Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I purchased TechTools Pro yesterday. When I ran "preview optimization" to see 
how fragmented the disk is I got this message:

Volume Directory is fragmented.
It is not safe to optimize

Restart from an eDrive:

From the original volume to a new empty volume do “Volume Cloning”.

From the new volume back to the original volume do “Volume Cloning” 
Duplicate Cloning"


I also learned 
I have used 488.56 GB
11.2 GB Free Space
Largest Contiguous Free Space is 523.07 MB
Free Space Fragmentation 95.33%
0 fragmented files.

It’s all very interesting.


> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Nice to see you too, John. Unforntunately, I do not Tech Tools Pro in any 
> version compatible to my current machines. If I still have Tech Tool it’s 
> several years old.
> 
> Perhaps I will invest in it.
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:57 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> So great to see you today, been far too long.  In TechTools Pro8 one of the 
>> modules is defrag if you think you should do first.  
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran disk warrior again on the time machine drive. This time I turned off 
>>> Time Machine and ran disk warrior from my mac not from the jump drive.
>>> 
>>> I received the same message- make available 5100 mb of contiguous disk space
>>> 
>>> The disk has 13.64 gb of free space. Go figure.
>>> 
>>> I can not find a defrag function on disk tools.
>>> 
>>> I guess I will try what you suggest Lee.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
 
 On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
 
> My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my 
> TimeMachine disk or any disk for that matter.
 
 The first thing to check is if there’s at least 5100 MB of space available 
 on the disk. If not, you’ll have to delete some stuff.
 
 Given there’s enough space on the disk, you’ll have to defragment it 
 somehow. DiskWarrior has defragmentation capability, as do most other disk 
 utilities such as TechTool—but not Apple’s Disk Utility. Another way is to 
 copy the files to another disk, delete them from the original and copy 
 them back.
 
 I’ve not defragged a Mac this century, so I don’t know how well the tools 
 in DiskWarrior and TechTool do the job. It’s generally not necessary, 
 unless you regularly work with files that are so individually huge they 
 take up a large portion of your hard drive. With drives in the multi-TB 
 range, this is getting pretty uncommon. If you find you really need to 
 defrag a drive, you probably need a bigger drive.
 
 L^2
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[Lee Larson]

On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:

> The disk has 13.64 gb of free space. Go figure.

It’s still very possible you don’t have 5.1 GB of contiguous free space, which 
is what DiskWarrior wants. That 13.64 GB might be scattered all over the disk 
in small chunks. Defragmenting consolidates it.

By the way, I hadn’t looked at DiskWarrior in quite a while, and it looks to me 
as though it no longer has a defragmentation utility — or it’s well-hidden. 
(Or, I imagined it had a defragger at one time.)

L^2





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Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[preston....@twc.com]

Hello Harry,

Perhaps another app to consider is  [ iDefrag 5 ]  from  
.
Their current version 5 supports Mac OS X ver. 10.11.  Shouldn’t be a problem 
if running from your system disk to defrag your time machine disk (run from 
different start-up disk if altering the system disk).
I use it with no issues or problems, although full defragmention does take a 
while.: )

-russ preston


> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> Nice to see you too, John. Unforntunately, I do not Tech Tools Pro in any 
> version compatible to my current machines. If I still have Tech Tool it’s 
> several years old.
> 
> Perhaps I will invest in it.
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:57 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> So great to see you today, been far too long.  In TechTools Pro8 one of the 
>> modules is defrag if you think you should do first.  
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran disk warrior again on the time machine drive. This time I turned off 
>>> Time Machine and ran disk warrior from my mac not from the jump drive.
>>> 
>>> I received the same message- make available 5100 mb of contiguous disk space
>>> 
>>> The disk has 13.64 gb of free space. Go figure.
>>> 
>>> I can not find a defrag function on disk tools.
>>> 
>>> I guess I will try what you suggest Lee.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
 
 On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
 
> My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my 
> TimeMachine disk or any disk for that matter.
 
 The first thing to check is if there’s at least 5100 MB of space available 
 on the disk. If not, you’ll have to delete some stuff.
 
 Given there’s enough space on the disk, you’ll have to defragment it 
 somehow. DiskWarrior has defragmentation capability, as do most other disk 
 utilities such as TechTool—but not Apple’s Disk Utility. Another way is to 
 copy the files to another disk, delete them from the original and copy 
 them back.
 
 I’ve not defragged a Mac this century, so I don’t know how well the tools 
 in DiskWarrior and TechTool do the job. It’s generally not necessary, 
 unless you regularly work with files that are so individually huge they 
 take up a large portion of your hard drive. With drives in the multi-TB 
 range, this is getting pretty uncommon. If you find you really need to 
 defrag a drive, you probably need a bigger drive.
 
 L^2
 
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Nice to see you too, John. Unforntunately, I do not Tech Tools Pro in any 
version compatible to my current machines. If I still have Tech Tool it’s 
several years old.

Perhaps I will invest in it.

