Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'll say this much, chrome has come a long way since 2011 when it first came 
out for the mac. See my youtube vid google chrome has lost its shine. for more 
info. It is now very much accessible and google are working hard to make it 
even better. I use it on troublesome sites that for some reason don't work at 
all with safari, or work better with chrome.

take care.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:12 AM, isaac  wrote:

> My person preference until I see any problems happen is safari. I tried 
> google crome on the mac and didn’t like it all.
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
> 
>> I actually like both, and don’t have a personal preference at this point. 
>> But then again maybe I will prefer one over the other  as time goes by. I’m 
>> going to install ChromeVox on my Mac using the instructions provided 
>> earlier, and see what I think of it. But I can tell you for certain that my 
>> sighted life-skills tutor prefers Chrome over Safari any day. I guess one 
>> thing that I find a bit interesting is that some links work just by hitting 
>> Enter, while for others Enter doesn’t work and I have to hit VO Spacebar. 
>> One example of this is when checking my work email and going through the 
>> Spam folder, Enter does not work for opening that folder but it does work 
>> otherwise. My work email account is a subdomain of Gmail. But perhaps that 
>> is just a VoiceOver thing, one which I haven’t quite gotten used to. This 
>> applies to both browsers.
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>>> Chrome.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
 tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
 accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[JAKE JOEHL]

I actually like both, and don’t have a personal preference at this point. But 
then again maybe I will prefer one over the other  as time goes by. I’m going 
to install ChromeVox on my Mac using the instructions provided earlier, and see 
what I think of it. But I can tell you for certain that my sighted life-skills 
tutor prefers Chrome over Safari any day. I guess one thing that I find a bit 
interesting is that some links work just by hitting Enter, while for others 
Enter doesn’t work and I have to hit VO Spacebar. One example of this is when 
checking my work email and going through the Spam folder, Enter does not work 
for opening that folder but it does work otherwise. My work email account is a 
subdomain of Gmail. But perhaps that is just a VoiceOver thing, one which I 
haven’t quite gotten used to. This applies to both browsers.
JAKE JOEHL
jajo...@att.net



On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
> Chrome.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
> 
>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[isaac]

My person preference until I see any problems happen is safari. I tried google 
crome on the mac and didn’t like it all.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:01 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> I actually like both, and don’t have a personal preference at this point. But 
> then again maybe I will prefer one over the other  as time goes by. I’m going 
> to install ChromeVox on my Mac using the instructions provided earlier, and 
> see what I think of it. But I can tell you for certain that my sighted 
> life-skills tutor prefers Chrome over Safari any day. I guess one thing that 
> I find a bit interesting is that some links work just by hitting Enter, while 
> for others Enter doesn’t work and I have to hit VO Spacebar. One example of 
> this is when checking my work email and going through the Spam folder, Enter 
> does not work for opening that folder but it does work otherwise. My work 
> email account is a subdomain of Gmail. But perhaps that is just a VoiceOver 
> thing, one which I haven’t quite gotten used to. This applies to both 
> browsers.
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>> Chrome.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Kristeen Hughes]

The links don't show in Safari. There is supposed to be a lind after each name 
on a particular page, for example. Safaru simply doesn't see them.

Kristeen

On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:48 AM, isaac  wrote:

> Have you tried using the rotor in safari to get to the links faster?
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> There are certain links that it does not show. I know they're there and with 
>> a Windows machine people see them. VO crashes a lot with Item chooser and 
>> sometimes just because. If I use the back button, it takes me to an entirely 
>> different area. It makes a site I'm using a lot right now almost 
>> unmanageable. I don't know if I have a configuration that should be changed 
>> or what, but there is some of it.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>>> What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 
>>> 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
 Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
 trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
 Chrome.
 
 Kristeen
 
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 wrote:
 
> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
> and tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it 
> more accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[isaac]

Have you tried using the rotor in safari to get to the links faster?
On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> There are certain links that it does not show. I know they're there and with 
> a Windows machine people see them. VO crashes a lot with Item chooser and 
> sometimes just because. If I use the back button, it takes me to an entirely 
> different area. It makes a site I'm using a lot right now almost 
> unmanageable. I don't know if I have a configuration that should be changed 
> or what, but there is some of it.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 
>> AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>>> Chrome.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
 tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
 accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Kristeen Hughes]

There are certain links that it does not show. I know they're there and with a 
Windows machine people see them. VO crashes a lot with Item chooser and 
sometimes just because. If I use the back button, it takes me to an entirely 
different area. It makes a site I'm using a lot right now almost unmanageable. 
I don't know if I have a configuration that should be changed or what, but 
there is some of it.

