voiceover voices

[amy gilbert]

hi all, i’m having a bit of a problem. the other day i was playing with the 
other voice options or whatever it’s called in voiceover utility i checked it 
and changed the voices to what i wanted, then i didn’t like it so i tried to 
change it all back again. now, when i want to change the default voice i get 
alex reading most things and the default reading only some, for example, the 
new voice will say, finder, then alex will say the contents of the finder 
window. i’ve unchecked the other voice options and it will not let the new 
voice read everything, if i want that i have to check that other voice options 
again and change everything manually, e.g, contents voice, atributes voice, 
etc. i just want it back the way it was before, when you selected a default 
voice it was the default voice. sorry i hope you all understand what i’m on 
about lol. amy
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Re: clicking the mouse with mouse keys

[amy gilbert]

hi, thanks i've managed to do it, it's option shift i
On 11 Jun 2013, at 02:03, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> If you want to do a virtual mouseclick, you can press control plus option 
> plus shift plus space. I know this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but 
> it is a way to click the mouse if you need it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:46 PM, amy gilbert 
>  wrote:
> 
>> hi, i just tried that in itunes and it asks if i want to back up the iphone. 
>> what i'm trying to do is put the ios7 beta onto the iphone to do it 
>> propperly you need mouse or trackpad. i just can't remember the key combo at 
>> all, it was more than 2 though i think. amy
>> On 11 Jun 2013, at 01:41, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> and if you are on your laptop, then it's option i key.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah, num pad 5 should do a mouse click.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>> Subject: clicking the mouse with mouse keys
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> hi all, unfortunatly i haven't got my magic mouse anymore and no trackpad 
>>>>> so having to use mousekeys in itunes to get IOS7 beta. does anyone know 
>>>>> the key combination to do a mouse click? i've forgotten. using wireless 
>>>>> keyboard. amy
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Re: clicking the mouse with mouse keys

[amy gilbert]

hi, i just tried that in itunes and it asks if i want to back up the iphone. 
what i'm trying to do is put the ios7 beta onto the iphone to do it propperly 
you need mouse or trackpad. i just can't remember the key combo at all, it was 
more than 2 though i think. amy
On 11 Jun 2013, at 01:41, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> and if you are on your laptop, then it's option i key.
> 
> Take care.
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, num pad 5 should do a mouse click.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:13 PM
>> Subject: clicking the mouse with mouse keys
>> 
>> 
>>> hi all, unfortunatly i haven't got my magic mouse anymore and no trackpad 
>>> so having to use mousekeys in itunes to get IOS7 beta. does anyone know the 
>>> key combination to do a mouse click? i've forgotten. using wireless 
>>> keyboard. amy
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Re: clicking the mouse with mouse keys

[amy gilbert]

it's all good i've done it :)
On 11 Jun 2013, at 01:41, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> and if you are on your laptop, then it's option i key.
> 
> Take care.
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
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>> Yeah, num pad 5 should do a mouse click.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:13 PM
>> Subject: clicking the mouse with mouse keys
>> 
>> 
>>> hi all, unfortunatly i haven't got my magic mouse anymore and no trackpad 
>>> so having to use mousekeys in itunes to get IOS7 beta. does anyone know the 
>>> key combination to do a mouse click? i've forgotten. using wireless 
>>> keyboard. amy
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Re: clicking the mouse with mouse keys

[amy gilbert]

i'm not using the wired keyboard, the apple wireless one. amy
On 11 Jun 2013, at 00:55, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> Yeah, num pad 5 should do a mouse click.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:13 PM
> Subject: clicking the mouse with mouse keys
> 
> 
>> hi all, unfortunatly i haven't got my magic mouse anymore and no trackpad so 
>> having to use mousekeys in itunes to get IOS7 beta. does anyone know the key 
>> combination to do a mouse click? i've forgotten. using wireless keyboard. amy
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clicking the mouse with mouse keys

[amy gilbert]

hi all, unfortunatly i haven't got my magic mouse anymore and no trackpad so 
having to use mousekeys in itunes to get IOS7 beta. does anyone know the key 
combination to do a mouse click? i've forgotten. using wireless keyboard. amy
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Re: probably a very dum question

[amy gilbert]

yeah it didn't take me long either, i just focused on the fact it's nothing 
like windows and latched on streight away, i was so impatient at first, i 
wanted to learn everything at the same time. i was using the mac full time 
within a month or too, and have only gone back to windows for a few months 
since when teamtalk wasn't accessible on the mac.
On 12 Feb 2013, at 13:27, Terry clasper  wrote:

> Totally loving it.
> I've had it for around 10 days now, and to be honest only use my windows 
> machine for work and broadcasting now!
> I love the navigational logic, the speed of the whole experience, and, of 
> course, the hardware!
> Its odd, I never thought I'd make the move, but I'm so pleased I did!
> The other interesting thing is that at the same time as buying mine I also 
> bought one for my wife, who mainly uses e-mail and twitter. From the moment 
> she put her hands on the mac she has not since used her windows machine, and 
> she is probably one of the most none technical people I know!
> She just adopted  the logic and took o it within minutes.
> 
> On 12 Feb 2013, at 13:23, amy gilbert  
> wrote:
> 
>> that's alright, how are you finding the mac so far?
>> On 12 Feb 2013, at 12:34, Terry clasper  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.
>>> Yes you are correct, the notifications were coming from twitter which isn't 
>>> a specific app.
>>> However I shut them up by going to notification centre, finding twitter, 
>>> and choosing none!
>>> Now as before I only have tweet notifications from my chosen twitter client.
>>> However the question helped me because I know now how to remove 
>>> applications as I need to.
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2013, at 12:18, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> First of all,
>>>> 
>>>> there is no default twitter app that I am aware of and don't know where 
>>>> you're getting that.  OSX can automatically send you notifications about 
>>>> Twitter to your notification center, but that's definitely not a full 
>>>> Twitter client, such as Sirynx or better yet, YoruFukurou.
>>>> 
>>>> There's not really per sey a way to shut off the twitter notifications.  
>>>> You could however either delete the account entirely from system 
>>>> preferences/mail, contacts, calendars, or you could go under system prefs, 
>>>> notifications, and set Twitter to not ever notify, although that kind a 
>>>> defeats the holw reason to have it set up in the first place.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Gilland.
>>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
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>>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
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>>>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: probably a very dum question
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> hi, i think you can delete the default twitter client as it's not 
>>>>> accessible, or is it now? or you can go into it's settings if you can 
>>>>> access them, there might be a setting in there to make it start up at 
>>>>> start up that you could disable. sorry i'm not much help. amy
>>>>> On 12 Feb 2013, at 06:56, Terry clasper  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> I'm very new to the mac so apologies for this probably very basic 
>>>>>> question.
>>>>>> Somehow the in built twitter app has decided to start automatically 
>>>>>> which I don't want to happen.
>>>>>> Can someone please tell me how to stop this from starting when my system 
>>>>>> boots?
>>>>>> Thanks very much indeed!
>>>>>> 
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Re: probably a very dum question

