Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-17 Thread Laurie Mehta
Hi Jan, 

Would you please send me a copy of this as well? 

Thanks much, 
Laurie M. 

On Tue, 10/15/13, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Seeking Help with XCode
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 3:32 AM
 
 Hallo Dónal, Ray, and Travis,
 
 I think, there are some message size restrictions in this
 list. So I sent you the sample project off-list.
 
 Greetings
 
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 Am 11.10.2013 um 10:22 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :
 
 > Hi Jan,
 > 
 > No hurry at all.  Very much appreciated.
 > 
 > Dónal
 > On 11 Oct 2013, at 09:06, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"
 
 wrote:
 > 
 >> Hallo Ray, Dónal, Travis, and others,
 >> 
 >> I will write a little sample project for UI
 creation in iOS apps. Pleae give me some days ...
 >> 
 >> Greetings
 >> 
 >> Jan
 >> 
 >> ---
 >> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
 >> Download im App Store:
 >> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
 >> ---
 >> Dr. Jan Blüher
 >> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für
 iPad & iPhone
 >> Bayreuther Str. 2
 >> D-01187 Dresden
 >> Deutschland
 >> 
 >> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
 >> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
 >> E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
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 >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
 >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
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 >> Am 10.10.2013 um 22:17 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick
 :
 >> 
 >>> Hi there Jan,
 >>> 
 >>> This would be fantastic if you had the time.
 feel free to send off-list if you wish.  My very
 sincere thanks indeed for doing this.  I'm teaching a
 course in Human-Computer Interaction and it would be
 *really* useful to be able to knock up an interface quickly
 in code rather than messing around with interface
 builder.  Yes it can be done, but accomplishing this
 task is the coding equivalent of watching paint dry. 
 Now, back to Node.js for me for the evening!
 >>> 
 >>> All the best,
 >>> 
 >>> Dónal
 >>> On 10 Oct 2013, at 13:23, "Jan Blüher,
 visorApps" 
 wrote:
 >>> 
 >>>> Hi Dónal,
 >>>> 
 >>>> would a little sample project with comments
 be the right material for you?
 >>>> 
 >>>> Greetings
 >>>> 
 >>>> Jan
 >>>> 
 >>>> ---
 >>>> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
 >>>> Download im App Store:
 >>>> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
 >>>> ---
 >>>> Dr. Jan Blüher
 >>>> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps
 für iPad & iPhone
 >>>> Bayreuther Str. 2
 >>>> D-01187 Dresden
 >>>> Deutschland
 >>>> 
 >>>> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
 >>>> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-15 Thread Jan Blüher, visorApps
Hallo Dónal, Ray, and Travis,

I think, there are some message size restrictions in this list. So I sent you 
the sample project off-list.

Greetings

Jan

---
MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
Download im App Store:
http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
---
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Am 11.10.2013 um 10:22 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :

> Hi Jan,
> 
> No hurry at all.  Very much appreciated.
> 
> Dónal
> On 11 Oct 2013, at 09:06, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hallo Ray, Dónal, Travis, and others,
>> 
>> I will write a little sample project for UI creation in iOS apps. Pleae give 
>> me some days ...
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> ---
>> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
>> Download im App Store:
>> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
>> ---
>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Deutschland
>> 
>> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>> E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>> web: http://visorApps.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>> 
>> Umsatzsteuernummer: DE281706766
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>> Am 10.10.2013 um 22:17 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :
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>>> Hi there Jan,
>>> 
>>> This would be fantastic if you had the time. feel free to send off-list if 
>>> you wish.  My very sincere thanks indeed for doing this.  I'm teaching a 
>>> course in Human-Computer Interaction and it would be *really* useful to be 
>>> able to knock up an interface quickly in code rather than messing around 
>>> with interface builder.  Yes it can be done, but accomplishing this task is 
>>> the coding equivalent of watching paint dry.  Now, back to Node.js for me 
>>> for the evening!
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Dónal
>>> On 10 Oct 2013, at 13:23, "Jan Blüher, visorApps" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Dónal,
 
 would a little sample project with comments be the right material for you?
 
 Greetings
 
 Jan
 
 ---
 MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
 Download im App Store:
 http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
 ---
 Dr. Jan Blüher
 visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
 Bayreuther Str. 2
 D-01187 Dresden
 Deutschland
 
 Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
 Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
 E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
 web: http://visorApps.com
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
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 Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick 
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-11 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Jan,

No hurry at all.  Very much appreciated.

Dónal
On 11 Oct 2013, at 09:06, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
wrote:

> Hallo Ray, Dónal, Travis, and others,
> 
> I will write a little sample project for UI creation in iOS apps. Pleae give 
> me some days ...
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
> Download im App Store:
> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Deutschland
> 
> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
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> Am 10.10.2013 um 22:17 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :
> 
>> Hi there Jan,
>> 
>> This would be fantastic if you had the time. feel free to send off-list if 
>> you wish.  My very sincere thanks indeed for doing this.  I'm teaching a 
>> course in Human-Computer Interaction and it would be *really* useful to be 
>> able to knock up an interface quickly in code rather than messing around 
>> with interface builder.  Yes it can be done, but accomplishing this task is 
>> the coding equivalent of watching paint dry.  Now, back to Node.js for me 
>> for the evening!
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 10 Oct 2013, at 13:23, "Jan Blüher, visorApps" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dónal,
>>> 
>>> would a little sample project with comments be the right material for you?
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
>>> Download im App Store:
>>> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
>>> ---
>>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>>> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
>>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>>> D-01187 Dresden
>>> Deutschland
>>> 
>>> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>>> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>>> E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>>> web: http://visorApps.com
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>>> 
>>> Umsatzsteuernummer: DE281706766
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>>> Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>>> :
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-11 Thread Jan Blüher, visorApps
Hallo Ray, Dónal, Travis, and others,

I will write a little sample project for UI creation in iOS apps. Pleae give me 
some days ...

Greetings

Jan

---
MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
Download im App Store:
http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
---
Dr. Jan Blüher
visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
Bayreuther Str. 2
D-01187 Dresden
Deutschland

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Am 10.10.2013 um 22:17 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :

> Hi there Jan,
> 
> This would be fantastic if you had the time. feel free to send off-list if 
> you wish.  My very sincere thanks indeed for doing this.  I'm teaching a 
> course in Human-Computer Interaction and it would be *really* useful to be 
> able to knock up an interface quickly in code rather than messing around with 
> interface builder.  Yes it can be done, but accomplishing this task is the 
> coding equivalent of watching paint dry.  Now, back to Node.js for me for the 
> evening!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Dónal
> On 10 Oct 2013, at 13:23, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dónal,
>> 
>> would a little sample project with comments be the right material for you?
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> ---
>> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
>> Download im App Store:
>> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
>> ---
>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Deutschland
>> 
>> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>> E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>> web: http://visorApps.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>> 
>> Umsatzsteuernummer: DE281706766
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>> Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :
>> 
>>> Dónal
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-10 Thread Travis Siegel
I'm not don, but definitely, a sample project with comments would be  
perfect.  I've been trying for years to find out how to add buttons  
programmatically, and coming up short.  With that method mastered, I'd  
not need XCode for the parts that vo users can't do by themselves, and  
perhaps I'd actually attempt the whole developing for osx/ios again.   
I gave up on this a few years ago, because XCode just wasn't there,  
and any of the alternatives such as renasaisance weren't the easiest  
things to learn, and I'm usually not willing to put in hours of work  
to learn something that is not likely to offer me a significant speed  
advantage when coding.  For me, java does the job quite nicely, with  
no extra work at all, so I stashed XCode for when it got to the point  
as being as seamless as java.  To date, that hasn't happened.  If  
someone can guide me to methods of accomplishing interfaces though,  
without sighted assistance, I'm all for it.

On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Jan Blüher, visorApps wrote:


Hi Dónal,

would a little sample project with comments be the right material  
for you?


Greetings

Jan

---
MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
Download im App Store:
http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
---
Dr. Jan Blüher
visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
Bayreuther Str. 2
D-01187 Dresden
Deutschland

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Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick >:



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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-10 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi there Jan,

This would be fantastic if you had the time. feel free to send off-list if you 
wish.  My very sincere thanks indeed for doing this.  I'm teaching a course in 
Human-Computer Interaction and it would be *really* useful to be able to knock 
up an interface quickly in code rather than messing around with interface 
builder.  Yes it can be done, but accomplishing this task is the coding 
equivalent of watching paint dry.  Now, back to Node.js for me for the evening!

All the best,

Dónal
On 10 Oct 2013, at 13:23, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> 
> would a little sample project with comments be the right material for you?
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen!
> Download im App Store:
> http://AppStore.com./MouseKick
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Deutschland
> 
> Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242
> E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
> web: http://visorApps.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
> 
> Umsatzsteuernummer: DE281706766
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> Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :
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>> Dónal
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-10 Thread Ray Campbell
Jan:

A little sample comments would help me too.  I haven't fully looked through 
what you sent me already, but that should help too.

Thanks,

Ray Campbell

On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:23 AM, "Jan Blüher, visorApps" 
 wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> 
> would a little sample project with comments be the right material for you?
> 
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> 
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> Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-10 Thread Jan Blüher, visorApps
Hi Dónal,

would a little sample project with comments be the right material for you?

Greetings

Jan

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Am 10.10.2013 um 10:01 schrieb Dónal Fitzpatrick :

> Dónal

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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-10 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Jan, Ray;

Great to see this topic making its way onto this list.  I'm also an XCode 
Developer though not a prolific one.  Jan I'm most interested to see how you do 
this programmatically.  I've been looking for resources for a long time.  I've 
found some for older versions of IOS which, with some adaptation work well.  
Afraid I can't find those links now though.  Jan I don't suppose we could tempt 
you to write up a simple step-by-step to get a button, with a label and an 
action into a project programmatically?

Cheers,

Dónal
On 10 Oct 2013, at 08:22, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> 
> you want to connect an Ui element that you defined in Interface Builder to 
> your code, right? You may try to add the following line of code to your 
> ViewController.h file:
> 
> @property (nonatomic, strong) IBOutlet UIButton *button;
> 
> where button is the name of your UIButton element. Depending on how you 
> defined button in IB, there could be some variation in this line. So it might 
> be a bit tricky to establish the connection by hand.I am not sure, wether 
> there is a documentation about this mixed approach, since normally the 
> developer would use the drag and drop method to do it.
> 
> As already mentioned, I do completely skip IB and write all neccessary things 
> directly in code. For this button example, I would declare it in 
> ViewController.h like this:
> 
> @property (nonatomic, strong) UIButton *button;
> 
> In ViewController.m I would declare a method for the button action:
> 
> - (void) buttonAction:(id)sender {
>// some interesting code here
> }
> 
> Finally, one would create the button element either in the loadView: or 
> viewDidLoad: method in ViewController.m:
> 
> // initialized the button:
> self.button = [UIButton buttonWithType:UIButtonTypeSystem];
> // define the action method:
> [self.button addTarget:self target:@selector(buttonAction:) 
> forControlEvent:UIControlEventTouchUpInside];
> // set a button dimension:
> self.button.frame = CGRectMake(10, 10, 88, 44);
> // set a button title:
> [self.button setTitle:@"Button 1" forControlState:UIControlStateNormal];
> // add the button to your view hierarchy:
> [self.view addSubview:self.button];
> 
> You may take a look at the references of
> * UIViewController
> * UIview
> * UIControl
> * UIButton
> and some others on the iOS developer library for more details. Once you got 
> the hang of it, you are much faster than clicking around in IB and Apple's 
> documentation will provide you all information you need. Regrettably, most of 
> the introduction documents on the Apple Developer Portal rely on Interface 
> Builder, since this would be the preferred method for a sighted developer. So 
> far, I haven't found a really nice introduction for a VO user. If there is 
> someone out there knowing about, please let me know. There are some books 
> around for this purpose. I can recommend the iPhone cook book of Erica Sadun, 
> which is available on iBooks. However, it will cost a bit of money.
> 
> I hope this will help you a bit.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
> Download on the App Store:
> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
> ---
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> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
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> 
> Am 09.10.2013 um 20:39 schrieb Ray Campbell :
> 
>> Thanks, Jan. i really like working with xcode. Where can I find some 
>> documentation on how to connect controls to references in code 
>> programatically?
>> 
>> 
>> Ray Campbell
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:10 PM, "Jan Blüher, visorApps" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Travis and list,
>>> 
>>> I do use Xcode with VO for iOS development every day and really like it. 
>>> 95% or something like that can be done without sighted assistence. The 
>>> remaining 5% have do do with the very correct arrangement of images on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> Although Interface Builder is quite accessible, I do not use it a lot, 
>>> since I am faster with the programmatic approach. There might be other 
>>> issues in Mac development that I am not aware of, but I cannot imagine them.
>>> 
>>> I really do encourage all people to use Xcode. It is quite hard work at the 
>>> beginning, since it is a complex tool. However, once you got used to it, it 
>>> is really fun.
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>>> Download on the App Store:
>>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>>> ---
>>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>>> D-01187 Dresden
>>> Germany
>>> 
>>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>>> 

Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-10 Thread Jan Blüher, visorApps
Hi Ray,

you want to connect an Ui element that you defined in Interface Builder to your 
code, right? You may try to add the following line of code to your 
ViewController.h file:

@property (nonatomic, strong) IBOutlet UIButton *button;

where button is the name of your UIButton element. Depending on how you defined 
button in IB, there could be some variation in this line. So it might be a bit 
tricky to establish the connection by hand.I am not sure, wether there is a 
documentation about this mixed approach, since normally the developer would use 
the drag and drop method to do it.

As already mentioned, I do completely skip IB and write all neccessary things 
directly in code. For this button example, I would declare it in 
ViewController.h like this:

@property (nonatomic, strong) UIButton *button;

In ViewController.m I would declare a method for the button action:

- (void) buttonAction:(id)sender {
// some interesting code here
}

Finally, one would create the button element either in the loadView: or 
viewDidLoad: method in ViewController.m:

// initialized the button:
self.button = [UIButton buttonWithType:UIButtonTypeSystem];
// define the action method:
[self.button addTarget:self target:@selector(buttonAction:) 
forControlEvent:UIControlEventTouchUpInside];
// set a button dimension:
self.button.frame = CGRectMake(10, 10, 88, 44);
// set a button title:
[self.button setTitle:@"Button 1" forControlState:UIControlStateNormal];
// add the button to your view hierarchy:
[self.view addSubview:self.button];

You may take a look at the references of
* UIViewController
* UIview
* UIControl
* UIButton
and some others on the iOS developer library for more details. Once you got the 
hang of it, you are much faster than clicking around in IB and Apple's 
documentation will provide you all information you need. Regrettably, most of 
the introduction documents on the Apple Developer Portal rely on Interface 
Builder, since this would be the preferred method for a sighted developer. So 
far, I haven't found a really nice introduction for a VO user. If there is 
someone out there knowing about, please let me know. There are some books 
around for this purpose. I can recommend the iPhone cook book of Erica Sadun, 
which is available on iBooks. However, it will cost a bit of money.

I hope this will help you a bit.

Greetings

Jan

---
MouseKick - The mice are coming!
Download on the App Store:
http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
---
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Am 09.10.2013 um 20:39 schrieb Ray Campbell :

> Thanks, Jan. i really like working with xcode. Where can I find some 
> documentation on how to connect controls to references in code 
> programatically?
> 
> 
> Ray Campbell
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:10 PM, "Jan Blüher, visorApps" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Travis and list,
>> 
>> I do use Xcode with VO for iOS development every day and really like it. 95% 
>> or something like that can be done without sighted assistence. The remaining 
>> 5% have do do with the very correct arrangement of images on the screen.
>> 
>> Although Interface Builder is quite accessible, I do not use it a lot, since 
>> I am faster with the programmatic approach. There might be other issues in 
>> Mac development that I am not aware of, but I cannot imagine them.
>> 
>> I really do encourage all people to use Xcode. It is quite hard work at the 
>> beginning, since it is a complex tool. However, once you got used to it, it 
>> is really fun.
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> ---
>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>> Download on the App Store:
>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>> ---
>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Germany
>> 
>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>> web: http://visorApps.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>> 
>> tax number: DE281706766
>> 
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-09 Thread Ray Campbell
Thanks, Jan. i really like working with xcode. Where can I find some 
documentation on how to connect controls to references in code programatically?
 

Ray Campbell
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:10 PM, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
wrote:

> Hi Travis and list,
> 
> I do use Xcode with VO for iOS development every day and really like it. 95% 
> or something like that can be done without sighted assistence. The remaining 
> 5% have do do with the very correct arrangement of images on the screen.
> 
> Although Interface Builder is quite accessible, I do not use it a lot, since 
> I am faster with the programmatic approach. There might be other issues in 
> Mac development that I am not aware of, but I cannot imagine them.
> 
> I really do encourage all people to use Xcode. It is quite hard work at the 
> beginning, since it is a complex tool. However, once you got used to it, it 
> is really fun.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
> Download on the App Store:
> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-09 Thread Jan Blüher, visorApps
Hi Travis and list,

I do use Xcode with VO for iOS development every day and really like it. 95% or 
something like that can be done without sighted assistence. The remaining 5% 
have do do with the very correct arrangement of images on the screen.

Although Interface Builder is quite accessible, I do not use it a lot, since I 
am faster with the programmatic approach. There might be other issues in Mac 
development that I am not aware of, but I cannot imagine them.

I really do encourage all people to use Xcode. It is quite hard work at the 
beginning, since it is a complex tool. However, once you got used to it, it is 
really fun.

Greetings

Jan

---
MouseKick - The mice are coming!
Download on the App Store:
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---
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Bayreuther Str. 2
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Germany

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Am 09.10.2013 um 14:58 schrieb Travis Siegel :

> You've stumbled into the main concern for vo developers.  XCode has gotten 
> better with each successive release, but it still has a way to go (last I 
> checked) Honestly, you've managed to do more with it than I ever did, but 
> then again, I gave up trying after snowleopard was released.  All I can tell 
> you is that there are alternatives to XCode, but they come with their own set 
> of issues.  If you do manage to get XCode to behave properly, I'd be 
> interested in hearing how it was done.  I pretty much gave up developing for 
> osx entirely other than a few terminal apps here and there precisely because 
> of the horrible vo support in XCode and the shear amount of work required by 
> other methods.  Honestly, the only way to develop for osx (imo) is via java, 
> since it happily takes care of the whole gui environment for you.  However, 
> since apple's support for java keeps fluctuating, and sun and apple seem to 
> be at odds over who/how java should be handled on osx, I'm not sure java will 
> remain a viable option much longer either.
> 
> Lately, I've gone back to linux for about half of my computing usage.  I 
> switch between osx and linux depending on what I'm doing at any given moment. 
>  I honestly thought osx would be my 100 percent os there for a while, but the 
> lack of support for vi programmers has really put a crimp in that for me, so 
> I'm a dual osx/linux user again, and I'm happy with that.  So, if you do 
> manage to get osx to allow you to build a program from start to finish, and 
> you can do so without sighted assistance, and you can make it look the way 
> you want, by all means, let me know, at that point, it may be worth it for me 
> to take another look at osx for development, but until then, I'm staying with 
> my linux/osx combo.
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Re: Seeking Help with XCode

2013-10-09 Thread Travis Siegel
You've stumbled into the main concern for vo developers.  XCode has  
gotten better with each successive release, but it still has a way to  
go (last I checked) Honestly, you've managed to do more with it than I  
ever did, but then again, I gave up trying after snowleopard was  
released.  All I can tell you is that there are alternatives to XCode,  
but they come with their own set of issues.  If you do manage to get  
XCode to behave properly, I'd be interested in hearing how it was  
done.  I pretty much gave up developing for osx entirely other than a  
few terminal apps here and there precisely because of the horrible vo  
support in XCode and the shear amount of work required by other  
methods.  Honestly, the only way to develop for osx (imo) is via java,  
since it happily takes care of the whole gui environment for you.   
However, since apple's support for java keeps fluctuating, and sun and  
apple seem to be at odds over who/how java should be handled on osx,  
I'm not sure java will remain a viable option much longer either.


Lately, I've gone back to linux for about half of my computing usage.   
I switch between osx and linux depending on what I'm doing at any  
given moment.  I honestly thought osx would be my 100 percent os there  
for a while, but the lack of support for vi programmers has really put  
a crimp in that for me, so I'm a dual osx/linux user again, and I'm  
happy with that.  So, if you do manage to get osx to allow you to  
build a program from start to finish, and you can do so without  
sighted assistance, and you can make it look the way you want, by all  
means, let me know, at that point, it may be worth it for me to take  
another look at osx for development, but until then, I'm staying with  
my linux/osx combo.


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