Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-12 Thread krystal watson 
or we can always do what i do and ask a friend to take a picture for us smiley 
i i don't think i can get the new i phone as i just got the i phone 4 and i am 
locked in a plan for 2 years so not sure if i can upgrade to the latest phone 
in that plan sad smiley face 
On 09/10/2011, at 3:45 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

> It is worth it because as far as I am concerned why should a blind person be 
> excluded from taking photos or recording video. Just some thoughts.
> 
> On 08/10/2011 17:18, william lomas wrote:
>> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
>> camera ne worth it for blind users?
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>   Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  
>>> This is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I 
>>> ordered my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri 
>>> and the better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
 that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
 praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
 iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers 
 when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
 unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
 anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
 my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, 
 but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark 
 hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I 
 already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, 
 I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but 
 probably would not have taken the leap.
 
 The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
 wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited 
 below:
 
 http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
 
 Best regards,
 Geoff
 
 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Geoff Waaler 
>From what I've seen playing with Prizmo there is no issue whatsoever with OCR 
>in IOS!!  As stated previously I can get readable results on my 3GS despite a 
>complete lack of light perception.  Other voiceOver dependent users report 
>consistently reliable results using an iPhone 4.

Best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Candie Stiles 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 AM
  Subject: Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?


  I wonder if apple would consider developing it's own OCR app. By doing this 
they could eliminate the restrictions and create an app that produced excellent 
results.
  Candie

  On Oct 8, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

  > The real issue with OCR is the restrictions Apple has placed on what 
developers can do, I've heard that prismo works pretty well, but there are 
several things developers cannot do with regard to camera focus that can be 
done with android and Symbian. Hopefully apple will open the camera interface a 
bit more to developers, but who knows if that will happen.
  > On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:18 AM, william lomas wrote:
  > 
  >> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
camera ne worth it for blind users?
  >> 
  >> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
  >> 
  >>> Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  
This is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
better processor are simply worth the money to me.
  >>> 
  >>> Take Care
  >>> John Panarese
  >>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
  >>> 
  >>>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 
5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very 
people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't 
wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this model would 
add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is different since I 
have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it 
was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its 
arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier 
subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.
  >>>> 
  >>>> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited 
below:
  >>>> 
  >>>> 
http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
  >>>> 
  >>>> Best regards,
  >>>> Geoff
  >>>> 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Candie Stiles 
I wonder if apple would consider developing it's own OCR app. By doing this 
they could eliminate the restrictions and create an app that produced excellent 
results.
Candie

On Oct 8, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> The real issue with OCR is the restrictions Apple has placed on what 
> developers can do, I've heard that prismo works pretty well, but there are 
> several things developers cannot do with regard to camera focus that can be 
> done with android and Symbian. Hopefully apple will open the camera interface 
> a bit more to developers, but who knows if that will happen.
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:18 AM, william lomas wrote:
> 
>> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
>> camera ne worth it for blind users?
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>> Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
>>> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
>>> my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
>>> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
 that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
 praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
 iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers 
 when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
 unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
 anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
 my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, 
 but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark 
 hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I 
 already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, 
 I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but 
 probably would not have taken the leap.
 
 The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
 wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited 
 below:
 
 http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
 
 Best regards,
 Geoff
 
 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Mike Arrigo 
The real issue with OCR is the restrictions Apple has placed on what developers 
can do, I've heard that prismo works pretty well, but there are several things 
developers cannot do with regard to camera focus that can be done with android 
and Symbian. Hopefully apple will open the camera interface a bit more to 
developers, but who knows if that will happen.
On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:18 AM, william lomas wrote:

> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
> camera ne worth it for blind users?
> 
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>  Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
>> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
>> my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
>> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
>>> that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
>>> praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
>>> iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when 
>>> these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
>>> unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
>>> anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
>>> my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but 
>>> I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred 
>>> Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I already had a 
>>> 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I 
>>> would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would 
>>> not have taken the leap.
>>> 
>>> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
>>> wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:
>>> 
>>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:39 AM
>>> Subject: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Nicolai Svendsen 
Hi!

You also have to consider that these are only example phrases. I highly doubt 
it is only limited to these sayings, even if you change the phrasing a little 
bit. The article also pointed this out.

