 and audio booms for those I follow. I even combined several parts of an rss 
 feed in to playlists. Plus their podcast dir is huge! I found stuff I have 
 not heard in years.  If you go to http://tffppodcast.com/listen 
 http://tffppodcast.com/listen  or http://tffppodcast.com/feeds/tffp 
 http://tffppodcast.com/feeds/tffp you will if you search for it find my 
 down cast podcast for mac, which needs to be updated, and ios.
 
 Blessings. 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 what is better about Downcast as I have both.
 
 
 
 On 20 Dec 2014, at 15:41, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Downcast is better then apples attempt at podcast apps. Use that instead if 
 possible.  
 
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 06:59, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I have an iPhone 5S running IOS 8.1.2 and an iMac running MAC OS 10.10.1. 
 I normally access podcasts using iTunes on my iMac and then sync them to 
 my iPod Nano G7 so that I can listen to them on the move. 
 
 However there is now a problem with the iPod Nano and so I instead want to 
 access podcasts on my iPhone 5S. When I had an iPhone 3GS running IOS 6 
 podcasts appeared in the Music App on the iPhone and were synced with 
 iTunes just like they are on the iPod Nano. that worked fine. 
 
 Now on the iPhone 5S I cannot see podcasts in the Music App at all. I see 
 that there is a Podcast App on the iPhone and if I open that I see the 
 same list of podcasts as in iTunes on my iMac. However my iPhone contains 
 a large number of podcasts which I have already listened to on the iPod. 
 
 I would really like the iPhone 5S to behave like the iPhone 3GS and sync 
 podcasts with iTunes in the normal way so that podcasts appear in the 
 Music App on the iPhone 5S. How can I accomplish this? 
 
 If the above is not possible is there any way to mark a large number of 
 podcasts or even all podcasts in the iPhone podcasts App as played to 
 reduce confusion? 
 
 Many thanks for any help….
 
 Paul Hopewell
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Re: Deleting Premium Voices from Mac

2014-07-31 Thread Eleanor Burke
I have succeeded in doing this now Isaac and cannot believe how many voices I 
had to delete.  Still have a lot.  Can anyone tell me which are the most 
responsive voices as I only want to keep the most responsive ones.  
On 31 Jul 2014, at 13:28, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 To delete the premium voices. 
 First go to the finder and then press command shift g to go to the go to 
 folder dialog. 
 Next type /system/library/speech/voices and then press enter. 
 Next use the up and down arrow keys to find the voices you want to delete and 
 then press  command delete. 
 
 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:31 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, I wqould like to delete some of the premium voices as I downloaded 
 all English voices.  Where do I go to on the Mac to do this please?
 
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 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 
 Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you’re wifi 
 network?
 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have 
 lost
 my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only Daniel
 available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my hearing
 loss.
 
 Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet connection and
 Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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Re: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder

2014-07-29 Thread Eleanor Burke
Can I not put it on the doc then?
On 29 Jul 2014, at 23:27, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, so if you go to your dropbox folder by hitting cmd shift h from the 
 finder  then hit cmd down arrow on your dropbox folder you should get it to 
 open.  You don't need to ever use the app to open that folder, ever.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am saying that I am unable to open the folder.  I am getting the message 
 dropbox has no windows.
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder
 
 
 You dont' need to open the app to access yoru folder. Just open yoru db 
 folder.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, I think I am being misunderstood.  If I want to access files in my 
 Dropbox then I must be able to open it!!!  I cannot open it either in 
 Applications or on the Dock as I get the message Dropbox has no Windows. 
 How do I rectify this problem?
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 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder
 
 
 Actually when you start it forget it.  The folder is where you put it and 
 you no longer once you start the app need to even deal with it. it just 
 syncks and stuff.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did not have a problem with dropbox until an hour ago.  Someone 
 altered a setting and this is why I have the problem.  As I understood 
 it the person just unchecked the box to prevent dropbox starting at 
 start-up and I have had the problem since.
 
 Eleanor
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 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder
 
 
 The drop box icon is usually found in your status menu.  Hit vo m twice 
 to
 get there.  Also, wwhen you installed drop box, it asked you where you
 wanted the folder, that's where you will find it in the folder you 
 selected.
 I usually put my in my documents folder.  Hth
 
 
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha 
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 Subject: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder
 
 Hi All, I don't know what I did but sure someone can help!  In Dock and 
 in
 Applications folder, when I try to open Dropbox I am told Dropbox has no
 window.  Yet in Finder on the desktop I have a dropbox alius and if I 
 open
 it all my files are there.
 
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Re: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder

2014-07-29 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Colin, when I open the Dropbox Alius in Finder, it does not show up in the 
Doc so I cannot do that what you say, open menu and choose to leave in Doc.
On 29 Jul 2014, at 23:51, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:

 Hi Eleanor!
 OK forget the Doc and the Applocations!
 Use the alias you set up!
 Open it from there and see if it appears on the Doc after you've opened it!
 If you have a dropbox on your Doc already go to it first and VO+shift+M and 
 go to the option to remove from Doc!
 And after that open the Alias Dropbox to see if that one appears in the Doc 
 and if so use VO+shift+M on it and choose the option to keep in Doc and from 
 then you should have no more problems!
 The Dropbox in your Applecations is no good because of the Alias!
 HTH Colin
 
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Re: Verbosity in E-mail

2014-07-27 Thread Eleanor Burke
How do you do that?
On 27 Jul 2014, at 20:16, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:

 Not only that, you can customize the amount of detils voice over gives you
 about a message too.
 
 Are you a Christian?  Looking for a convenient bible study?  Do you have
 Skype?  Well I host a fun, easy to follow bible study on skype.  If you'd
 like to join us, just contact me on Twitter @MinisterKliph or email at
 m.kliph...@icloud.com  Look forward to having you!
 Stay Blessed!
 Minister Miller
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAKE JOEHL
 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:12 PM
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Verbosity in E-mail
 
 Hi everyone. Sorry this is a bit late, but I've been going through my email
 and deleting unwanted messages to try and find the root cause of a rather
 odd problem. But here is a tip I found yesterday on AppleVis, which can help
 with email verbosity. Apologies in advance if this is a duplicate post. But
 you can actually control how much of the message is read when just arrowing
 to it or going through email for the first time or whatever. To do this,
 bring up the View menu by going to mail Preferences with Command-Comma, and
 then tab to the View menu. I had to turn Quicknav on in order to find the
 exact setting, but it is called List Preview. You will find a pop-up menu
 which lets you control the number of lines read after announcing the
 message. Hope this helps someone.
 Jake
 
 
 
 --Please visit me at http://jazzyjj.dreamwidth.org .
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 Press VO-V then navigate right until you hear Text Attributes. use the up or
 down arrow to find DO Nothing, then press Return.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 25 Jul 2014, at 20:17, Eleanor Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 It hasn't made any difference when I change to minimum, it is still
 reading out everything from type face to colour etc etc.
 
 Eleanor
 On 25 Jul 2014, at 18:56, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 
 Yes, you can change this behavior in the text tab, but you can also use
 vo-v to do it quicker.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 It's the text atributes. I think it's in the text tab of the verbosity
 pane.
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 12:45, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am reading an e-mail with a link, when I come to the link vo says a
 shade of royal blue on and it then reads the link.  I have tried to alter
 the verbosity from high, through medium and low but even on low vo still
 says this about a shade of royal blue, it also seems to be reading out font
 type face and colour.  Any ideas please.  This was why I was looking for
 Skype help so someone might hear what is going on.
 
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Re: Verbosity in E-mail

2014-07-25 Thread Eleanor Burke
It hasn’t made any difference when I change to minimum, it is still reading out 
everything from type face to colour etc etc.

Eleanor
On 25 Jul 2014, at 18:56, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

 Yes, you can change this behavior in the text tab, but you can also use vo-v 
 to do it quicker.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 It's the text atributes. I think it's in the text tab of the verbosity pane.
 
