Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-04 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Sarah,

In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button includes 
an option to create a Mountain Lion disk.

BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to 
make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation 
disk for my SD card via Disk Utility.  It was very easy and straight forward 
using Carbon Copy  Cloner.

Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sarah Alawami 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


  Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't 
have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I 
do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.

  Take care.
  On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

   Hi Geoff,
   
   Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in 
Disk Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and 
create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, 
rather than to use the Erase tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD media card 
come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these 
formats. 
   
   The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, 
you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, 
Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) 
vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is 
not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used 
to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or 
Windows-compatible partitions.  
   
   In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
Current to 1 partition (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to 
select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  These 
changes take effect when you click Apply.
   
   I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a 
Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options 
automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the 
default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and 
the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I 
described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase 
tab.
   
   HTH.  Cheers,
   
   Esther
   
   On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
   
   Hi Geoff
   
   If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab.  
There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons.  
Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK.  Then, 
click Apply and then click Partition.  Your partition will then be created.
   
   Gordon
   
   On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
   
   I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.
   
   Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition 
type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I 
decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is 
inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media 
to the target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting 
the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
   
   I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
   
   Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
   Geoff
   
   
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-04 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Yeah, I just used CCC to create mine, and that worked nicely.  
On 2012-08-04, at 4:59 AM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sarah,
 
 In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button 
 includes an option to create a Mountain Lion disk.
 
 BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to 
 make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation 
 disk for my SD card via Disk Utility.  It was very easy and straight forward 
 using Carbon Copy  Cloner.
 
 Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards.
 Geoff
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sarah Alawami 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.
 
 
  Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't 
 have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do 
 I do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.
 
  Take care.
  On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Geoff,
 
 Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk 
 Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
 being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab 
 and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the 
 process, rather than to use the Erase tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD 
 media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs 
 can read these formats. 
 
 The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you 
 not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, 
 Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel 
 Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device 
 that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for 
 devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require 
 DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions.  
 
 In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
 by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
 Current to 1 partition (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
 name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to 
 select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  
 These changes take effect when you click Apply.
 
 I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a 
 Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options 
 automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as 
 the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this 
 preparation and the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the 
 drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility 
 instead of the Erase tab.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
 
 Hi Geoff
 
 If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab.  
 There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons.  
 Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
 table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK.  
 Then, click Apply and then click Partition.  Your partition will then 
 be created.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
 
 I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
 apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
 connected media.
 
 Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type 
 in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided 
 that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is 
 inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired 
 media to the target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and 
 selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
 
 I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
 properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
 recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
 
 Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
 Geoff
 
 
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-03 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Geoff

Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

Gordon

On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

I copied the InstallESD.dmg file to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS journaled. 
 All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 7.8 GB 
partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets weird.  
I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but then when 
I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the target 
remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the SD 
partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker app 
that Sarah mentioned?

TIA and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-03 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Esther, Gordon and others,

I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.

Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in 
the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided that 
as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible 
for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the 
target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the 
resulting mounted volume, to no avail.

I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.

Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


  Hi Geoff

  Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

  Gordon

  On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

  I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

  Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS 
journaled.  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets 
weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but 
then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the 
target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the 
SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

  Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
app that Sarah mentioned?

  TIA and best regards.
  Geoff
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-03 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Geoff

If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab.  There 
is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons.  Pressing 
that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that table just 
select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK.  Then, click 
Apply and then click Partition.  Your partition will then be created.

Gordon

On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Esther, Gordon and others,

I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
connected media.

Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in 
the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided that 
as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible 
for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the 
target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the 
resulting mounted volume, to no avail.

I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.

Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
Geoff

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gordon Smith 
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card.


 Hi Geoff

 Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard 
drive on which you could try this test?  As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it 
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)

 Gordon

 On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.

 Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS 
journaled.  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets 
weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but 
then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the 
target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the 
SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that I'm missing a 
step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating 
the Lion DVD.

 Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
app that Sarah mentioned?

 TIA and best regards.
 Geoff
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-03 Thread Esther
Hi Geoff,

Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk 
Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and 
create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, 
rather than to use the Erase tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD media card 
come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these 
formats. 

The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you 
not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, 
Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) 
vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is 
not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used 
to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or 
Windows-compatible partitions.  

In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by 
changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
Current to 1 partition (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to 
select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  These 
changes take effect when you click Apply.

I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a 
Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options 
automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the 
default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and 
the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I 
described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase 
tab.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

 Hi Geoff
 
 If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab.  
 There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons.  
 Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
 table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK.  
 Then, click Apply and then click Partition.  Your partition will then be 
 created.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
 
 I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
 apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
 connected media.
 
 Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type 
 in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided 
 that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is 
 inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired 
 media to the target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and 
 selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
 
 I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
 properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
 recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
 
 Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
 Geoff
 

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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an  ml blush drive. I don't have 
the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I do 
this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.

Take care.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Geoff,
 
 Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk 
 Utility.  I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for 
 being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab 
 and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the 
 process, rather than to use the Erase tab.  Most USB thumb drives and SD 
 media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs 
 can read these formats. 
 
 The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you 
 not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, 
 Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel 
 Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device 
 that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for 
 devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- 
 or Windows-compatible partitions.  
 
 In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition 
 by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from 
 Current to 1 partition (or however many you want).   Then you can assign 
 name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to 
 select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR).  
 These changes take effect when you click Apply.
 
 I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a 
 Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options 
 automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as 
 the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this 
 preparation and the formatting settings.  But it is possible to prep the 
 drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility 
 instead of the Erase tab.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
 
 Hi Geoff
 
 If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab.  
 There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons.  
 Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types.  In that 
 table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK.  
 Then, click Apply and then click Partition.  Your partition will then be 
 created.
 
 Gordon
 
 On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
 
 I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were 
 apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB 
 connected media.
 
 Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type 
 in the delete dialog of Disk Utility.  After more experimentation I decided 
 that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is 
 inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired 
 media to the target field.  I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and 
 selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail.
 
 I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot 
 properly, so ML should be installed later today.  It sounds as though the 
 recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well.
 
 Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards.
 Geoff
 
 
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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-02 Thread Esther
Hi Geoff, 

Did you format the SD card as GUID?  I think that's necessary, although I 
haven't gone through these steps.  There's also a way to create a bootable 
image that used Carbon Copy Cloner that I can dig out,

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 I copied the InstallESD.dmg file to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card.
 
 Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS 
 journaled.  All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 
 7.8 GB partition.  Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it 
 gets weird.  I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source 
 field, but then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target 
 field, the target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the 
 name of the SD partition that I intend to be the target.  I'm assuming that 
 I'm missing a step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine 
 when I was creating the Lion DVD.
 
 Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker 
 app that Sarah mentioned?
 
 TIA and best regards.
 Geoff

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Re: Burning ML to SD card.

2012-08-02 Thread Esther
Hi Geoff and Others,

Here's the link to Dan Frakes' Macworld article, How to make a bootable 
Mountain Lion install drive. (Use Safari reader with Command-Shift-R to read 
the article):
http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html

I don't think method 1 with disk utility is accessible, but method 2 using 
Carbon Copy Cloner should be.  (And even though CCC is now $39.99 or $29.99 
through till August 12, you can still download it as a fully functioning free 
trial).  Interestingly, in the comments the author said, SuperDuper will work 
for cloning a hard drive, but it's not the right tool for making a bootable 
install drive.  The three tools mentioned i nthe article are your best choices.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther
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