Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies & Gentlemen, We Are Back!

[Matthew Carello]

I was wondering that myself. The page is rather odd. I guess Gordon has a lot 
more then a few bugs to work out.
> On May 24, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> You know what is stranger about all this?
> 
> Try just going in a browser to
> 
> http://www.mac-access.net
> 
> and look at what comes up.
> 
> Unless I typed it wrong, but I don't think I did, I get this weird webmail 
> configuration server page.  Now, how bizarre is that!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jimmy Podsim" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies & Gentlemen, We Are Back!
> 
> 
> I have tried both of those I have also tried it with the word leave. None of 
> them seem to work. I do not even get a response from the server.
> 
> Jimmy Podsim.
> FB  http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim  ...
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Goodness, gracious!
>> 
>> OK?  How about this!
>> 
>> Try to unsubscribe by doing:
>> 
>> mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> In the subject, and the body both, type the word
>> unsubscribe
>> 
>> I can't promise that'll work, but it's worth a shot.
>> 
>> If that doesn't work, try:
>> 
>> mac-access-unsubscr...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> Unfortunately, that's all I got.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: App Store Update

[Matthew Carello]

Yes I did not have to read the whole thing either. You will have to hit agree 
twice but much like Chris said you do not have to read the whole thing.
On Sep 29, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> I never read all 36 pages and was still able to agree to the terms. Try a 
> four finger tap towards the bottom of the screen this should jump to the 
> bottom of the window where the buttons are.
> 
> 
> Sent from my laptop
> 
> On 29/09/2014 20:39, Martin G. McCormick wrote:
>>  After upgrading to IOS8, my one remaining drudgery task
>> is the update to the app store. The drudgery part is that
>> 36-page legal masterpiece that one must agree to in order to
>> make the update happen so life can go on and the Earth won't get
>> stuck on it's axis causing the ocean to boil.
>> 
>>  There are 36 pages in the agreement and I am not sure if
>> you must click agree on each one or what. There are the same
>> buttons for each page. There is Cancel, then the text,
>> a link to send the agreement by email, Previous page, Next page
>> and then the Agree button
>>  The design is clever in that you can not just tap "next
>> page" 36 times and you're done. You must alternate between the
>> text and the "next page" button to see the next page.
>>  The strange part was when I got to Page 36 of 36 and
>> read it. I am not sure what one is supposed to do next because
>> nothing changes. You are at the end of the agreement and there
>> are the same buttons. Clicking Agree does nothing except you
>> hear it echoed by the iPad's voice.
>> It's like, What next? There are no complaints or errors but you
>> can't seem to go forward.
>>  I tested the send agreement by email link and that
>> worked just fine so those of you who have already done this, how
>> do you get to the next step? Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Arranging home page on IOS 8

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Paul. Here is what I do. I first take 2 apps i want in a folder and put 
them on the first blank page. This makes it easier to overlap them to create 
folders. if i already have  a folder i move that and an app i want in it to the 
blank page. I then move each app i want into that folder on to the new page one 
at a time and put them in. When done I just move the folder back to the page it 
belongs on and then repeat for any other folders. I hope this helps.
On Sep 28, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> I am having a very frustrating time trying to move all my Apps on my iPhone 
> 5S into sensible folders on home page 1. .
> 
> I currently have folders on 4 columns and 4 rows on page 1. Now there are App 
> Icons on page 2 which I want to move into the appropriate folder on page 1. 
> When I move an App from page 2 onto page 1 it seems to go into row 5 on page 
> 1. If I then press the home key and go to page 1 and double tap and hold any 
> Icon on row 5 I do not get the ability to move that Icon into any of the 
> folders on page 1. In fact I do not get the ability to move Icons on row 5 of 
> page 1 at all. 
> Any ideas? 
> Many Thanks.
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Re: How to download a previously purchased iPhone App

[Matthew Carello]

hello Paul. Go to updates in the app store on the phone. Double tap on 
purchases. Then double tap on not on this IPhone. There should be a list of 
apps you got that are not there. Just double tap on install.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> I am trying to download an iPhone App which I had purchased some time ago and 
> subsequently deleted from itunes. I have now moved to IOS 8 where this App 
> will now work again but cannot download it. 
> 
> If I go to the itunes App store the download button for the App is dimmed. If 
> I go to the purchased tab in iTunes I can see the App but there is no button 
> to re-download it. 
> 
> I recall that there is a keystroke which will undim a dimed control, which 
> would then let me redo the download. 
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated. 
> Many thanks. 
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

[Matthew Carello]

your just pressing the home button three times in a row. This turns on and off 
VO as opposed to muting speech. When you turn off VO all Vo commands are off. 
Muting speech will still allow the commands to to work just no speech.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> How do I do a tripple click without sighted assistance please?
> - Original Message - From: "barbara jones" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation
> 
> 
> Did you do a triple click with the home button to toggle it on or off? It’s a 
> 3 finger double tap to toggle speech on and off and one more thing, have you 
> checked the volume? Sometimes for whatever reason the volume on mine gets 
> turned down without me touching that button.
> Barbara
> 
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
>> it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
>> assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
>> hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I 
>> could hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I 
>> came home vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and 
>> why would it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple 
>> tap but that did nothing.
>> 
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Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. It is a double three finger tap to turn speech back on. Not a 
two finger triple tap, grin.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Hi All, I have just restored my iPod Touch 5th generation in order to sell 
> it.  I was in the Apple store and when no speech on it, I asked the man 
> assisting me to turn on voice over.  He said he did but I said I could not 
> hear it.  He went in again to General and Accessability and this time I could 
> hear it.  I put the iPod Touch in my pocket and went home.  When I came home 
> vo was not talking.  Any ideas how I put voice over on please and why would 
> it have turned off like that.  I did the usual 2 finger tripple tap but that 
> did nothing.
> 
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Re: Using the Apple store app on my iPhone to make a genius barappointment

[Matthew Carello]

That is cool that you got it to work. Things like that tend to happen at times 
though . Technical gremlins lol.
On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> That’s an interesting/ingenious idea, will bear it in mind. I say that 
> because the issue is now resolved. Several attempts produced the same 
> experience, but for some reason my last attempt [doing exactly as I had 
> before] made the onscreen keyboard available again. No idea why it wasn’t 
> showing up all those other times; just one of those IT oddities! -
> 
> Andy
> On 5 Sep 2014, at 17:24, Matthew Carello  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andy. Have you thought of typing the password in a note or something 
>> and copying it into the password field? This should in theory work. Hope 
>> this helps,
>> 
>> Matt 
>> On Sep 5, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>>> I know that, when it comes to regular Braille, but think about it when it 
>>> comes to entering a password for the iPhone. The dot 6 will get seen as the 
>>> first character of the password which of course is not what I want -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 5 Sep 2014, at 16:05, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> dot 6 before the capital letter.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Collins" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Using the Apple store app on my iPhone to make a genius 
>>>> barappointment
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t have one. However, the suggestion got me to try using a Braille 
>>>> display; the problem there was that I couldn’t figure out how to enter 
>>>> capitals and numbers in Braille that would display in the password edit 
>>>> field the way I needed them to be. I did try using computer numbers, but 
>>>> as the display just fills up the cells as the phone does in order to keep 
>>>> the password invisible, I couldn’t check if what I entered worked or not. 
>>>> Well, actually, it didn’t as I kept getting an error message regarding my 
>>>> username and password -
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> On 5 Sep 2014, at 13:10, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> guess you could try using a Bluetooth keyboard
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5 Sep 2014, at 12:58, Andy Collins  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I followed the list advice and now have the Apple store app on my phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When trying to make a Genius bar appointment, I was able to select a day 
>>>>>> and time, but when it came to clicking the reserve button, a screen came 
>>>>>> up asking for my Apple ID. Although VO said text edit for the password 
>>>>>> field, there was no onscreen keyboard for me to use to enter it. How do 
>>>>>> folks get around that one? -
>>>>>> 
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Re: Using the Apple store app on my iPhone to make a genius barappointment

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Andy. Have you thought of typing the password in a note or something and 
copying it into the password field? This should in theory work. Hope this helps,

Matt 
On Sep 5, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> I know that, when it comes to regular Braille, but think about it when it 
> comes to entering a password for the iPhone. The dot 6 will get seen as the 
> first character of the password which of course is not what I want -
> 
> Andy
> On 5 Sep 2014, at 16:05, Eleanor Martha Burke  
> wrote:
> 
>> dot 6 before the capital letter.
>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Collins" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: Using the Apple store app on my iPhone to make a genius 
>> barappointment
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t have one. However, the suggestion got me to try using a Braille 
>> display; the problem there was that I couldn’t figure out how to enter 
>> capitals and numbers in Braille that would display in the password edit 
>> field the way I needed them to be. I did try using computer numbers, but as 
>> the display just fills up the cells as the phone does in order to keep the 
>> password invisible, I couldn’t check if what I entered worked or not. Well, 
>> actually, it didn’t as I kept getting an error message regarding my username 
>> and password -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 5 Sep 2014, at 13:10, Eleanor Martha Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> guess you could try using a Bluetooth keyboard
>>> 
 On 5 Sep 2014, at 12:58, Andy Collins  wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 I followed the list advice and now have the Apple store app on my phone.
 
 When trying to make a Genius bar appointment, I was able to select a day 
 and time, but when it came to clicking the reserve button, a screen came 
 up asking for my Apple ID. Although VO said text edit for the password 
 field, there was no onscreen keyboard for me to use to enter it. How do 
 folks get around that one? -
 
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Re: iPhone has water in the headphone jack

[Matthew Carello]

If anything like that happens again it helps to put the item in a bag of rice 
overnight. That should help remove any moisture.
On Aug 29, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:

> Well, my daughter just texted me saying that someone fixed the phone.  He 
> doesn't really know what he did but I suspect that the phone just finally 
> dried out.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Glenn  wrote:
>> 
>> What part does not work?
>> Does the audio work without a headphone?
>> I would try bluetooth until it dries out.
>> In this humid weather, it may take a while to dry out.
>> If it does not get too warm, they could put it in a food dehydrator.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Juaanita Marttin" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 6:31 PM
>> Subject: iPhone has water in the headphone jack
>> 
>> 
>> My daughter’s friend got water in the earphone jack in her iPhone 5S.  They 
>> cleaned it out with a Q tip but the phone shows the earbuds still plugged 
>> in.  They also shot conpressed air into the phone.  They googled all kinds 
>> of things to try but nothing has worked so far.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Voice dream reader synching

[Matthew Carello]

I can do that. I am a member of it too. Thanks for the offer.
On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> No it is not, but if you want I can make feedback on the apple vis entry, as 
> one of the devs are a member of that forum. 
> On Aug 15, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> I do not believe that is possible at this time. Maybe when and if they add 
>> ICloud support to it. For now though again i do not believe it is possible.
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Re: Voice dream reader synching

[Matthew Carello]

I do not believe that is possible at this time. Maybe when and if they add 
ICloud support to it. For now though again i do not believe it is possible.
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Re: Question about clean my mac 2

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Thanks to all who answered. It is appreciated. I do like the app a lot.
On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> NOpe. you can check what you want and want in the table tha'ts 1 vo cmd t key 
> stroke to the right, but I don't often worry about it. I did a podcast at 
> http://tffppodcast.com/feeds/tffp which is the feed and the main site if it 
> is not on the feed is http://tffppodcast.com/listen just do a search for 
> clean my mac and you should  come up with a inital review wherein I discover 
> and show now to do this.  
> On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:37 AM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> Thank you. So I don’t have to worry about getting rid of anything it finds? 
>> it knows what to get rid of? Thanks again.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>>> Hit enter to start the scan. Vo all the way to the right to see what will 
>>> be cleaned, and hit enter to start the clean. You really don't need the 
>>> unlabeled buttons.
>>> 
>>> Take care. 
>>> On Aug 10, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>>>> Hello all. Does anyone know of any good tutorials for setting up clean my 
>>>> mac 2? There are a lot of unlabeled buttons on it. I just don’t want to 
>>>> erase anything I should not. Also for some reason there is a lot of space 
>>>> gone on my mac. I am not sure what is causing this. my drop box only has 
>>>> just over 4gb of stuff in it. I keep most of my big files on an external 
>>>> drive. I don’t have a lot of apps on it and also empty my recycle bin 
>>>> regularly. thanks for any help,
>>>> 
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Re: Question about clean my mac 2

[Matthew Carello]

Thank you. So I don’t have to worry about getting rid of anything it finds? it 
knows what to get rid of? Thanks again.


