Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

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On 12 Jun 2013, at 22:37, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
> 
> I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the 
> IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very 
> rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before 
> it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without violating any 
> NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and 
> use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle.
> 
> If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes 
> would be greatly appreciated!
> 

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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Phil Halton]

I thought it was a pretty cool remark. I mean really... Sitting in a dark 
room alone? That was cool - kind a Zen. And, I'm sure the guy could handle 
it okay on his own. here's hoping for more.


- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Gilland" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Eek, Snap!

Ihh,  That was kind a rude.  The guy was just asking a question, and 
counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that 
hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat.  Frankly, I think 
that was a very valid thing to ask.


What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance 
things. I mean, really? Sir?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Tyrer" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to 
the

IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about 
IOS7
before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
violating
any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to 
install
and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 
development

cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private 
notes

would be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Geoff Waaler]

I suspect that Sarah is mostly correct.  Its murky ground here.  The fact 
that IOS7 and mavrics beta code is available to anyone who opts to fork over 
$99 to Apple is public knowledge, as are many up-coming features.  I would 
think that such discussions are topical.


If I signed the NDA and installed IOS7, and experienced problems, I suspect 
that I am bound by the NDA not to dump that kind of information on a public 
list, which is why I was inviting private contact.


Thanks again for all who have responded both publicly and privately.

Geoff



- Original Message - 
From: "Danny Noonan" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.


This discussion and all similar subjects not infringing upon the NDA to be 
more acurate. Discuss ios7 and osx10.9 to the hills with speculations 
rumours and feature wishlists obviously.




Danny.
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/06/2013, at 12:29 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence 
why I sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw.


Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move 
that this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and 
mavrics should not be discussed on this or any other places until said 
operating systems, that being mavrics and ios7, are released to the 
public this fall.


Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm 
not moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble 
as this list does have a searchable archive anyone can access.


Be blessed and have a good evening all.
On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland  
wrote:



Eek, Snap!

Ihh,  That was kind a rude.  The guy was just asking a question, and 
counter to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that 
hardly anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat.  Frankly, I 
think that was a very valid thing to ask.


What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance 
things. I mean, really? Sir?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Tyrer" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access 
to the
IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta 
is
very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about 
IOS7
before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
violating
any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to 
install
and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 
development

cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private 
notes

would be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Danny Noonan]

This discussion and all similar subjects not infringing upon the NDA to be more 
acurate. Discuss ios7 and osx10.9 to the hills with speculations rumours and 
feature wishlists obviously. 



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/06/2013, at 12:29 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence why I 
> sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw. 
> 
> Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move 
> that this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and mavrics 
> should not be discussed on this or any other places until said operating 
> systems, that being mavrics and ios7, are released to the public this fall.
> 
> Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm not 
> moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble as this 
> list does have a searchable archive anyone can access.
> 
> Be blessed and have a good evening all.
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> Eek, Snap!
>> 
>> Ihh,  That was kind a rude.  The guy was just asking a question, and counter 
>> to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly 
>> anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat.  Frankly, I think that was 
>> a very valid thing to ask.
>> 
>> What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. 
>> I mean, really? Sir?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Tyrer" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
>> 
>> 
>>> Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
>>> dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
>>> you will find the answer.
>>> 
>>> I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
>>> beta version of the oS.
>>> 
>>> On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the
>>>> IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
>>>> very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
>>>> before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
>>>> violating
>>>> any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install
>>>> and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development
>>>> cycle.
>>>> 
>>>> If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
>>>> would be greatly appreciated!
>>>> 
>>>> TIA, and best regards.
>>>> Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Sarah k Alawami]

I think this discussion is in violation of the nda of a developer hence why I 
sent him a message off list just to be safe. Hope that helped btw. 

Whereas this discussion is probably in violation of apple's nda I so move that 
this discussion and all further discussions regarding ios and mavrics should 
not be discussed on this or any other places until said operating systems, that 
being mavrics and ios7, are released to the public this fall.

Take care, and sorry to be harsh but I take the apple nda seriously. I'm not 
moderator of this list but I don't want to see anyone get in trouble as this 
list does have a searchable archive anyone can access.

Be blessed and have a good evening all.
On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> Eek, Snap!
> 
> Ihh,  That was kind a rude.  The guy was just asking a question, and counter 
> to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly 
> anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat.  Frankly, I think that was a 
> very valid thing to ask.
> 
> What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. I 
> mean, really? Sir?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Tyrer" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.
> 
> 
>> Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
>> dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
>> you will find the answer.
>> 
>> I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
>> beta version of the oS.
>> 
>> On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the
>>> IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
>>> very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
>>> before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without violating
>>> any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install
>>> and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development
>>> cycle.
>>> 
>>> If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
>>> would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> TIA, and best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Chris Gilland]

Eek, Snap!

Ihh,  That was kind a rude.  The guy was just asking a question, and counter 
to your opinion, it's one of many, so I'd not just assume that hardly 
anyone's gonna try it, and jump down his throat.  Frankly, I think that was 
a very valid thing to ask.


What would be the point of a beta, if no one came forward to chance things. 
I mean, really? Sir?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Tyrer" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to 
the

IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
violating
any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to 
install
and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 
development

cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
would be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Geoff Waaler]

Well, I can live with bugs, but wondered generally how rough it was for a VO 
user.  Bugs are one thing, but rendering the phone unusable is quite 
another.  I understand that it is easier to downgrade back to 6 than it was 
to downgrade to prier versions.


Thanks for all replies so far.
Geoff



- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Tyrer" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.



Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to 
the

IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without 
violating
any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to 
install
and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 
development

cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
would be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Jonathan Tyrer]

Do you really need an answer to this question? Surely, if you sit in a
dark room, on your own, in silence, and ask yourself this question,
you will find the answer.

I'd be amazed if anyone risked there primary phone with a very early
beta version of the oS.

On 12/06/2013, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the
> IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
> very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
> before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without violating
> any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install
> and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development
> cycle.
>
> If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
> would be greatly appreciated!
>
> TIA, and best regards.
> Geoff
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Re: VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Isaac Hebert]

If you want to  test the beta by all means go and get it.

On 6/12/13, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the
> IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is
> very rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7
> before it is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without violating
> any NDAs) is whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install
> and use IOS7 on his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development
> cycle.
>
> If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes
> would be greatly appreciated!
>
> TIA, and best regards.
> Geoff
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VoiceOver and IOS7.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

I'm considering registering as a developer so that I can have access to the 
IOS7 beta.  A little cursory Googling suggests that this initial beta is very 
rough around the edges.  Still, I'd like to provide input about IOS7 before it 
is released.  My question (if anyone can respond without violating any NDAs) is 
whether it is realistic for a totally blind person to install and use IOS7 on 
his/her primary phone at this point in the IOS7 development cycle.

If answering here is getting into sticky territory, any/all private notes would 
be greatly appreciated!

TIA, and best regards.
Geoff
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