 On Jul 25, 2014, at 12:45, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am reading an e-mail with a link, when I come to the link vo says a shade 
 of royal blue on and it then reads the link.  I have tried to alter the 
 verbosity from high, through medium and low but even on low vo still says 
 this about a shade of royal blue, it also seems to be reading out font type 
 face and colour.  Any ideas please.  This was why I was looking for Skype 
 help so someone might hear what is going on.
 
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-23 Thread Eleanor Burke
Well I am not so sure this is what I want though I am not doubting your 
instruction.  I did not set up an activity, just that vo is saying finder 
activity and when I open Mail vo says mail activity.  This is why I thought it 
might be a verbosity issue.

Eleanor
On 23 Jul 2014, at 10:55, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Removing activities is easy.
 
 Go to voiceover utility VO F8
 Interact with the Utility Table.
 Cursor down to Activities
 Tab out of the Utility Table into the Activity dialogue.
 Interact with the Activity Table  shown there.
 Cursor through the table until you have selected the activity you want to
 remove.
 Tab out of that table and you will land probably on the add button.
 VO Right arrow once and you will land on the remove button.
 Hit that button and then close VO Utility.
 Job done.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
 Sent: 23 July 2014 09:37
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
 
 OK Chris, I will await other responses.  I obviously just accidentally 
 changed something.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:34 AM
 Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo
 
 
 Sounds like you have an activity set for Finder. So open the VoiceOver 
 Utility with vo-f8, press command-0 to select activities in the categories
 
 table. Now I'm not sure how you remove these so rather than guessing will 
 stop there and let others chime in.
 
 On 22/07/2014 22:07, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder 
 Activity?
 On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options 
 dialogue box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it 
 says words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you 
 out of the window.
 
 
 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo. 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Bulk] Closing A Programme Before Deleting It

2014-07-23 Thread Eleanor Burke
Again this is not the issue the programme is meant to be running in the 
background, just as Dropbox runs in the background.  All I want is to know how 
to close it before removing it.

Eleanor
On 23 Jul 2014, at 11:06, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 
 I use Clean my Mac for all these sorts of tasks.  Removing programs like
 this which load at start up is one  of its specialities.
 You do have to pay for it after the trial has expired.
 
 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
 Sent: 23 July 2014 09:29
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: [Bulk] Closing A Programme Before Deleting It
 
 I have Bit Torrant Sinc running and I want to remove it but I cannot remove 
 it from the Applications folder as it is open.  I recall someone telling me 
 something about the equivilent to Task manager but I forget about it.  I 
 presume I have to go in somewhere, close it and then I will be able to 
 remove it.  Help please, thanks.
 
 Eleanor 
 
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-22 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Chris, working well now.  Cannot imagine how I did that though I was 
looking around in that area before.  
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue 
 box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says 
 words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out 
 of the window.
 
 
 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo.  Thanks.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: Mac Keyboard Key and Word Echo

2014-07-22 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Chris.  Now why is VO saying when I am at the Finder, Finder Activity?
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:46, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 Well to change typing echo from the defaults to words do the following:
 1. Press vo-v to open the OS X equivalent of the Adjust JAWS Options dialogue 
 box.
 2. Right arrow until you hear typing echo. Press up or down until it says 
 words.
 3. Press return and it will say stop adjusting typing echo and take you out 
 of the window.
 
 
 On 22/07/2014 20:30, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 Hi, I want to know what should I change to get key and word echo.  Thanks.
 
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Re: Focus Blu now Connecting Via Bluetooth

2014-07-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Great Anne, I am now up and running with Braille display.  Now if I want to use 
my Braille display rather than the keyboard, where can I get information on 
using the display  for writing?
On 17 Jul 2014, at 19:15, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Eleanor,
 
 In VoiceOver Utility, go down to the second from last category which is 
 Braille. Select Layout. You’ll find several check boxes such as Use 8-dot 
 Braille, and others. Then select the Verbosity category and select Braille. 
 Set Braille verbosity to either low or medium.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 hurdle is now over and I can connect via usb and bluetooth.  Now I just feel 
 the display is too cluttered for me, if I am in an e-mail say, it is fine 
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Re: General Mac Query - A Clarification

2014-07-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Ah I am going to attempt a reply here so that I am participating as well as 
asking questions.  The Dock is a designated area running along the bottom of 
the screen and your commonly used apps are housed there.  Some people have a 
lot of apps on the dock whereas others do not.  The advantage of the dock is 
that it saves going in to the Applications folder which you would have to do 
once on the Desktop.  Visually sighted people get a quick glance at all their 
apps and for us we get there very quickly.  If you have Mail on the dock, then 
once in the dock you can hit the letter M.  However if you have more than one 
app starting with the letter M such as messages it is quicker to press the 
initial two letters of the word as hitting M twice does not jump you to all the 
different apps starting with the letter M.  Now the desktop has some icons on 
it but mainly shows up volumes which are referred to on Windows machine as 
drives.  You could have a lot of items ion the desktop but it i
 s not designed for that purpose.  Finder is the app that controls the desktop. 
 

Apologies to experienced users if this is simple and basic and hopefully not 
inaccurate.  I just want to get some experience also of answering questions for 
others.
On 5 Jul 2014, at 18:27, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I think these are great questions too.  I'd like to add one also:
 What's the difference between the desktop and dock?
 I know what the dock is on iDevices, but what is its function on the Mac?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 5, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Mark arosind...@me.com wrote:
 
 Just wanted to say, good questions. I am in the same position as yourself, 
 in trying to transition from a Windows environment to Mac. I agree with you, 
 that it is not intuitive. Looking forward to someone responding, in basic 
 terms, to your questions.
 Mark
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Hi All, I have been coming to terms with a Mac for over 6 weeks now on a 
 daily basis and a little before that from time to time.  However there are 
 some concepts I really cannot come to work out which by now should be fairly 
 obvious to me.  Hope someone can clarify these for me.
 
 At this point I would like to say I have good experience of Windows and it 
 is because of this I am finding some of these Mac concepts difficult rather 
 than them being intuitive.
 
 Here goes then,
 
 1. I think as a rule of thumb quic nav is mainly used for navagating the web 
 but not otherwise.  Is this correct?
 2. While I know that single key navagation can be used with the tab key, I 
 cannot work out when I need to tab and when I need to vo right arrow.
 3. Interacting and uninteracting, I just don't know when and when not to do 
 this.  When someone has guided me they have said to interact and now 
 uninteract, left to my own devices I cannot make a decision as to when to 
 interact and when not to.
 
 Sorry if these are silly questions but I think once I have clarification on 
 these I will have moved forward quite a pace with my Mac. 
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Time Capsule

2014-04-01 Thread Eleanor Burke

Anyone on list using this?

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Re: Time Capsule

2014-04-01 Thread Eleanor Burke

Apologies Time Capsule?
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Time Capsule


please be more specific in your request for help. We cannot read minds 
yet.


What error messages if any are you getting? What steps have you taken to 
troubleshoot the problem etc.


Take care.
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Anyone on list using this?

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Re: Time Capsule

2014-04-01 Thread Eleanor Burke
I just wanted to know if people were using it and how they are finding it. 
As a new Mac user I have not purchased one yet as they are expensive and I 
am wondering how many people would not be without them.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Time Capsule


so, what do you need help with? what error messages are you getting? If 
you are having a problem what steps have you taken in troubleshooting? 
Also what model of the time capsule are you using? Us list members need to 
know this in order to better assist.


Take care.
On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
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Apologies Time Capsule?
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Time Capsule


please be more specific in your request for help. We cannot read minds 
yet.


What error messages if any are you getting? What steps have you taken to 
troubleshoot the problem etc.


Take care.
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Re: new iPhone user

2014-04-01 Thread Eleanor Burke
Is type2phone for the phone or does one have to download it on to the Mac 
also?
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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: new iPhone user


I’ll let someone more knowledgeable discuss transferring your contacts, but 
you can use Type to phone to enter information on the phone.  applevis.com 
is a great resource for podcasts regarding the iPhone.



