RE: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-10 Thread David Griffith
Well your options are then to purchase iTunes Match or recreate a library on
your MacBook with  original music sources. 

If you take the latter approach you will need really to decide which library
you wish your iPod to be synched with. If you synch it with your Mavericks
computer whilst it has no music on it this will delete the existing music on
the iPod.

You can nominate individual files to synch  by going through your library
and checking and unchecking them but this is a very tedious affair I find.

To my mind Apple are just encouraging people to invest in Match with this
approach.



David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 10 March 2014 09:16
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Transferring Music to Mac

It is music which was transferred to my iPod and iPad Mini via iTunes but 
from a Windows PC so does not appear on the Mac.  The music purchased 
through the iTunes store of course does appear accross all devices.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac


This depends on  a number of things.
1. whether the music was synched using your Maverick MacBook
2. or the music came from another iTunes installation such  as one on a PC.
3. If it is music you have bought on iTunes.

If it music synched from your Maverick computer it is already there.
If it is music you have bought on iTunes you can download it onto any of
your max 5 signed in iTunes installation but you need to amend settings to
allow this -
If it is from another iTunes installation on another computer  then this is
more complicated.

If you are asking if you can use your iPod to transfer music from one
computer to another like a USB drive this is not normally allowed and is
certainly actively discouraged by Apple.  I think there may be some
unofficial Mac apps which can help but you will have to buy these.  From
what I have seen on their web sites Apple do not want to support this and
all the messages I see on their sites stress that you should never regard
your iPhone/iPad/iPod as a backup storage device. You should never consider
it possible to transfer music content  back off these devices.

There are 2 reasons for this. Firstly Apple do not want their devices to
support a potential function of music piracy.  They say that on every iTunes
library you should recreate your library using original sources CDs
external drives etc.

Secondly and more cynically, they want you to pay for this kind of
flexibility through something called iTunes Match.

the easiest way to achieve what I think you want is probably to subscribe to
itunes Match for £21.99 for at least a year. This allows you to upload your
entire iTunes Library into the cloud and can then download or stream it onto
a specified number of devices,  including your MacBook.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 09 March 2014 23:01
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Transferring Music to Mac

I have music on the iPod Touch which was transferred via iTunes but someone
did that for me, can I sinc the iPod touch music to the Mac?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac


> You can play music from an external or internal drive.
>
> You do not have to use iTunes to play Music on the Mac.   In some ways
> using
> VLC as your default music player is more straightforward and less of a
> learning curve .
> Google VLC to download the free player from Videoland.
> You can also create folder playlists and play other media types with VLC
> including DVDs.
>
> However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need
> to
> get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
> There is a learning curve to iTunes so I suggest you should not expect to
> understand it all in an hour but instead take it slowly. A tip on this
> list
> that Esther gave me is the use of the VO J shortcut to jump to relevant
> sections of the program.
>
> I would also personally recommend column browser view.
> You can make iTunes work but unless you have used it on other platforms it
> does take a bit of getting used to.
>
> I use a combination of VLC and itunes for different functions. VLC is my
> default player from Finder but I do use iTunes as well.
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 09 March

Re: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-10 Thread Eleanor Burke
It is music which was transferred to my iPod and iPad Mini via iTunes but 
from a Windows PC so does not appear on the Mac.  The music purchased 
through the iTunes store of course does appear accross all devices.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac


This depends on  a number of things.
1. whether the music was synched using your Maverick MacBook
2. or the music came from another iTunes installation such  as one on a PC.
3. If it is music you have bought on iTunes.

If it music synched from your Maverick computer it is already there.
If it is music you have bought on iTunes you can download it onto any of
your max 5 signed in iTunes installation but you need to amend settings to
allow this -
If it is from another iTunes installation on another computer  then this is
more complicated.

If you are asking if you can use your iPod to transfer music from one
computer to another like a USB drive this is not normally allowed and is
certainly actively discouraged by Apple.  I think there may be some
unofficial Mac apps which can help but you will have to buy these.  From
what I have seen on their web sites Apple do not want to support this and
all the messages I see on their sites stress that you should never regard
your iPhone/iPad/iPod as a backup storage device. You should never consider
it possible to transfer music content  back off these devices.