Even so, if it can't do what you want, chances are it may be able to in the 
future. I'm personally a little excited by this feature, but I doubt I'd 
personally be using it much since old habits die hard.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 8, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I did not see it inthe list of commands so you sould need to open the phone 
> and open the app manually. that does not mean it's not beeing worked on 
> though. as they said in the vid it is beta.
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Orin wrote:
> 
>> As a first time iPhone user with Sprint, I'm looking forward to the 4S. I 
>> have to admit, I'm also interested in Siri as well. I wonder if I could just 
>> say "open Heytel" or something and it'd just open the app for me rather than 
>> unlocking the phone, navigating to the page, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> Orin
>> orin8...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
>> Skype: orin1112
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a pretty  decent iPhone OCR app called Prizmo , which I've 
>>> been using with marginal success on my 3GS.  I wouldn't necessarily  write 
>>> checks against a balance shown in my Prizmo result, but often obtain 
>>> understandable text.  I'm no camera buff, but assume that augmentation of 
>>> the capacity from 3MP to 8MP and addition of the flash will dramatically 
>>> improve my OCR results.  More over, pages should be recognized more quickly 
>>> since this app is using on board resources rather than the cloud, hence the 
>>> faster processor will be a factor.
>>> 
>>> This is without mentioning the 60% increase in my battery life and 
>>> hopefully the other party will stop hearing the call waiting signal and 
>>> voiceOver output (even when spoken through the headphones).  To reiterate, 
>>> I'm really looking forward to the 4S :)!!
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: william lomas 
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
>>> camera ne worth it for blind users?
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  
>>>> This is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I 
>>>> ordered my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri 
>>>> and the better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> John Panarese
>>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
>>>>> that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
>>>>> praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
>>>>> iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers 
>>>>> when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
>>>>> unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
>>>>> anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  
>>>>> Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade 
>>>>> eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh 
>>>>> Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I 
>>>>> already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized 
>>>>> upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
>>>>> improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
>>>>> wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source 
>>>>> sited below:
>>>>>

Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Sarah Alawami 
I did not see it inthe list of commands so you sould need to open the phone and 
open the app manually. that does not mean it's not beeing worked on though. as 
they said in the vid it is beta.
On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Orin wrote:

> As a first time iPhone user with Sprint, I'm looking forward to the 4S. I 
> have to admit, I'm also interested in Siri as well. I wonder if I could just 
> say "open Heytel" or something and it'd just open the app for me rather than 
> unlocking the phone, navigating to the page, etc.
> 
> 
> Orin
> orin8...@gmail.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
> Skype: orin1112
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> There is a pretty  decent iPhone OCR app called Prizmo , which I've been 
>> using with marginal success on my 3GS.  I wouldn't necessarily  write checks 
>> against a balance shown in my Prizmo result, but often obtain understandable 
>> text.  I'm no camera buff, but assume that augmentation of the capacity from 
>> 3MP to 8MP and addition of the flash will dramatically improve my OCR 
>> results.  More over, pages should be recognized more quickly since this app 
>> is using on board resources rather than the cloud, hence the faster 
>> processor will be a factor.
>> 
>> This is without mentioning the 60% increase in my battery life and hopefully 
>> the other party will stop hearing the call waiting signal and voiceOver 
>> output (even when spoken through the headphones).  To reiterate, I'm really 
>> looking forward to the 4S :)!!
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: william lomas 
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
>> 
>> 
>> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
>> camera ne worth it for blind users?
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>> Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
>>> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
>>> my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
>>> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
>>>> that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
>>>> praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
>>>> iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers 
>>>> when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
>>>> unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
>>>> anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
>>>> my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, 
>>>> but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark 
>>>> hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I 
>>>> already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, 
>>>> I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but 
>>>> probably would not have taken the leap.
>>>> 
>>>> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
>>>> wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited 
>>>> below:
>>>> 
>>>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Geoff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: william lomas 
>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:39 AM
>>>> Subject: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Orin 
As a first time iPhone user with Sprint, I'm looking forward to the 4S. I have 
to admit, I'm also interested in Siri as well. I wonder if I could just say 
"open Heytel" or something and it'd just open the app for me rather than 
unlocking the phone, navigating to the page, etc.