Kristeen

On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, isaac  wrote:

> What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 
> AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
>> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
>> Chrome.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

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No I don’tlike crome. I have had better luck with safari.
On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
> trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying 
> Chrome.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
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> wrote:
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>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

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What problems are you having with safari on the mac?On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:55 
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> Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
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> Chrome.
> 
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>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Kristeen Hughes]

Do you folks like Chrome better than Safari for the mac? I am having some 
trouble with Safari on pages I use a lot, and am wondering about trying Chrome.

Kristeen

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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[alberto]

I think the link will give you that info too.
On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:

> From where do you get Chrome Vox? 
> 
> sent from my phone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto quick 
>> talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. You do 
>> not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been ever since I 
>> started using it in 2012.
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor 
>>> is the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>>> sighted and swears by it.
>>> Jake
>>> JAKE JOEHL
>>> jajo...@att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
 
 I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
 screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the 
 menu bar. it makes the page easier to use.
 
 If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
 chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it 
 as my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on 
 to discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
 
 Take care.
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
> 
> I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto 
> quick talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. 
> You do not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been 
> ever since I started using it in 2012.
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor 
>>> is the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>>> sighted and swears by it.
>>> Jake
>>> JAKE JOEHL
>>> jajo...@att.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
 
 I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
 screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the 
 menu bar. it makes the page easier to use.
 
 If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
 chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it 
 as my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on 
 to discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
 
 Take care.
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
> 
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> and tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it 
> more accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Juanita Martin]

From where do you get Chrome Vox? 

sent from my phone
 


> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto quick 
> talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. You do 
> not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been ever since I 
> started using it in 2012.
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is 
>> the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>> sighted and swears by it.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
>>> screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu 
>>> bar. it makes the page easier to use.
>>> 
>>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
>>> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
>>> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
 wrote:
 
 I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips 
 Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto 
 quick talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. 
 You do not have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been 
 ever since I started using it in 2012.
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
>> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
>> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is 
>> the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
>> sighted and swears by it.
>> Jake
>> JAKE JOEHL
>> jajo...@att.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your 
>>> screen reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu 
>>> bar. it makes the page easier to use.
>>> 
>>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
>>> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
>>> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
 wrote:
 
 I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air.  Are there any tips and 
 tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
 accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Bryan Jones]

I would second Sarah’s suggestion of installing the ChromeVox extension. If you 
visit www.chromevox.com you will find a link to install the extension, a guide 
to the chromevox keyboard shortcuts, and a nice interactive tutorial to help 
you get up and running quickly with ChromeVox.

HTH,
Bryan

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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

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Nope.  You need to activate chrome vox. then voice over will just auto quick 
talking. I dunno how it works, but it works  if you want to use it. You do not 
have to though as chrome is getting way better and has been ever since I 
started using it in 2012.
On Mar 18, 2014, at 2:31 PM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one 
> start talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome 
> on here along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is 
> the one who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully 
> sighted and swears by it.
> Jake
> JAKE JOEHL
> jajo...@att.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your screen 
>> reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu bar. it 
>> makes the page easier to use.
>> 
>> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
>> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
>> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
>> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>> wrote:
>> 
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>>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
>>> accessible?  I’ve already made it the default browser.
>>> Thanks.
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So if I’m using Chrome and just toggle VoiceOver off, will the other one start 
talking? Now you’ve peaked my interest, lol! I have been using Chrome on here 
along with Safari, and I actually like both. My life-skills tutor is the one 
who originally suggested I install Chrome on here. He is fully sighted and 
swears by it.
Jake
JAKE JOEHL
jajo...@att.net



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> I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your screen 
> reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu bar. it 
> makes the page easier to use.
> 
> If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google 
> chrome. I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as 
> my default. it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to 
> discuss chrome and its various accessibility issues.
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
> wrote:
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>> tricks I should know about using it?  Any settings that would make it more 
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>> Thanks.
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Re: Google Chrome on the Mac

[Sarah k Alawami]

I use chrome vox when needed.  It is an extension that runs when your screen 
reader si not needed but does not run in the address bar or the menu bar. it 
makes the page easier to use.

