Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
iOS7 is strictly off limits for this group. As a registered developer myself, it would be very wrong of me to encourage speculation regarding either iOS7 or Mavericks. Apple announced Mavericks at the WWC but all the same it is not something we encourage for discussion or speculation on list. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Vic. Australia: +61 38 8205930 Vic. Australia +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 12 Jun 2013, at 22:37, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
If you want to test the beta by all means go and get it. On 6/12/13, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question, you will find the answer. I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early beta version of the oS. On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
Well, I can live with bugs, but wondered generally how rough it was for a VO user. Bugs are one thing, but rendering the phone unusable is quite another. I understand that it is easier to downgrade back to 6 than it was to downgrade to prier versions. Thanks for all replies so far. Geoff - Original Message - From: Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7. Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question, you will find the answer. I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early beta version of the oS. On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
Eek, Snap! Ihh, That was kind a rude. The guy was just asking a question, and counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat. Frankly, I think that was a very valid thing to ask. What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. I mean, really? Sir? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7. Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question, you will find the answer. I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early beta version of the oS. On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence why I sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw. Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move that this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and mavrics should not be discussed on this or any other places until said operating systems, that being mavrics and ios7, are released to the public this fall. Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm not moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble as this list does have a searchable archive anyone can access. Be blessed and have a good evening all. On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Eek, Snap! Ihh, That was kind a rude. The guy was just asking a question, and counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat. Frankly, I think that was a very valid thing to ask. What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. I mean, really? Sir? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7. Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question, you will find the answer. I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early beta version of the oS. On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
This discussion and all similar subjects not infringing upon the NDA to be more acurate. Discuss ios7 and osx10.9 to the hills with speculations rumours and feature wishlists obviously. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 13/06/2013, at 12:29 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence why I sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw. Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move that this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and mavrics should not be discussed on this or any other places until said operating systems, that being mavrics and ios7, are released to the public this fall. Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm not moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble as this list does have a searchable archive anyone can access. Be blessed and have a good evening all. On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Eek, Snap! Ihh, That was kind a rude. The guy was just asking a question, and counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat. Frankly, I think that was a very valid thing to ask. What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. I mean, really? Sir? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7. Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question, you will find the answer. I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early beta version of the oS. On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail
Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
I suspect that Sarah is mostly correct. Its murky ground here. The fact that IOS7 and mavrics beta code is available to anyone who opts to fork over $99 to Apple is public knowledge, as are many up-coming features. I would think that such discussions are topical. If I signed the NDA and installed IOS7, and experienced problems, I suspect that I am bound by the NDA not to dump that kind of information on a public list, which is why I was inviting private contact. Thanks again for all who have responded both publicly and privately. Geoff - Original Message - From: Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7. This discussion and all similar subjects not infringing upon the NDA to be more acurate. Discuss ios7 and osx10.9 to the hills with speculations rumours and feature wishlists obviously. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 13/06/2013, at 12:29 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence why I sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw. Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move that this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and mavrics should not be discussed on this or any other places until said operating systems, that being mavrics and ios7, are released to the public this fall. Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm not moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble as this list does have a searchable archive anyone can access. Be blessed and have a good evening all. On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: Eek, Snap! Ihh, That was kind a rude. The guy was just asking a question, and counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat. Frankly, I think that was a very valid thing to ask. What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. I mean, really? Sir? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7. Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question, you will find the answer. I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early beta version of the oS. On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the IOS7 beta. A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very rough around the edges. Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it is released. My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle. If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would be greatly appreciated! TIA, and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free