Orin
orin8...@gmail.com
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
Skype: orin1112



On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> There is a pretty  decent iPhone OCR app called Prizmo , which I've been 
> using with marginal success on my 3GS.  I wouldn't necessarily  write checks 
> against a balance shown in my Prizmo result, but often obtain understandable 
> text.  I'm no camera buff, but assume that augmentation of the capacity from 
> 3MP to 8MP and addition of the flash will dramatically improve my OCR 
> results.  More over, pages should be recognized more quickly since this app 
> is using on board resources rather than the cloud, hence the faster processor 
> will be a factor.
> 
> This is without mentioning the 60% increase in my battery life and hopefully 
> the other party will stop hearing the call waiting signal and voiceOver 
> output (even when spoken through the headphones).  To reiterate, I'm really 
> looking forward to the 4S :)!!
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: william lomas 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:18 PM
>  Subject: Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
> 
> 
>  hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
> camera ne worth it for blind users?
> 
>  On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>  Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
>> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
>> my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
>> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
>>> that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
>>> praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
>>> iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when 
>>> these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
>>> unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
>>> anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
>>> my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but 
>>> I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred 
>>> Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I already had a 
>>> 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I 
>>> would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would 
>>> not have taken the leap.
>>> 
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>>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
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>>> 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Geoff Waaler 
There is a pretty  decent iPhone OCR app called Prizmo , which I've been 
using with marginal success on my 3GS.  I wouldn't necessarily  write checks 
against a balance shown in my Prizmo result, but often obtain understandable 
text.  I'm no camera buff, but assume that augmentation of the capacity from 
3MP to 8MP and addition of the flash will dramatically improve my OCR results.  
More over, pages should be recognized more quickly since this app is using on 
board resources rather than the cloud, hence the faster processor will be a 
factor.

This is without mentioning the 60% increase in my battery life and hopefully 
the other party will stop hearing the call waiting signal and voiceOver output 
(even when spoken through the headphones).  To reiterate, I'm really looking 
forward to the 4S :)!!

Best regards.
Geoff


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  Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:18 PM
  Subject: Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?


  hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
camera ne worth it for blind users?

  On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:

  >   Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  
This is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
better processor are simply worth the money to me.
  > 
  > Take Care
  > John Panarese
  > jpanar...@mac-access.net
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
  > 
  >> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 
5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very 
people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't 
wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this model would 
add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is different since I 
have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it 
was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its 
arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier 
subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.
  >> 
  >> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited 
below:
  >> 
  >> 
http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
  >> 
  >> Best regards,
  >> Geoff
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread chris hallsworth 
Lol don't think sighted people can believe we can use an iDevice in the 
first place.


On 08/10/2011 17:50, Sarah Alawami wrote:

I think wiht th faces detection and I'm not sure how that owuld work  with vo  
if at all but if it did that would make it a bit easier to snap pics.I have a 
few on my facebook that I took and my sighted friends can't believe it lol!
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:40 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:


Some people like to have photographs to hare with their families and friends. 
Just because we cannot enjoy them doesn't mean we should not take them. 
Although taking them can be very hit and mis of course.

TC :)
James
On 8 Oct 2011, at 17:18, william lomas wrote:


hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a camera 
ne worth it for blind users?

On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:


Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This is 
what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered my 4S 
without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the better 
processor are simply worth the money to me.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that 
many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises 
had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?!  
Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very people 
were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't wait to 
get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this model would add LTE 
support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS 
and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was 
possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its 
arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier 
subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.

The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong

Best regards,
Geoff


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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Sarah Alawami 
I think wiht th faces detection and I'm not sure how that owuld work  with vo  
if at all but if it did that would make it a bit easier to snap pics.I have a 
few on my facebook that I took and my sighted friends can't believe it lol!
On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:40 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:

> Some people like to have photographs to hare with their families and friends. 
> Just because we cannot enjoy them doesn't mean we should not take them. 
> Although taking them can be very hit and mis of course.
> 
> TC :)
> James 
> On 8 Oct 2011, at 17:18, william lomas wrote:
> 
>> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
>> camera ne worth it for blind users?
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>> Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
>>> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
>>> my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
>>> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
 that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
 praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
 iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers 
 when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
 unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
 anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
 my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, 
 but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark 
 hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I 
 already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, 
 I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but 
 probably would not have taken the leap.
 
