[MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Suzanne Blake]

Dear Ones,

Can we now download with giddy abandon whenever the pop-ups appear?  The last 
bazillion times, I've not used the pop-up & gone to the Adobe website

Thanks,  Suzanne Blake


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[MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the latest 
Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash Player. 

I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click to 
check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.

What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the web 
site?

Thanks.

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[MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Ed Stivers]

>From Jacquie Lawson: "
"Handy Tip! Until recently, Adobe's Flash player has been pretty much the
only show in town when it comes to web-based animation ­ and as some of you
will know, Flash can be troublesome, and isn't available at all on mobile
phones and iPads. So far we've worked around this by using videos on mobile
devices, but there's now a new kid on the block in the form of HTML5, and
you'll see some changes to our website in the coming months as we start to
roll out this exciting new technology. We¹ll keep you informed ­ via this
newsletter and also via our FAQ pages
<http://click.email.jacquielawson.com/?qs=ce9e895ed2d81975ba765e2d80b31fcb45
cde0e58d43c692afbc2c4c69a85d64d539c6044e672c26>  ­ as things progress."
³Whether this is an answer or not??²
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Jacobson-Beyer 
Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers

Date: Monday, January 23, 2017 at 12:40 PM
To: MacUserGroup Listserve 
Subject: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the latest
Adobe Flash Player.² Then there is a button to press to get Flash Player.

I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click
to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.

What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the
web site?

Thanks.


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[MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Anne Cartwright]

How do I install Adobe Flash Player and do I want to.

There is a website that says it is needed but I can’t get it installed. Get 
message saying the application “Install Adobe Flash Player.app" can’t be opened.

Anne
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Lee Larson]

On May 23, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Suzanne Blake wrote:

> Can we now download with giddy abandon whenever the pop-ups appear?  The last 
> bazillion times, I've not used the pop-up & gone to the Adobe website

Flash Player is holier than a screen door and seems to have a security update 
every week or so. You should always check with Adobe at  
 because there have been several 
false updates going around. It's a real nuisance.

My solution is to not have Flash Player installed at all. Google Chrome has 
Flash built in, and Chrome updates itself magically in the background so you 
don’t  get nagged about the updates. When I need Flash, I run Chrome. There 
aren't very many sites I hit that really need Flash. Usually it's only for ads 
that I'd just as soon not see anyway.





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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Update:

I opened Firefox and went to the same site that in Safari told me I needed to 
update Flash but in Firefox I didn’t get that message.

I’m confused.


> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the latest 
> Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash Player. 
> 
> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click to 
> check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
> 
> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the 
> web site?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[John Robinson]

Apple does this due to the voluminous security problems with Flash, Apple wants 
you to be sure you know the site before Flash is opened

John


> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Update:
> 
> I opened Firefox and went to the same site that in Safari told me I needed to 
> update Flash but in Firefox I didn’t get that message.
> 
> I’m confused.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the latest 
>> Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash Player. 
>> 
>> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click 
>> to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
>> 
>> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the 
>> web site?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[John Robinson]

Remember, Jobs would not allow Flash on any of our mobile devices, he was the 
lone wolf, so the more progressive sites have been reprogramming to HTML, now 
Google has adopted the same for their mobile devices, not allowing Flash.

John


> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Update:
> 
> I opened Firefox and went to the same site that in Safari told me I needed to 
> update Flash but in Firefox I didn’t get that message.
> 
> I’m confused.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the latest 
>> Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash Player. 
>> 
>> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click 
>> to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
>> 
>> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the 
>> web site?
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

Thanks so much. My preferences were a little different than yours. When I 
clicked on Security then Plub-in settings Adobe Flash Player was already turned 
on. But in the right-hand window there was a list of "configured web sites” 
with Adobe Flash Player turned on and there was a another window with 
“Currently Open Websites” and the web site that was open was the one that 
needed Flash player. It was turned off for that web site. I turned it on and 
everything worked well. Thanks. for you help.


Harry
 
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Flash is defaulted to OFF in Safari, so to use a site that has not updated to 
> HTML 5 you need to go into Safari Preferences and under Security click on 
> Pulg-in-Settings.there you will be able to turn it on,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the latest 
>> Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash Player. 
>> 
>> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click 
>> to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
>> 
>> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the 
>> web site?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks. So do you recommend I turn off flash and only turn it on if a site 
requests it?


> On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:59 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> On the machine I sent you the screenshot I have Flash turned off, that 
> machine is primarily used for market data…on my laptop my setup looks like 
> this:
> 
> Flash is “there” but turned off, even for FaceBook…very seldom do I run into 
> a site that requires Flash, I think since most all mobile is avoiding Flash 
> the programmers are finally moving away from the beast.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Thanks so much. My preferences were a little different than yours. When I 
>> clicked on Security then Plub-in settings Adobe Flash Player was already 
>> turned on. But in the right-hand window there was a list of "configured web 
>> sites” with Adobe Flash Player turned on and there was a another window with 
>> “Currently Open Websites” and the web site that was open was the one that 
>> needed Flash player. It was turned off for that web site. I turned it on and 
>> everything worked well. Thanks. for you help.
>> 
>> 
>> Harry
>>  
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, John Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> 
>>> Flash is defaulted to OFF in Safari, so to use a site that has not updated 
>>> to HTML 5 you need to go into Safari Preferences and under Security click 
>>> on Pulg-in-Settings.there you will be able to turn it on,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer >>> > wrote:
 
 In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the 
 latest Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash 
 Player. 
 
 I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I click 
 to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
 
 What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through the 
 web site?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[John Robinson]

Yes, others in our group may shed much more than my limited knowledge, but all 
I read tells me it's a magnet for viruses, so shut the door until you need it & 
only on those sites you trust. 

John

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. So do you recommend I turn off flash and only turn it on if a site 
> requests it?
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:59 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> On the machine I sent you the screenshot I have Flash turned off, that 
>> machine is primarily used for market data…on my laptop my setup looks like 
>> this:
>> 
>> Flash is “there” but turned off, even for FaceBook…very seldom do I run into 
>> a site that requires Flash, I think since most all mobile is avoiding Flash 
>> the programmers are finally moving away from the beast.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much. My preferences were a little different than yours. When I 
>>> clicked on Security then Plub-in settings Adobe Flash Player was already 
>>> turned on. But in the right-hand window there was a list of "configured web 
>>> sites” with Adobe Flash Player turned on and there was a another window 
>>> with “Currently Open Websites” and the web site that was open was the one 
>>> that needed Flash player. It was turned off for that web site. I turned it 
>>> on and everything worked well. Thanks. for you help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>>  
 On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
 
 Harry,
 
 Flash is defaulted to OFF in Safari, so to use a site that has not updated 
 to HTML 5 you need to go into Safari Preferences and under Security click 
 on Pulg-in-Settings.there you will be able to turn it on,
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the 
> latest Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash 
> Player. 
> 
> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I 
> click to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
> 
> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through 
> the web site?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Great, thanks.
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:15 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Yes, others in our group may shed much more than my limited knowledge, but 
> all I read tells me it's a magnet for viruses, so shut the door until you 
> need it & only on those sites you trust. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  > wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. So do you recommend I turn off flash and only turn it on if a site 
>> requests it?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:59 PM, John Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> 
>>> On the machine I sent you the screenshot I have Flash turned off, that 
>>> machine is primarily used for market data…on my laptop my setup looks like 
>>> this:
>>> 
>>> Flash is “there” but turned off, even for FaceBook…very seldom do I run 
>>> into a site that requires Flash, I think since most all mobile is avoiding 
>>> Flash the programmers are finally moving away from the beast.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer >>> > wrote:
 
 John,
 
 Thanks so much. My preferences were a little different than yours. When I 
 clicked on Security then Plub-in settings Adobe Flash Player was already 
 turned on. But in the right-hand window there was a list of "configured 
 web sites” with Adobe Flash Player turned on and there was a another 
 window with “Currently Open Websites” and the web site that was open was 
 the one that needed Flash player. It was turned off for that web site. I 
 turned it on and everything worked well. Thanks. for you help.
 
 
 Harry
  
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, John Robinson  > wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Flash is defaulted to OFF in Safari, so to use a site that has not 
> updated to HTML 5 you need to go into Safari Preferences and under 
> Security click on Pulg-in-Settings.there you will be able to turn it on,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > > wrote:
>> 
>> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the 
>> latest Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get Flash 
>> Player. 
>> 
>> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I 
>> click to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
>> 
>> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through 
>> the web site?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[William Rising]

Flash also has had a bad habit of sucking down resources once opened. I use 
Chrome when a site requires flash [1] because (at least in the past), Chrome 
was vigilant at having the most recent Flash with the most recent security 
patches. Of course, I think Google has cooled towards Flash, so this might not 
be a long-term strategy.