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> cleaned, and hit enter to start the clean. You really don't need the 
> unlabeled buttons.
> 
> Take care. 
> On Aug 10, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> Hello all. Does anyone know of any good tutorials for setting up clean my 
>> mac 2? There are a lot of unlabeled buttons on it. I just don’t want to 
>> erase anything I should not. Also for some reason there is a lot of space 
>> gone on my mac. I am not sure what is causing this. my drop box only has 
>> just over 4gb of stuff in it. I keep most of my big files on an external 
>> drive. I don’t have a lot of apps on it and also empty my recycle bin 
>> regularly. thanks for any help,
>> 
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Question about clean my mac 2

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. Does anyone know of any good tutorials for setting up clean my mac 
2? There are a lot of unlabeled buttons on it. I just don’t want to erase 
anything I should not. Also for some reason there is a lot of space gone on my 
mac. I am not sure what is causing this. my drop box only has just over 4gb of 
stuff in it. I keep most of my big files on an external drive. I don’t have a 
lot of apps on it and also empty my recycle bin regularly. thanks for any help,

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Re: Skype

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. Did you look in the log in items tab? in users and groups That 
is where all the apps that start up show up. 
On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke  
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> Hi Colin and All, while I managed to wort the contacts to on-line contacts, I 
> am still not sorting how to stop Skype starting up at Login.  Colin did tell 
> me to go to System Preferences, Users and Groups, but I can't find where it 
> says Skype is starting up automatically.  I think I need a little more 
> detailled help on this one please.
> 
> Eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "Colin Matthews" 
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> To: "mac access" 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:26 AM
> Subject: Re: On-Line Skype Contacts
> 
> 
> Hi Eleanor!
> OK if your on your contacts list just stop interacting with it and arrow left 
> and you will find all the choices like all, Skype, on my Mac and online in 
> some kind of order! *smile*
> Just VO+space on the Online option and you’ll be set!
> Colin
> 
> On 3 Aug 2014, at 23:27, Eleanor Martha Burke  
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>> I would like to set my On-Line Skype contacts rather than all my contacts in 
>> Skype on the Mac.  How do I do this please?
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Re: Fusion 6

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Ok that has never happened to me. Good to learn something new. I thank you for 
that.
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Re: Fusion 6

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Hello David. Just to stick to the mac side of this when I go from the vm to the 
mac side I just hit command  tab. This does make it necessary to turn off 
voiceover while in the VM but it works for me. I would be curious to know if 
there is a way to do this without having to turn off voiceover.
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> I decided to utilise my daughter's sight to help me download and purchase 
> Fusion 6. However there is a important difficulty
> 
> In Fusion 5 I was able to shift focus in and out of a  to a full screen 
> window by simply pressing control command and enter.
> 
> When I started Fusion  6 I was in full screen windows but this key 
> combination no longer worked for getting windows out of full screen and focus 
> bak to the Mac. According to web documentation you should be able to return 
> to a window by pressing control command and F but this most definitely does 
> not work.
> I was therefore trapped in Windows and un able to return  to my Mac. The only 
> way I could get focus bak in the Mac was to shut down windows. I was only 
> then able to regain Voiceover control.
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> How are Fusion 6 users managing to return to their Mac from full screen 
> Windows?
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Re: Notification Centre

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There is a table in notification preferences where you can choose what goes 
there and what doesn’t. Also what type of notification it shows.
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wrote:

> do I have two go through each application Matthew are is there a single 
> setting four instance of the moment they are just sitting on my desktop the 
> notifications and they haven't gone away
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 23:45, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> Hello Eleanor. In notification preferences you can set what type of alert 
>> you want for each one. you want to set it to banners. This will allow them 
>> to show in the top right corner then go away. You can still get to them 
>> through notification center though.
>>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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>>> Hi, I want to turn off the notifications appearing on my finder.  I have 
>>> looked in notifications and could find notification settings relating to 
>>> different apps but I did not find a way of stopping notifications showing 
>>> up on the finder.
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Re: Notification Centre

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. In notification preferences you can set what type of alert you 
want for each one. you want to set it to banners. This will allow them to show 
in the top right corner then go away. You can still get to them through 
notification center though.
On Aug 1, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:

> Hi, I want to turn off the notifications appearing on my finder.  I have 
> looked in notifications and could find notification settings relating to 
> different apps but I did not find a way of stopping notifications showing up 
> on the finder.
> 
> Eleanor 
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Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Matthew Carello]

Go to system preferences. Then go to users and groups. Make sure the log in is 
set to your main account. There should be something there also to tell it not 
to require a log in password. Hope this helps.
On Aug 1, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Henry Miller  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Matthew
> 
> It appears that when the Mavericks update had completed, I heard a prompt to
> create a new account-which I duly obliged.  Unfortunatley, when I reloaded
> the Mac and went into this account there were no previous VO settings and
> the voice had just defaulted to Daniel.  My Sighted friend, deleted the new
> account and all was restored to the old account on Mountain lion with all
> the associated VO and voice settings-it was a bit of a headache!. 
> 
> When I now load the Mac Voice over does not load automatically and the first
> screen is a log in screen.  
> 
> Please could you tell me how to ensure VO loads at start up and how can I
> have the first screen to show my desk top similar to Mountain Lion without
> having to log in using a password?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
> Sent: 31 July 2014 21:57
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
> 
> That is great. What was going on with it?
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Henry Miller 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Matthew
>> 
>> Many thanks for your advice.  Yes! I am aware of this short cut, but under
>> the voices there was just one voice which is Daniel.   I am now pleased to
>> say that I have now sorted the problem out with some sighted help.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
>> Sent: 31 July 2014 15:40
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
>> 
>> Hello Henry. For future reference you should be able to hit control
> options
>> command and your left or right arrow until it says voice. you can then hit
>> control option command and down arrow until it says the voice you want and
>> there you go. You can also change a couple other things there too.
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Isaac
>>> 
>>> Many many thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: 31 July 2014 13:03
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
>>> 
>>> Yes I do if you go to the voiceover utility with vo f 8. 
>>> Then go to speech with command 3. 
>>> Then vo right arrow to the voices tab and then tab to the default voice
>> popup menu and then press vo space bar to open the menu. 
>>> Alex should be in there.  
>>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Isaac
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for your advice.  Do you know where I can find the Voice
> Alex
>> within Mavericks?
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> 
>>>> Henry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>>>> Sent: 31 July 2014 11:26
>>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>>> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you're
>> wifi network?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have
>> lost
>>>>> my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only
>> Daniel
>>>>> available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my
>> hearing
>>>>> loss.  
>>&

Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Matthew Carello]

That is great. What was going on with it?
On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Henry Miller  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Matthew
> 
> Many thanks for your advice.  Yes! I am aware of this short cut, but under
> the voices there was just one voice which is Daniel.   I am now pleased to
> say that I have now sorted the problem out with some sighted help.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
> Sent: 31 July 2014 15:40
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
> 
> Hello Henry. For future reference you should be able to hit control options
> command and your left or right arrow until it says voice. you can then hit
> control option command and down arrow until it says the voice you want and
> there you go. You can also change a couple other things there too.
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Henry Miller 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Isaac
>> 
>> Many many thanks.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>> Sent: 31 July 2014 13:03
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
>> 
>> Yes I do if you go to the voiceover utility with vo f 8. 
>> Then go to speech with command 3. 
>> Then vo right arrow to the voices tab and then tab to the default voice
> popup menu and then press vo space bar to open the menu. 
>> Alex should be in there.  
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Henry Miller 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Isaac
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for your advice.  Do you know where I can find the Voice Alex
> within Mavericks?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: 31 July 2014 11:26
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
>>> 
>>> Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you're
> wifi network?
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller 
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>> 
>>>> I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have
> lost
>>>> my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only
> Daniel
>>>> available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my
> hearing
>>>> loss.  
>>>> 
>>>> Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet connection
> and
>>>> Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> 
>>>> Henry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Henry. For future reference you should be able to hit control options 
command and your left or right arrow until it says voice. you can then hit 
control option command and down arrow until it says the voice you want and 
there you go. You can also change a couple other things there too.
On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Henry Miller  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Isaac
> 
> Many many thanks.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of isaac.heb...@gmail.com
> Sent: 31 July 2014 13:03
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
> 
> Yes I do if you go to the voiceover utility with vo f 8. 
> Then go to speech with command 3. 
> Then vo right arrow to the voices tab and then tab to the default voice popup 
> menu and then press vo space bar to open the menu. 
> Alex should be in there.  
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Henry Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Isaac
>> 
>> Many thanks for your advice.  Do you know where I can find the Voice Alex 
>> within Mavericks?
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of 
>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>> Sent: 31 July 2014 11:26
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
>> 
>> Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you’re wifi 
>> network?
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> 
>>> I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have lost
>>> my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only Daniel
>>> available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my hearing
>>> loss.  
>>> 
>>> Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet connection and
>>> Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OS X 10.10 [Yosemite] Public Beta

[Matthew Carello]

Hello there. www.applevis.com has reported the NDA disclosure is in effect. 
being it is still beta software it should not and can not be discussed grin.
On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy  
wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> As many of you will know by now, Apple recently released a public beta for 
> the first time in over a decade. This is a beta version of the upcoming OS X 
> 10.10 [Yosemite] release. I just wanted to clarify a point. If Apple has 
> stipulated that all discussion of the beta be in their own forum, then 
> discussion of the beta on this forum is strictly prohibited. If, however, 
> they have made no such stipulation, then you may by all means compare notes 
> on list.
> 
> At this point we’re not sure of Apple’s stance on this, so we’ll have to 
> check. But please exercise discretion and comply with any NDA agreement which 
> Apple stipulated when you downloaded the beta. Thank you for your cooperation.
> 
> Warm regards
> 
> Lynne
> 
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Re: Mac Remote Access.

[Matthew Carello]

hello Eleanor and all. First of all i apologize for taking time to get back to 
you. Comcast didn’t give me my emails from yesterday until now. I do apologize 
yes I did mean system preferences. That is odd that it did not work. Did you 
choose the checkbox before it? Hopefully id did not remove the wrong one. Also 
as david mentioned an app like clean my mac 2 will help remove apps totally. 
On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Hi Matthew and All, I tried your instructions below.  I found System 
> Preferences so I expect that was what you were referring to when you 
> mentioned Preferences below.  I did get to users and to Login. When I looked 
> at the items in the table strangely enough Team Viewer iis unchecked so I 
> ccould not uncheck it.  I tried removing it by pressing on the delete button 
> while Team Viewer was highlighted but that did not do anything.  I have also 
> deleted Bit Torrent Sync from my laptop and that is even listed in the 
> login!!!
> 
> Any further help greatly received.
> 
> Eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "Matthew Carello" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Mac Remote Access.
> 
> 
> Hello Eleanor. To remove items from the log in go into preferences from the 
> apple menu. Go to the area that says users and groups. In there select the 
> log in tab. You can remove items from log in there.
> On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Not Jim but I did install team viewer on my Mac so I am wondering if perhaps 
>> I should remove it if it is not very user friendly with voice over 
>> alternatively as it is starting up when my Mac starts is there a check box I 
>> can take to prevent it coming up at start-up
>> 
>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>> 
>>> On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:30, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim
>>> 
>>> Thanks, thought that’s probably how you were doing it.  We have had 
>>> occasion to use TeamView in a commercial environment recently and when I 
>>> tried, as expected, no screen-reader worked on either platform.  Not at all 
>>> surprising as the output is essentially a dynamic image.
>>> 
>>> Kindest regards
>>> 
>>> <--- Gordon Smith --->
>>> 
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>>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 18:10, Jim Noseworthy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gordon:
>>> 
>>> I use either Skype or a Speakerphone.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith
>>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:33 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Mac Remote Access.
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim
>>> 
>>> Just a quick question for you.  Are you receiving VoiceOver via TeamView, 
>>> or have you set up a Skype feed to the unattended/remote machine which is 
>>> piping the audio back to you that way?  Or is there another method?  Just 
>>> out of interest
>>> 
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Re: iOS Question - Accessing A Telephone Contact

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. One thing you can do is use the search feature. From the home 
screen do a three finger swipe down. In the search field type the persons name 
and then flick right  through the list of results. The more of the persons name 
you type the less hits you should get. Also as stated before you can use siri 
and just say call so and so. You can also tell siri people are and say 
something like mother,sister, best friend. Just an idea.  
On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Hi All, when I want to contact someone on my iPhone, I use the Table Index at 
> least to move to the given alphabetic letter of their name.  However, once 
> there of about 17 people whose name begins with the letter L I then have to 
> go through each until I locate the one I want which might be the 17th on a 
> list of 20!!!  On my old Nokia phone using Talks I could get to a contact 
> even faster than this.  Is there any faster method I might use? 
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Re: Mac Remote Access.

