Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Dan Eickmeier]

Yeah, I just used CCC to create mine, and that worked nicely.  
On 2012-08-04, at 4:59 AM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button 
> includes an option to create a Mountain Lion disk.
> 
> BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to 
> make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation 
> disk for my SD card via Disk Utility.  It was very easy and straight forward 
> using Carbon Copy  Cloner.
> 
> Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Sarah Alawami 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM
>  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.
> 
> 
>  Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't 
> have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do 
> I do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.
> 
>  Take care.
>  On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the "Partition" tab in Disk 
>> Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
>> being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the "Partition" tab 
>> and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the 
>> process, rather than to use the "Erase" tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD 
>> media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs 
>> can read these formats. 
>> 
>> The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you 
>> not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., "Mac OS Extended, 
>> Journaled"), but that you're using a "GUID Partition table" (for an Intel 
>> Mac) vs. an "Apple Partition map" (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device 
>> that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a "Master Boot Record" for 
>> devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require 
>> DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions.  
>> 
>> In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
>> by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
>> "Current" to "1 partition" (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
>> name, format, and size to your partition and press the "Options" button to 
>> select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  
>> These changes take effect when you click "Apply".
>> 
>> I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to "Create a 
>> Mountain Lion Installer", which takes care of all the selection options 
>> automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as 
>> the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this 
>> preparation and the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the 
>> drive manually as I described by using the "Partition" tab of Disk Utility 
>> instead of the "Erase" tab.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Geoff
>>> 
>>> If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a "Partition" tab.  
>>> There is an "Options" button just before the two cancel and "OK" buttons.  
>>> Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
>>> table just select the "Guide" partition type radio button and click OK.  
>>> Then, click "Apply" and then click "Partition".  Your partition will then 
>>> be created.
>>> 
>>> Gordon
>>> 
>>> On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
>>> 
>>> I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
>>> apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
>>> connected media.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify "guide" as a partition type 
>>> in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided 
>>> that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's "restore" dialog is 
>>> inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired 
>>> media to th

Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Sarah,

In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button includes 
an option to create a Mountain Lion disk.

BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to 
make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation 
disk for my SD card via Disk Utility.  It was very easy and straight forward 
using Carbon Copy  Cloner.

Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sarah Alawami 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


  Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't 
have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I 
do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.

  Take care.
  On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther  wrote:

  > Hi Geoff,
  > 
  > Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the "Partition" tab in 
Disk Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the "Partition" tab and 
create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, 
rather than to use the "Erase" tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD media card 
come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these 
formats. 
  > 
  > The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, 
you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., "Mac OS Extended, 
Journaled"), but that you're using a "GUID Partition table" (for an Intel Mac) 
vs. an "Apple Partition map" (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is 
not being used as a startup device) vs. a "Master Boot Record" for devices used 
to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or 
Windows-compatible partitions.  
  > 
  > In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
"Current" to "1 partition" (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
name, format, and size to your partition and press the "Options" button to 
select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  These 
changes take effect when you click "Apply".
  > 
  > I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to "Create a 
Mountain Lion Installer", which takes care of all the selection options 
automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the 
default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and 
the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I 
described by using the "Partition" tab of Disk Utility instead of the "Erase" 
tab.
  > 
  > HTH.  Cheers,
  > 
  > Esther
  > 
  > On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
  > 
  >> Hi Geoff
  >> 
  >> If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a "Partition" tab.  
There is an "Options" button just before the two cancel and "OK" buttons.  
Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
table just select the "Guide" partition type radio button and click OK.  Then, 
click "Apply" and then click "Partition".  Your partition will then be created.
  >> 
  >> Gordon
  >> 
  >> On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
  >> 
  >> Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
  >> 
  >> I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.
  >> 
  >> Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify "guide" as a partition 
type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I 
decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's "restore" dialog is 
inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media 
to the target field.  I tried opening the "InstallESD.dmg" file and selecting 
the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
  >> 
  >> I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
  >> 
  >> Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
  >> Geoff
  >> 
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Sarah Alawami]

Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't have 
the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I do 
this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.

Take care.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> 
> Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the "Partition" tab in Disk 
> Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
> being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the "Partition" tab 
> and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the 
> process, rather than to use the "Erase" tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD 
> media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs 
> can read these formats. 
> 
> The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you 
> not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., "Mac OS Extended, 
> Journaled"), but that you're using a "GUID Partition table" (for an Intel 
> Mac) vs. an "Apple Partition map" (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device 
> that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a "Master Boot Record" for 
> devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- 
> or Windows-compatible partitions.  
> 
> In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
> by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
> "Current" to "1 partition" (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
> name, format, and size to your partition and press the "Options" button to 
> select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  
> These changes take effect when you click "Apply".
> 
> I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to "Create a 
> Mountain Lion Installer", which takes care of all the selection options 
> automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as 
> the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this 
> preparation and the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the 
> drive manually as I described by using the "Partition" tab of Disk Utility 
> instead of the "Erase" tab.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff
>> 
>> If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a "Partition" tab.  
>> There is an "Options" button just before the two cancel and "OK" buttons.  
>> Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
>> table just select the "Guide" partition type radio button and click OK.  
>> Then, click "Apply" and then click "Partition".  Your partition will then be 
>> created.
>> 
>> Gordon
>> 
>> On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
>> 
>> I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
>> apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
>> connected media.
>> 
>> Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify "guide" as a partition type 
>> in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided 
>> that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's "restore" dialog is 
>> inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired 
>> media to the target field.  I tried opening the "InstallESD.dmg" file and 
>> selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
>> 
>> I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
>> properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
>> recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
>> 
>> Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
>> Geoff
>> 
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Esther]