Bill
[1] If you turn on the Develop menu you can easily jump over to Chrome to open 
the website without the need to copy and paste the URL.

> On Jan 23, 2017, at 16:25, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Great, thanks.
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:15 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, others in our group may shed much more than my limited knowledge, but 
>> all I read tells me it's a magnet for viruses, so shut the door until you 
>> need it & only on those sites you trust. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks. So do you recommend I turn off flash and only turn it on if a site 
>>> requests it?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:59 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
 
 Harry,
 
 On the machine I sent you the screenshot I have Flash turned off, that 
 machine is primarily used for market data…on my laptop my setup looks like 
 this:
 
 Flash is “there” but turned off, even for FaceBook…very seldom do I run 
 into a site that requires Flash, I think since most all mobile is avoiding 
 Flash the programmers are finally moving away from the beast.
 
 John
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 John
 
 
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Thanks so much. My preferences were a little different than yours. When I 
> clicked on Security then Plub-in settings Adobe Flash Player was already 
> turned on. But in the right-hand window there was a list of "configured 
> web sites” with Adobe Flash Player turned on and there was a another 
> window with “Currently Open Websites” and the web site that was open was 
> the one that needed Flash player. It was turned off for that web site. I 
> turned it on and everything worked well. Thanks. for you help.
> 
> 
> Harry
>  
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> Flash is defaulted to OFF in Safari, so to use a site that has not 
>> updated to HTML 5 you need to go into Safari Preferences and under 
>> Security click on Pulg-in-Settings.there you will be able to turn it on,
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Safari, on several sites, I keep getting the message "You need the 
>>> latest Adobe Flash Player.” Then there is a button to press to get 
>>> Flash Player. 
>>> 
>>> I never use the button I always go to system preferences, but when I 
>>> click to check for updates preferences tell me there are no updates.
>>> 
>>> What gives? Why do I keep getting the message? Should I update through 
>>> the web site?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Lee Larson]

On May 22, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Anne Cartwright mailto:cartw...@aye.net>> wrote:

> How do I install Adobe Flash Player and do I want to.

The official site to acquire Flash is >. There are many unofficial and dangerous 
versions floating around, so this is the only surely safe place to get it.

I don’t ever install Flash because it’s long been one of the leading targets 
for malware. It’s amazing to me that after all these years people are still 
finding what Adobe calls “critical exploits” in Flash.

Whenever I positively need Flash—and those times are getting rare—I go to the 
site with Chrome instead of Safari. Chrome has a special sandboxed version of 
Flash built in.

However, Google is trying to discourage everyone from using Flash, so they’ve 
turned it off in the newer versions of Chrome. To turn it on, check out this 
site: >.

L^2


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[Anne Cartwright]

Thanks Lee.

I followed your advice and used Chrome and finally got the website.

Anne



> On May 22, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On May 22, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Anne Cartwright  > wrote:
> 
>> How do I install Adobe Flash Player and do I want to.
> 
> The official site to acquire Flash is  >. There are many unofficial and 
> dangerous versions floating around, so this is the only surely safe place to 
> get it.
> 
> I don’t ever install Flash because it’s long been one of the leading targets 
> for malware. It’s amazing to me that after all these years people are still 
> finding what Adobe calls “critical exploits” in Flash.
> 
> Whenever I positively need Flash—and those times are getting rare—I go to the 
> site with Chrome instead of Safari. Chrome has a special sandboxed version of 
> Flash built in.
> 
> However, Google is trying to discourage everyone from using Flash, so they’ve 
> turned it off in the newer versions of Chrome. To turn it on, check out this 
> site:  >.
> 
> L^2
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Adobe Flash Player

[Ed Wiser]

Best way is use google chrome for flash. There are websites that will direct 
you to download flash but never on any site other than Adobe's
http://www.adobe.com/m/flashplayer/apple.html

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> There is a website that says it is needed but I can’t get it installed. Get 
> message saying the application “Install Adobe Flash Player.app" can’t be 
> opened.
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