Re: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread Mike Arrigo
When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This 
usually indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not 
increase at all, or does it increase and then drop off very quickly 
after disconnecting the cable?

Original message:

It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not charge
this evening.
It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop and
Mains charger to no affect.
The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.



I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.



However has anybody got any bright ideas?



David Griffith



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RE: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread David Griffith
No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is charging I am
afraid. 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge

When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This usually
indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not increase at all,
or does it increase and then drop off very quickly after disconnecting the
cable?
Original message:
 It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not 
 charge this evening.
 It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
 I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop 
 and Mains charger to no affect.
 The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.

 I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.

 However has anybody got any bright ideas?

 David Griffith

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Re: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread Esther
Hi David,

It sounds as though the voltage detector switch for your iPhone is not working, 
 This is what determines the speed of charging, which will vary according to 
your connected source (e.g., if you connect any iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad to 
an external Apple charger, it will charge at the maximum rate permitted by that 
device).  If I connect an iPod Nano or an iPhone to a 12 watt USB power adapter 
that comes with the latest iPad, the device immediately steps down to the 
appropriate rate for maximum charging.  On the other hand, if I connect an iPad 
to the plug connector or iPhone charger, it's limited to 5 watts, and will take 
2.5 times longer to charge.  Most PC USB ports deliver 2.5 watts of power, so 
charging takes even longer.  If you buy an external battery or case, the 
amperage may tell you how many times you can recharge your device, but the 
voltage and power of the rated connection tells you how long it will take.  

So, if you have a sync cable with a break, you may be able to sync and transfer 
data, but not charge, and this may be true for a number of third party cables.

The only times I've heard of the device no longer charging is when there has 
been water damage to the connector port.  Usually the problem is a bad cable.  
It sounds as though this is a faulty part in the hardware that should be 
replaced under warranty.

Mike's questions are to the point here.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
On 19 Jul 2013, at 11:12, David Griffith wrote:

 No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is charging I am
 afraid. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
 Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge
 
 When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This usually
 indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not increase at all,
 or does it increase and then drop off very quickly after disconnecting the
 cable?
 Original message:
 It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not 
 charge this evening.
 It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
 I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop 
 and Mains charger to no affect.
 The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.
 
 I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.
 
 However has anybody got any bright ideas?
 
 David Griffith
 
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Re: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread Esther
Hi David,

It sounds more as though a reset of your phone would have taken care of the 
problem.  This occasionally also works when people lose VoiceOver for obscure 
reasons, and I should have thought of this.  You hold down the Home and power 
button together for about 15 seconds (longer than you would to just shut down 
the iPhone), until the Apple logo appears on the screen (if someone sighted is 
around).  This has also fixed some people's battery standby problems.

You may have also reset things with the power down sequence.

Problems with a bad voltage sensor are pretty rare unless there's an obvious 
source of problems -- like dropping the iPhone into water.  Even then, it often 
survives.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 19 Jul 2013, at 11:49, David Griffith wrote:

 I have just turned my iPhone off for a couple of hours and have just started
 it up again. This time it started charging on exactly the same cable on the
 same power source that it had previously refused to charge on.
 So why it should now decide to charge when previously it was not is
 mystifying.
 I hope that this is not an intermittent fault.
 
 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther
 Sent: 19 July 2013 22:39
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge
 
 Hi David,
 
 It sounds as though the voltage detector switch for your iPhone is not
 working,  This is what determines the speed of charging, which will vary
 according to your connected source (e.g., if you connect any iPhone, iPod
 Touch, or iPad to an external Apple charger, it will charge at the maximum
 rate permitted by that device).  If I connect an iPod Nano or an iPhone to a
 12 watt USB power adapter that comes with the latest iPad, the device
 immediately steps down to the appropriate rate for maximum charging.  On the
 other hand, if I connect an iPad to the plug connector or iPhone charger,
 it's limited to 5 watts, and will take 2.5 times longer to charge.  Most PC
 USB ports deliver 2.5 watts of power, so charging takes even longer.  If you
 buy an external battery or case, the amperage may tell you how many times
 you can recharge your device, but the voltage and power of the rated
 connection tells you how long it will take.  
 
 So, if you have a sync cable with a break, you may be able to sync and
 transfer data, but not charge, and this may be true for a number of third
 party cables.
 
 The only times I've heard of the device no longer charging is when there has
 been water damage to the connector port.  Usually the problem is a bad
 cable.  It sounds as though this is a faulty part in the hardware that
 should be replaced under warranty.
 
 Mike's questions are to the point here.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 19 Jul 2013, at 11:12, David Griffith wrote:
 
 No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is 
 charging I am afraid.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
 Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge
 
 When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This 
 usually indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not 
 increase at all, or does it increase and then drop off very quickly 
 after disconnecting the cable?
 Original message:
 It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not 
 charge this evening.
 It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
 I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop 
 and Mains charger to no affect.
 The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.
 
 I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.
 
 However has anybody got any bright ideas?
 
 David Griffith
 

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RE: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread David Griffith
I have just turned my iPhone off for a couple of hours and have just started
it up again. This time it started charging on exactly the same cable on the
same power source that it had previously refused to charge on.
So why it should now decide to charge when previously it was not is
mystifying.
I hope that this is not an intermittent fault.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: 19 July 2013 22:39
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge

Hi David,

It sounds as though the voltage detector switch for your iPhone is not
working,  This is what determines the speed of charging, which will vary
according to your connected source (e.g., if you connect any iPhone, iPod
Touch, or iPad to an external Apple charger, it will charge at the maximum
rate permitted by that device).  If I connect an iPod Nano or an iPhone to a
12 watt USB power adapter that comes with the latest iPad, the device
immediately steps down to the appropriate rate for maximum charging.  On the
other hand, if I connect an iPad to the plug connector or iPhone charger,
it's limited to 5 watts, and will take 2.5 times longer to charge.  Most PC
USB ports deliver 2.5 watts of power, so charging takes even longer.  If you
buy an external battery or case, the amperage may tell you how many times
you can recharge your device, but the voltage and power of the rated
connection tells you how long it will take.  

So, if you have a sync cable with a break, you may be able to sync and
transfer data, but not charge, and this may be true for a number of third
party cables.

The only times I've heard of the device no longer charging is when there has
been water damage to the connector port.  Usually the problem is a bad
cable.  It sounds as though this is a faulty part in the hardware that
should be replaced under warranty.

Mike's questions are to the point here.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
On 19 Jul 2013, at 11:12, David Griffith wrote:

 No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is 
 charging I am afraid.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
 Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge
 
 When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This 
 usually indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not 
 increase at all, or does it increase and then drop off very quickly 
 after disconnecting the cable?
 Original message:
 It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not 
 charge this evening.
 It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
 I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop 
 and Mains charger to no affect.
 The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.
 
 I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.
 
 However has anybody got any bright ideas?
 
 David Griffith
 
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Re: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread Josh Gregory
I usually hold it down for 10 seconds and it works.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi David,
 
 It sounds more as though a reset of your phone would have taken care of the 
 problem.  This occasionally also works when people lose VoiceOver for obscure 
 reasons, and I should have thought of this.  You hold down the Home and power 
 button together for about 15 seconds (longer than you would to just shut down 
 the iPhone), until the Apple logo appears on the screen (if someone sighted 
 is around).  This has also fixed some people's battery standby problems.
 
 You may have also reset things with the power down sequence.
 
 Problems with a bad voltage sensor are pretty rare unless there's an obvious 
 source of problems -- like dropping the iPhone into water.  Even then, it 
 often survives.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 19 Jul 2013, at 11:49, David Griffith wrote:
 
 I have just turned my iPhone off for a couple of hours and have just started
 it up again. This time it started charging on exactly the same cable on the
 same power source that it had previously refused to charge on.
 So why it should now decide to charge when previously it was not is
 mystifying.
 I hope that this is not an intermittent fault.
 
 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther
 Sent: 19 July 2013 22:39
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge
 
 Hi David,
 
 It sounds as though the voltage detector switch for your iPhone is not
 working,  This is what determines the speed of charging, which will vary
 according to your connected source (e.g., if you connect any iPhone, iPod
 Touch, or iPad to an external Apple charger, it will charge at the maximum
 rate permitted by that device).  If I connect an iPod Nano or an iPhone to a
 12 watt USB power adapter that comes with the latest iPad, the device
 immediately steps down to the appropriate rate for maximum charging.  On the
 other hand, if I connect an iPad to the plug connector or iPhone charger,
 it's limited to 5 watts, and will take 2.5 times longer to charge.  Most PC
 USB ports deliver 2.5 watts of power, so charging takes even longer.  If you
 buy an external battery or case, the amperage may tell you how many times
 you can recharge your device, but the voltage and power of the rated
 connection tells you how long it will take.  
 
 So, if you have a sync cable with a break, you may be able to sync and
 transfer data, but not charge, and this may be true for a number of third
 party cables.
 
 The only times I've heard of the device no longer charging is when there has
 been water damage to the connector port.  Usually the problem is a bad
 cable.  It sounds as though this is a faulty part in the hardware that
 should be replaced under warranty.
 
 Mike's questions are to the point here.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 19 Jul 2013, at 11:12, David Griffith wrote:
 
 No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is 
 charging I am afraid.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
 Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge
 
 When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This 
 usually indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not 
 increase at all, or does it increase and then drop off very quickly 
 after disconnecting the cable?
 Original message:
 It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not 
 charge this evening.
 It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
 I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop 
 and Mains charger to no affect.
 The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.
 
 I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.
 
 However has anybody got any bright ideas?
 
 David Griffith
 
 
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Re: iPhone does not charge

2013-07-19 Thread Mike Arrigo
You might try resetting the phone, I think you hold the home and power 
buttons for around 10 seconds. I remember readingthat this fixed that 
problem for someone.

Original message:

No sound and no indication on the status bar that the phone is charging I am
afraid.



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: 19 July 2013 21:33
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: iPhone does not charge



When you connect the cable, does the phone make a chirp sound? This usually
indicates the connection. Does the battery percentage not increase at all,
or does it increase and then drop off very quickly after disconnecting the
cable?
Original message:

It is with a sinking feeling that I discovered my iPhone will not
charge this evening.
It will synch fine on my iMac but will not take a charge.
I have tried 2 different cables, and tried the iMac, Windows laptop
and Mains charger to no affect.
The fact that data is transferring OK  is strange.



I suspect this is a visit to the Apple Store as it is only 6 weeks old.



However has anybody got any bright ideas?



David Griffith



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