Re: [Mac-access]: Should I be scared of Yosemite?

2015-01-22 Thread Sarah k Alawami 
Agreed. I love yosemite and it just keeps getting better and better. I say 
don't be scared, just back up with time machine and upgrade, then do a clean 
install after backing up. This clears out any crap from the prior os whilst 
leaving yoru settings intact. 

Take care. 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 12:50 PM, christopher hallsworth 
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> Hi all the nice thing about OS X so far is that there is not much of a 
> learning curve if at all with each update. Of course things will change and 
> there will be new features but overall the interface will be no different. 
> Try that with Windows .
>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 11:35, Ian Harrison 
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>> Dear listers.
>> I am thinking of buying a new mac mini. My old one currently runs Mountain 
>> Lion. I am used to the software, but the machine is starting to die. Buying 
>> a new one means I have to go to Yosemite. Can I have some opinions on the 
>> learning curve and relative benefits, please.
>> 
>> Grateful
>> Ian  
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Re: [Mac-access]: Should I be scared of Yosemite?

2015-01-22 Thread christopher hallsworth 
Hi all the nice thing about OS X so far is that there is not much of a learning 
curve if at all with each update. Of course things will change and there will 
be new features but overall the interface will be no different. Try that with 
Windows .
> On 22 Jan 2015, at 11:35, Ian Harrison 
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> Dear listers.
> I am thinking of buying a new mac mini. My old one currently runs Mountain 
> Lion. I am used to the software, but the machine is starting to die. Buying a 
> new one means I have to go to Yosemite. Can I have some opinions on the 
> learning curve and relative benefits, please.
> 
> Grateful
> Ian   
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Re: [Mac-access]: Should I be scared of Yosemite?

2015-01-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
You know...  I honestly didn't  like it at first, at all, but I'm actually 
growing to not mind it at all.


There are definitely some qwerks, but they're more just incredibly annoying 
than anything.  For example, in Safari, or for that mind, most html areas, 
if you try to type a capital letter, or any other key which includes the 
shift key, you'll hear Voiceover say New Line Selected.  This is really 
really annoying!  Yes, it'll even do it if your key echo is set to off. 
Trust me, it drives me bonkers!  For the longest of time, I wouldn't even 
use the mac, as I did a lot of web browsing, and found that to be really 
annoying.  OK, you could use Google Chrome, which doesn't have that issue, 
but I don't really care for Chrome's interface.  Not totally sure why  not, 
I just don't for some strange reason.


There also are some focus issues when using single arrow key navigation in 
Safari, which was introduced in Yosemite.  Again though, there are fairly 
easy work arounds, from what I've been told.  I've never tested them, but I 
do trust the sources who have told me about them.


So, over all, I'd say you should be just fine.  I do agree that Yosemite 
seems to be a little more clunky in my personal opinion, but that said, it's 
definitely definitely doable.


Chris.

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Subject: [Mac-access]: Should I be scared of Yosemite?




Dear listers.
I am thinking of buying a new mac mini. My old one currently runs Mountain 
Lion. I am used to the software, but the machine is starting to die. 
Buying a new one means I have to go to Yosemite. Can I have some opinions 
on the learning curve and relative benefits, please.


Grateful
Ian
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Re: [Mac-access]: Should I be scared of Yosemite?

2015-01-22 Thread David Griffith 

In short no with the following provisos.

On my machine Yosemite starts to grind to a halt whenever  I use any of 
the Scansoft voices like Daniel Samantha etc. With Alex it works just fine.
I understand Accapella voices work OK as well but I have not got these 
installed.


2. Personally I also avoid setting up activities as this also seems to 
slow things down a bit.


Apart from this you should find Yosemite a very familiar environment. In 
my case I had to go to about my Mac on the Apple menu to confirm I did 
in fact have Yosemite installed as on first glance It seemed identical 
to Mavericks to me, which was in turn pretty similar to Mountain Lion.


There are a few minor changes, the command to add items to the dock has 
changed to command control shift T rather than command shift T.
The main annoyance for me in Yosemite is that it is harder to keep 
multiple Finder windows open automatically but I have got used to using 
the open in new window command to rectify this.
Also now in Mail when I first open the program I sometime have to hit VO 
J 3 times rather than once to start the first message reading.

Also when TextEdit opens you get an annoying iCloud file open dialogue
box which can be dismissed by pressing command N for anew document.

Advances are that Safari now works with normal cursor keys and selecting 
text to copy is straightforward now.
iBooks is far more usable and when you get used to it can provide a 
pleasant reading environment.

The iWorks suite is provided for free.
If you have an iPhone you can now make and answer calls directly from 
your Mac though I have not bothered.


David Griffith
On 22/01/2015 11:35, Ian Harrison wrote:

Dear listers.
I am thinking of buying a new mac mini. My old one currently runs Mountain 
Lion. I am used to the software, but the machine is starting to die. Buying a 
new one means I have to go to Yosemite. Can I have some opinions on the 
learning curve and relative benefits, please.

Grateful
Ian 
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