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I am getting a second hand iPhone 4s this weekend, knowing nothing about 
iPhones I will need some help please.  How can I transfer
 say my Contacts over to the iPhone. I thought as I have no idea on typing 
on the phone if I could move things over from the Macbook it would be 
easier.  Which typing mode is the easiest to use? is Flexki a good idea or 
not. I have Type 2 phone on my Mac.   And finally for now which Satt. navs 
applications work well in UK.

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Re: Time Capsule

2014-04-01 Thread Eleanor Burke
thank you that is excellent and that is the opinion I had myself

Sent from my iPhone

 On 1 Apr 2014, at 20:11, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah Ok. I personally do not use one.  as I don't need one. If you had a router 
 and felt comfortable using it as a network storage device, NAS, then you 
 could go that route. Otherwise you could just get a 2tb drive for probably 
 under $100 and do your time machine back ups that way.
 
 I know you will get other opinions on the list about what to use, but as for 
 me since I am the only mac user at home, this is all I need, I have a cheap 
 1tb drive for my time machine back ups that will hopefully soon be replaced 
 with a 2 or 4 tb elements drive  by WD.
 
 Hope that helps now that we know what you want  answers to.
 
 Take care.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just wanted to know if people were using it and how they are finding it. 
 As a new Mac user I have not purchased one yet as they are expensive and I 
 am wondering how many people would not be without them.
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Time Capsule
 
 
 so, what do you need help with? what error messages are you getting? If you 
 are having a problem what steps have you taken in troubleshooting? Also 
 what model of the time capsule are you using? Us list members need to know 
 this in order to better assist.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Apologies Time Capsule?
 - Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Time Capsule
 
 
 please be more specific in your request for help. We cannot read minds 
 yet.
 
 What error messages if any are you getting? What steps have you taken to 
 troubleshoot the problem etc.
 
 Take care.
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 Anyone on list using this?
 
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Audasity

2014-03-31 Thread Eleanor Burke
Anyone on list using Audasity?  My question is this, once I record I am 
currently having to tab around to stop which defeats the purpose of 
recording something as all the vo speech is coming through.  How can I stop? 


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External DVD

2014-03-30 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi, I have an external DVD player for my Mac Book Air.  Do not know how to 
eject the DVD or CD from it.


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Re: External DVD

2014-03-30 Thread Eleanor Burke

Command eat, sorry I do not understand!

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: External DVD



Try command eat

Sent from my iPod

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Hi, I have an external DVD player for my Mac Book Air.  Do not know how 
to eject the DVD or CD from it.


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Re: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed

2014-03-30 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thank you for such a comprehensive reply David do I get clean my Mac from the 
App Store

Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Mar 2014, at 14:49, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Well first of all you will never encounter this if you only install appps
 from the App Store.
 However not all the useful programs are available from the App Store and I
 believe that Audacity is in that category.
 Traditionally Mac programs  Were distributed on CD and the disk image was
 intended to replicate this on the Mac. What happens when you open the dis
 image file is that a virtual drive is created on your desktop much as if you
 had inserted a CD or DVD into your Mac..
 
 With most applications originating from Mac  programmers you will tend to
 find that the disk image simply contains application files which you copy to
 the application folder to run.
 In this sense the Mac was much neater than Windows as you did not have a
 setup process to go through. You simply copied  an app to the application
 folder and then deleted it from the application folder if you no longer
 wanted the program. So there was no need for an add remove programs function
 like in Windows.
 
 However life is not as neat as that and many programs, including I believe
 Audacity, are ported across from Windows and may insist on a setup process.
 You will find for another example, that Adobe will even on the Mac, insist
 on a windows style setup program.
 
 This and other issues has created a situation where debris can be left on
 the Mac much like a Windows machine which is why people use utilities like
 clean my Mac nowadays.
 
 Anyway the basic rule of thumb when you open the disk image drive on your
 desktop is to 
 1. if there are simply appp files just copy everything to your application
 folder.
 2. If there is however a program called install or setup you will have to
 run that from the disk image.
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
 Sent: 30 March 2014 02:35
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed
 
 okay thanks David why does it behave like that
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 29 Mar 2014, at 23:33, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 What do you mean that it has ended up on Finder?
 
 Do you mean that it has ended up on the Desktop?
 
 If it has ended up on the Desktop this is probably because the initial
 download installed probably a disk image file dmg  format which has
 temporarily mounted a virtual drive on your desktop.
 
 If this is the case you can run the install from within the disk image by
 pressing command O.
 
 If there is an install program run the program from within the disk image.
 
 If in contrast there are applications, files ending in app you simply need
 to copy all of these manually to the  applications folder and run them
 from
 there.
 
 After you have done this you can close the disk image with command Q and
 then press command E on the dmg file on the desktop to eject this virtual
 drive.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
 Sent: 29 March 2014 21:27
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed
 
 I downloaded a programme to my Dropbox and from there installed it but I
 do 
 not know if it is installed.  Following the installation it ended up on 
 Finder.  The programme is a peace of software that works with Audasity to 
 allow export to different formats.
 
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iPhone Question

2014-03-29 Thread Eleanor Burke
On a virtual keyboard on the iPhone there are numerous emoticons to choose 
from.  Is there any way of accessing the same icons using a bluetooth 
keyboard?  I am aware of various key strokes that produce emoticons but this 
is not what I am after. 


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How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed

2014-03-29 Thread Eleanor Burke
I downloaded a programme to my Dropbox and from there installed it but I do 
not know if it is installed.  Following the installation it ended up on 
Finder.  The programme is a peace of software that works with Audasity to 
allow export to different formats.


Eleanor 


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Re: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed

2014-03-29 Thread Eleanor Burke
Oh right thanks and then it is not there this is very strange how come it's in 
a folder and find it then

Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Mar 2014, at 22:23, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 You can find all the applications installed on your system in your 
 Applications folder. You open this folder with Cmd-Shift-a.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 29 Mar 2014, at 22:26, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 I downloaded a programme to my Dropbox and from there installed it but I do 
 not know if it is installed.  Following the installation it ended up on 
 Finder.  The programme is a peace of software that works with Audasity to 
 allow export to different formats.
 
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Re: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed

2014-03-29 Thread Eleanor Burke
okay thanks David why does it behave like that

Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Mar 2014, at 23:33, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 What do you mean that it has ended up on Finder?
 
 Do you mean that it has ended up on the Desktop?
 
 If it has ended up on the Desktop this is probably because the initial
 download installed probably a disk image file dmg  format which has
 temporarily mounted a virtual drive on your desktop.
 
 If this is the case you can run the install from within the disk image by
 pressing command O.
 
 If there is an install program run the program from within the disk image.
 
 If in contrast there are applications, files ending in app you simply need
 to copy all of these manually to the  applications folder and run them from
 there.
 
 After you have done this you can close the disk image with command Q and
 then press command E on the dmg file on the desktop to eject this virtual
 drive.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
 Sent: 29 March 2014 21:27
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: How Do I Tell IF A Programme Has Installed
 
 I downloaded a programme to my Dropbox and from there installed it but I do 
 not know if it is installed.  Following the installation it ended up on 
 Finder.  The programme is a peace of software that works with Audasity to 
 allow export to different formats.
 
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Re: Hi all, Skype and vo problem and info from apple accessiblity

2014-03-28 Thread Eleanor Burke

I have Skype on my phone and it works just fine.
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Hi all, Skype and vo problem and info from apple accessiblity


Ah I uninstalled it from my phone as I don't use it as much. Well, let's 
hope they can reach out to the microsoft team.


Good luck.
On Mar 28, 2014, at 2:36 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com 
wrote:



Hi,

I am referring to Skype for osx version 6.15 which was just released a 
day or 2 ago.