 The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, 
 wrong, wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited 
 below:
 
 http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
 
 Best regards,
 Geoff
 
 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread chris hallsworth 
It is worth it because as far as I am concerned why should a blind 
person be excluded from taking photos or recording video. Just some 
thoughts.


On 08/10/2011 17:18, william lomas wrote:

hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a camera 
ne worth it for blind users?

On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:


   Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered my 
4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the better 
processor are simply worth the money to me.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that 
many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises 
had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?!  
Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very people 
were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't wait to 
get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this model would add LTE 
support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS 
and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was 
possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its 
arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier 
subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.

The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong

Best regards,
Geoff


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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread James AUSTIN 
Some people like to have photographs to hare with their families and friends. 
Just because we cannot enjoy them doesn't mean we should not take them. 
Although taking them can be very hit and mis of course.

TC :)
James 
On 8 Oct 2011, at 17:18, william lomas wrote:

> hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a 
> camera ne worth it for blind users?
> 
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>  Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
>> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered 
>> my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
>> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
>>> that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
>>> praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
>>> iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when 
>>> these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 
>>> unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't 
>>> anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps 
>>> my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but 
>>> I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred 
>>> Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I already had a 
>>> 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I 
>>> would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would 
>>> not have taken the leap.
>>> 
>>> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
>>> wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:
>>> 
>>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> 
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2011-10-08 Thread william lomas 
hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a camera 
ne worth it for blind users?

On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>   Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
> is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered my 
> 4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the 
> better processor are simply worth the money to me.
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@mac-access.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect 
>> that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's 
>> praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the 
>> iPhone 5?!?!  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when 
>> these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, 
>> and couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that 
>> this model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is 
>> different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 
>> GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am 
>> anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet 
>> eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been 
>> tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.
>> 
>> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
>> wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:
>> 
>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Geoff
>> 
>> 
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>> Subject: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
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2011-10-08 Thread John Panarese 
   Absolutely, Jeff.  This is exactly why we are getting the negativity.  This 
is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them.  I ordered my 
4S without reservations or any apprehensions.  The camera, Siri and the better 
processor are simply worth the money to me.

Take Care
John Panarese
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> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that 
> many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises 
> had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?! 
>  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very 
> people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and 
> couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this 
> model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is 
> different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 
> GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am 
> anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet 
> eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been 
> tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.
> 
> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread James AUSTIN 
Hi Geoff
This subject line is very subjective.

I suspect you're right. Personally, I was quite unimpressed with the keynote, 
and when the iPhone 4S was announced, you could almost hear the collective 
sighs of disappointment. It strikes as very strange, that so many people are 
criticising the iPhone 4S, particularly as no-one has one yet.  As you said, if 
they had called this the "iPhone 5", we might not be seeing such discontent.

TC :)
James 
On 8 Oct 2011, at 15:32, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that 
> many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises 
> had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?! 
>  Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very 
> people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and 
> couldn't wait to get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this 
> model would add LTE support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is 
> different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 
> GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am 
> anxiously awaiting its arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet 
> eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been 
> tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.
> 
> The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
> wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:
> 
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong
> 
> Best regards,
> Geoff
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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Dane Trethowan 

Well you know how it is, just a lot of noise about nothing really.

Frankly those who have speculated about the next Iphone have been 
guessing and this is precisely the reason why I don't take much notice 
of anyone's speculation about a product until its actually released.


I have no problem with the Iphone 4S or whatever its called, s stands 
for speed and the 4S is faster than the 4 just as the 3GS was faster 
than the 3G.


What it means to me personally is that I now get an Iphone 4 to replace 
my Iphone 3GS at a bargain price which is exactly what I've been waiting 
for.




On 9/10/2011 1:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that 
many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises 
had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?!  
Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very people 
were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't wait to 
get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this model would add LTE 
support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS 
and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was 
possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its 
arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier 
subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.

The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong

Best regards,
Geoff


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Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?

2011-10-08 Thread Geoff Waaler 
I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that 
many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises 
had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?!  
Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very people 
were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't wait to 
get their hands on one.  It wasn't anticipated that this model would add LTE 
support, and it didn't.  Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS 
and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was 
possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its 
arrival!!  If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier 
subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S 
improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap.

The following article entitled "why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, 
wrong" presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong

Best regards,
Geoff


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