If not, then all voice over tricks and tips should still work in google chrome. 
I also love chrome but for the university's sake i do not use it as my default. 
it is pretty fast though and the team read the list I'm on to discuss chrome 
and its various accessibility issues.

Take care.
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Re: Google Chrome

[Sean Murphy]

It works far better then Safari from my point of view. Table navigation 
actually works while in voice-over with Safari you have issues when you move up 
a table from bottom to top in a column. 

You can easily search on the web page by increments. Safari doesn’t give you 
this. Selecting text is easy as well. 

Sean 
On 22 Feb 2014, at 3:15 am, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I know there are people here who have tried this as I've seen the threads in 
> the past but not taken all that much notice.
> 
> So where are we at now with Google Chrome and its associated tools with OSX 
> Mavericks? I know a little about how Chrome and its tools work given that I 
> have a Samsung Chromebox but that's another story for another place and time.
> 
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Re: Google Chrome

[Chris H]

The app is free and seems accessible when I last tried it. I prefer 
Safari though for some reason particularly the ticks when a page is loading.


Regards Chris

On 21/02/2014 21:19, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Stupid question I'm sure, is there a Google Chrome Browser App for IOS and has 
anyone tried it?


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Re: Google Chrome

[Dane Trethowan]

Just installed it and I've been playing for the last half an hour, its nice and 
fast I have to admit though I'm going to have to play a little more and work 
out the subtle things like selecting items in list boxes and so on.


On 22 Feb 2014, at 5:33 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I also love  google chrome. I use it along with lightning and safari for my 
> browsers. chrome  vox also is working pretty well.
> 
> Take care and be blessed.
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:00 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:
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>> I am running Google Chrome on my Mac Book Air. It seems to work great, 
>> although I’ve never actually used it with Chromevox. I assume this is the 
>> latest build but I’m not positive. I use Chrome and Safari interchangeably 
>> and like both. They both work very well with Voiceover.
>> Jake
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Re: Google Chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

I also love  google chrome. I use it along with lightning and safari for my 
browsers. chrome  vox also is working pretty well.

Take care and be blessed.
On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:00 AM, JAKE JOEHL  wrote:

> I am running Google Chrome on my Mac Book Air. It seems to work great, 
> although I’ve never actually used it with Chromevox. I assume this is the 
> latest build but I’m not positive. I use Chrome and Safari interchangeably 
> and like both. They both work very well with Voiceover.
> Jake
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I know there are people here who have tried this as I've seen the threads in 
>> the past but not taken all that much notice.
>> 
>> So where are we at now with Google Chrome and its associated tools with OSX 
>> Mavericks? I know a little about how Chrome and its tools work given that I 
>> have a Samsung Chromebox but that's another story for another place and time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Google Chrome

[JAKE JOEHL]

I am running Google Chrome on my Mac Book Air. It seems to work great, although 
I’ve never actually used it with Chromevox. I assume this is the latest build 
but I’m not positive. I use Chrome and Safari interchangeably and like both. 
They both work very well with Voiceover.
Jake
On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I know there are people here who have tried this as I've seen the threads in 
> the past but not taken all that much notice.
> 
> So where are we at now with Google Chrome and its associated tools with OSX 
> Mavericks? I know a little about how Chrome and its tools work given that I 
> have a Samsung Chromebox but that's another story for another place and time.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Glenn]

I do have a correction,
The app is called Chrome Cast.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher gilland" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome app


Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat
decent.

Chris.

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From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Google Chrome app


> Hi,
> I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas,
> for
> 35 dollars each at Amazon.
> There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
> called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at
> least
> indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
> There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
> then connecting to your router.
> This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
> screenreaders.
> The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and
> you
> will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
> it is connected to.
> A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
> change what they are watching from your device.
> You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content,
> and
> NetFlix and other similar content.
> Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
> say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
> completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible
> since
> it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
> way to run TalkBack on it.
>
> Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
> Glenn
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Josh Gregory]