Harry


> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:57 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> So great to see you today, been far too long.  In TechTools Pro8 one of the 
> modules is defrag if you think you should do first.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I ran disk warrior again on the time machine drive. This time I turned off 
>> Time Machine and ran disk warrior from my mac not from the jump drive.
>> 
>> I received the same message- make available 5100 mb of contiguous disk space
>> 
>> The disk has 13.64 gb of free space. Go figure.
>> 
>> I can not find a defrag function on disk tools.
>> 
>> I guess I will try what you suggest Lee.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
 My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my 
 TimeMachine disk or any disk for that matter.
>>> 
>>> The first thing to check is if there’s at least 5100 MB of space available 
>>> on the disk. If not, you’ll have to delete some stuff.
>>> 
>>> Given there’s enough space on the disk, you’ll have to defragment it 
>>> somehow. DiskWarrior has defragmentation capability, as do most other disk 
>>> utilities such as TechTool—but not Apple’s Disk Utility. Another way is to 
>>> copy the files to another disk, delete them from the original and copy them 
>>> back.
>>> 
>>> I’ve not defragged a Mac this century, so I don’t know how well the tools 
>>> in DiskWarrior and TechTool do the job. It’s generally not necessary, 
>>> unless you regularly work with files that are so individually huge they 
>>> take up a large portion of your hard drive. With drives in the multi-TB 
>>> range, this is getting pretty uncommon. If you find you really need to 
>>> defrag a drive, you probably need a bigger drive.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[John Robinson]

Harry,

So great to see you today, been far too long.  In TechTools Pro8 one of the 
modules is defrag if you think you should do first.  

John

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I ran disk warrior again on the time machine drive. This time I turned off 
> Time Machine and ran disk warrior from my mac not from the jump drive.
> 
> I received the same message- make available 5100 mb of contiguous disk space
> 
> The disk has 13.64 gb of free space. Go figure.
> 
> I can not find a defrag function on disk tools.
> 
> I guess I will try what you suggest Lee.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>>> My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my 
>>> TimeMachine disk or any disk for that matter.
>> 
>> The first thing to check is if there’s at least 5100 MB of space available 
>> on the disk. If not, you’ll have to delete some stuff.
>> 
>> Given there’s enough space on the disk, you’ll have to defragment it 
>> somehow. DiskWarrior has defragmentation capability, as do most other disk 
>> utilities such as TechTool—but not Apple’s Disk Utility. Another way is to 
>> copy the files to another disk, delete them from the original and copy them 
>> back.
>> 
>> I’ve not defragged a Mac this century, so I don’t know how well the tools in 
>> DiskWarrior and TechTool do the job. It’s generally not necessary, unless 
>> you regularly work with files that are so individually huge they take up a 
>> large portion of your hard drive. With drives in the multi-TB range, this is 
>> getting pretty uncommon. If you find you really need to defrag a drive, you 
>> probably need a bigger drive.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I ran disk warrior again on the time machine drive. This time I turned off Time 
Machine and ran disk warrior from my mac not from the jump drive.

I received the same message- make available 5100 mb of contiguous disk space

The disk has 13.64 gb of free space. Go figure.

I can not find a defrag function on disk tools.

I guess I will try what you suggest Lee.

Thanks.



> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my 
>> TimeMachine disk or any disk for that matter.
> 
> The first thing to check is if there’s at least 5100 MB of space available on 
> the disk. If not, you’ll have to delete some stuff.
> 
> Given there’s enough space on the disk, you’ll have to defragment it somehow. 
> DiskWarrior has defragmentation capability, as do most other disk utilities 
> such as TechTool—but not Apple’s Disk Utility. Another way is to copy the 
> files to another disk, delete them from the original and copy them back.
> 
> I’ve not defragged a Mac this century, so I don’t know how well the tools in 
> DiskWarrior and TechTool do the job. It’s generally not necessary, unless you 
> regularly work with files that are so individually huge they take up a large 
> portion of your hard drive. With drives in the multi-TB range, this is 
> getting pretty uncommon. If you find you really need to defrag a drive, you 
> probably need a bigger drive.
> 
> L^2
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[Lee Larson]

On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:

> My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my 
> TimeMachine disk or any disk for that matter.

The first thing to check is if there’s at least 5100 MB of space available on 
the disk. If not, you’ll have to delete some stuff.

Given there’s enough space on the disk, you’ll have to defragment it somehow. 
DiskWarrior has defragmentation capability, as do most other disk utilities 
such as TechTool—but not Apple’s Disk Utility. Another way is to copy the files 
to another disk, delete them from the original and copy them back.

I’ve not defragged a Mac this century, so I don’t know how well the tools in 
DiskWarrior and TechTool do the job. It’s generally not necessary, unless you 
regularly work with files that are so individually huge they take up a large 
portion of your hard drive. With drives in the multi-TB range, this is getting 
pretty uncommon. If you find you really need to defrag a drive, you probably 
need a bigger drive.

L^2





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[MacGroup] Disk Warrior question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I was having some issues with my hard drive and I ran disk warrior. It replaced 
the directory and then I ran disk warrior on my external TimeMachine drive.

It found a lot of issues and recommended that I create 5100 mb of free 
contiguous space on the drive before replacing the old directory with the new.

So I quit DiskWarrior without replacing the directory.

My question: How do I create 5100 mb of contiguous free space on my TimeMachine 
disk or any disk for that matter.

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