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. To remove items from the log in go into preferences from the 
apple menu. Go to the area that says users and groups. In there select the log 
in tab. You can remove items from log in there.
On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 wrote:

> Not Jim but I did install team viewer on my Mac so I am wondering if perhaps 
> I should remove it if it is not very user friendly with voice over 
> alternatively as it is starting up when my Mac starts is there a check box I 
> can take to prevent it coming up at start-up
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:30, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jim
>> 
>> Thanks, thought that’s probably how you were doing it.  We have had occasion 
>> to use TeamView in a commercial environment recently and when I tried, as 
>> expected, no screen-reader worked on either platform.  Not at all surprising 
>> as the output is essentially a dynamic image.
>> 
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>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 18:10, Jim Noseworthy 
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>> Gordon:
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>> I use either Skype or a Speakerphone.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:33 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Mac Remote Access.
>> 
>> Hi Jim
>> 
>> Just a quick question for you.  Are you receiving VoiceOver via TeamView, or 
>> have you set up a Skype feed to the unattended/remote machine which is 
>> piping the audio back to you that way?  Or is there another method?  Just 
>> out of interest
>> 
>> Kindest regards
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>> Plus I.T Help & Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired 
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>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:55, Jim Noseworthy 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi Folks:
>> 
>> I am currently using TeamViewer to provide remote access to a Mac; however, 
>> I am having problems transmitting VO commands.  Can anyone suggest a better 
>> option?
>> 
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Re: iTunes has no windows

[Matthew Carello]

hello Paul. I just tested something. In the window menu it says option command 
1. I set it so i had the same thing you did. iTunes has no windows. I hit 
command option 1 and it said iTunes checked and it put me back in the normal 
window. Hope this helps.
On Jul 16, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> I am running the latest level of Mac OS 10.9.4 and the latest level of 
> iTunes. I frequently use command+tab to cycle round my windows and I 
> frequently hear "iTunes has no windows". This has only started happening 
> after updating to Mac OS 10.9.4. If I quit iTunes and then restart iTunes the 
> problem goes away briefly. If I stay in the iTunes window iTunes works fine 
> but usually when I tab away to a different window and then back to iTunes I 
> often hear "iTunes has no windows". 
> 
> Do others encounter this problem and if so is there a work around? 
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
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Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air

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Hello Eleanor. here is an article from apple on how to migrate using mavericks. 
It shows how to do it several ways I think I hope this helps.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5872
On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 wrote:

> I am still not clear from your wristbands if all my voice-over setting back 
> up also when you say about the disk being formatted do I have to format my 
> external hard drive on a Mac currently it has some Windows files on it such 
> as Word documents
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:48, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.  To back up your mac, go to sysrem prefs, then to time machine. Now 
>> choose your disk if it is formatted  properly, then  follow the prompts. I 
>> normally just have it back up everything then taylor it later to my needs.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to back up 
>>> my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo settings also. 
>>> Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, would that be 
>>> sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite drive.  At present I am 
>>> more concerned with backing up my vo settings rather than having a lot of 
>>> data on the Mac.
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Re: audio tutorials for protools with VO?

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Sorry about that. I thought I remembered seeing that posted there a lot sooner 
than that. My apologies.
On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> those tutorials are for a past version of ProTools that is no longer 
> available, or at least is not easily found. I don’t think the same level of 
> accessibility exists in the most recent versions - they broke a lot of it.
> 
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> Hello there. www.applevis.com has a few great podcasts on how to use pro 
>> tools. you can either search for it in the search area or go to the podcasts 
>> link. You can browse by category or just go through the list of podcasts. 
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:07 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> hey listers,
>>> since i got my novation mini controller i’m very anxious to have a good 
>>> play with protools.
>>> First of all, does it have any level of accessibility with VO?
>>> if this is the case and i can use it some how are there any audio tutorials 
>>> on using this magnificent program. i am a beginner so would need to start 
>>> from the ground up. i’m going to try protools 10.
>>> any help would be much appreciated.
>>> thanks
>>> 
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Re: audio tutorials for protools with VO?

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Hello there. www.applevis.com has a few great podcasts on how to use pro tools. 
you can either search for it in the search area or go to the podcasts link. You 
can browse by category or just go through the list of podcasts. 
On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:07 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

> hey listers,
> since i got my novation mini controller i’m very anxious to have a good play 
> with protools.
> First of all, does it have any level of accessibility with VO?
> if this is the case and i can use it some how are there any audio tutorials 
> on using this magnificent program. i am a beginner so would need to start 
> from the ground up. i’m going to try protools 10.
> any help would be much appreciated.
> thanks
> 
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Re: Keep On Trucking'

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hello there. I do apologize I must have miss an email. i would like to stay on 
the list. Thanks. no special settings.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy  
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> Hello everybody
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> At this point it is a little difficult to know where to start with individual 
> responses. However, I shall respond to all of you who have taken the time to 
> respond to my request. This is excellent – and what is just as good is that 
> you all, absolutely unanimously, have expressed a wish to remain on list.
> 
> Thank you very much for this. Believe me, it is a appreciated by both Gordon 
> and myself.
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> I am currently in the process of compiling two databases for him; one on the 
> PC and one on his BrailleNote Apex using KeyBase.
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> Just one more small request for now. Would anybody who requires special 
> settings such as digest please let us know? Otherwise we will assume that 
> you’re happy with standard settings.
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> Oh yes, and finally, so far I haven’t seen any opinions regarding the list’s 
> name. But I haven’t had the time as yet to thoroughly go through all mail. If 
> you have an opinion, or a suggestion regarding anything we could do better, 
> please feel free to let us know.
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Re: how to copy text messages from iPhone to Mac

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Ok I apologize for misunderstanding. That is not possible at this time. I 
believe I remember hearing that Yosemite the new OS coming out this fall should 
have ability to send and receive normal SMS messages on the mac. Right now it 
can just deal with I messages.
On Jun 22, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
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> Mathew,
> I may not have made myself clear but what I’d like to do is transfer my sms 
> messages from the iPhone to the mac, not copy text.
> Take care,
> 
> Lyn, Canelle & Helios
> On 22 Jun 2014, at 15:19, matthew stubbs  wrote:
> 
>> lyn if you  do  the   copy  gesture with  3 fingers 4 times quickly  will  
>> copy the  last fraze to  the  iPhone’s clipboard then  just  go  to notes on 
>>  the iPhone  and past in  a  empty note  and  it  should  sink to the mac
>> On 22 Jun 2014, at 12:47, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Can't you see your text message in iMessage or are you referring to 
>>> messages sent to you not composed on an iPhone?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" 
>>> 
>>> To: "mac access" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:39 PM
>>> Subject: how to copy text messages from iPhone to Mac
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Can anyone tell me if there is a way to copy text messages from the iPhone 
 to the mac?  If so, what is the procedure and what are the necessary apps 
 to install?
 Thanks for your help and have a good one.
 
 Lyn, Canelle & helios
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Re: how to copy text messages from iPhone to Mac

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There is an app called type2phone. You can control your IDevice with the mac. I 
believe you can copy text from the device to the mac using the clipboard. 
www.applevis.com has good information on the app.
On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
 wrote:

>> yes I am talking about sms messages, not iMessages.
>> On 22 Jun 2014, at 13:47, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>  wrote:
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>>> Can't you see your text message in iMessage or are you referring to 
>>> messages sent to you not composed on an iPhone?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" 
>>> 
>>> To: "mac access" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:39 PM
>>> Subject: how to copy text messages from iPhone to Mac
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Can anyone tell me if there is a way to copy text messages from the iPhone 
 to the mac?  If so, what is the procedure and what are the necessary apps 
 to install?
 Thanks for your help and have a good one.
 
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Re: External hard disk question

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It is the same as in any folder on the mac. Command shift N .Hope this helps.
On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Juaanita Marttin  wrote:

> Okay.  How do I create a folder on the external disk drive?
> 
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> I don’t believe you should need to worry about those files on there. That is 
>> the route directory for the drive. You can make folders there. If you think 
>> you might want to use those files at a later date you can always make a 
>> folder there and put them in it for now. It will not be a big one. 
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Re: External hard disk question

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I don’t believe you should need to worry about those files on there. That is 
the route directory for the drive. You can make folders there. If you think you 
might want to use those files at a later date you can always make a folder 
there and put them in it for now. It will not be a big one. 
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> Okay.  I see things like executable files and installers but where do you 
> copy files to?

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Re: External hard disk question

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hello there. you should just have to plug it in. It should see it and label it 
as a drive on your desktop where the main mac drive is. You can then open it 
and create folders in there and copy whatever you want to it. it should be 
already formatted if not just send another email to the list and I am sure 
someone can tell you how to do this. You may also have to go into preferences 
by hitting command and the comma from the desktop. Go into general in the 
toolbar  and then check show external drives on desktop if it is not. Hope this 
helps. 
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> I just got an external hard disk for my Mac Book Air.  I would like to put 
> all my mp3’s on it instead of DropBox.  Eventually, I’d like to store some 
> pictures from our iDevices on it too.  Can I make folders for these tasks?  
> If so, how?
> This is a Seagate SL drive.  It didn’t come with any software and and 
> instructions just say :click to do this or that.
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Re: Can't open DropBox

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Hello there. What you can also do is go into the home folder with command shift 
h an create an alias for the drop box folder. You can then copy that to and 
move it to the desktop. It is just another option instead of going through 
home. Hope this helps.  
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> I downloaded DropBox yesterday and added files to it today.  It shows up in 
> the applications list but when I try to open it, VO just says DropBox has no 
> windows.  I also got an email saying that DB had been added to my computer.  
> So how do I open the app?
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Re: Bootcamp

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Is that there. The last time I looked up there it was no longer on it.  
On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Richie Gardenhire  
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> Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a
> Mac, using Fusion.  (Www.blindcooltek.com.)
> 
> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
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>> 
>> Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac,  it means that you can run
>> Windows within the Mac session itself.
>> 
>> I googled Windows Fusion for Mac  and came up with the following page which
>> should answer most of your questions.
>> 
>> http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark
>> Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Bootcamp
>> 
>> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
>> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
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>> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
>> 
>> Orin
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 
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>>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these
>> days?
>>> regards
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Re: What Is Fusion?

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Hello there. My macbook air has 8 gigs of ram. I am pretty sure the vm is only 
using 2 of it. It is the default amount i think.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:50 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> How nuch ram you have?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 7 Jun 2014, at 15:40, Matthew Carello  wrote:
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>> Hello there. Fusion costs 59.99. USD  I have it set up on my macbook air 
>> running win 7 and I love it. It took me a bit to get it configured correctly 
>> but the process was not painful at all. You get a demo for about a month i 
>> think. I am not sure exactly but think that is about it.
>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:01 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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>>> Excellent thank you for that explanation.  How much does it cost?
>>> - Original Message - From: "richie Gardenhire" 
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>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:27 AM
>>> Subject: What Is Fusion?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Somebody asked about Fusion a while ago, and there's a good chance he/ she 
>>>> got an answer before I encountered the message.  But just in case  no 
>>>> answer was given, Fusion is a program by which Windows can be  installed 
>>>> on a Mac without sighted assistance, and allows for  switching on the fly 
>>>> from the Mac OS to Windows.  HTH.
>>>> 
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Re: What Is Fusion?

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Hello there. Fusion costs 59.99. USD  I have it set up on my macbook air 
running win 7 and I love it. It took me a bit to get it configured correctly 
but the process was not painful at all. You get a demo for about a month i 
think. I am not sure exactly but think that is about it.
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> - Original Message - From: "richie Gardenhire" 
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> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:27 AM
> Subject: What Is Fusion?
> 
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>> Somebody asked about Fusion a while ago, and there's a good chance he/ she 
>> got an answer before I encountered the message.  But just in case  no answer 
>> was given, Fusion is a program by which Windows can be  installed on a Mac 
>> without sighted assistance, and allows for  switching on the fly from the 
>> Mac OS to Windows.  HTH.
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Interesting thing I learned about extras menu.