Matthew


On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

Hmm. as of yesterday I was not having any accessibility issues regarding 
skype and contact focus issues.  I'll have to play a bit more with this. 
Are you talking about ios or osx as I don't remember any discussions 
about this.


Take care.
On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:51 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com 
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Hi all,

For some time now I have been having some problems with vo and Skype 
and  having what appear to be focus problems.  Here is the response 
from apple accessibility and the message I sent to them regarding this. 
It gives a better idea of what I am experience.  Was wondering if 
anyone here see this.


Matthew


Hello,

Thank you for your email. As you described the issue, it sounds like 
the contact list may not be releasing VoiceOver focus correctly when 
you leave that window. We recommend that you contact Skype and provide 
them with this feedback so they can verify they are using the 
accessibility frameworks correctly.


We will also forward this on to our Developer Relations group to see if 
they can reach out to the developers at Skype and assist them.


Apple Accessibility

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Skype Call from Mac

2014-03-27 Thread Eleanor Burke

Once I am on a contact what do I do next to initate the call?
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Re: Unmuting Voice Over on the Mac

2014-03-27 Thread Eleanor Burke
three finger double tap

Sent from my iPhone

 On 27 Mar 2014, at 21:34, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 
 I was playing with the track pad trying to get through several hundred 
 messages and I muted VO.  I don't know how I did it, so I don't know how to 
 undo it.  So, how do I unmute VO on the MacBook Air?
 
 
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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Anne.  The experience I have been having, is that a common one for VO 
users?  Mission Control popping up out of the blue when I am executing 
another command?
- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings



Hello Eleanor,

Mission Control is a way of managing open applications and organising them 
into Spaces. Since VoiceOver does not take account of Spaces (groups of 
applications used together for a given task), Mission Control is useless 
to us. So this is why I disable Mission Control on my computer.


Cheers,

Anne


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fair point but do I not need mission control


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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Eleanor Burke

What is the function of the dash board?
- Original Message - 
From: Ben J Bloomgren bbloomg...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings


Is there a way to disable the mission control without disabling the 
dashboard.


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On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:15, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

Hello Eleanor,

Mission Control is a way of managing open applications and organising 
them into Spaces. Since VoiceOver does not take account of Spaces (groups 
of applications used together for a given task), Mission Control is 
useless to us. So this is why I disable Mission Control on my computer.


Cheers,

Anne


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fair point but do I not need mission control


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Re: Track Pad Settings

2014-03-26 Thread Eleanor Burke

What does a widget manager do?
- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings


The Dashboard is the widget manager. I leave the Dashboard short cut 
enabled.


Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:21, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:



What is the function of the dash board?
- Original Message - From: Ben J Bloomgren 
bbloomg...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings


Is there a way to disable the mission control without disabling the 
dashboard.


Ben J. Bloomgren

Manager
CLG Productions

Http://www.clgproductions.com

704-256-0067

Hours: Nonday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern accept 
holidays.



On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:15, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

Hello Eleanor,

Mission Control is a way of managing open applications and organising 
them into Spaces. Since VoiceOver does not take account of Spaces 
(groups of applications used together for a given task), Mission 
Control is useless to us. So this is why I disable Mission Control on 
my computer.


Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 09:04, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
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fair point but do I not need mission control


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Re: Skype on the Mac

2014-03-25 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Isaac, I was told in the Apple store that I would have to sign in to 
Skype every time on the Mac Book Air.  They said this was a security thing. 
Is this the case?


Eleanor
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From: isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac


To answer a call  when vo tells you that you have a call and when the 
Skype window comes up then vo right to the accept button and the call will 
start.

On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Margaret margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:


How do you answer a call?

Margaret


Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Mar 2014, at 12:49 am, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

To hang up call just press command shift h.
On Mar 24, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:


speaking of skype on the mac, how do you hang up on a call?
thanks!
Cait

On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Eleanor Burke 
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Thank you for this Sarah.

Eleanor
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac



to learn the basics of skype for mac see this link.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/looking-at-skype-5-for-mac/

95 percent of the concepts will stay the same as skype 6 looks almost 
like skype 5. the only difference will be the grid that's shown. in 
skype 6. the concept will how ever remain the same.


Hth.
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Hello there. If you are logged into it on the mac and then sign into 
it on another device it will sign you out. There should be a 
checkbox or something that says keep me signed  in or something like 
that or remember password.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Eleanor Burke 
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Can I keep logged in to Skype on my Mac?  I have to enter my 
Password every time I wish to use it on the Mac.  How do I use 
Skype on the Mac? Is there a podcast on this?  I know how Skype 
comes up on my iPad Mini and iPhone but it does not seem to come up 
like this on the Mac.

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Mac Error with VO

2014-03-25 Thread Eleanor Burke
As a beginner I am probably making mistakes but sometimes when I hit vo 
shift and m instead of getting menu I get time machine.  What is happening 
and how do I stop this happening?


Eleanor 


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Re: Skype on the Mac

2014-03-25 Thread Eleanor Burke
When did you do it last?  I know there is such a check box in Windows and 
iOS iPhone.  How do you get to that check box please using the keyboard? 
Would you be good enough to try it out for me please?
- Original Message - 
From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac


Actually no, a little bit of misinformation, there is a checkbox on the 
Sign in  screen to remember your password and stuff. Or at least there was 
the last time I did it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:44 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes that is the case you will have to sign in to Skype every time.
On Mar 25, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Hi Isaac, I was told in the Apple store that I would have to sign in to 
Skype every time on the Mac Book Air.  They said this was a security 
thing. Is this the case?


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac


To answer a call  when vo tells you that you have a call and when the 
Skype window comes up then vo right to the accept button and the call 
will start.
On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Margaret margaretebo...@gmail.com 
wrote:


How do you answer a call?

Margaret


Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Mar 2014, at 12:49 am, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

To hang up call just press command shift h.
On Mar 24, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:


speaking of skype on the mac, how do you hang up on a call?
thanks!
Cait

On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Thank you for this Sarah.

Eleanor
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami 
marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac



to learn the basics of skype for mac see this link.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/looking-at-skype-5-for-mac/

95 percent of the concepts will stay the same as skype 6 looks 
almost like skype 5. the only difference will be the grid that's 
shown. in skype 6. the concept will how ever remain the same.


Hth.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Matthew Carello 
mcarell...@comcast.net wrote:


Hello there. If you are logged into it on the mac and then sign 
into it on another device it will sign you out. There should be a 
checkbox or something that says keep me signed  in or something 
like that or remember password.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Can I keep logged in to Skype on my Mac?  I have to enter my 
Password every time I wish to use it on the Mac.  How do I use 
Skype on the Mac? Is there a podcast on this?  I know how Skype 
comes up on my iPad Mini and iPhone but it does not seem to come 
up like this on the Mac.

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Re: Skype on the Mac

2014-03-24 Thread Eleanor Burke

Thank you for this Sarah.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: Skype on the Mac



to learn the basics of skype for mac see this link.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/looking-at-skype-5-for-mac/

95 percent of the concepts will stay the same as skype 6 looks almost like 
skype 5. the only difference will be the grid that's shown. in skype 6. 
the concept will how ever remain the same.


Hth.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Matthew Carello mcarell...@comcast.net 
wrote:


Hello there. If you are logged into it on the mac and then sign into it 
on another device it will sign you out. There should be a checkbox or 
something that says keep me signed  in or something like that or remember 
password.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Can I keep logged in to Skype on my Mac?  I have to enter my Password 
every time I wish to use it on the Mac.  How do I use Skype on the Mac? 
Is there a podcast on this?  I know how Skype comes up on my iPad Mini 
and iPhone but it does not seem to come up like this on the Mac.

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Beginners Question Setting Up Voice Control

2014-03-24 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, I have set up voice control on the Mac, e.g. instruction the Mac to 
close a window by saying 'close ' or 'open e-mails.  All settings have been 
configured correctly but I have been unable to calibrate the microphone as 
this would appear to be something requiring visual assistance.  However, I 
have heard that this calibrating is accessable but how?


