Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-02 Thread Gordon Smith
Phil

Just ask anybody who has bought from Mac Access whether it is fraud with 
problems.  If their experience was painful we would like to know about it.  
When you buy from us you get your books from us, via a totally accessible 
bookshelf.  I guess you haven't researched this experience too well, but it's 
why we ask people who buy from us to please post feedback to the list so that 
the other members may benefit.

Gordon

On 1 Nov 2012, at 15:19, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

I look forward to seeing this catalog. I would like to buy and read some of 
these take control books, but the means of buying and recieving them seems 
fraut with problems. It's probably just my perception, but all I want is to be 
able to buy the book, download it to my machine and read it like any other PDF, 
either with VO or another screen reader on that other OS.
My impression is that buying it is difficult, and getting it in your hands is 
even more so - something about having to store the books on the seller's rather 
inaccessible bookshelf system and read it from there? That probably isn't 
right, but its the impression I got somehow.

Make the procedure simple enough for even someone like me and it'll sell like 
hotcakes!

- Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
ly...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:21 AM
Subject: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue


 Hello everybody
 
 I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
 producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
 publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and independent 
 VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The document has been 
 passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate with any 
 screen-reader, especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected not to do, at 
 least in the first version of this catalogue, is to provide you with links to 
 the books on the TC website. This is just a catalogue outlining the book 
 title, release date, number of pages, price pre-discount and price 
 post-discount. I hope that will suffice for the time being. I have put a 
 great deal of work into this so I really hope some people do find it helpful.
 
 Lynne
 
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Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-02 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Phil

No offence taken. :) I just wanted you to be aware that there is an alternative 
to all the inaccessible stuff.  Mac Access have gone out of our way to make 
this process easy and accessible, not to mention affordable to everybody.  If 
you read Lynne's catalogue, http://www.mac-access.net/Take-Control.html you 
will probably become more aware of what we have to offer.

On 1 Nov 2012, at 22:19, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

No offense intended, I just remember some list chatter about having trouble 
with the accessibility of the TC books. This is why I asked.

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Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-02 Thread Phil Halton

I guess I don't know what a bookshelf is.
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue



Phil

Just ask anybody who has bought from Mac Access whether it is fraud with 
problems.  If their experience was painful we would like to know about it. 
When you buy from us you get your books from us, via a totally accessible 
bookshelf.  I guess you haven't researched this experience too well, but 
it's why we ask people who buy from us to please post feedback to the list 
so that the other members may benefit.


Gordon

On 1 Nov 2012, at 15:19, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

I look forward to seeing this catalog. I would like to buy and read some 
of these take control books, but the means of buying and recieving them 
seems fraut with problems. It's probably just my perception, but all I 
want is to be able to buy the book, download it to my machine and read it 
like any other PDF, either with VO or another screen reader on that other 
OS.
My impression is that buying it is difficult, and getting it in your hands 
is even more so - something about having to store the books on the 
seller's rather inaccessible bookshelf system and read it from there? That 
probably isn't right, but its the impression I got somehow.


Make the procedure simple enough for even someone like me and it'll sell 
like hotcakes!


- Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
ly...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:21 AM
Subject: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue



Hello everybody

I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and 
independent VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The 
document has been passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate 
with any screen-reader, especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected 
not to do, at least in the first version of this catalogue, is to provide 
you with links to the books on the TC website. This is just a catalogue 
outlining the book title, release date, number of pages, price 
pre-discount and price post-discount. I hope that will suffice for the 
time being. I have put a great deal of work into this so I really hope 
some people do find it helpful.


Lynne

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Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-02 Thread Gordon Smith
In this context, a Bookshelf is merely a page or directory where their books 
are stored on our server.  They log in, download their books and are usually, 
or actually I am proud to be able to say, always happy.  Since we started this 
project in August 2010, we have never had a dissatisfied customer.

When you log into our server, all you have is a very accessible and intuitive 
interface which allows you to either in the singular or in bulk, download your 
books.  The server can email your password if you lose it, and it uses the very 
latest in SSL encryption to protect your data.

If anybody else wants to comment, feel free.  But I am happy to let my product 
do the talking.  I would be happy to set up a demo account if anybody needs to 
see proof of accessibility.

Gordon

On 2 Nov 2012, at 18:51, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

I guess I don't know what a bookshelf is.
- Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue


 Phil
 
 Just ask anybody who has bought from Mac Access whether it is fraud with 
 problems.  If their experience was painful we would like to know about it. 
 When you buy from us you get your books from us, via a totally accessible 
 bookshelf.  I guess you haven't researched this experience too well, but it's 
 why we ask people who buy from us to please post feedback to the list so that 
 the other members may benefit.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 1 Nov 2012, at 15:19, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I look forward to seeing this catalog. I would like to buy and read some of 
 these take control books, but the means of buying and recieving them seems 
 fraut with problems. It's probably just my perception, but all I want is to 
 be able to buy the book, download it to my machine and read it like any other 
 PDF, either with VO or another screen reader on that other OS.
 My impression is that buying it is difficult, and getting it in your hands is 
 even more so - something about having to store the books on the seller's 
 rather inaccessible bookshelf system and read it from there? That probably 
 isn't right, but its the impression I got somehow.
 
 Make the procedure simple enough for even someone like me and it'll sell like 
 hotcakes!
 
 - Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
 ly...@mac-access.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:21 AM
 Subject: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue
 
 
 Hello everybody
 
 I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
 producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
 publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and independent 
 VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The document has been 
 passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate with any 
 screen-reader, especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected not to do, at 
 least in the first version of this catalogue, is to provide you with links 
 to the books on the TC website. This is just a catalogue outlining the book 
 title, release date, number of pages, price pre-discount and price 
 post-discount. I hope that will suffice for the time being. I have put a 
 great deal of work into this so I really hope some people do find it helpful.
 
 Lynne
 
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Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-01 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello everybody

I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and independent 
VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The document has been 
passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate with any screen-reader, 
especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected not to do, at least in the first 
version of this catalogue, is to provide you with links to the books on the TC 
website. This is just a catalogue outlining the book title, release date, 
number of pages, price pre-discount and price post-discount. I hope that will 
suffice for the time being. I have put a great deal of work into this so I 
really hope some people do find it helpful.

Lynne

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Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-01 Thread Phil Halton
I look forward to seeing this catalog. I would like to buy and read some of 
these take control books, but the means of buying and recieving them seems 
fraut with problems. It's probably just my perception, but all I want is to 
be able to buy the book, download it to my machine and read it like any 
other PDF, either with VO or another screen reader on that other OS.
My impression is that buying it is difficult, and getting it in your hands 
is even more so - something about having to store the books on the seller's 
rather inaccessible bookshelf system and read it from there? That probably 
isn't right, but its the impression I got somehow.


Make the procedure simple enough for even someone like me and it'll sell 
like hotcakes!


- Original Message - 
From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:21 AM
Subject: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue



Hello everybody

I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and 
independent VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The 
document has been passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate 
with any screen-reader, especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected not 
to do, at least in the first version of this catalogue, is to provide you 
with links to the books on the TC website. This is just a catalogue 
outlining the book title, release date, number of pages, price 
pre-discount and price post-discount. I hope that will suffice for the 
time being. I have put a great deal of work into this so I really hope 
some people do find it helpful.


Lynne

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Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-01 Thread Gordon Lynne
You have a very misguided or missinformed impression of what we have to offer. 
If you look at the catalogue you will understand that you do not download the 
books or buy them from the TC website, you buy them them from us.  You also get 
an 80 percent discount, and you download them from outr accessible bookshelf.  
So, I am sorry, but just ask anybody who uses our service whether they find 
them inaccessible.  If they do I would like to know about it.


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On 1 Nov 2012, at 15:19, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

I look forward to seeing this catalog. I would like to buy and read some of 
these take control books, but the means of buying and recieving them seems 
fraut with problems. It's probably just my perception, but all I want is to be 
able to buy the book, download it to my machine and read it like any other PDF, 
either with VO or another screen reader on that other OS.
My impression is that buying it is difficult, and getting it in your hands is 
even more so - something about having to store the books on the seller's rather 
inaccessible bookshelf system and read it from there? That probably isn't 
right, but its the impression I got somehow.

Make the procedure simple enough for even someone like me and it'll sell like 
hotcakes!

- Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
ly...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:21 AM
Subject: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue


 Hello everybody
 
 I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
 producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
 publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and independent 
 VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The document has been 
 passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate with any 
 screen-reader, especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected not to do, at 
 least in the first version of this catalogue, is to provide you with links to 
 the books on the TC website. This is just a catalogue outlining the book 
 title, release date, number of pages, price pre-discount and price 
 post-discount. I hope that will suffice for the time being. I have put a 
 great deal of work into this so I really hope some people do find it helpful.
 
 Lynne
 
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Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue

2012-11-01 Thread Phil Halton
No offense intended, I just remember some list chatter about having trouble 
with the accessibility of the TC books. This is why I asked.


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To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue


You have a very misguided or missinformed impression of what we have to 
offer. If you look at the catalogue you will understand that you do not 
download the books or buy them from the TC website, you buy them them from 
us.  You also get an 80 percent discount, and you download them from outr 
accessible bookshelf.  So, I am sorry, but just ask anybody who uses our 
service whether they find them inaccessible.  If they do I would like to 
know about it.



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On 1 Nov 2012, at 15:19, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

I look forward to seeing this catalog. I would like to buy and read some 
of these take control books, but the means of buying and recieving them 
seems fraut with problems. It's probably just my perception, but all I 
want is to be able to buy the book, download it to my machine and read it 
like any other PDF, either with VO or another screen reader on that other 
OS.
My impression is that buying it is difficult, and getting it in your hands 
is even more so - something about having to store the books on the 
seller's rather inaccessible bookshelf system and read it from there? That 
probably isn't right, but its the impression I got somehow.


Make the procedure simple enough for even someone like me and it'll sell 
like hotcakes!


- Original Message - From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
ly...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:21 AM
Subject: Accessible Version Of Take Control Catalogue



Hello everybody

I am pleased to be able to repot that I am now at an advanced stage of 
producing an accessible and complete catalogue of the Take Control 
publications. This catalogue has been tested by an external and 
independent VoiceOver user whose judgement we know to be sound. The 
document has been passed as totally accessible and very easy to navigate 
with any screen-reader, especially VoiceOver. The only thing I elected 
not to do, at least in the first version of this catalogue, is to provide 
you with links to the books on the TC website. This is just a catalogue 
outlining the book title, release date, number of pages, price 
pre-discount and price post-discount. I hope that will suffice for the 
time being. I have put a great deal of work into this so I really hope 
some people do find it helpful.


Lynne

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