LOL it's quite alright, I'm sure I've done something like that myself, in fact 
I know I have.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:35 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> What did I say, Chromevox?  God!  It's been a long night!  Damn I feel 
> imbarrassed!  Tarzan cry!  LOL!
> 
> Sorry bout that.  I feel really smart right about now!  LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Josh Gregory" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Google Chrome app
> 
> 
>> No… Sorry, I think thats a Chromecast.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat 
>>> decent.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
>>> Subject: Google Chrome app
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, 
>>>> for
>>>> 35 dollars each at Amazon.
>>>> There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
>>>> called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at 
>>>> least
>>>> indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
>>>> There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
>>>> then connecting to your router.
>>>> This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
>>>> screenreaders.
>>>> The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and you
>>>> will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
>>>> it is connected to.
>>>> A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
>>>> change what they are watching from your device.
>>>> You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, 
>>>> and
>>>> NetFlix and other similar content.
>>>> Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
>>>> say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
>>>> completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible since
>>>> it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
>>>> way to run TalkBack on it.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
>>>> Glenn
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Christopher gilland]

What did I say, Chromevox?  God!  It's been a long night!  Damn I feel 
imbarrassed!  Tarzan cry!  LOL!


Sorry bout that.  I feel really smart right about now!  LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Gregory" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome app



No… Sorry, I think thats a Chromecast.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
 wrote:


Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat 
decent.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
Subject: Google Chrome app



Hi,
I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, 
for

35 dollars each at Amazon.
There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at 
least
indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS 
device.
There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV 
and

then connecting to your router.
This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
screenreaders.
The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and 
you
will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same 
router

it is connected to.
A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
change what they are watching from your device.
You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, 
and

NetFlix and other similar content.
Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except 
to

say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible 
since
it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be 
a

way to run TalkBack on it.

Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
Glenn

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Re: Google Chrome app

[Josh Gregory]

No… Sorry, I think thats a Chromecast.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Christopher gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat decent.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:06 AM
> Subject: Google Chrome app
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, for
>> 35 dollars each at Amazon.
>> There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
>> called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at least
>> indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
>> There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
>> then connecting to your router.
>> This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
>> screenreaders.
>> The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and you
>> will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
>> it is connected to.
>> A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
>> change what they are watching from your device.
>> You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, and
>> NetFlix and other similar content.
>> Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
>> say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
>> completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible since
>> it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
>> way to run TalkBack on it.
>> 
>> Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
>> Glenn
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Re: Google Chrome app

[Christopher gilland]

Oh, you're talking about the Chromevox.  Yeah, I hear they're somewhat 
decent.


Chris.

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Subject: Google Chrome app



Hi,
I bought a couple of Google Chrome devices for family members, for Xmas, 
for

35 dollars each at Amazon.
There is a free Google Chrome app for the IOS devices, on the app store,
called Google Chrome, and I am pleased to report that the device is at 
least

indirectly usable by a Blind person using VoiceOver from their IOS device.
There are two parts of setting it up, one is plugging it into your TV and
then connecting to your router.
This part is not doable by a Blind person, because TVs don't yet have
screenreaders.
The other part is to open the Google Chrome app on your IOS device, and 
you

will find the Google Chrome device if you are connected to the same router
it is connected to.
A funny thing about this is, if someone is watching a program, you can
change what they are watching from your device.
You can watch content from your device, like videos and YouTube content, 
and

NetFlix and other similar content.
Since I don't have an Apple TV device, I cannot compare the two except to
say that I suspect that a person using VoiceOver can probably set it up
completely, where connecting the device to the router is not possible 
since

it has no speakers, and no touch-screen and I don't think there would be a
way to run TalkBack on it.

Anyway, I hope some find this useful.
Glenn

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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello James

Just wanted to say "Good Call" on this one, since you correctly used the upper 
case "L" on the string "~/Library/". However, you did miss the closing quote. 
;-)

Just joking James. As I said it was a good call. Most people forget that some 
systems, (ours, for example), are case sensitive as has always been the case 
with Linux/Unix systems I believe. We use case sensitive file systems because 
it allows us much more flexibility. It can, at times, cause problems though 
under OS X.

Getting back to Cait's problem though, it brings me back to another subject 
close to my heart, backups. I honestly believe that if possible, it is always 
wise to create a full system backup before a major installation such as Chrome 
is performed. We personally have never performed that specific installation, 
although we have been tempted too given the number of websites which still do 
not support Safari 6.