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Skype on the Mac

2014-03-23 Thread Eleanor Burke
Can I keep logged in to Skype on my Mac?  I have to enter my Password every 
time I wish to use it on the Mac.  How do I use Skype on the Mac?  Is there 
a podcast on this?  I know how Skype comes up on my iPad Mini and iPhone but 
it does not seem to come up like this on the Mac. 


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Audasity and Sound Flower

2014-03-22 Thread Eleanor Burke
I listened to a podcast on this but I just found it too complicated for my 
simple starter brain.  Has anyone on list recorded using these 2 softwares? 
Maybe there is a single software tht will do the same without having to 
marry up these two.  What I want to be able to do is to record using my own 
voice and at the same time to be able to record voice over too.


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Re: Virtual Mouse Click

2014-03-20 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks David now I am wondering how does one minimise and maximise windows 
using the keyboard

Sent from my iPhone

 On 20 Mar 2014, at 08:23, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 I think the idea of a Mac right click is probably out of place. I think you
 will find that the original Apple Mouse did not have a right mouse button
 but a single click button on the top. The addition of a right button was a
 Windows innovation. This is why there is no such thing as a right click
 within the operating system, but instead control click, as you say brings up
 the context menu.
 
 Having said that if you plug a Windows two button mouse into the modern Mac
 OS the right button will, I believe,  emulate a control click.
 
 From the standpoint of Voiceover however you will not, as far as I am aware
 find anything resembling a right click. Shift VO M  will bring up the
 context menu in the same way as control click.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy
 Sent: 20 March 2014 07:58
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
 
 Vo-shift-space will accomplish a left click. Didn't know about the other 
 one other than it opened a contextual menu but vo-shift-m will do a 
 control click, the mac equivalent to right click.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 19/03/2014 21:46, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 OK but I am thinking in terms of Windows and doing a right or a left
 mouse click or is that not possible on the Mac?
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
 christopher...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:43 PM
 Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
 
 
 Vo-shift-space.
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 19/03/2014 21:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 How do I do a virtual mouse click please on the Mac?
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Screen Capture

2014-03-20 Thread Eleanor Burke

What are the keys to use for a screen capture?
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Re: Minimising Maximising on the Mac

2014-03-20 Thread Eleanor Burke
Yes thanks the last tip is good too as sometimes I don't want to close the 
window that is inactive but I don't want it sitting in the middle of the 
screen either.


What key press do people use to answer a Skype call?  I know you don't use 
Skype David.
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From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:44 AM
Subject: Minimising Maximising on the Mac



As far as I am aware there is no inbuilt OS level Maximisation function in
the Mac OS. This is one of areas the Mac works differently to Windows.

Having said that you can achieve the same affect often within programs. 
This

is often achieved using command F or command shift F.

So in Preview you will find full screen which  by pressing command F and 
in

VLC you can put DVDs into full screen mode by pressing command shift F.

I may have got these commands mixed up but experiment  and you will find 
the

one which works.
So generally in the program you are using you need to look in the View 
Menu
and look to see if there is a full screen option or alternatively there 
may

be a full screen button on the toolbar.
I believe that a similar result can also be achieved by pressing the zoom
button on toolbars in some programs but as I cannot see the screen I 
cannot

confirm that this is the case.

I have heard also of third party apps which provide  a minimisation 
function

but I have no experience of these.

In terms of minimising windows try using command M or alternatively 
command

H to hide a window.

David Griffith




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 20 March 2014 08:39
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click

Thanks David now I am wondering how does one minimise and maximise windows
using the keyboard

Sent from my iPhone


On 20 Mar 2014, at 08:23, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

wrote:


I think the idea of a Mac right click is probably out of place. I think

you

will find that the original Apple Mouse did not have a right mouse button
but a single click button on the top. The addition of a right button was 
a

Windows innovation. This is why there is no such thing as a right click
within the operating system, but instead control click, as you say brings

up

the context menu.

Having said that if you plug a Windows two button mouse into the modern

Mac

OS the right button will, I believe,  emulate a control click.

From the standpoint of Voiceover however you will not, as far as I am

aware

find anything resembling a right click. Shift VO M  will bring up the
context menu in the same way as control click.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy
Sent: 20 March 2014 07:58
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click

Vo-shift-space will accomplish a left click. Didn't know about the other
one other than it opened a contextual menu but vo-shift-m will do a
control click, the mac equivalent to right click.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!


On 19/03/2014 21:46, Eleanor Burke wrote:
OK but I am thinking in terms of Windows and doing a right or a left
mouse click or is that not possible on the Mac?

- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click



Vo-shift-space.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!


On 19/03/2014 21:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:
How do I do a virtual mouse click please on the Mac?
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Emoticons

2014-03-20 Thread Eleanor Burke
Firstly forgive the spelling.  Secondly is it possible to use these on the 
Mac?  i am actually wondering if like the iPhone they are already there and 
just need inserting in to a message or e-mail.


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Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can bring 
up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, headings etc 
there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these just gives me a 
beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want to go back I do not 
know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I 
am back.  Please help!  Thanks.


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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate this 
way with the arrow keys?
- Original Message - 
From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up  arrows 
together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the up-and-down arrows 
to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back aPage, press command 
and the left bracket key together, to go forward, command and the right 
bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that the 
only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow so 10 
presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are no 
headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I can 
bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and want 
to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows machine 
with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: poor results tap tap see

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke

Try another app instead William.
- Original Message - 
From: William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:19 PM
Subject: poor results tap tap see


hi all i note that with tap tap see when one pays for the credits, and a 
tin is canned half the time it is not telling us what is in the said tin 
for example so why pay for credits, when half to hem are wasting away it 
seems, to determine one or two objects?
i am getting the focus beep for the image on my 4s but find it off putting 
that chargeable credits are being used when to me, if you a re charging 
for the service, shouldn't a first time approach be guaranteed?
sighted people know what an object is first time usually without having to 
keep re-examining it

just my thoughts
william


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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through all 
the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
options


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
this way with the arrow keys?

- Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To go.back 
aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go forward, 
command and the right bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that 
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow 
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there are 
no headings in between, in which case it will take me even longer.  I 
can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how many links, 
headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on any of these 
just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another web page and 
want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on a Windows 
machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
I am not making myself clear, I understand how to open a link, what I do not 
understand is that when I operate the rota and it is on links and tells me 
there are 102 links, how I can access these links e.g. by way of a list of 
links.
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From: isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


First when you locate the link you want in to the rotor  first press enter 
then press vo space bar to open the link.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through 
all the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?

- Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
options


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
this way with the arrow keys?
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joshkar...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To 
go.back aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go 
forward, command and the right bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked 
that navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are 
that the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right 
arrow so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if 
there are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even 
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how 
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice 
on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so 
quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please 
help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
Can you tell me how to use the voice over search as it sounds excellent. 
Thank you.
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From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


You can use the voiceover search function and try to find the text that 
the link contains…


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Yes but what I want is to cut time and instead of arrowing down through 
all the links say, I want to ump to link 10 is there a way of doing that?

- Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Lol no problem, no you don't have to use the voice over plus u command, 
you can just use the arrow keys and it will take you through the roter 
options


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Sorry to be stupid here, do you mean after I press vo and u to navagate 
this way with the arrow keys?
- Original Message - From: Josh Gregory 
joshkar...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Hi, for the navigation issue try the left and up, and right and up 
arrows together to get two links, headings, etc. then use the 
up-and-down arrows to navigate through the selected elements. To 
go.back aPage, press command and the left bracket key together, to go 
forward, command and the right bracket together.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked 
that navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are 
that the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right 
arrow so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if 
there are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even 
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how 
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice 
on any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
another web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so 
quick on a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please 
help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke

How do I activate groups mode then? Sounds good to me.
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web


Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you  activate 
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a  single 
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less 
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything  else. 
Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't  like the 
fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to  click a 
link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this  isn't even a 
consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to  move along until I 
find the piece I want, then interact, then go where  I need to go, 
especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then  all I need to do 
is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander  turned on, andhave vo 
functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each  right arrow press gets me 
the next chunk of text.  Simple and  convinient.

hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an 
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked  that 
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are  that the 
only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right  arrow so 10 
presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if  there are no 
headings in between, in which case it will take me even  longer.  I can 
bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me  how many links, 
headings etc there are but pressing enter once or  twice on any of these 
just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to  another web page and want 
to go back I do not know how to do this,  so quick on a Windows machine 
with a 2 key press and I am back.   Please help!  Thanks.


Eleanor
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Re: Beginner's Questions The Web

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke

Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
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From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:

Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move along
until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need
to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow
press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on
any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on
a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Virus Protection on Mac

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
Is anyone using virus protection on the Mac or just leaving it to Apple's 
security.- Original Message - 
From: isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Have you also that about using the quick nav
feature? You can assign commands to quick nag to get to things faster such 
as links headings lists and check boxes and text fields.On Mar 19, 2014, 
at 11:42 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:



Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy 
christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:

Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you activate
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this 
isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move 
along

until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I need
to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right arrow
press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right arrow
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice on
any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick on
a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Virus Protection on Mac

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke

Was it expensive?
- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Virus Protection on Mac


I'm using clamxav. I've been using it now for about 2 years and it found 
some stuff, got rid of it and now my mac runs better, note this only 
happened once but I religiously  try to scan every sunday, no pun 
intended.


Take care.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:44 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:


I am leaving it to apples security at this point.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Is anyone using virus protection on the Mac or just leaving it to 
Apple's security.- Original Message - From: isaac 
isaac.heb...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Have you also that about using the quick nav
feature? You can assign commands to quick nag to get to things faster 
such as links headings lists and check boxes and text fields.On Mar 19, 
2014, at 11:42 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:



Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy 
christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

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On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:
Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you 
activate

groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a single
group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you wish 
to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this 
isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move 
along
until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need 
to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I 
need

to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right 
arrow

press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:


I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked 
that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are 
that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right 
arrow

so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if there
are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me 
how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or twice 
on

any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so quick 
on

a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Re: Virus Protection on Mac

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
On a different note, you have excellent recording, what do you use for 
recording and do you do it on the Mac?
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From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Virus Protection on Mac


No. it was cheap, as in, free.  You can donate though if you can, you 
don't have to, but it might help the dev just a bit.  I love clamxav.


I did a brief overview of the program, going over its features and even 
did a scan. You can adjust it to do a lot. This is a powerful  solution 
running off of the clam AV engine , which is I believe  made for the UNIX 
platform. How ever you can use the GUI as I do.


Here is a link to the demonstration.

http://www.tffppodcast.com/clamxav-antivirus/

Good luck and enjoy. I should have the link to the app in the show notes. 
Any comments and questions can be left on the show notes page.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:



Was it expensive?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Virus Protection on Mac


I'm using clamxav. I've been using it now for about 2 years and it found 
some stuff, got rid of it and now my mac runs better, note this only 
happened once but I religiously  try to scan every sunday, no pun 
intended.


Take care.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:44 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:


I am leaving it to apples security at this point.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Eleanor Burke 
eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:


Is anyone using virus protection on the Mac or just leaving it to 
Apple's security.- Original Message - From: isaac 
isaac.heb...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Have you also that about using the quick nav
feature? You can assign commands to quick nag to get to things faster 
such as links headings lists and check boxes and text fields.On Mar 
19, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:



Ah well I don't have a number pad so culd not do that last thing.
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy 
christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Questions The Web



Sounds good will try this cheers.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 19/03/2014 12:57, Travis Siegel wrote:
Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you 
activate
groups mode.  In groups mode, vo combines web features into a 
single

group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents.  I never use 
anything
else.  Most folks who don't use groups mode do so because they 
don't
like the fact that you need to interact with the groups if you 
wish to
click a link or navigate a table by rows/columns, but for me, this 
isn't
even a consideration, because I find it a whole lot easier to move 
along
until I find the piece I want, then interact, then go where I need 
to
go, especially if I'm just reading a book or something, then all I 
need

to do is press right arrow (I have the numpad commander turned on,
andhave vo functions assigned to the arrow keys) and each right 
arrow

press gets me the next chunk of text.  Simple and convinient.
hth.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:32 AM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

I am having problems accessing links, headings etc on the web in 
an
effecient manner.  Quick Nav is turned on and I have also checked 
that
navagating by single character is checked.  Now my problems are 
that
the only way I am able to navigate a page is by using the right 
arrow
so 10 presses of it will take me to the 10th link, that is if 
there

are no headings in between, in which case it will take me even
longer.  I can bring up the roter with vo and u and this tells me 
how
many links, headings etc there are but pressing enter once or 
twice on
any of these just gives me a beep.  Finally if I move on to 
another
web page and want to go back I do not know how to do this, so 
quick on

a Windows machine with a 2 key press and I am back.  Please help!
Thanks.

Eleanor
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Virtual Mouse Click

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke

How do I do a virtual mouse click please on the Mac?
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Re: Recording on Mac

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke

Very expensive app though Chris.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Recording on Mac


Yes amadeus Pro is a mac app and I bought it from the App Store a few 
weeks ago after both recommendations on this list and my own usage of the 
free trial one can download from the developer's website.

Regards Chris
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On 12 Mar 2014, at 16:08, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:


This app is for the mac.
On Mar 12, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Is this app just for the Mac or for iOS devices generally?  How 
accessable is it?

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Subject: Re: Recording on Mac



I think you can use amadeus pro for recording.
On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Eleanor Burke 
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I am looking for an app which will allow me to record a radio 
programme going out in real time.  On my Windows machine I have Total 
Recorder but do not know if there is something similar for Mac.

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Re: Virtual Mouse Click

2014-03-19 Thread Eleanor Burke
OK but I am thinking in terms of Windows and doing a right or a left mouse 
click or is that not possible on the Mac?


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Vo-shift-space.

Regards Chris

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How do I do a virtual mouse click please on the Mac?
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Radio Volume and VO Volume

2014-03-18 Thread Eleanor Burke
If I am listening to the radio and want to increase the volume, how do I do 
this independent of the voice over volume please? 


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Re: Radio Volume and VO Volume

2014-03-18 Thread Eleanor Burke
I am talking about listening to radio via Safari.  I would be using the BBC 
iPlayer and there will be a volume slider on it so that I would be 
increasing radio volume rather than also increasing voice over volume.
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Subject: Re: Radio Volume and VO Volume


If you’re talking about iTunes Radio, command-up arrow will increase the 
volume, and command-down arrow will decrease it. I’m not sure how to do this 
in any other apps as I haven’t tried them yet. Hth.

Jake
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do this independent of the voice over volume please?

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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there 
anything I need to do with the button?


Eleanor
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to 6 
will move through heading levels 1 to 6!

If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation and a 
button to show info about what key does what!

HTH Colin.
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I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. 
I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the 
VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or 
characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome 
and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed 
thanks to quicknav.


Regards Chris


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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke

How do I use quick nav for words and characters?
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. I 
also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the 
VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or 
characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome 
and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed 
thanks to quicknav.


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On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only 
get

to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the 
voice

over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Brian, I wonder if there are any keyboard commands to control Zoomtext, 
e.g. increasing and decreasing the magnification and exiting Zoomtext.  I 
did resolve the mouse issue by increasing the speed.
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From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext



Hello Eleanor,

Yes, I think this might be a feature request worth posting to the Apple 
Accessibility Team. They can be reached via email at 
accessibil...@apple.com


HTH,
Bryan


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:
for Zoom.  However, one thing I do notice is that as I use reverse 
colours, black background and white text, the mouse is white too, however, 
unless I have the window maxamised, then the white mouse can get lost in 
the area of the screen below a window that is not maxamised.  This however 
is something that Apple could alter I am sure if in accessability they 
provided different colour mouse pointers.