[amy gilbert]

that's alright, how are you finding the mac so far?
On 12 Feb 2013, at 12:34, Terry clasper  wrote:

> HI.
> Yes you are correct, the notifications were coming from twitter which isn't a 
> specific app.
> However I shut them up by going to notification centre, finding twitter, and 
> choosing none!
> Now as before I only have tweet notifications from my chosen twitter client.
> However the question helped me because I know now how to remove applications 
> as I need to.
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> On 12 Feb 2013, at 12:18, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> First of all,
>> 
>> there is no default twitter app that I am aware of and don't know where 
>> you're getting that.  OSX can automatically send you notifications about 
>> Twitter to your notification center, but that's definitely not a full 
>> Twitter client, such as Sirynx or better yet, YoruFukurou.
>> 
>> There's not really per sey a way to shut off the twitter notifications.  You 
>> could however either delete the account entirely from system 
>> preferences/mail, contacts, calendars, or you could go under system prefs, 
>> notifications, and set Twitter to not ever notify, although that kind a 
>> defeats the holw reason to have it set up in the first place.
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: probably a very dum question
>> 
>> 
>>> hi, i think you can delete the default twitter client as it's not 
>>> accessible, or is it now? or you can go into it's settings if you can 
>>> access them, there might be a setting in there to make it start up at start 
>>> up that you could disable. sorry i'm not much help. amy
>>> On 12 Feb 2013, at 06:56, Terry clasper  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I'm very new to the mac so apologies for this probably very basic question.
>>>> Somehow the in built twitter app has decided to start automatically which 
>>>> I don't want to happen.
>>>> Can someone please tell me how to stop this from starting when my system 
>>>> boots?
>>>> Thanks very much indeed!
>>>> 
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Re: probably a very dum question

[amy gilbert]

hi, i think you can delete the default twitter client as it's not accessible, 
or is it now? or you can go into it's settings if you can access them, there 
might be a setting in there to make it start up at start up that you could 
disable. sorry i'm not much help. amy
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> Hi.
> I'm very new to the mac so apologies for this probably very basic question.
> Somehow the in built twitter app has decided to start automatically which I 
> don't want to happen.
> Can someone please tell me how to stop this from starting when my system 
> boots?
> Thanks very much indeed!
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Re: iBook seems to skip lots of text

[amy gilbert]

hi, where do you change the theme in ibooks?
On 4 Feb 2013, at 14:12, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hi Zachary, 
> You are a genius! I checked my iBooks themes and indeed found that the scroll 
> theme was somehow checked. I checked the books theme instead and it now all 
> works fine. 
> So many thanks for that!
> Best regards
> 
> Paul Hopewell
> On 3 Feb 2013, at 20:26, Zachary Kline  wrote:
> 
>> My thoughts here, did you perhaps change the default theme? I believe that 
>> one of them, continuous scroll, is not as accessible as it could otherwise 
>> be. Beyond this, I'm fresh out of ideas.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Paul,
>>> 
>>> Is this a book that you got from the iBooks Store that is in ePub format?  
>>> Specifically, could this be a book that was created elsewhere, and where 
>>> you used the "open in" feature to open this in IBooks.  Alternatively, 
>>> could this have large amounts of embedded graphics? 
>>> 
>>> I haven't experienced the problems you describe.  There are some multimedia 
>>> books in the iBooks store where navigation can be odd.  The only places 
>>> where I've generally found additional material that might not be read 
>>> automatically with the two finger swipe down are in the new interactive 
>>> eBooks that are distributed for iPad only, and that require iOS 6 to run.  
>>> 
>>> For example, I found there is a free interactive eBook named "User Guide to 
>>> Prizmo 2" and its counterpart in French, "Mode d'emploi pour Prizmo 2" by 
>>> Sandrine Loiseau. I'm reading these with the iOad in landscape mode, and 
>>> there are two pages on either side.  If I start a two finger swipe down 
>>> from the beginning of a section, VO reads the included text, but if I touch 
>>> the left side of the page, just under the section header, I'll access an 
>>> "In a nutshell" summary of the key chapter points.  Also, if I double tap 
>>> the table of contents button, "page thumbnails" appear along the bottom of 
>>> the screen. If I want to navigate with them, I have to tap to select one.  
>>> Then I can use a three finger scroll left or right to move by chapter 
>>> groups of thumbnails. Alternatively, I can flick right or left to the next 
>>> thumbnail. Double tapping a thumbnail takes me to that page, and I'm 
>>> finding that the first page in these chapters reads an overview, then stops 
>>> with the "bonk" noise for no
 t
> 
>> be
>>> ing able to navigate further. So I double tap the table of contents button 
>>> to bring up the page thumbnails, touch the thumbnail in the bottom left 
>>> corner to focus on it (VO announces something like "thumbnail 17, first 
>>> page in chapter"), I flick right to "page 18", and double tap. If I touch 
>>> the top left of the page, just under the toolbar, I'll hear "Section 1 
>>> Importing Documents".  At this point if if do the two finger flick down, VO 
>>> will read the section contents.  But if I touch the left side of the screen 
>>> below the heading, I'll hear the "In a Nutshell" summary points for this 
>>> section.
>>> 
>>> The experience is different in portrait mode. The text read continuously, 
>>> including the summary before sections, and double tapping the table of 
>>> contents brought a listing of the four chapters with an "expand or collapse 
>>> section outline" button that would show/hide the subsection titles.  Here 
>>> you double tap the sections to go to those pages.  I was finding the 
>>> continuous reading less stable in this configuration mode, as though it 
>>> were loading a larger block of content at a time, and sometimes not 
>>> finishing with the update.
>>> 
>>> The interactive iPad-and-iOS 6-only are the only iBooks for which I have 
>>> seen this kind of behavior, though.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, 
 I am running iBook on my iPhone 3GS under IOS 6.1. I am using the two 
 finger downward swipe to read the book continuously from start to finish. 
 this worked fine on my first iBook (under IOS 6.0). 
 