Something which does not impact on my own personal use, but which does on 
Gordon's and, I would assume, every other VoiceOver users as well, is the 
verbalisation of icons mapped to links or even just text. So, you'll hear 
something like "Link, Icon_1_Home.gif" followed by another occurrence of "Link, 
Home". Sometimes there are two links, sometimes not; depends very much on the 
website. I have often wondered whether that happens in other browsers using 
VoiceOver.

Anyway, I am drifting off topic. Good call regarding the instructions you gave 
to Cait. I encourage backups be made using apps such as the recently and 
extensively discussed "Carbon Copy Cloner" and "Super Duper!". They would save 
a great deal of headache I'm sure.

Lynne

On 8 Sep 2012, at 21:54, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:

• You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.

• If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since 
Lion, then do the following;

1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
dialogue. 
2. Type the following, without the quotes" "~/Library/ There is a slash in this 
quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
like: "com.google.chrome.plist" There may be a few of these files. You can 
delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 

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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Cait Furness]

James, *thank you, thank you, thank you*!  

I'd already remembered in my foggy brain about the go menu and the hidden 
library by the time I'd written my message to the list and purged the dumb 
files from the support folder, but completely forgot about the preferences 
folder, so naturally the dumb chrome app came back from the dead as soon as I 
clicked on a link again in mail even though I rebooted and emptied the trash!  
I'll have another go round and see what happenes this time!

Cait

On 2012-09-08, at 4:54 PM, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:

> Hi Caitlyn
> On 8 Sep 2012, at 20:13, Cait Furness  wrote:
> Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?
> 
> You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
> Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.
> 
> If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since 
> Lion, then do the following;
> 
> 1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
> dialogue. 
> 2. Type the following, without the quotes" "~/Library/ There is a slash in 
> this quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
> 3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
> 4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
> like: "com.google.chrome.plist" There may be a few of these files. You can 
> delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 
> 
> Warmest wishes 
> James 
> 
> Hi,
> Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and 
> installed it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system 
> as there are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my 
> applications folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still 
> thinks it's residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it 
> every time I click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link 
> from within mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where 
> it's finding this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then 
> emptied my trash and restarted my system!
> 
> Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Caitlyn
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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

[Sarah Alawami]

I would try redownloaidn it and ten installing and the unlnstalling it with 
trash me. it will pick up everything and more it to the trash. then you can 
empty your trash.

I love google cream but I have to use it as our automation system requires it 
or firefox.

Tc all.
On Sep 8, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Cait Furness  wrote:

> Hi,
> Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and 
> installed it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system 
> as there are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my 
> applications folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still 
> thinks it's residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it 
> every time I click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link 
> from within mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where 
> it's finding this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then 
> emptied my trash and restarted my system!
> 
> Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Caitlyn
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Re: google chrome, how do I get rid of this dumb thing?

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Hi Caitlyn
On 8 Sep 2012, at 20:13, Cait Furness  wrote:
Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

You might also want to  check the Application Support folder and your 
Preferences folder, which you'll find in your Library folder.

If your own Library folder is hidden, which is the default setting since Lion, 
then do the following;

1. In the Finder, press Command+Shift+G. This will bring up the "Go To" 
dialogue. 
2. Type the following, without the quotes" "~/Library/ There is a slash in this 
quoted text., so you might just want to copy the quoted text.
3. You'll find the Application Support and Preferences folders here.
4. Within the Preferences folder, you're looking for a file called something 
like: "com.google.chrome.plist" There may be a few of these files. You can 
delete them and then empty your trash. This should alleviate your problem. 

Warmest wishes 
James 

Hi,
Ok, in a moment of weakness, I stupidly downloaded google chrome and installed 
it on my mac.  Now, I want to uninstall it completely off my system as there 
are things I don't like about it after all.  I already went to my applications 
folder and binned the app, but for some reason, my mac still thinks it's 
residing someplace on the system and tries to open links in it every time I 
click on a link from mail.  What's more, if I do click on a link from within 
mail, it actually *does* open chrome.  Now, I don't know where it's finding 
this thing, since I uninstalled it from the apps folder and then emptied my 
trash and restarted my system!

Is there some hidden place I can purge some dastardly files from, please?

Thanks!