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I was playing around with the extras menu. You know how you have to 
do something special to get the drop box menu or say the audio switcher app to 
work? Well I tried something else and it worked. I believe it is something 
different anyway lol. I am running a macbook air and the latest Mavericks  I 
went into the extras menu and hit voiceover and  clicked the touch   pad and it 
took me out of it. Now this is where it gets interesting. I went back into it 
and hit  the voiceover keys and space bar and it made it’s usual sound then I 
Hit voiceover keys and clicked the touch pad again and this time it opened the 
menus. For both drop box and audio switcher. Just something I thought was kind 
of neat.
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Re: Grocery list apps

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Hello Aleeha. One thing I do is create a txt file and put it in drop box. I 
have drop box on the phone and open the file there. I suppose it would not be 
hard to either check the item as you get it or just erase it and when you get 
down to no items you know you are done. Just an idea.
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Re: voice dream tip on epub

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Hello Ian and all. After the play pause button is navigation. You can down and 
up swipe through that. One of the options should be chapters. Set it to that 
then flick back left to the play pause button and swipe up to go back and down 
to go forward.
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>   Dear listers
> I understand you can move between chapters in voice dream reader when reading 
> an epub document.
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> I can't find how to do this in the app. 
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> Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Blind square

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Yes I use it also. I also use an extended battery case which seems to help a 
lot. It seems to be very accurate of course if there is nothing blocking the 
gps. Though surprisingly it works well in the middle of downtown chicago. I 
guess it is because it uses foursquare? Also can it be used with the seeing eye 
gps as a secondary gps?
On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Bill,
> 
> I use BlindSquare and love it. It updates me on where I am and tells me about 
> nearby intersections. I use it when walking and on buses. It uses quite a bit 
> of battery power and you have to remove it from the app switcher to stop it 
> but it runs beautifully in the background so you can use another GPS app to 
> get turn-by-turn instructions at the same time.
> 
> Cheers,
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> On 3 Jun 2014, at 04:24, Bill Deatherage  wrote:
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>> Sent from my iPad hello,
>> Is anyone on the list used blind square. How easy is it to use. And what was 
>> your overall impression of it thanks very much Bill Deatherage
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Re: finding credit card information

[Matthew Carello]

Hi Bill. Go into iTunes and remove the old phone from your account. Also do 
this in I cloud. If it is set to back up from there it may be sinking your 
information with it. That should help.
On Jun 1, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Bill Deatherage  wrote:

> Hello, we found the credit card information and that is my wife's credit card 
> information. One thing is interesting though the foursquare app we've deleted 
> it and will only bring it back up it still comes up in my name. Also there 
> are some of the music on the phone is in her name is her music and some of it 
> is in my music of stuff that I downloaded quite interesting situation forgot 
> to take it back out tomorrow and see what they can do to get it straightened 
> out
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Glenn  wrote:
>> 
>> I wondered too why the guy at the store didn't just restore it first.
>> I guess that can still be done, and the phone number can be entered again.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Matthew Carello" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: finding credit card information
>> 
>> 
>> It sounds like his phone was not removed from his iTunes account. The one he 
>> gave to his wife. I believe the process that should have been taken was to 
>> remove it from his account and restore the phone to original status. Also 
>> remove it from find my IPhone if he uses that. Then his wife could have set 
>> it up as a  new iPhone and put her information in there and it would have 
>> just put her things on it and not his. Just a thought.
>>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Glenn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> Try bringing up iTunes on the phone, and change the card information 
>>> there.
>>> Perhaps you can change the name of the phone with the phone's iTunes app.
>>> Glenn
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bill Deatherage" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: finding credit card information
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hello, and thanks for the information. When I set up my the iPhone I 
>>> didn't
>>> use a computer I did everything from the iPhone itself. Again thank you in
>>> any further tips will be appreciated
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Glenn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bill,
>>>> Plug the phone into the computer you used with it previously, and open
>>>> iTunes, and in the menus, maybe tools, tell it to not associate the 
>>>> device
>>>> with this computer.
>>>> Before you do that, you can rename the device in iTunes to say your 
>>>> wife's
>>>> name.
>>>> HTH.
>>>> Glenn
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Bill Deatherage" 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:23 PM
>>>> Subject: finding credit card information
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> something else I forgot is, where do you go to check what credit card
>>>> information is in the phone?  and how can we get my information off the
>>>> phone with out doing anything to her information?
>>>> again, Thank you for the information.  I really appreciate the help I 
>>>> get.
>>>> Bill Deatherage
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Re: finding credit card information

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It sounds like his phone was not removed from his iTunes account. The one he 
gave to his wife. I believe the process that should have been taken was to 
remove it from his account and restore the phone to original status. Also 
remove it from find my IPhone if he uses that. Then his wife could have set it 
up as a  new iPhone and put her information in there and it would have just put 
her things on it and not his. Just a thought. 
On May 31, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> Bill,
> Try bringing up iTunes on the phone, and change the card information there.
> Perhaps you can change the name of the phone with the phone's iTunes app.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill Deatherage" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: finding credit card information
> 
> 
> hello, and thanks for the information. When I set up my the iPhone I didn't 
> use a computer I did everything from the iPhone itself. Again thank you in 
> any further tips will be appreciated
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 31, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Glenn  wrote:
>> 
>> Bill,
>> Plug the phone into the computer you used with it previously, and open
>> iTunes, and in the menus, maybe tools, tell it to not associate the device
>> with this computer.
>> Before you do that, you can rename the device in iTunes to say your wife's
>> name.
>> HTH.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bill Deatherage" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:23 PM
>> Subject: finding credit card information
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> something else I forgot is, where do you go to check what credit card
>> information is in the phone?  and how can we get my information off the
>> phone with out doing anything to her information?
>> again, Thank you for the information.  I really appreciate the help I get.
>> Bill Deatherage
>> 
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Re: Giving meaningful titles to photos

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That is odd. It has always worked for me. I guess the iPhone gremlins were off 
those days, lol. 
On May 22, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I don't rely on that method any longer as there is a nasty labeles issue bug 
> I thought was fixed since ios5 when the feature was first introduced.
> 
> Basically the label reflects everyware and it cannot be gotten rid of. I have 
> since forgottn the bug numer tha I submitted to apple 3 years ago aregarding 
> this issue.
> On May 22, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
> 
>> Hello there. If you 2 finger double tap and hold for a few seconds you 
>> should hear it make a noise and when done you can rename the file. It will 
>> only show it on the IDevice but it will show it. Hope this helps.
>> On May 22, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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>>> Hello, 
>>> I have used iTunes to move some photos from my iMac to my iPhone. Some of 
>>> these photos had file names which reflect the photo content but on the 
>>> iPhone they seem to have titles specifying the date they were taken. Is 
>>> there a way to give these photos meaningful names? 
>>> Many thanks. 
>>> 
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Re: Giving meaningful titles to photos

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Hello there. If you 2 finger double tap and hold for a few seconds you should 
hear it make a noise and when done you can rename the file. It will only show 
it on the IDevice but it will show it. Hope this helps.
On May 22, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> I have used iTunes to move some photos from my iMac to my iPhone. Some of 
> these photos had file names which reflect the photo content but on the iPhone 
> they seem to have titles specifying the date they were taken. Is there a way 
> to give these photos meaningful names? 
> Many thanks. 
> 
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

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It is shift control option f11 to toggle screen curtain on and off.
On May 10, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> how do I activate the Mac screen curtain
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 May 2014, at 15:27, Bryan Jones  wrote:
>> 
>> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
>> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no 
>> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds 
>> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as 
>>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still 
>>> being 
>>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the 
>>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>>> Glenn
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Re: Be ware of the Tune-in update.

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I was saying how good it was. It is very easy to control on the mac. 
On May 7, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> What's wrong with Radium?  Works fine here, or was that kind of your point. 
> Sorry, am just a little confused.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Tim Emmons" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Be ware of the Tune-in update.
> 
> 
>> Looks like Radium more and more on this end, Lol. I hate they broke it. 
>> Maybe they'll get it fixed but I think I'll use Radium more and more, Lol.
>> On May 7, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> 'm not surprised. Tune in seems to brake things more then they fix. Looks 
>>> like it's time to discuss this on applevis, again. Tune in will probably 
>>> have this fixed in about 4 or so months. Not hat's not an exaduration.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>>> 
 Greetings y'all,
 
 Not sure whether this is applicable to the free version, but today's 
 upgrade to TuneInRadio Pro 6.0 succeeded in rendering this app completely 
 unusable on my 5S running IOS 7.1.1.  It will open and play the last 
 station that I had on, but I can not play any other stations. I tried 
 selecting from my list of favorites and browsing them with the same result 
 (or lack there of).  The pass-through (doubleTapHold gesture) does not 
 appear to expose a menu.  If there is a way to play a different station 
 i've not yet discovered it.  I haven't tried reinstalling TuneIn because I 
 don't want to trash my favorites.  If others are having more success with 
 version 6, that will be my next step.
 
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Re: Be ware of the Tune-in update.

[Matthew Carello]

I love how you don’t even have to go to the window to do much with Radium. The 
key commands are so awesome. This is for the mac version grin.
On May 7, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Tim, I really agree with you about Radium. I also have a Mac, and I enjoy the 
> fact that I have my favorites on my Mac, iPad, and my iPhone. Radium is a 
> great app, and they really do pay attention to accessibility related feedback.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> Radium is another radio app made by Catpig Studios. it's a paid app for the 
>> iPhone that you can also get for the Mac  (a paid app there as well but your 
>> stations can sync across) that does online radio, as well as Sirius Xm and 
>> other subscription services. They're really good about adding stations and 
>> paying attention to their user base as far as accessibility with their app 
>> goes. I love OOTunes, but the developer hasn't updated it in a while, so not 
>> sure what's up there but I'm liking Radum more and more because I can use it 
>> on both my desktop and my phone and all my favorites are right there. Not 
>> sure if you use a mac or not but the phone app is nice Take a look. Hope 
>> that helps. 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim, what is Radium? I use Tune In almost every day, so I'm sad to see that 
>>> I can't use the latest update.
>>> Laurel
 On May 7, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
 
 Looks like Radium more and more on this end, Lol. I hate they broke it. 
 Maybe they'll get it fixed but I think I'll use Radium more and more, Lol. 
> On May 7, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> 'm not surprised. Tune in seems to brake things more then they fix. Looks 
> like it's time to discuss this on applevis, again. Tune in will probably 
> have this fixed in about 4 or so months. Not hat's not an exaduration.
> 
> Take care.
>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings y'all,
>> 
>> Not sure whether this is applicable to the free version, but today's 
>> upgrade to TuneInRadio Pro 6.0 succeeded in rendering this app 
>> completely unusable on my 5S running IOS 7.1.1.  It will open and play 
>> the last station that I had on, but I can not play any other stations.  
>> I tried selecting from my list of favorites and browsing them with the 
>> same result (or lack there of).  The pass-through (doubleTapHold 
>> gesture) does not appear to expose a menu.  If there is a way to play a 
>> different station i've not yet discovered it.  I haven't tried 
>> reinstalling TuneIn because I don't want to trash my favorites.  If 
>> others are having more success with version 6, that will be my next step.
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
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Re: ditching adium, need app recommendations for Facebook chatting

[Matthew Carello]

Hello there. If you use Skype you can also use it for Facebook chat. It also 
can be used for MSN. You sign into Skype first then sign out and sign into MSN. 
You can then merge those and then sign out and into Facebook and merge those. 
Then when you are done with that you should be able to sign into all of them 
when signing into Skype. I have mine set to just show online contacts and it 
shows all online contacts.
On May 4, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have been using the Adium messenger in order to do Facebook chatting for 
> the last several months. I'm not satisfied with it though and I want to find 
> a different app to connect to my facebook on my mac so that I can chat with 
> it. I have 2 facebook accounts, one is my primary account and the 2nd is one 
> that I use to connect with people from other countries online to practice 
> languages, for obvious reasons, I have a 2nd account for that so that my 
> name/identifiable information is not presented to people I've never met face 
> to face. So, I already use facebook with skype, and that works quite well, 
> but I use it with my primary facebook account, and last time I checked, I 
> can't connect 2 separate facebook accounts to the same skype account. If 
> somebody's found a way to do it, let me know, but so far I haven't.
> So, what other chatting apps are accessible with voiceover on the mac and can 
> be used with facebook?
> Thanks,
> Laurel
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Re: prizmo

