Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if there is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. Alternatively you can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double tap to perform this action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing there is text on the clipboard. On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Hi Chris, I forgot about the rota and edit. This now works fine. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 10 Jan 2012, at 17:34, chris hallsworth wrote: Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if there is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. Alternatively you can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double tap to perform this action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing there is text on the clipboard. On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibil...@apple.com and see what they say. I did both. lol! On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access
RE: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Just use the BT keyboard! Sign, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:54 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibil...@apple.com and see what they say. I did both. lol! On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
I mant for those of us wiht out bt keyboards. There's got to be a better way to do it with 1 finger like the way I suggested to apple. lol! Take care all. On Jan 10, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Bubba wrote: Just use the BT keyboard! Sign, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:54 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibil...@apple.com and see what they say. I did both. lol! On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac
Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
Hi Colin, Before posting, I tested IOS 5.01, and can confirm that your statement is false. As stated previously, it is only possible to extract a portion of text while in edit mode. Otherwise, the only available option is the method I described -- IE Edit - copy/paste into an edit field before extraction via pinch gesture. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on edit, flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the F in For, but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to words would likely cause the words for a good to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: good selected. So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: For a good time call. If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word time I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to edit, flicking down to either cut or copy and double tapping. Either via cut or pressing del, those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: 867-5309 and ask for Jenny. Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: Jenny selected, press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus