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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke

Excellent thanks Chris.
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


To use the rotor press up-left arrows or up-right arrows together until it 
says words or characters. To navigate simply use the up or down arrow 
keys, not together but individually.


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On 17/03/2014 11:03, Eleanor Burke wrote:

How do I use quick nav for words and characters?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
it one handed thanks to quicknav.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 23:33, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see
what I mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web
elements but these are off by default but can be turned on in
VoiceOver Utility, commanders, quicknav tab.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can
only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial 
and

error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I
open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the
voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
Great Colin, much appreciate that.  Like you I have a button there but will 
leave alone and take other advice given re exploring what the commands do 
with vo hh.
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


Ok Sorry Chris I'm not sure what OS your running but On mine running 
Mountain Kitty there is a button but it is to see what keys are active and 
if needed a option to add new ones!


And Eleanor!
There is need to do anything unless one of the keys are not doing what it 
is supposed too!
But a good way to see the options without messing with the key settings is 
to open VO+HH and arrow down to Quick Nav and go into that menu and all 
the keys are listed and what they do!

HTH Colin
On 17 Mar 2014, at 12:32, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:


There's no button anywhere in this window. You should however be able to 
start keyboard help with vo-k from within a web page. To stop keyboard 
help press escape.


Regards Chris

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On 17/03/2014 11:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there
anything I need to do with the button?

Eleanor
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velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to
6 will move through heading levels 1 to 6!
If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation
and a button to show info about what key does what!
HTH Colin.
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wrote:


I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
it one handed thanks to quicknav.

Regards Chris


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Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-17 Thread Eleanor Burke
thank you Brian unfortunately for me to text does not work in association with 
voice-over this is very disappointing however I shall endeavour to dry it out 
for the 60 day demo

Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 17:47, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes, there are hotkeys for zoomtext mac. Google is your friend. A quick 
 search for keywords “zoomtext mac hotkeys” returned a long list of results, 
 the first of which is a youtube video with a well done audio track describing 
 zoomtext mac hotkeys.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfGub8jhXmg
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Brian, I wonder if there are any keyboard commands to control Zoomtext, 
 e.g. increasing and decreasing the magnification and exiting Zoomtext.  I 
 did resolve the mouse issue by increasing the speed.
 
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Re: Adium as of today

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke

Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated or
pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


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christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then online.
If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
greatly appreciated.
--
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Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my Mac 
and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice over keys 
when I want to do a command like interacting with a table where it requires 
both hands? 


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Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, while I have not tried out Zoomtext at a cost of £375 (not even 
tried the demo) as I now know how to use Zoom on the Mac and would never 
dream of spending that amount of money for Zoom.  However, one thing I do 
notice is that as I use reverse colours, black background and white text, 
the mouse is white too, however, unless I have the window maxamised, then 
the white mouse can get lost in the area of the screen below a window that 
is not maxamised.  This however is something that Apple could alter I am 
sure if in accessability they provided different colour mouse pointers. 


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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke
OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but are 
you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get to know 
when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and error or can 
you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock them. 
Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know. To save 
even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with left-right. 
You then just use arrow keys for navigation.


Regards Chris

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Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open my
Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke

Are you saying I can use quick nav instead of using the locked vo keys?
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys


You can turn quicknav on and off anywhere but especially on web pages 
where navigation is far more logical. Give it a try and you'll see what I 
mean. Quicknam can also provide keys to navigate to various web elements 
but these are off by default but can be turned on in VoiceOver Utility, 
commanders, quicknav tab.


Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:29, Eleanor Burke wrote:

OK now I am not quite following you Chris, I know about quick nav but
are you saying toggle it on and off as and when?  I guess I can only get
to know when I have to have it on and when to turn it off by trial and
error or can you give me a rule of thumb about it?
- Original Message - From: Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys



Whenever you lock the VoiceOver keys they remain so until you unlock
them. Whether this is reset when restarting VoiceOver I do not know.
To save even more keystrokes why not toggle quicknav on and off with
left-right. You then just use arrow keys for navigation.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:18, Eleanor Burke wrote:
Hi All, to clarify, can I simply lock the voice over keys when I open 
my

Mac and keep them locked for the duration? or do I just lock the voice
over keys when I want to do a command like interacting with a table
where it requires both hands?
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Re: Adium as of today

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke
Chris recommended another website for it, presumably they are both the same 
app.
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From: Christopher gilland ch...@clgproductions.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



It's free, and no.

go to:

http://www.adiumx.com

Chris.

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From: Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Is Adium available through the Mac app store?  How much does it cost?
- Original Message - 
From: Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Adium as of today



Adium I use all the time. I have it set up so when a new chat comes in
from a different person, I am alerted. Since I can have up to 5 to 8
conversations going a time. It is important I know who has just updated 
or

pinged me. No other IM does this sort of thing.

It is all configurable and is one of the best IM chats on the market.

Sean


On 16/03/2014 8:35 am, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:



True and yes I probably did. Will have to do some more investigating I
guess. Now I'm not so new to the mac I may just give it another go.

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 08:18, Josh Gregory wrote:

No offense meant but you must've set that up yourself, it doesn't come
like that by default

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Chris Apple boy
christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

How is Adium as of today? The last time I used it it was ok but 
didn't
like the system voice announcing when someone is connected then 
online.

If they're connected then to me they're online or in some other status
other than offline so don't need to know whether they're connected as
well as their actual status. As a result I gave up on it. Any comments
greatly appreciated.
--
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Re: Magnification with Mac

2014-03-16 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Brian, you will be aware that I have looked at the in-built Zoom on my 
Mac.  While it reaches a satisfactory magnification level for me what I have 
found that I need to use a mouse to get around the screen due to the 
magnification.  To this end, I have used an Apple Magic mouse which is a 
bluetooth mouse.  What I have encountered is that the mouse movement is very 
sluggish indeed so unlike using a mouse on my Windows machine with 
Supernova.  Now my question to you is if the student found the same problem 
with the mouse and furthermore with Zoomtext is there a sluggish mouse on 
high magnification?
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From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Hello Eleanor,

On my Mac running OS 10.9.2 I am able to activate the Zoom hotkeys by going 
to System Preferences / Accessibility / Zoom. That same preference pane 
lists the available hotkeys for toggling Zoom and for zooming in and out. 
Are these hotkeys not working on your system?


Bryan

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Hi Brian, I wish to try both forms of magnification but I have asked on a 
few lists about a hot key to put on magnification but nobody has 
responded. I am fairly sure that a key combination on the fly using one of 
the function keys brings it up and increases it, once I try this out I 
will then move to the Zoomtext but as you say a hefty price at £375 
sterling.


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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

2014-03-15 Thread Eleanor Burke

Ah right, thanks for that.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Thuy Mallalieu tmallal...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Eleanor. I usually like to keep that switch set for quick muting on the 
iPad.

Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPad

On 15 Mar 2014, at 12:57, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


Isnt there a physical orientation lock button on the side near the volume 
on the iPad?  There is one on my iPad mini.
- Original Message - From: Thuy Mallalieu 
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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi Brenda. the orientation lock is in the control centre, so you have to 
touch the status bar and do a three finger swipe up and then swipe right 
with one finger past the media player controls, airplane, wifi, 
bluetooth and do not disturb to orientation lock. Hope this helps?

Cheers
Thuy

Sent from my iPhone


On 14 Mar 2014, at 22:21, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

I finally did and could get this right to a certain extent. Thereis 
actually
a way to get the Voice Dream structure back, but on the filesharing 
thing,
that Voice Dream says we can do to restore the database, when we 
reinstall
Voice Dream, I couldnot get to work. Passwords and accounts would not 
come
over. Contacts did. None of my folders did. At any rate, I've got 
something

to work with now.