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Yes. Also when you set it to mute it will vibrate. It will not vibrate when 
turning mute back off though. 
On May 3, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> Judy,
> There is a switch above the volume up button, and it should be flicked 
> toward the screen to be unmuted.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: prizmo
> 
> 
> I thought I did that, it kept saying left or right a bit or away.  Could 
> feel the phone vibrate but no other noise as such so how do you unmute it as 
> I thought it was unmuted as I am running voiceover. Judy
> On 3 May 2014, at 14:25, Glenn  wrote:
> 
>> Judy,
>> In Prysmo, you first swipe to "quick capture" and double-tap the screen.
>> Then you swipe until you get to "take picture button".
>> Then make sure you are about 8 to 12 inches above the text, and double-tap
>> the screen.
>> This is the only problem with Prysmo, you have to double-tap the screen.
>> But the good thing is that it does not instantly take a picture, it will
>> give a series of increasing tones and when it gets to a certain pitch, it
>> snaps a picture of the text, so you have a moment to steady your camera.
>> You should have it unmuted to hear the tones.
>> I usually have both elbows on the table, and hold the phone with both 
>> hands
>> to keep it steady.
>> HTH.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>> 
>> 
>> I don't use prismo, in fact I don't use any ocr apps on ios as of yet, but
>> can you not tell it to take a picture of the documetn once ocr is on in 
>> the
>> app and see if the camera works?
>> 
>> Take care.c
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 19:35, Glenn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Judy,
>>> The camera will tell you when you are pointing at a face.
>>> Glenn
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am totally blind so would not know if the camera had worked or not.
>>> Judy
 On 2 May 2014, at 22:25, Juanita Martin 
 wrote:
 
 You could check out the camera by taking a selfie
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 2, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
> 
> I am using an iPhone and the OCR text orientation  is on.  I am
> wondering
> if the camera is alright its a second hand phone and have had a few
> problems with it.  Judy
>> On 2 May 2014, at 14:19, Juanita Martin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you're using it on the IPhone, make sure that text orientation is 
>> on
>> under OCR.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Judy Pryor 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I cannot get Prizmo to recognise any text.  A friend downloaded it 
>>> for
>>> me and took a photo and it was blank. I tried to day but no luck.
>>> Are
>>> there settings in Prizmo and camera that should be checked or
>>> unchecked.  Can anyone give me advice on how to use Prizmo correctly.
>>> Many thanks
>>> Judy
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Re: prizmo

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You could always take a picture and either share it with Facebook, twitter or 
send it as a message to someone to see how it came out? I do this all the time 
when I take pictures of my guide dog or our cats. It works well. Matt 
On May 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

> I am totally blind so would not know if the camera had worked or not.
> Judy
> On 2 May 2014, at 22:25, Juanita Martin  wrote:
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>> You could check out the camera by taking a selfie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using an iPhone and the OCR text orientation  is on.  I am wondering 
>>> if the camera is alright its a second hand phone and have had a few 
>>> problems with it.  Judy 
 On 2 May 2014, at 14:19, Juanita Martin  wrote:
 
 If you're using it on the IPhone, make sure that text orientation is on 
 under OCR.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> wrote:
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> I cannot get Prizmo to recognise any text.  A friend downloaded it for me 
> and took a photo and it was blank. I tried to day but no luck.   Are 
> there settings in Prizmo and camera that should be checked or unchecked.  
> Can anyone give me advice on how to use Prizmo correctly.
> Many thanks
> Judy  
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Re: Type2Go was siri

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When you want to pair the phone with the mac you have to have typ2phone open. 
You go into bluetooth settings and pair the phone. You can use the up and down 
arrows to make selections if quick NAV is turned on. There are also some 
commands you can set up to make it easier to use. I have to look up how to do 
that again though. It is in the custom menu or something like that. I think I 
learned how to use it from applevis.com but it has been a while since I looked 
there.
On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> I did but will try again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Juanita Martin
> Sent: 26 April 2014 14:40
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Type2Go was siri
> 
> Make sure that blue tooth is on under system preferences.  Also  make sure
> it is connected under blue tooth under settings on the phone.  Turn Vo off
> on the Mac and 
> turn Quick nav on or off on the keyboard just to make sure the app is
> working.  To click on something, you press the up and down arrows together
> on the keyboard.  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I have Type 2 go on my Mac.  I seem to be having problems getting it to
> work.  I paired my phone to it but it keeps disconnecting.I am not sure how
> to use the AP. Can you only use it for typing, can you navigate round the
> iPhone screen and select things.   Judy  
>>> On 26 Apr 2014, at 00:25, Juaanita Marttin 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have a Mac, you can purchase the Type2phone app and use it to
> enter text into your phone.  It is about $5 so it's much more cost effective
> than an external keyboard.
>>> 
 On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
 
 thanks for your help will try tomorrow if I can get some help putting in
> the password.  Am finding typing on iPhone hard, think I need an external
> keyboard.
 Judy
> On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:42, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> First we will reset you're network settings. Here is how we are going
> to do it. First we will go to settings general reset and then choose reset
> network to reset the network settings. Now we are going to reconnect you're
> phone to the wifi network. To do this first go to settings general wifi and
> then select you're wifi network. Next after selecting the network if there
> is a password you have to enter enter it here. After entering the password
> then double tap join and then you're phone will be connected to you're
> network.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
>> I have Type 2 go on my Mac.  I seem to be having problems getting it
> to work.  I paired my phone to it but it keeps disconnecting.I am not sure
> how to use the AP. Can you only use it for typing, can you navigate round
> the iPhone screen and select things.   Judy  
>> On 26 Apr 2014, at 00:25, Juaanita Marttin 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you have a Mac, you can purchase the Type2phone app and use it to
> enter text into your phone.  It is about $5 so it's much more cost effective
> than an external keyboard.
>>> 
 On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
 
 thanks for your help will try tomorrow if I can get some help putting in
> the password.  Am finding typing on iPhone hard, think I need an external
> keyboard.
 Judy
> On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:42, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> First we will reset you're network settings. Here is how we are going
> to do it. First we will go to settings general reset and then choose reset
> network to reset the network settings. Now we are going to reconnect you're
> phone to the wifi network. To do this first go to settings general wifi and
> then select you're wifi network. Next after selecting the network if there
> is a password you have to enter enter it here. After entering the password
> then double tap join and then you're phone will be connected to you're
> network.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
>> 
>> the cell data is turned on.  the data roaming and hotspots are turned
> off. EE said something about resetting but would have to put in the wifi
> settings again. Will need help there as am very new to using an iPhone.
> Judy   
>>> On 25 Apr 2014, at 21:42, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried turning on cell data?
 On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Judy Pryor
>  wrote:
 
 if I turn wifi off Siri does not seem to work on my EE server.  I
> want to be able to use Siri when I am away from home.  
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Typing on IPHone

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Hello Judy. Here is something that might help with typing. If you do a two 
finger rotar turn clockwise to typing down flick to touch typing you can slide 
your finger across the keyboard display to the letter you want and as soon as 
you lift your finger it will put that character in. Also there is a neat 
feature if you know how to write letters or numbers. In the rotar settings in 
settings under accessibility then voiceover you can add handwriting to the 
rotar and when you use that you can just literally write the character you want 
to use. Let me know if you need a deeper explanation I just wanted to let you 
know these are two options that might help. There is also an app called fleksy  
happy typing. 
On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

> thanks for your help will try tomorrow if I can get some help putting in the 
> password.  Am finding typing on iPhone hard, think I need an external 
> keyboard.
> Judy
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Re: mac focusing issues under 10.9

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That happens to me at times also. I will hit vo m and it will say apple menu 
but not go there. What I usually do is hit escape or go to the dock and bak 
again and it will help it sometimes. Also having quick NaV on will affect it. 
Just keep trying and it will eventually work lol.
On Apr 19, 2014, at 4:10 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> hi all on my mac when i am on the desktop under 10.9.2 
> When i am on my desktop and i click a file it isn’t working and it is like my 
> focus is not not he desktop does that make sense?
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Re: Voice dream and zip files

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Hello all. When opening Bookshare books in voice dream reader go to the add 
button and double tap it. Double tap where it says bookshare. Find the book you 
want with the search field or however you like. Have it downloaded and when it 
is done it will say so. You can then go back to the main folder or home folder 
and open the book you want. As far as zipped books like someone said just place 
them in a drop box folder and use the same steps as I said for Bookshare of 
course double tap drop box instead. What I did was just create a folder for IOS 
and put stuff in there. The process ends the same with it saying it is loaded.
On Apr 18, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I'm not william, at least last i checked. Hehahaah. Ok. I'm not funny either. 
>  I do have a question though.
> 
> Will this cause voice dream to unzip the book in question? Also, will the 
> same procedure be used to extract bookshare books? i might need to use 
> bookshare when it comes time to start my masters degree in about a year.
> 
> Take care to all.
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Arthur Barney  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi William, drop the zip file into Dropbox, and grab it from there in Voice 
>> dream.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:54 PM, William Lomas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all
>>> 
>>> i note that with voice dream reader when i click on a text-only zip file on 
>>> the iphone and choose open in voicedream, even after refresh it doesn't 
>>> show up in the list of books in my library?
>>> trying to do a talking newspaper from tnauk
>>> can anyone please help?
>>> Will
>>> 
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Question about the jawbone jam box and using it with 2 devices.

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Hello all. I use the Jawbone jam box with my IPhone and IPad. It seems no 
matter what I do it always tries to connect to the last device I used it with. 
Is there anyway without turning off bluetooth , because I use a bt keyboard, to 
not have it connect automatically without having the device forget the jam box 
every time I stop using it? Thanks for any help.

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Re: Voice Dream and Drop Box

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Good question. I would just give it a try and see what happens.
On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:02 PM, William Lomas  wrote:

> What if audio only daisy?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 19:49, Matthew Carello  wrote:
>> 
>> yes you copy that. If i read the help for voice dream right though it might 
>> just open up the text in it. If it is just text then you can navigate it in 
>> the now playing window. The controls are well labeled though with great help 
>> on how to use it.
>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 12:42 PM, William Lomas  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello so do i copy the zipf lie of a daisy book to dropbox?
>>> re your previous message, how would i go down to a level 2 heading?
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:56, Matthew Carello  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello there. First you go into settings of voice dream and then right 
>>>> flick to drop box and double tap. You enable it by double tapping where it 
>>>> says to. You will then put your drop box user name and password into 
>>>> there. It will then say something like successfully connected. From there 
>>>> you can go back to the home screen and when you double tap add your first 
>>>> choice should be drop box. When you double tap there find the folder where 
>>>> the book lies and enter it with double tap. Find the book and double tap 
>>>> it. It will say loading and when it hits 100 percent just wait it will say 
>>>> when it is done. Double tap the ok button and go back to the home screen 
>>>> and double tap where the book is in the main list of books. You will then 
>>>> be on the now reading screen and be able to listen. Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Matt 
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 4:31 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>> Many thanks to those who responded to my initial question. 
>>>>> I now have a folder of a daisy audio book in my drop box folder, but 
>>>>> stupid me cannot work out how to get it from there into voice dream.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone kindly supply me with step by step?
>>>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream and Drop Box

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yes you copy that. If i read the help for voice dream right though it might 
just open up the text in it. If it is just text then you can navigate it in the 
now playing window. The controls are well labeled though with great help on how 
to use it.
On Apr 10, 2014, at 12:42 PM, William Lomas  wrote:

> hello so do i copy the zipf lie of a daisy book to dropbox?
> re your previous message, how would i go down to a level 2 heading?
> 
> On 10 Apr 2014, at 14:56, Matthew Carello  wrote:
> 
>> Hello there. First you go into settings of voice dream and then right flick 
>> to drop box and double tap. You enable it by double tapping where it says 
>> to. You will then put your drop box user name and password into there. It 
>> will then say something like successfully connected. From there you can go 
>> back to the home screen and when you double tap add your first choice should 
>> be drop box. When you double tap there find the folder where the book lies 
>> and enter it with double tap. Find the book and double tap it. It will say 
>> loading and when it hits 100 percent just wait it will say when it is done. 
>> Double tap the ok button and go back to the home screen and double tap where 
>> the book is in the main list of books. You will then be on the now reading 
>> screen and be able to listen. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Matt 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 4:31 AM, Ian Harrison 
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>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> Many thanks to those who responded to my initial question. 
>>> I now have a folder of a daisy audio book in my drop box folder, but stupid 
>>> me cannot work out how to get it from there into voice dream.
>>> 
>>> Can someone kindly supply me with step by step?
>>> 
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Re: Voice dream reader navigation questions

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Hello william. Next to the play button should be navigation. You can switch 
that to whatever you want. where it says play if you listen it will say flick 
up to rewind and flick down to fast forward. it will do this by the increments 
you set in navigation.
On Apr 10, 2014, at 8:40 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> hi all
> 
> in voice dream reader, i note that you can't easily navigate daisy text-only, 
> is that right?
> i wanted an easy solution to read tnauk titles on my iphone and figured i 
> could just jump between all sections of the paper, and levels.
> i assume the html version is better for this, but how then, would one 
> navigate an audio daisy book easily in voice dream reader?
> regards and many thanks for your responses
> William.
> 
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Re: Voice Dream and Drop Box

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Hello there. First you go into settings of voice dream and then right flick to 
drop box and double tap. You enable it by double tapping where it says to. You 
will then put your drop box user name and password into there. It will then say 
something like successfully connected. From there you can go back to the home 
screen and when you double tap add your first choice should be drop box. When 
you double tap there find the folder where the book lies and enter it with 
double tap. Find the book and double tap it. It will say loading and when it 
hits 100 percent just wait it will say when it is done. Double tap the ok 
button and go back to the home screen and double tap where the book is in the 
main list of books. You will then be on the now reading screen and be able to 
listen. Hope this helps.
 