 With this, my second iBook, VoiceOver seems to omit large chunks of text. 
 From the page numbers at the bottom of each page I seem to be reading all 
 the book's physical pages but there are big discontinuities between the 
 bottom of one physical page and the start of the next physical page. I 
 wonder if the source book is formatted as two columns per physical page 
 and VoiceOver is only reading the left hand columns? 
 
 As I am doing this on an iPhone there are many iPhone pages for each 
 physical book page, even if I use the smallest font. 
 
 Do you have any thoughts on what might be happening and on what I can do 
 to fix it? I have most of the options in the iBook settings turned off. 
 
 Many thanks for any help. 
 
 Paul Hopewell
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another transmit problem (sorry)

[amy gilbert]

hi all, i'm getting so annoyed with transmit, it keeps saying the surver denies 
things, when i know the surver is completely alright. it won't let me download 
files, when i try it says surver only allows 2 log ins or something, when i'm 
only logged in once. i can't use ciber duck properly either, is there another 
accessible ftp client? i've got passive mode enabled with transmit.
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uploading with transmit ftp client

[amy gilbert]

hi all, when i try and upload a file to an ftp surver i'm on it says, could not 
upload, surver said access denied, is there a certain way i have to do it? i 
expand the uploads folder on the surver, vo left to the remote browser and vo 
shift m and upload, is that right? amy
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Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

yeah, wierd thing is it charges perfectly well in the dock and with a usb cable 
on the computer
On 20 Jan 2013, at 23:13, "Terry Clasper"  wrote:

> Hum then it does kind of point to the connector on the phone!
> Good luck!
> 
> Terry Clasper. 
> E-Mail, terry.clas...@btinternet.com
> Twitter: @terryclasper
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of amy gilbert
> Sent: 20 January 2013 23:11
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem
> 
> thanks anyway terry, i reckon it has got something to do with the phone, as
> my nano works perfectly in the dock, also phone used to work fine when i
> first got IOS6. 
> On 20 Jan 2013, at 23:08, "Terry Clasper" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi again.
>> I'm no expert and would never attempt to make definitive statements,
> however
>> it does now sound like something could be a mis either with the IPhone
>> connector or the doc.
>> I wonder if you could try docking to another device and see if you get the
>> same problem.
>> If you don't then the problem it clearly with the the dock, if you do then
>> it kind of points to the connector on your IPhone.
>> Sorry my suggestion didnt' bear frute.
>> 
>> 
>> Terry Clasper. 
>> E-Mail, terry.clas...@btinternet.com
>> Twitter: @terryclasper
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of amy gilbert
>> Sent: 20 January 2013 23:04
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem
>> 
>> hi, just tried that and no go.
>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 22:14, "Terry Clasper" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.
>>> Its worth turning the volume up on the IPhone once you start something
>>> playing when its docked.
>>> IN other words, start something playing, dock the phone, then hold the
>>> volume up button on the IPhone.
>>> This simple thogh it sounds may be the issue especially as the phone is
>>> charging when connected.
>>> Sometimes I've seen this when, for some reason, the phone turns itself
>> right
>>> down when docked.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terry Clasper. 
>>> E-Mail, terry.clas...@btinternet.com
>>> Twitter: @terryclasper
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of amy gilbert
>>> Sent: 20 January 2013 22:11
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem
>>> 
>>> hi i've done that and still no luck, surely it can't be the phone because
>> it
>>> charges ok?
>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 21:29, David McLean  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What if any problems do you have charging the phone?  You'd need to use
>>> the same connection (30 pin) to do that.  If that works and the
> connection
>>> to the Bose doesn't I guess the connection it's making is impaired in
> some
>>> way.  I've seen instances where the device might be leaning just slightly
>>> one way or another and not making good contact.  I'd try reconnecting it
> a
>>> few times and see if you can get it to work at all.
>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:40 PM, amy gilbert
>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hi it's the 30 pin version
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 14:41, David McLean  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oops.  Missed that you're using the dock not the sound link.  I assume
>>> your iPhone works otherwise, i.e. when not docked?  
>>>>>> Is this one of the new docks with the lightning connector or the
>>> traditional 30 pin adapter?
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:58 AM, amy gilbert
>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hi, i'm using a bose sound dock, and yep volume is up.
>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dumb question, but is the volume turned up on the dock?  I assume it
>>> is, seeing you say your Nano works.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What type dock are you using?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris Gilland.
>>>>>>>> Foun

Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

thanks anyway terry, i reckon it has got something to do with the phone, as my 
nano works perfectly in the dock, also phone used to work fine when i first got 
IOS6. 
On 20 Jan 2013, at 23:08, "Terry Clasper"  wrote:

> Hi again.
> I'm no expert and would never attempt to make definitive statements, however
> it does now sound like something could be a mis either with the IPhone
> connector or the doc.
> I wonder if you could try docking to another device and see if you get the
> same problem.
> If you don't then the problem it clearly with the the dock, if you do then
> it kind of points to the connector on your IPhone.
> Sorry my suggestion didnt' bear frute.
> 
> 
> Terry Clasper. 
> E-Mail, terry.clas...@btinternet.com
> Twitter: @terryclasper
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of amy gilbert
> Sent: 20 January 2013 23:04
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem
> 
> hi, just tried that and no go.
> On 20 Jan 2013, at 22:14, "Terry Clasper" 
> wrote:
> 
>> HI.
>> Its worth turning the volume up on the IPhone once you start something
>> playing when its docked.
>> IN other words, start something playing, dock the phone, then hold the
>> volume up button on the IPhone.
>> This simple thogh it sounds may be the issue especially as the phone is
>> charging when connected.
>> Sometimes I've seen this when, for some reason, the phone turns itself
> right
>> down when docked.
>> 
>> 
>> Terry Clasper. 
>> E-Mail, terry.clas...@btinternet.com
>> Twitter: @terryclasper
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of amy gilbert
>> Sent: 20 January 2013 22:11
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem
>> 
>> hi i've done that and still no luck, surely it can't be the phone because
> it
>> charges ok?
>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 21:29, David McLean  wrote:
>> 
>>> What if any problems do you have charging the phone?  You'd need to use
>> the same connection (30 pin) to do that.  If that works and the connection
>> to the Bose doesn't I guess the connection it's making is impaired in some
>> way.  I've seen instances where the device might be leaning just slightly
>> one way or another and not making good contact.  I'd try reconnecting it a
>> few times and see if you can get it to work at all.
>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:40 PM, amy gilbert
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi it's the 30 pin version
>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 14:41, David McLean  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Oops.  Missed that you're using the dock not the sound link.  I assume
>> your iPhone works otherwise, i.e. when not docked?  
>>>>> Is this one of the new docks with the lightning connector or the
>> traditional 30 pin adapter?
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:58 AM, amy gilbert
>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi, i'm using a bose sound dock, and yep volume is up.
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dumb question, but is the volume turned up on the dock?  I assume it
>> is, seeing you say your Nano works.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What type dock are you using?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris Gilland.
>>>>>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>>>>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>>>>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>>>>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>>>>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>>>>>>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert"
>> 
>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:14 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: iPhone 4S and dock problem
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hi all, i don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but when i
>> connect my iphone to my dock no audio comes out of the speakers, but when
> i
>> connect my ipod nano to it it works fine. it charges absolutely fine on
> the
>>

Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

hi, just tried that and no go.
On 20 Jan 2013, at 22:14, "Terry Clasper"  wrote:

> HI.
> Its worth turning the volume up on the IPhone once you start something
> playing when its docked.
> IN other words, start something playing, dock the phone, then hold the
> volume up button on the IPhone.
> This simple thogh it sounds may be the issue especially as the phone is
> charging when connected.
> Sometimes I've seen this when, for some reason, the phone turns itself right
> down when docked.
> 
> 
> Terry Clasper. 
> E-Mail, terry.clas...@btinternet.com
> Twitter: @terryclasper
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of amy gilbert
> Sent: 20 January 2013 22:11
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem
> 
> hi i've done that and still no luck, surely it can't be the phone because it
> charges ok?
> On 20 Jan 2013, at 21:29, David McLean  wrote:
> 
>> What if any problems do you have charging the phone?  You'd need to use
> the same connection (30 pin) to do that.  If that works and the connection
> to the Bose doesn't I guess the connection it's making is impaired in some
> way.  I've seen instances where the device might be leaning just slightly
> one way or another and not making good contact.  I'd try reconnecting it a
> few times and see if you can get it to work at all.
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:40 PM, amy gilbert
>  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi it's the 30 pin version
>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 14:41, David McLean  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oops.  Missed that you're using the dock not the sound link.  I assume
> your iPhone works otherwise, i.e. when not docked?  
>>>> Is this one of the new docks with the lightning connector or the
> traditional 30 pin adapter?
>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:58 AM, amy gilbert
>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hi, i'm using a bose sound dock, and yep volume is up.
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dumb question, but is the volume turned up on the dock?  I assume it
> is, seeing you say your Nano works.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What type dock are you using?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Gilland.
>>>>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>>>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>>>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>>>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>>>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>>>>>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert"
> 
>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:14 PM
>>>>>> Subject: iPhone 4S and dock problem
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hi all, i don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but when i
> connect my iphone to my dock no audio comes out of the speakers, but when i
> connect my ipod nano to it it works fine. it charges absolutely fine on the
> dock, just no audio at all. i'm really hoping it's not my phone that's
> broken. has anyone got any ideas why it could be doing it? amy
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Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

hi i've done that and still no luck, surely it can't be the phone because it 
charges ok?
On 20 Jan 2013, at 21:29, David McLean  wrote:

> What if any problems do you have charging the phone?  You'd need to use the 
> same connection (30 pin) to do that.  If that works and the connection to the 
> Bose doesn't I guess the connection it's making is impaired in some way.  
> I've seen instances where the device might be leaning just slightly one way 
> or another and not making good contact.  I'd try reconnecting it a few times 
> and see if you can get it to work at all.
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:40 PM, amy gilbert 
>  wrote:
> 
>> hi it's the 30 pin version
>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 14:41, David McLean  wrote:
>> 
>>> Oops.  Missed that you're using the dock not the sound link.  I assume your 
>>> iPhone works otherwise, i.e. when not docked?  
>>> Is this one of the new docks with the lightning connector or the 
>>> traditional 30 pin adapter?
>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:58 AM, amy gilbert 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi, i'm using a bose sound dock, and yep volume is up.
>>>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dumb question, but is the volume turned up on the dock?  I assume it is, 
>>>>> seeing you say your Nano works.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What type dock are you using?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Gilland.
>>>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>>>>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: iPhone 4S and dock problem
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi all, i don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but when i 
>>>>>> connect my iphone to my dock no audio comes out of the speakers, but 
>>>>>> when i connect my ipod nano to it it works fine. it charges absolutely 
>>>>>> fine on the dock, just no audio at all. i'm really hoping it's not my 
>>>>>> phone that's broken. has anyone got any ideas why it could be doing it? 
>>>>>> amy
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Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

hi it's the 30 pin version
On 20 Jan 2013, at 14:41, David McLean  wrote:

> Oops.  Missed that you're using the dock not the sound link.  I assume your 
> iPhone works otherwise, i.e. when not docked?  
> Is this one of the new docks with the lightning connector or the traditional 
> 30 pin adapter?
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:58 AM, amy gilbert 
>  wrote:
> 
>> hi, i'm using a bose sound dock, and yep volume is up.
>> On 20 Jan 2013, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dumb question, but is the volume turned up on the dock?  I assume it is, 
>>> seeing you say your Nano works.
>>> 
>>> What type dock are you using?
>>> 
>>> Chris Gilland.
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>>> - Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:14 PM
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>>>> i connect my ipod nano to it it works fine. it charges absolutely fine on 
>>>> the dock, just no audio at all. i'm really hoping it's not my phone that's 
>>>> broken. has anyone got any ideas why it could be doing it? amy
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Re: iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

hi, i'm using a bose sound dock, and yep volume is up.
On 20 Jan 2013, at 01:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> Dumb question, but is the volume turned up on the dock?  I assume it is, 
> seeing you say your Nano works.
> 
> What type dock are you using?
> 
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> ----- Original Message - From: "amy gilbert" 
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> Subject: iPhone 4S and dock problem
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>> hi all, i don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but when i connect 
>> my iphone to my dock no audio comes out of the speakers, but when i connect 
>> my ipod nano to it it works fine. it charges absolutely fine on the dock, 
>> just no audio at all. i'm really hoping it's not my phone that's broken. has 
>> anyone got any ideas why it could be doing it? amy
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iPhone 4S and dock problem

[amy gilbert]

hi all, i don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but when i connect my 
iphone to my dock no audio comes out of the speakers, but when i connect my 
ipod nano to it it works fine. it charges absolutely fine on the dock, just no 
audio at all. i'm really hoping it's not my phone that's broken. has anyone got 
any ideas why it could be doing it? amy
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Re: applications key windows with vmware

[amy gilbert]

thanks
On 12 Dec 2012, at 00:04, "David Griffith"  wrote:

> Shift F10 
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> Sent: 11 December 2012 22:23
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> Subject: applications key windows with vmware
> 
> hi, does anyone know how to bring up context menus in vmware with the apple
> bluetooth keyboard? or do i have to use the apple extended keyboard to do
> it? amy
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Re: Get iPlayer Automator not downloading described shows

[amy gilbert]

thanks.
On 30 Nov 2012, at 13:07, michael weaver  wrote:

> vo plus left and right arows takes you to the parts of the screen in the 
> application.  when you vo right arrow you will hear toolbar when you are in 
> the right place.  vo plus down arrow to interact on the toolbar.  vo left and 
> right arrow takes you through the options on the toolbar when you have 
> interacted with it.  you should hear an option preferences button.  vo plus 
> space to open the preferences menu.  vo plus left and right arrow takes you 
> through each option in the preferences menu.  you should come across some 
> checkboxes in this menu with descriptions before them and you should hear 
> "audio description" when you left or right arrow through this menu.  when you 
> hear the words "audio description" vo plus right arrow to the next element 
> which is the checkbox for it and hit vo plus space and it will say "checked."
> hope this helps.
> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: amy gilbert > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:09:06 +
>> Subject: Re: Get iPlayer Automator not downloading described 
> shows
> 
>> hi, how do you check the audio description tickbox? i can't find 
> any button that says favourites in the toolbar
>> On 30 Nov 2012, at 11:03, michael weaver 
>  wrote:
> 
>>> find where it says toolbar, interact with it and use the 
> voiceover arrow keys, go to where it says favourites, and inside that menu 
> there are different options and checkboxes and audio description is mentioned 
> before an unchecked checkbox.  check it with vo space before you download 
> your tv eppisode.  this is how i found the audio description option.
>>> it will only download the audio description if it has been 
> provided with the programme.
>>> i have tried eppisodes of "sherlock holmes" and "heartbeat" and 
> found that ad hadn't been provided in the programmes even though i know that 
> ad has been transmitted with some of those eppisodes such as "the devil's 
> foot."
> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Orin >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Date sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:03:15 -0500
>>>> Subject: Get iPlayer Automator not downloading described shows
> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> For those that use Get iPlayer Automator to download BBC shows
>>> and have the audio described option checked to get that version, 
> how do you get the audio description? I downloaded the latest episode of The 
> Vampire Diaries, which I know is audio described on iTV.
>>>> Thanks.
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Re: iTunes 11, thoughts?

[amy gilbert]

hi, i've contacted the accessibility team before now and they've never got back 
to me, i wish apple had an accessibility team here in the UK
On 30 Nov 2012, at 10:44, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> Morning Chris,
> 
> A superb summary. Have you ever thought of passing this very information on 
> to Apple via the accessibility team?  It would probably be ignored but worth 
> it nonetheless in my view.
> 
> Dónal
> On 30 Nov 2012, at 09:38, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
>> Overall, iTunes 11 is certainly no worse than iTunes 10 on the Mac when it 
>> comes to accessibility.  However, Apple could do more to improve Voiceover 
>> support (I can't comment on Windows, as not tested it there yet).
>> 
>> The first item/button Voiceover lands on is the rewind button, and there is 
>> a play button and a next button.  So we have a rewind and a next button, so 
>> some people might be confused by the lack of a previous button or a forward 
>> button.  So perhaps the rewind and next buttons should be labelled as 
>> "previous/rewind button and a next/forward button.
>> 
>> The next item which puzzles me is the "iCloud button", what does this 
>> actually do? When pressing it with voiceover, it does not indicate if it is 
>> on or off or if anything has happened when it is pressed.
>> 
>> My next issue relates to the 7 radio buttons, the last radio button is read 
>> out as "Radio radio button 7 of 7".  Hearing the words Radio radio button is 
>> not exactly intuitive, and I am sure these buttons are actually tabs and not 
>> web page style radio buttons.  So would it not be better if Voiceover read 
>> out these 7 buttons as tabs? then the last tab could be read out as "Radio 
>> tab 7 of 7". Note: the iTunes store uses tabs, so replacing radio buttons 
>> with tabs would give iTunes 11 a more consistent look and feel when it comes 
>> to navigating with a screen reader.
>> 
>> Finally there is a iTunes Store button, I think it would be more intuitive 
>> if the button was read out as "Go to iTunes Store button"  Then when you are 
>> in the iTunes Store, the button is read out as "Go back to Library button", 
>> instead of "Library menu button".  Calling this a menu button gives the 
>> impression a menu is about to appear if you press it.  
>> 
>> After opening the iTunes Store I am greeted with a back and next button for 
>> the store navigation, then there are a series of menu buttons (as voiceover 
>> describes them) which are My iTunes Account, iTunes Store home menu button, 
>> Music menu button, Films menu button etc.  Would it not be better to have 
>> these menu buttons labelled as tabs? 
>> 
>> I also think the home page of the iTunes store is a bit of a mess for screen 
>> reader users. For starters the HTML does not follow W3C web accessibility 
>> guidelines when it comes to heading structure.  For example there are 
>> heading 3 items, and heading 5, but there are no heading 1 or 2.  It breaks 
>> accessibility when heading levels are skipped.
>> 
>> The document structure does not follow how it is laid out visually either.
>> 
>> The screen reader user hears the headings in the following sequence:
>> 
>> Heading 3 Music (this should be a heading 2, and there should be a heading 1 
>> prior to it labelled iTunes Store Home") 
>> 
>> Heading 3 Films (this should be a heading 2) 
>> 
>> TV programmes (this should be a heading 2) 
>> 
>> Heading 3 Apps (this should be a heading 2) 
>> 
>> Heading 3 Late Night Music on TV (should this not be listed under Music or 
>> under Feature?)
>> 
>> Heading 3 Genius Recommendations (should this not be a heading 2?) 
>> 
>> Heading 3 Books (should this not be a heading 2? 
>> 
>> Heading 3 Quick Links (should this not be a heading 2?)
>> 
>> Heading 3 Top Singles (should this not be a sub heading under Music? and the 
>> see all link appears to have gone) 
>> 
>> Heading 3 Top Albums  ((should this not be a sub heading under Music? and 
>> the see all link appears to have gone)
>> 
>> Heading 3 Top Films (should this not be listed under Films? see all has gone)
>> 
>> Heading 3 TOP TV (voiceover reads this as T O P instead of top, and should 
>> it not be listed as a sub heading under TV programmes? see all has gone)
>> 
>> Heading 3 Top Paid Apps (should this not be listed as a sub heading under 
>> Apps?)
>> 
>> Heading 3 Top Free Apps (should this not be a sub heading under Apps?)
>> 
>&