Caitlyn

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Re: Google chrome

[Kevin Chao]

Yes, I use Blakcbaord all of the time. I was unable to use it with 
Safari/Voiceover, but have been able to without any problems at all with Chrome 
web browser and ChromeVox extension from Chrome Web Store. It works flawlessly 
with all of Blackboard, including discussion board. In college setting, I can 
have Blackbaord as CMS, CourseSmart as eTextbook, and Docs for productivity 
suite, and for it to be fully accessible and a great experience. I absolutely 
enjoy it and appreciate that Google has made this possible across multiple 
platforms with a unified experience.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:

> Hello Kevin or anyone else,
> 
> I haven't been following the Google accessibility threads at all because I 
> didn't figure I would need to use any of the Google apps.  However, I heard 
> that the Google browser worked with BlackBoard, and if this is true, this is 
> very important for me.  Could someone please tell me what I need to download 
> in order for the Google apps to work on my Mac Book running Lion?  As far as 
> BlackBoard is concerned, can anyone tell me if it is possible with the Google 
> browser to reliably work with the discussion boards for individual university 
> classes?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 3,Oct,2011, at 12:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> 
>> Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
>> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662
>> 
>> Use Google documents with a screen reader
>> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
>>> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
>>> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>>> 
>>> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
>>> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
>>> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
>>> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
>>> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
>>> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
>>> is all very confusing.
>>> 
>>> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
>>> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
>>> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>>> 
>>> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
>>> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
>>> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
>>> using chrome.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any tips
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: Google chrome

[Paul Hopewell]

HI Kevin, 
Many thanks for the attached references to helpful documents on how to use 
Google docs. 

I finally found some good help and a tutorial on how to use ChromeVox. At first 
I did not realise that it is a complete screen reader for the Google Chrome 
environment and that you first have to turn VoiceOver off to avoid confusion. 
There are a vast number of good shortcut keys to control ChromeVox but one 
problem I have not yet solved is the need to keep the ChromeVox keys 
Control+Option keys pressed while you tap in turn the two or more keys required 
to enter the required ChromeVox keyboard shortcut. I noticed that there is a 
sticky key feature which suggested that a double tap of the Insert key would 
lock the ChromeVox keys on. However I am not sure which Insert key and I have 
not gotten this to work. 
Have you solved this problem? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 
On 3 Oct 2011, at 11:37, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662
> 
> Use Google documents with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
>> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
>> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>> 
>> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
>> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
>> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
>> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
>> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
>> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
>> is all very confusing.
>> 
>> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
>> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
>> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>> 
>> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
>> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
>> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
>> using chrome.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: Google chrome

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Kevin or anyone else,

I haven't been following the Google accessibility threads at all because I 
didn't figure I would need to use any of the Google apps.  However, I heard 
that the Google browser worked with BlackBoard, and if this is true, this is 
very important for me.  Could someone please tell me what I need to download in 
order for the Google apps to work on my Mac Book running Lion?  As far as 
BlackBoard is concerned, can anyone tell me if it is possible with the Google 
browser to reliably work with the discussion boards for individual university 
classes?

Thank you,

Mike

On 3,Oct,2011, at 12:37 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662
> 
> Use Google documents with a screen reader
> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
>> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
>> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>> 
>> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
>> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
>> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
>> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
>> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
>> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
>> is all very confusing.
>> 
>> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
>> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
>> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>> 
>> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
>> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
>> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
>> using chrome.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: Google chrome

[Kevin Chao]

Navigate your Documents List with a screen reader
https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1631662

Use Google documents with a screen reader
https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1632201

Kevin

On 10/1/11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> Hello,
> Following recent posts I am playing with Google chrome with chrome-vox and
> google docs. I am currently finding it very confusing and would appreciate
> any pointer to some good beginners documentation.
>
> I have a Google account and I have installed the standard Google chrome (not
> chrome canary) and have chrome-vox and google docs installed. Google chrome
> now generates lots of mysterious sounds and often speaks in my default voice
> (not the voice I am using for VoiceOver). In many cases the screen info is
> inaccessible using standard VO keys but is accessible using tab and arrow
> keys which cause Google chrome to speak in my default voice. At present it
> is all very confusing.
>
> Should I have installed chrome canary rather than the standard chrome? I see
> that chrome canary is the latest nightly untested chrome build and I saw
> several posts about it frequently crashing. Hence I have so far avoided it.
>
> What do you chrome enthusiasts recommend I should do and where can I best
> read some basic info? I would like to get to the stage of uploading a
> Microsoft word document from my iMac local hard disk and then editing it
> using chrome.
>
> Many thanks for any tips
>
> Paul Hopewell
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Re: Google Chrome, ChromeVox, and Apps