Matt 
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>   
> Hi listers,
> Many thanks to those who responded to my initial question. 
> I now have a folder of a daisy audio book in my drop box folder, but stupid 
> me cannot work out how to get it from there into voice dream.
> 
> Can someone kindly supply me with step by step?
> 
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Re: Downloading purchased audiobooks

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If your responding to Mary Beth’s post she said Audible. That is a different 
service then iTunes grin. They would not show up there. I would imagine that 
you would have to download them from audible. Also the same thing goes for text 
tones in ITunes. You can not redownload those either. I would imagine that with 
tones and audio books purchased from ITunes it would be best to back them up 
somewhere and keep them as safe as you could.
On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:57 AM, George Cham  wrote:

> Well, if they can be, why does it not show up under my purchases? 
> 
> According to I tunes, audio books, can not be downloaded again. 
> 
> George 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:59 pm, "Marybeth Metzger"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Audio books purchased from audible.com can be redownloaded.
>> 
>> Mary Beth Metzger 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:37 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Downloading purchased audiobooks
>> 
>> I did a Google search on downloading purchased audio books, and the article
>> says, that once you download the book, it can not be downloaded again. 
>> 
>> That's what the rep told me from I tunes store. 
>> 
>> George 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:18 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Strange. I thought that the purchased items were for apps, books and music
>> as well as movies and tv shows. Is there documentation tha thou know of
>> where it states that you cannot redownload audio books bought from iTunes?
>> I'm curious now. 
>>> 
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Question about bluetooth and macbook airs

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hello all. I am getting this error saying that my macbook air is not a 
supported device for my IPhone 5s running the latest IOS. I did a google search 
today and found information about this and possible fixes one of which did not 
work and the other I am hesitant on trying because you have to delete things 
that i am not sure would be a good thing. Has anyone had this issue and found a 
work around? I want to do this so I can use type to phone for it.
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Re: Skype on the Mac

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Hello there. If you are logged into it on the mac and then sign into it on 
another device it will sign you out. There should be a checkbox or something 
that says keep me signed  in or something like that or remember password. 
On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Can I keep logged in to Skype on my Mac?  I have to enter my Password every 
> time I wish to use it on the Mac.  How do I use Skype on the Mac?  Is there a 
> podcast on this?  I know how Skype comes up on my iPad Mini and iPhone but it 
> does not seem to come up like this on the Mac. 
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Re: I can't get my purchases to transfer from my iPhone to my iPadMini

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I think she just needs to download the voices. It does not automatically 
download them. She would go through the steps as if purchasing them and if she 
already owns them it will let her download them.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> Brenda,
> Have you authorized it on your computer?
> Also, you can only have five IOS devices authorized per account.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "meadowlark77" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:26 AM
> Subject: Re: I can't get my purchases to transfer from my iPhone to my 
> iPadMini
> 
> 
> I did that. That's what's weird. I could download the app, but it just did
> not transfer all the voices that I purchased and so on.
> 
>Glenn, what about accounts and so on?
> 
> Take care and thanks,
> 
> Brenda
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> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:15 AM
> Subject: Re: I can't get my purchases to transfer from my iPhone to my
> iPadMini
> 
> 
> Brenda,
> Make sure "apps" is checked before you sync the iPad.
> Glenn
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> Subject: I can't get my purchases to transfer from my iPhone to my iPad Mini
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> Subject says it all, y'all. What have I gotta do?
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Re: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini

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Hello Brenda. With Voice dream from what I know you don’t sink books that are 
in the library. You can open books in there using the services that it allows 
you like drop box or Book share i think. There are others. There may be other 
settings it keeps the same. You can purchase voices which then can be 
downloaded on other devices with no extra charges due to the fact that they 
were purchased with your apple ID. I know of no other purchases like books that 
you can make with it. I hope this helps.
On Mar 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:

> Well, I guess I must not be doing something right, because, for example, 
> let's use Voice Dream. I have all kinds of books and stuff in there and I 
> want them over here, on this iPad. The app had to be redownloaded, but the 
> purchases will not transfer, and so on and so on and so on. I was told that 
> if you kept the same apple ID for both devices, you can do this. But I'm not 
> able to do it. The folder structure that is on my iPhone did not transfer 
> with iTunes and so on. What am I missing here? Passwords did not transfer 
> either and accounts did not transfer either. What am I missing here?
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
> 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: trying to sync with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> 
> I don't think iDevices synch with each other, at least I have never heard of
> this. They synch with iTunes. You have to normally set up synch preferences
> for each device under iTunes.
> 
> You can of course make the preferences identical.
> David Griffith
> 
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> Sent: 13 March 2014 20:38
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: trying to sybnc with my iPhone on my new iPad Mini
> 
> Hello all,
> 
>Just got an iPad Mini today. I'm trying to sync with the iPhone5. For
> some reason, iTunes doesn't seem to be doing it. I told iTunes to trust this
> 
> comptuer and it does't seem to be doing it.I'll have to know what I need to
> check and uncheck to get these to sync.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: logitech 810 documentation?

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I think you need something called the logitech keyboard preference manager. It 
should be on there site. Actually I think it is the logitech control center. It 
sits in preferences when you install it. It lets you use the function keys. 
Someone on this list told me about it a long time ago. 
On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:54 PM, melissa tucker  wrote:

> I got this keyboard so I could pair it with my mac and iphone.  Paring isn't 
> the problem, it is trying to use the functions on the top row.  I was 
> wondering if anyone successfully uses this keyboard with the mac and could 
> tell me which functions the top row has?  they are so much different than a 
> regular keyboard.  Thanks for any help.
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Re: Renaming Alius Folder on Desktop

[Matthew Carello]

That will teach me not to type too fast. Yes they are control and option. I do 
use command and option for things so just got it confused. My apologies for 
that.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:58 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> I am not trying to rename any folders  as I 
> don’t have any, but I want to make a slight correction. The Voiceover keys 
> are actually Control and Option, not Command and Option.
> JakeJAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
> 
>> I apologize. I forgot to add something. You hit voiceover keys which are the 
>> command and options key and the shift key and down arrow. This will let you 
>> interact with the text in case you want to modify what is there as opposed 
>> to typing something completely new instead of what is there. 
>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Eleanor Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I found that on pressing Enter I could indeed edit the name of a file but I 
>>> am unsure what you are saying re VO keys and down arrow as I tried this too 
>>> but nothing seemed to happen.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Matthew Carello" 
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Renaming Alias Folder on Desktop
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> You hit the enter key on the folder you want to rename. This also works 
>>>> for files. at this point you can start typing and it will replace what is 
>>>> there. If you want to just change it hit voiceover keys and down arrow to 
>>>> interact with it and add or remove what you need to. Then hit enter and it 
>>>> should be all good.
>>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Eleanor Burke  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All, I have ended up with a folder on my desktop which has the word 
>>>>> Allis repeated twice so I would like to rename this folder, similarly I 
>>>>> have ended up with an Allis folder on the desktop called dropbox1 Allis 
>>>>> so I want to remove the 1 from the name. Help excellent thank you.
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Re: Renaming Alius Folder on Desktop

[Matthew Carello]

I apologize. I forgot to add something. You hit voiceover keys which are the 
command and options key and the shift key and down arrow. This will let you 
interact with the text in case you want to modify what is there as opposed to 
typing something completely new instead of what is there. 
On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> I found that on pressing Enter I could indeed edit the name of a file but I 
> am unsure what you are saying re VO keys and down arrow as I tried this too 
> but nothing seemed to happen.
> - Original Message - From: "Matthew Carello" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Renaming Alius Folder on Desktop
> 
> 
>> You hit the enter key on the folder you want to rename. This also works for 
>> files. at this point you can start typing and it will replace what is there. 
>> If you want to just change it hit voiceover keys and down arrow to interact 
>> with it and add or remove what you need to. Then hit enter and it should be 
>> all good.
>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Eleanor Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All, I have ended up with a folder on my desktop which has the word 
>>> alius repeated twice so I would like to rename this folder, similarly I 
>>> have ended up with an alius folder on the desktop called dropbox1 alius so 
>>> I want to remove the 1 from the name.  Help excellent thank you.
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Re: Renaming Alius Folder on Desktop

[Matthew Carello]

You hit the enter key on the folder you want to rename. This also works for 
files. at this point you can start typing and it will replace what is there. If 
you want to just change it hit voiceover keys and down arrow to interact with 
it and add or remove what you need to. Then hit enter and it should be all good.
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Hi All, I have ended up with a folder on my desktop which has the word alius 
> repeated twice so I would like to rename this folder, similarly I have ended 
> up with an alius folder on the desktop called dropbox1 alius so I want to 
> remove the 1 from the name.  Help excellent thank you. 
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Re: Dropbox Folder on Doc

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. It is just as easy or even easier to create an alias for drop 
box like someone mentioned earlier. This can be copied to the mac desktop which 
is the area that hold the drives or the original finder area. Once moved there 
you can access your folders very easily.
On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Hi David in relation to Downloads the tip you gave below worked but it did 
> not work for Dropbox.  I want to have my Dropbox folder on the Dock so I can 
> quickly go to it and add or remove files from it.
> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
> 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Beginners Questions
> 
> 
>> To be able to view folders on the dock usefully With Voiceover you need to
>> make a change to the settings of the folder icon on the Dock.
>> 
>> You need to
>> 1. Change the view option from stack to folder.
>> 2. Change the folder view from grid to list.
>> 
>> You will find both these options if you navigate to the folder on the doc
>> and bring up the context menu with shift VO M.
>> 
>> After making these 2 changes you should find the folders will open up from
>> the Dock a little like the cascade window you used to get in Windows XP
>> start menu.
>> 
>> A caution again that I am still on ML so I cannot guarantee that this is the
>> same in Mavericks.
>> David Griffith.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 09 March 2014 09:33
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Beginners Questions
>> 
>> David, thank you.  I have some questions arising out of these excellent
>> answers.  Why then are all these folders on the Dock? especially if I would
>> not access them from there.  I also put on Team Viewer but again I do not
>> know how to access it.  I had it running in the background but now it is not
>> 
>> and it has disappeared from the Dock where I put it.  Once it is open I want
>> 
>> to be able to read the two numbers to allow someone access to my Mac.  In
>> relation to opening a folder voice over always says press voice over keys
>> and space-bar.
>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
>> 
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:46 AM
>> Subject: RE: Beginners Questions
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> What does it mean when I hear voice over say dropbox has no windows?
>>> This means that you have probably tried to open the DropBox app rather
>>> than
>>> your DropBox folder.
>>> There is little value in opening the DropBox app in this way and you will
>>> normally get this message.
>>> To open your dropbox  folder hit command shift H to go to your home
>>> folder.
>>> Interact, open the main user folder , which will be your name and then
>>> inside that folder you will find Desktop, Documents, Downloads and then
>>> finally your DropBox  folder. You can access and use your dropbox folder
>>> as
>>> a normal Finder folder from here. If you want a quicker way to getting
>>> there
>>> hit shift VO M on the dropbox folder and select make alias. This alias is
>>> like a Windows shortcut and you can for example copy or move it to the
>>> desktop. So you can get to your DropBox folder there.
>>> If you really need to get to the Dropbox app use VO M twice to get to menu
>>> extras and access the options there but getting to settings is an
>>> accessibility challenge with Voiceover in ML at least.
>>> 
>>> What does it mean when I hear Downloads in stacks?
>>> 
>>> I have not personally
>>> heard this   but I think you may be hearing simply that a download has
>>> arrived.   IT seems TO BE related to having a downloads stack in the dock
>>> which I personally do not have. It may be a Mavericks thing.  A Google
>>> search on your question revealed the following explanation.
>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3739
>>> 
>>> Personally if I want to access the downloads folder I used option command
>>> L
>>> from Finder rather than the Dock.
>>> 
>>> when I press voice over and space bar a folder does not open, why
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To open folders  use command down arrow and command up arrow to close it
>>> again.
>>> Alternatively use command O but the above it easier I think.
>>> How do I know what operating system I am running apart from the version
>>> number, e.g. Mountain Lion, Snow Leopard, Mavorix?  Excuse bad spelling.
>>> 
>>> I am not on my Mac at the moment but from menmory this is all under the
>>> normal Apple Menu in Finder. Have you looked there for About my Mac or
>>> software update?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Beginners Questions

[Matthew Carello]

I am not sure if there are written versions but there should be some text based 
information on there also.
On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Hi Matthew and others, while listening to the podcasts is excellent, are 
> there written transcripts of the podcasts as one likes to have a quick 
> reference guide when replicating what has been taught on the podcast.
> - Original Message - From: "Matthew Carello" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 1:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Beginners Questions
> 
> 
>> Hello Eleanor. I can answer at least one of your questions. There are times 
>> when you have to hit command which is either to the left or right of your  
>> space bar and the letter o to open a folder. Also a lot of your questions 
>> can be answered by looking at www.applevis.com on the home page there is a 
>> link that will take you to the help section for beginners of macs. Also ios 
>> devices. Please do not think I am saying not to ask questions on here. It is 
>> just a really really good resource for information on how to use a mac with 
>> VO. Also a lot of good app recommendations. And various other good 
>> information and podcasts.
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Eleanor Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What does it mean when I hear voice over say dropbox has no windows?
>>> What does it mean when I hear Downloads in stacks?
>>> Sometimes when I press voice over and space bar a folder does not open, why 
>>> might this be?
>>> How do I know what operating system I am running apart from the version 
>>> number, e.g. Mountain Lion, Snow Leopard, Mavorix?  Excuse bad spelling.
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Re: Beginners Questions

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Hello Eleanor. I can answer at least one of your questions. There are times 
when you have to hit command which is either to the left or right of your  
space bar and the letter o to open a folder. Also a lot of your questions can 
be answered by looking at www.applevis.com on the home page there is a link 
that will take you to the help section for beginners of macs. Also ios devices. 
Please do not think I am saying not to ask questions on here. It is just a 
really really good resource for information on how to use a mac with VO. Also a 
lot of good app recommendations. And various other good information and 
podcasts.
On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> What does it mean when I hear voice over say dropbox has no windows?
> What does it mean when I hear Downloads in stacks?
> Sometimes when I press voice over and space bar a folder does not open, why 
> might this be?
> How do I know what operating system I am running apart from the version 
> number, e.g. Mountain Lion, Snow Leopard, Mavorix?  Excuse bad spelling. 
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Re: can't move apps into folders on an iPad Mini

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Hello Aleeha. When 2apps are on top of each other or 1 is on top of a folder it 
should say so. Hold your finger there for about 2 to 3 seconds then very very 
slightly slide your finger left. It should say opening. At this point let go 
and it should go into the folder. you may have to do it more than once until 
you get the hang of it. I hope this helps.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:

> Aleeha

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Updating a Jawbone Jambox?

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I know there is accessibility issues with the Jambox site. Has 
anyone been able to update one using VO? I am not having any luck. I also have 
tried to download the manual with no better luck. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. This is using a mac book air running latest Mavericks.

Matt 
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Re: help with adding music to my iPhone through iTunes

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Hello there. I believe when you have the phone hooked up to the computer if you 
go into the tabs where you check what you want on the phone there should be 
something that says manually add songs to iTunes on the phone or something like 
that. You can then check the songs you want on the phone. Personally I don’t 
use iTunes to play music so I just keep the songs I want on the phone in there 
and then remove and replace when I want to. No muss No fuss.  
On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:11 AM, Margaret Booth  wrote:

> Can someone please help me to work out where I’m going wrong in adding my 
> music to my iPhone 5 through iTunes on my mac book pro and I have Mavericks 
> on my mac book pro.
> 
> connected my iPHone 5 to my Mac book pro and opened iTunes. Went to my iPhone 
> and selected it. Then I went to music and selected it and moved to vertical 
> splitter and open it. Then I went to the album table and selected the albums 
> that I wanted on my iPhone. Closed the table and closed the vertical splitter 
> and then press applied and then done but a message came up saying that all my 
> music won’t fit on my iPhone. the message was talking about all my music. I 
> don’t want all my music on my iPhone I only want selected albums. or music 
> 
> How can I put selected albums on my iPhone. 
> 
> Margaret 
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Re: Question about using imap with gmail in mac mail

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Thanks for getting back to me. So should I just leave it as it is for now? Is 
the bug that the boxes keep getting checked Or is the bug something else? 
again? 
On Feb 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I believe this is a bug. I have the same issue with  drafts. I was hoping 
> they would fix this in osx 10.9.1 or what ever the latest update is, but yeah 
> let's hope they fix it.
> 
> Take care.
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>> Hello all. I set my gmail to apple mail running latest mavericks. For some 
>> reason when I close and reopen mail it sets store junk mail on server. I 
>> keep unchecking this so I can delete the junk mail. Of course now they come 
>> back every time i open mail. does anyone know how i can permanently delete 
>> the junk email?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Question about using imap with gmail in mac mail

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I set my gmail to apple mail running latest mavericks. For some 
reason when I close and reopen mail it sets store junk mail on server. I keep 
unchecking this so I can delete the junk mail. Of course now they come back 
every time i open mail. does anyone know how i can permanently delete the junk 
email?

Thanks,
Matt 
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Question about text edit on a mac

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I was wondering if when using text edit on a mac running Mavericks 
if there is a way to have it ask if you wanted to save changes before closing a 
document? I ask this because I opened something and accidentally changed 
something and closed it before I hit undo and it did not confirm the change. I 
looked all over preferences for text edit and could not see anything like that. 
Any help would be great,

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Re: Is there a way to stop voice over not to turn down the sound volume while you are listening to streaming radio??

[Matthew Carello]

The best way I know to do this is to hit control option command and right or 
left arrow until you get to Voiceover  volume you can then hit the same three 
keys and down to lower or up to raise the volume ov voiceover.
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Re: 2 E-mail Accounts on Mac Book Air

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. First of all to get to preferences for any app hit command key 
either just left or right of the space bar and the comma. Secondly if you 
expand the in box you will see it has both mail  accounts in it. You expand by 
hitting voiceover keys and the backslash key. You can then automatically send 
from the account of the box you will be in.
On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Where do I find e-mail settings?  I also think e-mails are set to thread and 
> I want to change this to list.
> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
> 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:28 PM
> Subject: RE: 2 E-mail Accounts on Mac Book Air
> 
> 
>> You can always change the email account you send from by simply hitting the
>> button giving the account information in Mail.  On ML this appears at the
>> top of the edit area of the mail message. I am not sure about Mavericks.
>> 
>> To change the default mail provider you need to go to Mail settings and then
>> look under the compose tab to set which email account will be your default
>> for composing.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 01 February 2014 17:22
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: 2 E-mail Accounts on Mac Book Air
>> 
>> I have 2 e-mail accounts, how can I set them up in a way on the Mac Book Air
>> 
>> so that when I go to send an e-mail I am not being asked which e-mail
>> account I want to send the e-mail from, rather I can choose either of the
>> accounts to be in at any one time.
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Re: Turning Hardware Keys to Software Keys on Mac Book Air

[Matthew Carello]

Hello there. I apologize for coming in here so late but I was at work. The best 
way to find podcasts on the apple vis website is to either go right to the 
podcasts link or do a search for the topic you want information on. It is very 
easy to navigate.
On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Sound David, I will absorb all you say and need to look for that podcast on 
> Quick Nav, if anyone has a link please do send to the list.
> 
> eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
> 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Turning Hardware Keys to Software Keys on Mac Book Air
> 
> 
>> Generally on the Mac you press VO Space on an element to confirm, or if
>> using quick nav both up and down keys together.
>> Enter will sometimes work as does the spacebar but not always or vice versa
>> with some programs.
>> 
>> However if Voiceover is saying you need to restart the likelihood  is that
>> the updates have been applied and pressing enter has worked in this case.
>> 
>> I would suggest that on a mac air some time studying Quick Nav would make
>> life easier for you. This would avoid having to use commands like vo right
>> and left arrow and you can instead use the arrow cursor keys by themselves
>> and as I say up and down arrow together instead of vo spacebar.  After a
>> while pressing up and down arrow together feels like pressing enter on
>> Windows anyway.
>> 
>> I think you have a Bluetooth keyboard with an IOS device from memory so the
>> key shortcuts you would have learnt there  should largely also work on your
>> Mac Air.
>> There should be a Podcast on Quick Nav in the David Woodbridge collection
>> somewhere.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 30 January 2014 14:33
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Turning Hardware Keys to Software Keys on Mac Book Air
>> 
>> Thanks Matthew, now I have the keyboard and soft keys sorted, I wonder if
>> you can tell me how do I do an update.  I am told there are 2 updates
>> available but I do not know how to accept to update.  I tried pressing enter
>> 
>> and it did not do anything then I tried moving about again and then voice
>> over was saying that I needed to restart after updates so I wondered if the
>> updates had actually been done.
>> - Original Message - From: "Matthew Carello" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Turning Hardware Keys to Software Keys on Mac Book Air
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Eleanor. Go into preferences in the apple menu. Choose the keyboard
>>> button. When in there select the keyboard tab and go over to where it says
>> 
>>> use all f1,f2, etc  as as standard function keys.checkbox and check it. if
>> 
>>> it is unchecked it just means that you have to use the function key to the
>> 
>>> left of the control key to do the secondary operations for the function
>>> keys. When it is checked you use the function key to use the function keys
>> 
>>> for the operations that are shown on the keys themselves. Hope this helps.
>>> On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:08 AM, Eleanor Burke 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My friend told me that I have to turn my hardware keys to software keys
>>>> on my new Mac Book Air.  How do I do this?  If I do it can it be
>>>> reversed?  She has a Mac but has forgotten how it is done!  I only know
>>>> at present how to turn on and off my Mac Book Air and how to connect to
>>>> my home wi-fi so sorry for basic questions at this stage.
>>>> 
>>>> Eleanor
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Re: voice over is on but speech is muted! help

[Matthew Carello]

This is something that happens at random times. It happened to me once or 
twice. 
On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Sharon Stockman  wrote:

> Oh great got it working. You are right I must have done it by mistake. I do 
> wave my hands around a lot! Actually I do need to read a bit more about using 
> the Mac. I love it so far - only had it 3 weeks and am getting on well with 
> the use of help and the on board tutor guides with mail and safari but I’m 
> struggling with pages. I suspect I’m not interacting at the right points and 
> I find myself stuck in headers and footers. I’m getting there though and it 
> is different to windows which is all I’ve ever used.
> Thanks for the help it is much appreciated.
> Sharon
> On 30 Jan 2014, at 14:45, Eleanor Burke  wrote:
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>> I hope I can help here Sharon, it is a 3 finger double tap on the trackpad. 
>> You will have accidentally turned this off at the trackpad also.  Hope it 
>> works.  I just found a short podcast on it last night so it did me good to 
>> listen to it to answer your question.  It is only about a 2 minute podcast 
>> so I can send to you off list if you like.
>> - Original Message - From: "Sharon Stockman" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:35 PM
>> Subject: voice over is on but speech is muted! help
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was busy answering e-mails and my MacBook Air announced that voice over 
>>> was on but speech was muted. So I'm stuck with no speech to put this 
>>> problem right. Does anyone know the command to unmute the speech?
>>> Thanks Sharon
>>> 
>>> Sharon Stockman Ltd.
>>> Children's Services Consultant
>>> 
>>> This e-mail may have been sent by using speech activated software. I 
>>> apologise in advance for any errors.
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Re: Turning Hardware Keys to Software Keys on Mac Book Air