Re: Get iPlayer Automator not downloading described shows

[amy gilbert]

hi, how do you check the audio description tickbox? i can't find any button 
that says favourites in the toolbar
On 30 Nov 2012, at 11:03, michael weaver  wrote:

> find where it says toolbar, interact with it and use the voiceover arrow 
> keys, go to where it says favourites, and inside that menu there are 
> different options and checkboxes and audio description is mentioned before an 
> unchecked checkbox.  check it with vo space before you download your tv 
> eppisode.  this is how i found the audio description option.
> it will only download the audio description if it has been provided with the 
> programme.
> i have tried eppisodes of "sherlock holmes" and "heartbeat" and found that ad 
> hadn't been provided in the programmes even though i know that ad has been 
> transmitted with some of those eppisodes such as "the devil's foot."
> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Orin > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Date sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:03:15 -0500
>> Subject: Get iPlayer Automator not downloading described shows
> 
>> Hi all,
>> For those that use Get iPlayer Automator to download BBC shows 
> and have the audio described option checked to get that version, how do you 
> get the audio description? I downloaded the latest episode of The Vampire 
> Diaries, which I know is audio described on iTV.
>> Thanks.
>> Orin
>> orin8...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
>> Skype: orin1112
> 
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Re: iTunes 11, thoughts?

[amy gilbert]

hi chris, another annoying thing i've found in the store is that you have to 
interact with a song's group to play a preview of the song, where as before the 
button was visible.
On 30 Nov 2012, at 09:38, Chris Moore  wrote:

> Overall, iTunes 11 is certainly no worse than iTunes 10 on the Mac when it 
> comes to accessibility.  However, Apple could do more to improve Voiceover 
> support (I can't comment on Windows, as not tested it there yet).
> 
> The first item/button Voiceover lands on is the rewind button, and there is a 
> play button and a next button.  So we have a rewind and a next button, so 
> some people might be confused by the lack of a previous button or a forward 
> button.  So perhaps the rewind and next buttons should be labelled as 
> "previous/rewind button and a next/forward button.
> 
> The next item which puzzles me is the "iCloud button", what does this 
> actually do? When pressing it with voiceover, it does not indicate if it is 
> on or off or if anything has happened when it is pressed.
> 
> My next issue relates to the 7 radio buttons, the last radio button is read 
> out as "Radio radio button 7 of 7".  Hearing the words Radio radio button is 
> not exactly intuitive, and I am sure these buttons are actually tabs and not 
> web page style radio buttons.  So would it not be better if Voiceover read 
> out these 7 buttons as tabs? then the last tab could be read out as "Radio 
> tab 7 of 7". Note: the iTunes store uses tabs, so replacing radio buttons 
> with tabs would give iTunes 11 a more consistent look and feel when it comes 
> to navigating with a screen reader.
> 
> Finally there is a iTunes Store button, I think it would be more intuitive if 
> the button was read out as "Go to iTunes Store button"  Then when you are in 
> the iTunes Store, the button is read out as "Go back to Library button", 
> instead of "Library menu button".  Calling this a menu button gives the 
> impression a menu is about to appear if you press it.  
> 
> After opening the iTunes Store I am greeted with a back and next button for 
> the store navigation, then there are a series of menu buttons (as voiceover 
> describes them) which are My iTunes Account, iTunes Store home menu button, 
> Music menu button, Films menu button etc.  Would it not be better to have 
> these menu buttons labelled as tabs? 
> 
> I also think the home page of the iTunes store is a bit of a mess for screen 
> reader users. For starters the HTML does not follow W3C web accessibility 
> guidelines when it comes to heading structure.  For example there are heading 
> 3 items, and heading 5, but there are no heading 1 or 2.  It breaks 
> accessibility when heading levels are skipped.
> 
> The document structure does not follow how it is laid out visually either.
> 
> The screen reader user hears the headings in the following sequence:
> 
> Heading 3 Music (this should be a heading 2, and there should be a heading 1 
> prior to it labelled iTunes Store Home") 
> 
> Heading 3 Films (this should be a heading 2) 
> 
> TV programmes (this should be a heading 2) 
> 
> Heading 3 Apps (this should be a heading 2) 
> 
> Heading 3 Late Night Music on TV (should this not be listed under Music or 
> under Feature?)
> 
> Heading 3 Genius Recommendations (should this not be a heading 2?) 
> 
> Heading 3 Books (should this not be a heading 2? 
> 
> Heading 3 Quick Links (should this not be a heading 2?)
> 
> Heading 3 Top Singles (should this not be a sub heading under Music? and the 
> see all link appears to have gone) 
> 
> Heading 3 Top Albums  ((should this not be a sub heading under Music? and the 
> see all link appears to have gone)
> 
> Heading 3 Top Films (should this not be listed under Films? see all has gone)
> 
> Heading 3 TOP TV (voiceover reads this as T O P instead of top, and should it 
> not be listed as a sub heading under TV programmes? see all has gone)
> 
> Heading 3 Top Paid Apps (should this not be listed as a sub heading under 
> Apps?)
> 
> Heading 3 Top Free Apps (should this not be a sub heading under Apps?)
> 
> Heading 3 Top Books (Should this not be listed as a sub heading under Books?)
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> The above is just a few examples, if you work your way through the iTunes 
> store, you will find many other. I feel the order of the headings does not 
> match how the layout works visually.
> 
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>> hi all, i've got too many emails to check if there's already been a topic 
>> posted on this, but what do you all think of itunes 11? it's going to take 
>> me a while to g

