New to list and seeking some guidance on the new Mac book air I have just purchased

2014-04-27 Thread Mark 


Hello, I am new to this list. It was recommended to me by, someone on an iOS 
blind listserv. I have just taken the plunge, and moving from a PC computer, to 
the Mac book air. I have taken the tutorial on voice over. It explained some of 
the key commands that would be very helpful. 

I am finding that my first frustration, or challenge, is to navigate the web. 
Using Safari, and using the limited voiceover commands that I learned in the 
tutorial, has proven not very helpful. I have a tendency, to not know where I 
am navigating too, how to get out of a window, close the window, go back where 
I was, or simply delete something.

I realize there is a lot to learn. And one email, is not going to solve all of 
my challenges. So, could people reply with what they feel, would be the top 
four or five key commands I should know to navigate in a web environment. Using 
Safari. Or recommendations for other web browsers? It will be a wonderful 
place, to start. Thank you

Mark
Seattle 

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Re: New to list and seeking some guidance on the new Mac book air I have just purchased

2014-04-27 Thread JAKE JOEHL 
Hi Mark and welcome aboard. I am rather new to the Mac too. I just got my Mac 
Book Air after Christmas, and love it. To open a website in Safari, press 
Command L and then type in the URL. When Safari is first launched though you 
will automatically be placed in the address bar. To exit a website hit Command 
W, and to close out of Safari altogether Command Q. AppleVis is probably where 
you want to look first for training. Go to www.applevis.com . I’ve also found 
Google Chrome to be a great browser, and Chromevox is very good. Google Chrome 
works almost the same as Safari. Hth.
Jake
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On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Mark  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello, I am new to this list. It was recommended to me by, someone on an iOS 
> blind listserv. I have just taken the plunge, and moving from a PC computer, 
> to the Mac book air. I have taken the tutorial on voice over. It explained 
> some of the key commands that would be very helpful. 
> 
> I am finding that my first frustration, or challenge, is to navigate the web. 
> Using Safari, and using the limited voiceover commands that I learned in the 
> tutorial, has proven not very helpful. I have a tendency, to not know where I 
> am navigating too, how to get out of a window, close the window, go back 
> where I was, or simply delete something.
> 
> I realize there is a lot to learn. And one email, is not going to solve all 
> of my challenges. So, could people reply with what they feel, would be the 
> top four or five key commands I should know to navigate in a web environment. 
> Using Safari. Or recommendations for other web browsers? It will be a 
> wonderful place, to start. Thank you
> 
> Mark
> Seattle 
> 
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Re: New to list and seeking some guidance on the new Mac book air I have just purchased

2014-04-27 Thread Mark 
Jake, thanks for the suggestions. I will try them. Do you mind if I ask more 
questions later? There seems to be well, much to learn. :-)

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On Apr 27, 2014, at 10:15 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

Hi Mark and welcome aboard. I am rather new to the Mac too. I just got my Mac 
Book Air after Christmas, and love it. To open a website in Safari, press 
Command L and then type in the URL. When Safari is first launched though you 
will automatically be placed in the address bar. To exit a website hit Command 
W, and to close out of Safari altogether Command Q. AppleVis is probably where 
you want to look first for training. Go to www.applevis.com . I’ve also found 
Google Chrome to be a great browser, and Chromevox is very good. Google Chrome 
works almost the same as Safari. Hth.
Jake
JAKE JOEHL
jajo...@att.net



> On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Mark  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, I am new to this list. It was recommended to me by, someone on an iOS 
> blind listserv. I have just taken the plunge, and moving from a PC computer, 
> to the Mac book air. I have taken the tutorial on voice over. It explained 
> some of the key commands that would be very helpful. 
> 
> I am finding that my first frustration, or challenge, is to navigate the web. 
> Using Safari, and using the limited voiceover commands that I learned in the 
> tutorial, has proven not very helpful. I have a tendency, to not know where I 
> am navigating too, how to get out of a window, close the window, go back 
> where I was, or simply delete something.
> 
> I realize there is a lot to learn. And one email, is not going to solve all 
> of my challenges. So, could people reply with what they feel, would be the 
> top four or five key commands I should know to navigate in a web environment. 
> Using Safari. Or recommendations for other web browsers? It will be a 
> wonderful place, to start. Thank you
> 
> Mark
> Seattle 
> 
> YSent from my iPhone
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Re: New to list and seeking some guidance on the new Mac book air I have just purchased

2014-04-27 Thread Juaanita Marttin 
Also, you can explore the Air’s keyboard with a VO k combination.  The key on 
the bottom row left is the function key.  The key to the right of that is the 
control key.  The key to the right of that is the option key.  Pressing control 
and option keys together make up the “Vo” keys.

On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Mark  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello, I am new to this list. It was recommended to me by, someone on an iOS 
> blind listserv. I have just taken the plunge, and moving from a PC computer, 
> to the Mac book air. I have taken the tutorial on voice over. It explained 
> some of the key commands that would be very helpful. 
> 
> I am finding that my first frustration, or challenge, is to navigate the web. 
> Using Safari, and using the limited voiceover commands that I learned in the 
> tutorial, has proven not very helpful. I have a tendency, to not know where I 
> am navigating too, how to get out of a window, close the window, go back 
> where I was, or simply delete something.
> 
> I realize there is a lot to learn. And one email, is not going to solve all 
> of my challenges. So, could people reply with what they feel, would be the 
> top four or five key commands I should know to navigate in a web environment. 
> Using Safari. Or recommendations for other web browsers? It will be a 
> wonderful place, to start. Thank you
> 
> Mark
> Seattle 
> 
> YSent from my iPhone
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> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
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Re: New to list and seeking some guidance on the new Mac book air I have just purchased

2014-04-27 Thread Phil Halton 
Your greatest friend for some time will be the VoiceOver help menu, accessed by 
pressing Control-Option H. Keyboard help is similar  to keyboard help mode in 
JAWS on the PC, and the Quick start guide at the bottom of the help menu is the 
VoiceOver users manual. The users manual is an HTML system that you read in 
Safari, so it’ll help you  get used to working in Safari just by reading the 
excellent manual.
I strongly suggest you read it thoroughly, then read it again… and again… until 
you feel like you know VoiceOver inside and out. It’s your screen reader, so it 
makes sense to get to know all its features as soon as possible.

Good luck and happy reading.

On Apr 27, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Mark  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello, I am new to this list. It was recommended to me by, someone on an iOS 
> blind listserv. I have just taken the plunge, and moving from a PC computer, 
> to the Mac book air. I have taken the tutorial on voice over. It explained 
> some of the key commands that would be very helpful. 
> 
> I am finding that my first frustration, or challenge, is to navigate the web. 
> Using Safari, and using the limited voiceover commands that I learned in the 
> tutorial, has proven not very helpful. I have a tendency, to not know where I 
> am navigating too, how to get out of a window, close the window, go back 
> where I was, or simply delete something.
> 
> I realize there is a lot to learn. And one email, is not going to solve all 
> of my challenges. So, could people reply with what they feel, would be the 
> top four or five key commands I should know to navigate in a web environment. 
> Using Safari. Or recommendations for other web browsers? It will be a 
> wonderful place, to start. Thank you
> 
> Mark
> Seattle 
> 
> YSent from my iPhone
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> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
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