There are 2 reasons for this. Firstly Apple do not want their devices to
support a potential function of music piracy.  They say that on every iTunes
library you should recreate your library using original sources CDs
external drives etc.

Secondly and more cynically, they want you to pay for this kind of
flexibility through something called iTunes Match.

the easiest way to achieve what I think you want is probably to subscribe to
itunes Match for £21.99 for at least a year. This allows you to upload your
entire iTunes Library into the cloud and can then download or stream it onto
a specified number of devices,  including your MacBook.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 09 March 2014 23:01
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Transferring Music to Mac

I have music on the iPod Touch which was transferred via iTunes but someone
did that for me, can I sinc the iPod touch music to the Mac?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac



You can play music from an external or internal drive.

You do not have to use iTunes to play Music on the Mac.   In some ways
using
VLC as your default music player is more straightforward and less of a
learning curve .
Google VLC to download the free player from Videoland.
You can also create folder playlists and play other media types with VLC
including DVDs.

However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need
to
get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
There is a learning curve to iTunes so I suggest you should not expect to
understand it all in an hour but instead take it slowly. A tip on this
list
that Esther gave me is the use of the VO J shortcut to jump to relevant
sections of the program.

I would also personally recommend column browser view.
You can make iTunes work but unless you have used it on other platforms it
does take a bit of getting used to.

I use a combination of VLC and itunes for different functions. VLC is my
default player from Finder but I do use iTunes as well.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 09 March 2014 19:29
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Transferring Music to Mac

Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over
the
music folder from my USB Flash drive?

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RE: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-10 Thread David Griffith
This depends on  a number of things.
1. whether the music was synched using your Maverick MacBook 
2. or the music came from another iTunes installation such  as one on a PC.
3. If it is music you have bought on iTunes.

If it music synched from your Maverick computer it is already there.
If it is music you have bought on iTunes you can download it onto any of
your max 5 signed in iTunes installation but you need to amend settings to
allow this - 
If it is from another iTunes installation on another computer  then this is
more complicated.

If you are asking if you can use your iPod to transfer music from one
computer to another like a USB drive this is not normally allowed and is
certainly actively discouraged by Apple.  I think there may be some
unofficial Mac apps which can help but you will have to buy these.  From
what I have seen on their web sites Apple do not want to support this and
all the messages I see on their sites stress that you should never regard
your iPhone/iPad/iPod as a backup storage device. You should never consider
it possible to transfer music content  back off these devices.

There are 2 reasons for this. Firstly Apple do not want their devices to
support a potential function of music piracy.  They say that on every iTunes
library you should recreate your library using original sources CDs
external drives etc.

Secondly and more cynically, they want you to pay for this kind of
flexibility through something called iTunes Match.

the easiest way to achieve what I think you want is probably to subscribe to
itunes Match for £21.99 for at least a year. This allows you to upload your
entire iTunes Library into the cloud and can then download or stream it onto
a specified number of devices,  including your MacBook.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 09 March 2014 23:01
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Transferring Music to Mac

I have music on the iPod Touch which was transferred via iTunes but someone 
did that for me, can I sinc the iPod touch music to the Mac?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac


> You can play music from an external or internal drive.
>
> You do not have to use iTunes to play Music on the Mac.   In some ways 
> using
> VLC as your default music player is more straightforward and less of a
> learning curve .
> Google VLC to download the free player from Videoland.
> You can also create folder playlists and play other media types with VLC
> including DVDs.
>
> However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need 
> to
> get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
> There is a learning curve to iTunes so I suggest you should not expect to
> understand it all in an hour but instead take it slowly. A tip on this 
> list
> that Esther gave me is the use of the VO J shortcut to jump to relevant
> sections of the program.
>
> I would also personally recommend column browser view.
> You can make iTunes work but unless you have used it on other platforms it
> does take a bit of getting used to.
>
> I use a combination of VLC and itunes for different functions. VLC is my
> default player from Finder but I do use iTunes as well.
> David Griffith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 09 March 2014 19:29
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Transferring Music to Mac
>
> Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over 
> the
> music folder from my USB Flash drive?
>
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Re: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
If it is in the iTunes library you don't have to worry about it as it is 
already there.

If this is not what you are  wondering please don't hesitate to ask.

Take care.
On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> I have music on the iPod Touch which was transferred via iTunes but someone 
> did that for me, can I sinc the iPod touch music to the Mac?
> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
> 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:24 PM
> Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac
> 
> 
>> You can play music from an external or internal drive.
>> 
>> You do not have to use iTunes to play Music on the Mac.   In some ways using
>> VLC as your default music player is more straightforward and less of a
>> learning curve .
>> Google VLC to download the free player from Videoland.
>> You can also create folder playlists and play other media types with VLC
>> including DVDs.
>> 
>> However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need to
>> get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
>> There is a learning curve to iTunes so I suggest you should not expect to
>> understand it all in an hour but instead take it slowly. A tip on this list
>> that Esther gave me is the use of the VO J shortcut to jump to relevant
>> sections of the program.
>> 
>> I would also personally recommend column browser view.
>> You can make iTunes work but unless you have used it on other platforms it
>> does take a bit of getting used to.
>> 
>> I use a combination of VLC and itunes for different functions. VLC is my
>> default player from Finder but I do use iTunes as well.
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 09 March 2014 19:29
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Transferring Music to Mac
>> 
>> Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over the
>> music folder from my USB Flash drive?
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Re: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-09 Thread Eleanor Burke
I have music on the iPod Touch which was transferred via iTunes but someone 
did that for me, can I sinc the iPod touch music to the Mac?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Transferring Music to Mac



You can play music from an external or internal drive.

You do not have to use iTunes to play Music on the Mac.   In some ways 
using

VLC as your default music player is more straightforward and less of a
learning curve .
Google VLC to download the free player from Videoland.
You can also create folder playlists and play other media types with VLC
including DVDs.

However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need 
to

get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
There is a learning curve to iTunes so I suggest you should not expect to
understand it all in an hour but instead take it slowly. A tip on this 
list

that Esther gave me is the use of the VO J shortcut to jump to relevant
sections of the program.

I would also personally recommend column browser view.
You can make iTunes work but unless you have used it on other platforms it
does take a bit of getting used to.

I use a combination of VLC and itunes for different functions. VLC is my
default player from Finder but I do use iTunes as well.
David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 09 March 2014 19:29
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Transferring Music to Mac

Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over 
the

music folder from my USB Flash drive?

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Re: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami

On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:24 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

> However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need to
> get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
Actually I quit using iTunes for podcasts and now make use of the downcast app. 
it is easier to learn nd way more flexible.

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RE: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-09 Thread David Griffith
You can play music from an external or internal drive.

You do not have to use iTunes to play Music on the Mac.   In some ways using
VLC as your default music player is more straightforward and less of a
learning curve .
Google VLC to download the free player from Videoland.
You can also create folder playlists and play other media types with VLC
including DVDs.

However if you want to transfer Music to a iPhone or iPad you really need to
get to grips with itunes.  This is also true for things like podcasts etc.
There is a learning curve to iTunes so I suggest you should not expect to
understand it all in an hour but instead take it slowly. A tip on this list
that Esther gave me is the use of the VO J shortcut to jump to relevant
sections of the program.

I would also personally recommend column browser view.
You can make iTunes work but unless you have used it on other platforms it
does take a bit of getting used to.

I use a combination of VLC and itunes for different functions. VLC is my
default player from Finder but I do use iTunes as well.
David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 09 March 2014 19:29
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Transferring Music to Mac

Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over the 
music folder from my USB Flash drive? 

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Re: Transferring Music to Mac

2014-03-09 Thread Josh Gregory
Depends on what you mean, you can transferred over to your Mac and it will 
automatically open an iTunes

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> On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:28 PM, "Eleanor Burke"  
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> 
> Do I have to go through iTunes to do this or can I simply transfer over the 
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