  I need to know, though, how, now, do we get orientation lock in 
IOS7.1?
I did this to my phone in IOS6, and it has remained set the way I 
wanted it
to be. But nopw, in IOS7.1, I can't seem to do a three finger swipe to 
the
right in App Switcher, to find the orientation lock to keep the thing 
locked

in portrait. Now, it's going everywhere. I turned the reduce Motion
setting on, but stilll need to get this into portrait mode.

Thanks,

Brenda

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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


You will need to restore it using iTunes, or from settings, general, 
reset,
erase and reset, and when that is done and you are setting up the iPad 
by
hand choose ro restore from an iCloud back up on the iPad itself do not 
use

iTunes.
Oh and make sure all iCloud settings you want enabled on the iPhone are
actually enabled and that iCloud is actually turned on on your iPhone 
too.

You can do this by going to settings, and iCloud.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:34 AM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net 
wrote:


Okay, how do you set the iPad from one of your iPhone's backups, say, 
the

latest back up?

Thanks, and not in the cloud, but on my computer, is the latest 
backup.


Take care,

Brenda

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To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


Hi, your best bet for get a transfer of that kind is to use iCloud 
instead
of using iTunes use iCloud and restore your iPad from an iPhone back 
up or

in this case set up the iPad from one of your iPhones back ups.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, meadowlark77 meadowlar...@cox.net 
wrote:


Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for 
example,
let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there 
and I
want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, 
but

the
purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was 
told

that
if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But 
I'm

not
able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not 
transfer
with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not 
transfer

either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?

Take care,

Brenda

mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
- Original Message - From: David Griffith 
d.griff...@btinternet.com

To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini


I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never 
heard

of
this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch
preferences
for each device under iTunes.

You can of course make the preferences identical.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

Hello all,

Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync

Face Book App

2014-03-15 Thread Eleanor Burke

What accessable Face Book App are people using on their Mac?
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Re: Magnification with Mac

2014-03-14 Thread Eleanor Burke
I am now at the Mac but I did do exactly what you say below and I could not 
find an option related to the Zoom.
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


you need to select the zoom feature in the table, stop interacting with the 
table, and then vo arrow right to the various options. You’ll find that lots 
of situations on the Mac act like that, where you select a feature and then 
move past the selection to its options. I’m guessing you’re new to the mac 
and the concept of interacting with objects? Its a bit different from the 
PC/JAWS world.
You need to get into the habit of exploring thoroughly the interface of any 
new window/app/dialog.


On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


I went to system preferences and zoom but there was nothing for me to 
change.  It just said image zoom.  Do I have to go in to the mouse 
settings to put zoom on?

- Original Message - From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com
To: Mac Access iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Turn on magnification with Command+option+8. Once mag is on, Increase and 
decrease magnification with command+option+ equals  sign (=), and minus 
sign (-) respectively.
First, make sure magnification (zoom) is enabled in accessibility options 
in system preferences. There are setting there for how the screen reacts 
to mouse and cursor movement etc.


On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


OK thanks for that but can you tell me how to bring up the magnification 
on Mac, how to increase and decrease it.  Thanks.

- Original Message - From: Haghighi,Amin haghi...@oclc.org
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


I use zoom text on MAC.
I don’t like the one comes with mac.
If I where you I would buy it.
The zoom text on mac the magnification is more clea then  the one comes 
with mac.


On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:



Why then is Zoomtext an option if not better?
- Original Message - From: richie Gardenhire 
richie.gardenh...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is, 
however, a magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of 
magnification every bit as wide as Zoomtext.


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find 
out first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen 
magnifier other than the in-built one that people are using.


Eleanor
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Re: Magnification with Mac

2014-03-14 Thread Eleanor Burke
yes

Sent from my iPhone

 On 14 Mar 2014, at 09:49, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Have you changed your tab key to interact automatically yet?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
 Sent: 14 March 2014 09:13
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
 
 I am now at the Mac but I did do exactly what you say below and I could not 
 find an option related to the Zoom.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com
 To: Mac Access iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
 
 
 you need to select the zoom feature in the table, stop interacting with the 
 table, and then vo arrow right to the various options. You'll find that lots
 
 of situations on the Mac act like that, where you select a feature and then 
 move past the selection to its options. I'm guessing you're new to the mac 
 and the concept of interacting with objects? Its a bit different from the 
 PC/JAWS world.
 You need to get into the habit of exploring thoroughly the interface of any 
 new window/app/dialog.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 I went to system preferences and zoom but there was nothing for me to 
 change.  It just said image zoom.  Do I have to go in to the mouse 
 settings to put zoom on?
 - Original Message - From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com
 To: Mac Access iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
 
 
 Turn on magnification with Command+option+8. Once mag is on, Increase and 
 decrease magnification with command+option+ equals  sign (=), and minus 
 sign (-) respectively.
 First, make sure magnification (zoom) is enabled in accessibility options 
 in system preferences. There are setting there for how the screen reacts 
 to mouse and cursor movement etc.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK thanks for that but can you tell me how to bring up the magnification 
 on Mac, how to increase and decrease it.  Thanks.
 - Original Message - From: Haghighi,Amin haghi...@oclc.org
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
 
 
 I use zoom text on MAC.
 I don't like the one comes with mac.
 If I where you I would buy it.
 The zoom text on mac the magnification is more clea then  the one comes 
 with mac.
 
 On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Why then is Zoomtext an option if not better?
 - Original Message - From: richie Gardenhire 
 richie.gardenh...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 AM
 Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
 
 
 Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is, 
 however, a magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of 
 magnification every bit as wide as Zoomtext.
 
 Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
 
 
 On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 
 Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
 obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find 
 out first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen 
 magnifier other than the in-built one that people are using.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: Magnification with Mac

2014-03-13 Thread Eleanor Burke

Why then is Zoomtext an option if not better?
- Original Message - 
From: richie Gardenhire richie.gardenh...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is,  however, 
a magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of  magnification 
every bit as wide as Zoomtext.


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find  out 
first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen  magnifier 
other than the in-built one that people are using.


Eleanor
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Re: Magnification with Mac

2014-03-13 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi Brian, I wish to try both forms of magnification but I have asked on a 
few lists about a hot key to put on magnification but nobody has responded. 
I am fairly sure that a key combination on the fly using one of the function 
keys brings it up and increases it, once I try this out I will then move to 
the Zoomtext but as you say a hefty price at £375 sterling.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Hello Eleanor and Richie,

Eleanor — I worked with a low-vision student who tried Zoomtext for Mac. The 
student did say they liked Zoomtext’s larger mouse pointer options and that 
Zoomtext did a better job of keeping the cursor in focus, but this student 
decided the extra features provided beyond what comes built into OSX’s Zoom 
functions were not worth the price. YMMV of course, and I’m interested to 
hear your opinion after you’ve tried the demo.


Richie — There is a version of Zoomtext Magnifier for the Mac. Info at this 
link: http://www.aisquared.com/zoomtextmac


HTH,
Bryan

On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:14 AM, richie Gardenhire richie.gardenh...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.

On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
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first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen magnifier 
other than the in-built one that people are using.


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Re: Magnification with Mac

2014-03-13 Thread Eleanor Burke
OK thanks for that but can you tell me how to bring up the magnification on 
Mac, how to increase and decrease it.  Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Haghighi,Amin haghi...@oclc.org

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


I use zoom text on MAC.
I don’t like the one comes with mac.
If I where you I would buy it.
The zoom text on mac the magnification is more clea then  the one comes with 
mac.


On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com 
wrote:



Why then is Zoomtext an option if not better?
- Original Message - From: richie Gardenhire 
richie.gardenh...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac


Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is, 
however, a magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of 
magnification every bit as wide as Zoomtext.


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:

Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find  out 
first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen  magnifier 
other than the in-built one that people are using.


Eleanor
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