Hi Geoff,

Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the "Partition" tab in Disk 
Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the "Partition" tab and 
create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, 
rather than to use the "Erase" tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD media card 
come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these 
formats. 

The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you 
not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., "Mac OS Extended, 
Journaled"), but that you're using a "GUID Partition table" (for an Intel Mac) 
vs. an "Apple Partition map" (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is 
not being used as a startup device) vs. a "Master Boot Record" for devices used 
to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or 
Windows-compatible partitions.  

In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by 
changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
"Current" to "1 partition" (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
name, format, and size to your partition and press the "Options" button to 
select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  These 
changes take effect when you click "Apply".

I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to "Create a 
Mountain Lion Installer", which takes care of all the selection options 
automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the 
default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and 
the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I 
described by using the "Partition" tab of Disk Utility instead of the "Erase" 
tab.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi Geoff
> 
> If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a "Partition" tab.  
> There is an "Options" button just before the two cancel and "OK" buttons.  
> Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
> table just select the "Guide" partition type radio button and click OK.  
> Then, click "Apply" and then click "Partition".  Your partition will then be 
> created.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
> 
> I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
> apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
> connected media.
> 
> Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify "guide" as a partition type 
> in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided 
> that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's "restore" dialog is 
> inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired 
> media to the target field.  I tried opening the "InstallESD.dmg" file and 
> selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
> 
> I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
> properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
> recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
> 
> Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
> Geoff
> 

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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Geoff

If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a "Partition" tab.  There 
is an "Options" button just before the two cancel and "OK" buttons.  Pressing 
that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that table just 
select the "Guide" partition type radio button and click OK.  Then, click 
"Apply" and then click "Partition".  Your partition will then be created.

Gordon

On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

Hi Esther, Gordon and others,

I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.

Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify "guide" as a partition type in 
the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided that 
as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's "restore" dialog is inaccessible 
for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the 
target field.  I tried opening the "InstallESD.dmg" file and selecting the 
resulting mounted volume, to no avail.

I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.

Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
Geoff

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gordon Smith 
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


 Hi Geoff

 Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

 Gordon

 On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

 I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

 Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected "macOS 
journaled".  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets 
weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but 
then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the 
target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the 
SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

 Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
app that Sarah mentioned?

 TIA and best regards.
 Geoff
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Esther, Gordon and others,

I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.

Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify "guide" as a partition type in 
the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided that 
as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's "restore" dialog is inaccessible 
for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the 
target field.  I tried opening the "InstallESD.dmg" file and selecting the 
resulting mounted volume, to no avail.

I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.

Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


  Hi Geoff

  Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

  Gordon

  On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

  I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

  Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected "macOS 
journaled".  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets 
weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but 
then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the 
target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the 
SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

  Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
app that Sarah mentioned?

  TIA and best regards.
  Geoff
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Gordon Smith]

Hi Geoff

Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

Gordon

On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

I copied the "InstallESD.dmg" file to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected "macOS journaled". 
 All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 7.8 GB 
partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets weird.  
I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but then when 
I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the target 
remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the SD 
partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker app 
that Sarah mentioned?

TIA and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Esther]

Hi Geoff and Others,

Here's the link to Dan Frakes' Macworld article, "How to make a bootable 
Mountain Lion install drive". (Use Safari reader with Command-Shift-R to read 
the article):
http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html

I don't think method 1 with disk utility is accessible, but method 2 using 
Carbon Copy Cloner should be.  (And even though CCC is now $39.99 or $29.99 
through till August 12, you can still download it as a fully functioning free 
trial).  Interestingly, in the comments the author said, "SuperDuper will work 
for cloning a hard drive, but it's not the right tool for making a bootable 
install drive.  The three tools mentioned i nthe article are your best choices."

HTH. Cheers,

Esther
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

[Esther]

Hi Geoff, 

Did you format the SD card as GUID?  I think that's necessary, although I 
haven't gone through these steps.  There's also a way to create a bootable 
image that used Carbon Copy Cloner that I can dig out,

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I copied the "InstallESD.dmg" file to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.
> 
> Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected "macOS 
> journaled".  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
> 7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it 
> gets weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source 
> field, but then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target 
> field, the target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the 
> name of the SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that 
> I'm missing a step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine 
> when I was creating the Lion DVD.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
> app that Sarah mentioned?
> 
> TIA and best regards.
> Geoff

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