Re: iTunes 11 for the mac.

[amy gilbert]

hi, it's really good, the new layout will take a bit of getting used to but 
it's fully accessible. i installed the windows itunes in my vm and i've noticed 
the itunes store isn't accessible with jaws am i right?
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> Accessibility? I've had a few fun issues on Windows with JFW which give me 
> pause. 
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posted on this, but what do you all think of itunes 11? it's going to take me a 
while to get used to the new layout, but the layout is better, more simplified, 
and it seems a bit more responsive or is that me? amy
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hi all, was wondering if there was a way you can turn the volume up and down in 
safari when you have audio playing? watching something on sky go and the audio 
is very quiet. amy
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Re: iTunes Question.

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what are active points and how do you set them up?
On 5 Nov 2012, at 17:02, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Hello!
> I have an active point created over the sources list, so I just press it and 
> jump from where ever I am.
> Best regards!
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>> What's the easiest way to return to the source list in iTunes?
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hi all, does anyone know of an accessibble ftp client? amy
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Re: decription tool for dvds

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hi, i didn't get it from the ap store i got it from the website. sorry for not 
replying sooner i get so many emails per day. amy
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> Amy
> 
> My apologies, I was forgetting that you bought your copy via the app store.  
> I never do if I can help it.
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> hi, it didn't download as a dmg it downloaded as a zip which automatically 
> extracted itself and the only file in there was the ap.
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>> No, I mean the disk image which you downloaded.  Sorry for the confusion.
>> 
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>> hi, do you mean i have to show package contents and look in there? i've just 
>> looked and i can't find it in there. amy
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>>> Amy
>>> 
>>> If you look int the DVD Remaster package, there is a little utility called 
>>> "Faremount".  Put that in your applications folder and run it when you run 
>>> DVD Remaster.  That will allow DVD Remaster to talk to VLC and it will 
>>> handle your encrypted videos.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: itunes problem

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thanks for this.
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> In iTunes under the view menu you will find video playback.  Press the right 
> arrow key and choose in iTunes Window.  This should solve your problem.
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>> What happens if you bring up the window chooser, vo f2 twice? I've never 
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>> that works.
>> 
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>>> and to get back to the normal itunes window i have to press escape to come 
>>> out of the show window it's very annoying, anyone know how to get back to 
>>> the normal window? cycle through windows doesn't seem to work much anymore 
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Re: itunes problem

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hi, nope that doesn't work.
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>> and to get back to the normal itunes window i have to press escape to come 
>> out of the show window it's very annoying, anyone know how to get back to 
>> the normal window? cycle through windows doesn't seem to work much anymore 
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itunes problem

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hi all, when i watch tv shows in itunes they come up in a separate window, and 
to get back to the normal itunes window i have to press escape to come out of 
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Re: decription tool for dvds

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hi, it didn't download as a dmg it downloaded as a zip which automatically 
extracted itself and the only file in there was the ap.
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> hi, do you mean i have to show package contents and look in there? i've just 
> looked and i can't find it in there. amy
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>> Amy
>> 
>> If you look int the DVD Remaster package, there is a little utility called 
>> "Faremount".  Put that in your applications folder and run it when you run 
>> DVD Remaster.  That will allow DVD Remaster to talk to VLC and it will 
>> handle your encrypted videos.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Gordon
>> 
>> On 28 Aug 2012, at 14:24, amy gilbert  
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>> hi all, dvd re-master won't work with incripted dvds i was wondering does 
>> anyone know of any accessible dvd decripters? amy
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Re: decription tool for dvds

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hi, do you mean i have to show package contents and look in there? i've just 
looked and i can't find it in there. amy
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> Amy
> 
> If you look int the DVD Remaster package, there is a little utility called 
> "Faremount".  Put that in your applications folder and run it when you run 
> DVD Remaster.  That will allow DVD Remaster to talk to VLC and it will handle 
> your encrypted videos.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 28 Aug 2012, at 14:24, amy gilbert  
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> hi all, dvd re-master won't work with incripted dvds i was wondering does 
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Re: decription tool for dvds

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thanks, it's great.
On 28 Aug 2012, at 15:02, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

> Hi.
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> Mac DVDripper pro (mdrp) from the same company as DVDremaster works.
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> Den Aug 28, 2012 kl. 3:24 PM skrev amy gilbert 
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>> hi all, dvd re-master won't work with incripted dvds i was wondering does 
>> anyone know of any accessible dvd decripters? amy
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Re: Amadeus was Re: Audio Hijack Pro

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hi yeah you can do that
On 28 Aug 2012, at 12:08, Chris  wrote:

> But what if you do not have a system audio session? Can you just create a new 
> session and set the input to system audio? I deleted the system audio session 
> thinking it was some kind of preset. Thanks!
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> Sent from my Windows laptop.
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> On 28/08/2012 05:13, amy gilbert wrote:
>> hi, i've been using audio hijack pro for the last year and i love it, i 
>> wanted to be able to record myself and record what voiceover was doing for a 
>> podcast that i never got done, heres how you do it.
>> make a new session using your built-in microphone as the imput. hijack that, 
>> just hijack it don't record with it. then go to your system audio session 
>> and start recording with it, and there you go. really useful when you want 
>> to show someone how to use voiceover. amy
>> On 27 Aug 2012, at 20:04, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Amadeus is pretty cool. Might purchase the Lite version in the future since 
>>> I just want to record, edit and convert audio files. Do not need multiple 
>>> tracks or the analysis tools.
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2012, at 21:50, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Exactly. I use it for everything from recording my syndicated content I 
>>>> air to demos to just recording skype calls I need to record like for 
>>>> documentation purposes. or to make comments on files in the middle of 
>>>> files. It's quite cool.
>>>> 
>>>> never used sound studio or what ever you called it but I use amadeus for 
>>>> my podcasting work like when I'm going to merge files and also to edit 
>>>> mp3s like when I digitize tapes.
>>>> 
>>>> Be blessed.
>>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Thomas McMahan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Uncheck the highjack in the tool bar.  For some things it is a great app. 
>>>>>  For just recording though there are several apps.  For simple recording 
>>>>> from the mike there is an ap call audio recorder.  It's been a long time 
>>>>> since I've checked their website though so don't know if it works with 
>>>>> lion or m l.  Never used it with either, but it is free and doesn't have 
>>>>> time limits as the trial version of A H does.  Of course the limit on 
>>>>> audio highjack is that it will impose white noise on what you are doing.  
>>>>> If you had paid for the app then it would be kind of dumb to just push it 
>>>>> over to the side, especially when it can be used to record streaming and 
>>>>> stuff like that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You just have to remember to turn highjacking off thats all when you have 
>>>>> a live mike going.  Amadeus can also record, don't know if you use that 
>>>>> app or not and I would presume sound studio can too, bot of which seem to 
>>>>> be good apps.  But Audio Highjack is a neat app to have, just gotta learn 
>>>>> it like anything else.
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 7:05 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>> I am trying to record audio from my audio input. When I do this in Audio 
>>>>>> Hijack Pro, the audio is not only being recorded; it is also being 
>>>>>> hijacked, causing excessive feedback. Do I really need this app, or are 
>>>>>> there apps out there to capture audio from either an application and or 
>>>>>> audio input without the excessive feedback caused by hijacking. If so, 
>>>>>> can it record in the MP3 format so it can be distributed on the web?
>>>>>> I have heard of Wiretap, should I try this?
>>>>>> Thanks for any help regarding this.
>>>>>> Chris.
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Re: Amadeus was Re: Audio Hijack Pro

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hi, i've been using audio hijack pro for the last year and i love it, i wanted 
to be able to record myself and record what voiceover was doing for a podcast 
that i never got done, heres how you do it.
make a new session using your built-in microphone as the imput. hijack that, 
just hijack it don't record with it. then go to your system audio session and 
start recording with it, and there you go. really useful when you want to show 
someone how to use voiceover. amy
On 27 Aug 2012, at 20:04, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

> Amadeus is pretty cool. Might purchase the Lite version in the future since I 
> just want to record, edit and convert audio files. Do not need multiple 
> tracks or the analysis tools.
> Sent from my mac
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 Aug 2012, at 21:50, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Exactly. I use it for everything from recording my syndicated content I air 
>> to demos to just recording skype calls I need to record like for 
>> documentation purposes. or to make comments on files in the middle of files. 
>> It's quite cool.
>> 
>> never used sound studio or what ever you called it but I use amadeus for my 
>> podcasting work like when I'm going to merge files and also to edit mp3s 
>> like when I digitize tapes.
>> 
>> Be blessed.
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Thomas McMahan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Uncheck the highjack in the tool bar.  For some things it is a great app.  
>>> For just recording though there are several apps.  For simple recording 
>>> from the mike there is an ap call audio recorder.  It's been a long time 
>>> since I've checked their website though so don't know if it works with lion 
>>> or m l.  Never used it with either, but it is free and doesn't have time 
>>> limits as the trial version of A H does.  Of course the limit on audio 
>>> highjack is that it will impose white noise on what you are doing.  If you 
>>> had paid for the app then it would be kind of dumb to just push it over to 
>>> the side, especially when it can be used to record streaming and stuff like 
>>> that.  
>>> 
>>> You just have to remember to turn highjacking off thats all when you have a 
>>> live mike going.  Amadeus can also record, don't know if you use that app 
>>> or not and I would presume sound studio can too, bot of which seem to be 
>>> good apps.  But Audio Highjack is a neat app to have, just gotta learn it 
>>> like anything else.  
>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 7:05 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all.
 I am trying to record audio from my audio input. When I do this in Audio 
 Hijack Pro, the audio is not only being recorded; it is also being 
 hijacked, causing excessive feedback. Do I really need this app, or are 
 there apps out there to capture audio from either an application and or 
 audio input without the excessive feedback caused by hijacking. If so, can 
 it record in the MP3 format so it can be distributed on the web?
 I have heard of Wiretap, should I try this?
 Thanks for any help regarding this.
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Re: Free Os10 audio converter

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hi, i was just wondering if dvd re-master converted to anymore audio formats 
apart from wav? or do you have to buy it to enable more formats? amy
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> I was asked about an accessible free audio converter for os10. As I payed for 
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Re: video to audio converter?

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that convert avi files to audio? amy
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> hi gordon i've got it now, i've added my dvd titles to the cue and when i 
> click on run cue it says i need to keep at least one program, what does that 
> mean?
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>> Handbrake!  Sorry about the stupid pun. :)
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Re: video to audio converter?

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hi gordon, i've managed to sort it now. thanks for your help. amy 
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> hi gordon i've got it now, i've added my dvd titles to the cue and when i 
> click on run cue it says i need to keep at least one program, what does that 
> mean?
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>> Handbrake!  Sorry about the stupid pun. :)
>> 
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Re: video to audio converter?

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hi gordon i've got it now, i've added my dvd titles to the cue and when i click 
on run cue it says i need to keep at least one program, what does that mean?
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Re: video to audio converter?

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haha very good pun, so with dvd remaster is it completely accessible? and i 
take it it converts both dvds and single video files? amy 
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just thought i'd say hi

[amy gilbert]

hi all, sending a message again hope it gets through. just thought i'd 
introduce myself i'm new to the list and i've been using a mac for nearly 2 
years and it's my main machine. i'd never go back to using windows unless i 
really had to. i'll probably be posting quite a bit. i'm happy to  help people 
with their mac or IOS problems. amy
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