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Eleanor. Go into preferences in the apple menu. Choose the keyboard 
button. When in there select the keyboard tab and go over to where it says use 
all f1,f2, etc  as as standard function keys.checkbox and check it. if it is 
unchecked it just means that you have to use the function key to the left of 
the control key to do the secondary operations for the function keys. When it 
is checked you use the function key to use the function keys for the operations 
that are shown on the keys themselves. Hope this helps. 
On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:08 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> My friend told me that I have to turn my hardware keys to software keys on my 
> new Mac Book Air.  How do I do this?  If I do it can it be reversed?  She has 
> a Mac but has forgotten how it is done!  I only know at present how to turn 
> on and off my Mac Book Air and how to connect to my home wi-fi so sorry for 
> basic questions at this stage.
> 
> Eleanor 
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Re: Weird announcement

[Matthew Carello]

Wouldn’t using sharp keys and switching the caps lock to the right options key 
fix that? It would also enable the use of the caps lock key as the jaws or NVDA 
key? it should then stop using the right option key and t for the date and time 
announcement? Also when in the virtual window it is best to turn off VO so 
there is no way that it can interfere with any of the windows operations. Just 
a thought.
On Jan 30, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> Hello Margaret,
> 
> Sounds like maybe keyboard commander is turned on and the command to Run 
> Applescript script “Time of Day” is enabled.
> 
> You can view and change this option by opening the VO Utility, navigating to 
> the “Commanders” category, and selecting the “keyboard commander” tab.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:24 AM, Margaret  wrote:
>> I have a mac book pro and I'm using mavericks. I opened launch pad and then 
>> I opened messenger for the first time once I did this a voice came up 
>> announcing date and time. Now where ever I'm on the mac and I press option 
>> plus t a voice announces the date and time. How can I turn off the voice? It 
>> is effecting my window side as well. I don't want to go into that here. 
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Re: in a few short mounths i wil be geting a mack book air

[Matthew Carello]

Hello there. i would go with 8 gig. it is not that much more to have this 
added. it will also more than cover you for any upgrades to the OS that come 
out. Also for other reasons given. It is better safe than sorry.

Matt 
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Re: An Issue With YoruFukurou Twitter Client

[Matthew Carello]

If you hit command and the left or right arrows it will move you between them. 
timeline mentions dm favorites so on is what I mean grin 
On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Weird thing is that whenever I use the arrow keys, and try to do one of the 
> commands to have an action done, I just get the default error tone.I interact 
> with the table and use the arrow keys to move around.
> 
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Re: An Issue With YoruFukurou Twitter Client

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Hello Dane. What I do is as follows. I do not interact with the fields. I mean 
I do not hit vo shift down arrow to interact with the areas. I use command and 
right or left arrow to go to the field I want. I then use j and k keys to move 
forward and backward in the list that I am currently in. When it is on the 
tweet i want to do something such as reply to I then hit the enter key and this 
seems to work. It also works for direct messages and favoriting and so on. I 
hope this helps.
On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Okay thanks I forgot to mention how I was navigating, I'll make a point of 
> just using the arrow keys as suggested and see how I get on.

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Re: Skype Question.

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Isn’t it possible to just hit vo keys and left arrow until you get to it? It 
should be just right of the tool bar. To access it you just hit vo and down 
arrow to open it move to the history and then vo up arrow to close it?
On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> You should be able to just vo cmd t to it or vo to it. If it is not there 
> whilst in a call, hit the show side bar button.
> 
> Tc.
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> How does one access that sidebar?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/27/2013 3:36 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> It is at the very bottom of the sidebar, after all of the conversations.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
  wrote:
 
 Hello Gang:
 
 How does one access the history in Skype?
 
 Thanks all over the place gang.
 
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Has anyone tried listen the gesture music player?

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I recently got Listen, the gesture music player from mac paw. I do 
the commands with swiping and it just seems to be the normal iOS VO gestures. I 
tried it with VO off and it didn’t work. Has anyone else tried this? If so did 
you get it to work?

Thanks,
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Re: VoiceOver going mute

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I do know there is a bug that I told apple about. If you accidentally hit both 
the up and down volume buttons together voiceover gets killed. It even kills 
triple click of home. That might be what is going on.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:

> Chris,
> I can't say I have. But then again I haven't made a habit of turning volume 
> down so low, so perhaps it's something reproducible. I don't really care to 
> try though. :-)
> All the best,
> Zack.
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>> On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Chris Goodwin  
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>> Hi,
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>> I've had the following experience on my iPhone twice now where VoiceOver 
>> gets muted and it can't easily be unmuted.
>> 
>> When in an application the volume is turned down to zero with the button on 
>> the side.  The app is then closed and/or the phone locked.  When I unlock 
>> the phone VoiceOver is now silent.  VoiceOver is running because icons need 
>> a double tap, but raising the volume doesn't help.  Indeed, the volume in 
>> settings reads 100%.
>> 
>> The solution to the problem is to run the app which was last being run, and 
>> then the volume buttons do as expected.
>> 
>> Has anyone else ever had this problem?
>> 
>> I may not have exactly described how the problem comes about, but its as 
>> close as I can work out at the mo.  It may also have something to do with VO 
>> being on the triple home button press toggle.
>> 
>> Best to all,
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Re: iPad

[Matthew Carello]

Me and my wife recently upgraded to the iPhone 5s. We each got a Mophie air 
juice pack\. These are awesome. They do not make the phone to big and I 
actually like the style. With my normal use I started it on the charging part 
at 5:30 yesterday morning. After the charger part died it went to phone battery 
and is still going as I write this email. I used some gps, read, and did some 
social stuff on it. So far this battery pack looks really worth it.
On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> An extra battery pack on the phone is still much smaller than lugging an 
> iPad.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris H" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: iPad
> 
> 
> Not Phil but ok, I currently use my phone every day, therefore only
> getting two to three days battery life at a push. With the pad and this
> is just an example I could receive a notification on the phone but
> actually deal with it on the pad, therefore saving battery life on the
> phone.
> 
> On 06/12/2013 01:12, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Phil,
>> Aside from the different layout that you get on the iPad with some apps, 
>> which some folks like and others don't, there are advantages to having 
>> more than one device. It's sort of depends on how much you use your phone 
>> every day. I know that I could not do everything on my phone that I do on 
>> my phone plus my iPad, simply because the battery would run out. And I do 
>> like the sound of the larger speaker or bigger cabinet or whatever it is 
>> on the iPad. So I do most of my reading an radio listening on the pad.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>>> I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over 
>>> an iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does 
>>> that isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone
 thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear 
 it too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 
 inches, and the sound quality is great.
 So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to 
 go.
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 Chris.
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Re: Any good reason not to go to ios7?

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One big reason I believe to update is security. A lot of people started hacking 
IOS6 because others thought it could not be done. IOS7 contains things that 
stop that. Also being they are not working on IOS6 anymore it would be just 
safer to have the latest update. At least that is what I hear.
On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:59 AM, Chris Goodwin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have my iPhone 4S and have held back from updating to ios7 in case it isn't 
> so accessible.
> 
> Are there any good reasons not to update?
> 
> I use my phone with VO and mostly without looking at the screen, though I can 
> see positions of some screen content in low light levels.
> 
> 
> Thanks all,
> 
> Chris 
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My apologies to Gordon

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I just wanted to apologize to Gordon. I believe he was responding to 
another eEmail  that was in response to mine. I apologize for sending this on 
list again but I figure since I said the last thing on list I may as well 
openly apologize to him. All I can say is I have had a very long day and didn’t 
read down further and that was my fault.
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Re: help with setting up vm ware?

[Matthew Carello]

Hello Gordon. My original post was in regards to the set up on the mac side of 
it. As I noted it had nothing to do with the windows side. I just needed what 
settings had to be done in the vm ware side of it. Also I am sorry I don’t have 
a lot of time to search through archives due to work and travel time to and 
from. I just thought maybe someone could give me some information off list if 
possible even. I don’t think i deserved to be lashed at like that. I did try 
and send you this off list but did not see an email address in your signature 
and apple mail sent it to the list only when I hit reply all. 
On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hello
> Please do not discuss your Winjows issues in this group.  The list policy 
> clearly states that this discusssion is prohibited.  The discussion of the 
> virtual machine itself, that is, the discussion of how to configure the 
> virtual machine on the OS X side of is acceptable.  But the discussion of how 
> to configure the guest system is off topic.
> Actually, I encourage members to make use of the list archives.  these issues 
> have been discussed repeatedly already and you'd be doing us all a favour by 
> utilising this resourse.
> Kind Regards
> Gordon Smith
> Information Technology Accessibility consultant
> Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss:  Advice On 
> Accessible Information Technologies And Braille Transcription Services.
> 
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> From: Phil Halton  To: OS X & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:22:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: help with setting up vm ware?
> 
> Mathew, I use Jaws in windows7 in VMWare under mountain lion, and will 
> probably not be upgrading anytime soon either.  One thing you'll need to be 
> aware of when installing and using Jaws is the need to modify some setting to 
> have access to an insert key, or a caps lock key for jaws in laptop keyboard 
> mode.  If you have a full-sized apple keyboard, this is not a problem because 
> that keyboard has an insert key, and you can run jaws in PC keyboard mode.  
> The caps lock is unavailable because apple doesn't treat it like a key press 
> but handles it differently, and it doesn't get passed along to windows - 
> making it unavailable as a jaws modifier key.
> 
> What I've done, and what a lot of people do, is to use a freeware windows  
> program called sharp keys to assign the grave accent key to act as a caps 
> lock key, and then set jaws to run in laptop keyboard mode with the caps lock 
> (now the grave accent key) as the jaws modifier key.
> .
> 
> another way, probably the better way, is to set up VMWare to substitute an 
> insert key for the caps lock key, so that when you press capslock, vmware 
> sends an insert key to windows.
> I've forgotten how that's done in vmware now, but it's fairly simple.  
> probably a lot simpler than the sharp keys method and the third option that I 
> won't mention here now.
> 
> The only drawback to the last method is that you lose one Jaws command, the 
> command is insert+J, which has a conflict that causes it to be unusable.  
> However, pressing control left arrow does the same thing as insert + j and so 
> it doesn't really matter.
> 
> Sorry I can't give accurate directions on how to set up an insert key from 
> within vmware, I'm sure someone here will tell you if you ask.
> 
> .
> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:
> 
> Hello all.  I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air.  All seemed to go ok. 
>  Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make it work better? 
> I have been choosing single window mode and full window.  I can get narrator 
> to start up but what would be better to use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use 
> jaws if possible because I know it better.  Is there any good tutorials out 
> there? Thanks for any help.
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help with setting up vm ware?

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air. All seemed to go ok. 
Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make it work better? I 
have been choosing single window mode and full window. I can get narrator to 
start up but what would be better to use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use jaws 
if possible because I know it better. Is there any good tutorials out there? 
Thanks for any help.
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Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?

[Matthew Carello]

I also like having an IPHone and iPad mini.  It gives one device a rest at 
times lol. Also certain things work better on one over the other. It just gives 
a nice change of pace at times.
On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a 
> mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just 
> the one phone. There's  audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the 
> reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I 
> would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick 
> office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that.
> In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For 
> instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the 
> phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For 
> example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the 
> left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have 
> all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many 
> screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the 
> other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, 
> while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case.
> If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is 
> better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I 
> don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't 
> think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The 
> battery would run out too soon.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "David Griffith"  
> wrote:
> 
>> As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to
>> require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery
>> life.
>> The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap
>> external Bluetooth keyboard   on an iPhone will give a better keyboard
>> experience anyway.
>> 
>> If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely
>> different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger
>> display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been
>> able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At
>> the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which
>> is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone.
>> However Pages will meet most word processing  needs and I do not routinely
>> use Spreadsheets on a mobile device.
>> 
>> So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to
>> a phone seem very tenuous to me.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> .
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
>> Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
>> 
>> Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe 
>> iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use 
>> my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, 
>> write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so 
>> on. Their reply was, "you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your
>> 
>> phone like that." But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between 
>> the iPad and the iPhone 5?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net 
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[Matthew Carello]

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