[william lomas]

can't get this to install on my iMac when i run the package it says non 
readable, and i enabled the API's in chrome on my iMac

On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:

> As a college student and  an employee where professors, students, and
> co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting,
> empowering, and equalizing that I am able to use it as well with a
> consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For
> me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web
> browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also
> tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables)  and Safari (also
> tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive.
> However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs,
> and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac.
> 
> Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs
> with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with
> HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB
> key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will
> require several attempts, and many other issues.
> 
> ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome,
> removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be
> done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a
> web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver
> do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox.
> 
> many people can work on a document simultaneously,  and all of this is
> possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's
> possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss
> various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can
> make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as
> they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also
> accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents
> and spreadsheets.
> 
> It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in
> feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates
> addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and
> other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web
> browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and
> Gmail are the great highlights.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 9/27/11, Orin  wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Just got Google Chrome and I'm loving it so far, Particularly the fast load
>> times. Downloading the current stable version the first time, I noticed that
>> Youtube links, when clicked on such as video links to switch videos were not
>> working, and the "see all" links were not working either.
>> 
>> Also, in preferences, the default is basics. How can I switch this? The
>> Youtube thing can probably be changed with a preference. When I get time
>> I'll install ChromeVox at some point, just seems like a lot of steps being
>> that it's late now.
>> 
>> Orin
>> orin8...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
>> Skype: orin1112
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible
>>> job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome
>>> extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail).
>>> This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and
>>> top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and
>>> a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially
>>> documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and
>>> ChromeVox extension and find it to be great.
>>> 
>>> Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a
>>> universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity
>>> suite.
>>> 
>>> Google Chrome Canary (Mac web browser powering ChromeVox/Apps):
>>> http://j.mp/oWZ7Of
>>> Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension
>>> http://j.mp/nmnNR5
>>> ChromeVox User Guide:
>>> http://t.co/b9ABBkv
>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader
>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>>> Google accessibility feedback:
>>> http://goo.gl/wePru
>>> 
>>> FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with
>>> Chrome/ChromeVox.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
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>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: Google Chrome, ChromeVox, and Apps

[Kevin Chao]

As a college student and  an employee where professors, students, and
co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting,
empowering, and equalizing that I am able to use it as well with a
consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For
me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web
browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also
tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables)  and Safari (also
tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive.
However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs,
and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac.

Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs
with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with
HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB
key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will
require several attempts, and many other issues.

ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome,
removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be
done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a
web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver
do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox.

many people can work on a document simultaneously,  and all of this is
possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's
possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss
various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can
make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as
they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also
accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents
and spreadsheets.

It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in
feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates
addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and
other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web
browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and
Gmail are the great highlights.

Kevin

On 9/27/11, Orin  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Just got Google Chrome and I'm loving it so far, Particularly the fast load
> times. Downloading the current stable version the first time, I noticed that
> Youtube links, when clicked on such as video links to switch videos were not
> working, and the "see all" links were not working either.
>
> Also, in preferences, the default is basics. How can I switch this? The
> Youtube thing can probably be changed with a preference. When I get time
> I'll install ChromeVox at some point, just seems like a lot of steps being
> that it's late now.
>
> Orin
> orin8...@gmail.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
> Skype: orin1112
>
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>
>> Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible
>> job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome
>> extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail).
>> This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and
>> top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and
>> a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially
>> documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and
>> ChromeVox extension and find it to be great.
>>
>> Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a
>> universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity
>> suite.
>>
>> Google Chrome Canary (Mac web browser powering ChromeVox/Apps):
>> http://j.mp/oWZ7Of
>> Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension
>> http://j.mp/nmnNR5
>> ChromeVox User Guide:
>> http://t.co/b9ABBkv
>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader
>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV
>> Google accessibility feedback:
>> http://goo.gl/wePru
>>
>> FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with
>> Chrome/ChromeVox.
>>
>> Kevin
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>
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