[MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
I can not find the “Secure Erase” option in El Capitan (10.11.1). Is it there? The “Mac Help” file says it is by referring to it, but it or its option checkbox don’t seem to be anywhere. Pls & thx for any help. -russ preston ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
On Oct 25, 2015, at 05:21, R. D. Preston wrote: > > I can not find the “Secure Erase” option in El Capitan (10.11.1). Is it > there? The “Mac Help” file says it is by referring to it, but it or its > option checkbox don’t seem to be anywhere. > This discussion indicates it is gone (but has a way to use the terminal): https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7250851 Bill ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
I use "srm" in Terminal. (Haven't tried in El Capitan.) ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
On 10/25/2015 05:21 AM, R. D. Preston wrote: I can not find the “Secure Erase” option in El Capitan (10.11.1). Is it there? The “Mac Help” file says it is by referring to it, but it or its option checkbox don’t seem to be anywhere. Why not just use Filevault? This makes your whole drive secure so you don't have to worry about securing individual files. Once it's set up you won't even notice it's working. I use it on all my Macs. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
Lee, I have always been afraid I would lose my key or logon info…then I am in deep trouble…if I get the nerve will turning FileVault on encrypt all 4 of the drives on my MacPro? If the data is encrypted will it have to be unencrypted to be used, (done on the fly?) and can I put the encrypted file in my iCloud drive and DropBox and then when moved to another machine the files can be used? Thanks for a little more help. John > On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Lee Larson wrote: > > On 10/25/2015 05:21 AM, R. D. Preston wrote: >> I can not find the “Secure Erase” option in El Capitan (10.11.1). Is it >> there? The “Mac Help” file says it is by referring to it, but it or its >> option checkbox don’t seem to be anywhere. > Why not just use Filevault? This makes your whole drive secure so you don't > have to worry about securing individual files. Once it's set up you won't > even notice it's working. I use it on all my Macs. > > > > ___ > MacGroup mailing list > MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Lee Larson wrote: > > On 10/25/2015 05:21 AM, R. D. Preston wrote: >> I can not find the “Secure Erase” option in El Capitan (10.11.1). Is it >> there? The “Mac Help” file says it is by referring to it, but it or its >> option checkbox don’t seem to be anywhere. > Why not just use Filevault? This makes your whole drive secure so you don't > have to worry about securing individual files. Once it's set up you won't > even notice it's working. I use it on all my Macs. Thanks for the reply and suggestion, but not an option for my setup and usage. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
On Oct 25, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Pen Helm wrote: > > I use "srm" in Terminal. (Haven't tried in El Capitan.) Thanks for reply and suggestion. However, I’m still looking for a Finder option (drag to trash, then Secure erase). ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, William Rising wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2015, at 05:21, R. D. Preston wrote: >> >> I can not find the “Secure Erase” option in El Capitan (10.11.1). Is it >> there? The “Mac Help” file says it is by referring to it, but it or its >> option checkbox don’t seem to be anywhere. >> > > This discussion indicates it is gone (but has a way to use the terminal): > > > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7250851 > > Bill Thanks for the reply and included link to discussion(s). ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:58 PM, John Robinson wrote: > I have always been afraid I would lose my key or logon info…then I am in deep > trouble…if I get the nerve will turning FileVault on encrypt all 4 of the > drives on my MacPro? If the data is encrypted will it have to be unencrypted > to be used, (done on the fly?) and can I put the encrypted file in my iCloud > drive and DropBox and then when moved to another machine the files can be > used? If you forget your account password, you can get into your stuff with your iCloud password or your recovery key, if you set one. It’s pretty easy to add FileVault to your external drives. Just control-click them and choose to encrypt them from the popup menu. After the drive's encrypted, you can add the drive’s password to your keychain to make the mounting automatic. Since Dropbox and iCloud are programs running on your Mac, they see the data as unencrypted and store the unencrypted version in the cloud. Of course, the cloud images are encrypted by Dropbox and iCloud themselves, so the security is still protected just as it is now. Basically, the files on the cloud behave as they would without FileVault. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
Thank you ever so much Lee, you are always so helpful. John Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Lee Larson wrote: > >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:58 PM, John Robinson wrote: >> >> I have always been afraid I would lose my key or logon info…then I am in >> deep trouble…if I get the nerve will turning FileVault on encrypt all 4 of >> the drives on my MacPro? If the data is encrypted will it have to be >> unencrypted to be used, (done on the fly?) and can I put the encrypted file >> in my iCloud drive and DropBox and then when moved to another machine the >> files can be used? > > If you forget your account password, you can get into your stuff with your > iCloud password or your recovery key, if you set one. > > It’s pretty easy to add FileVault to your external drives. Just control-click > them and choose to encrypt them from the popup menu. After the drive's > encrypted, you can add the drive’s password to your keychain to make the > mounting automatic. > > Since Dropbox and iCloud are programs running on your Mac, they see the data > as unencrypted and store the unencrypted version in the cloud. Of course, the > cloud images are encrypted by Dropbox and iCloud themselves, so the security > is still protected just as it is now. Basically, the files on the cloud > behave as they would without FileVault. > > ___ > MacGroup mailing list > MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Secure Erase in ElCap??
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Lee Larson wrote: > >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:58 PM, John Robinson wrote: >> >>> I have always been afraid I would lose my key or logon info…then I am in >>> deep trouble…if I get the nerve will turning FileVault on encrypt all 4 of >>> the drives on my MacPro? If the data is encrypted will it have to be >>> unencrypted to be used, (done on the fly?) and can I put the encrypted file >>> in my iCloud drive and DropBox and then when moved to another machine the >>> files can be used? >> > If you forget your account password, you can get into your stuff with your > iCloud password or your recovery key, if you set one. > > It’s pretty easy to add FileVault to your external drives. Just control-click > them and choose to encrypt them from the popup menu. After the drive's > encrypted, you can add the drive’s password to your keychain to make the > mounting automatic. > > Since Dropbox and iCloud are programs running on your Mac, they see the data > as unencrypted and store the unencrypted version in the cloud. Of course, the > cloud images are encrypted by Dropbox and iCloud themselves, so the security > is still protected just as it is now. Basically, the files on the cloud > behave as they would without FileVault. Addendum: I’m now using Terminal’s "secure remove” (srm) function to accomplish this since there’s now no specific solution in the Finder, without FileVault on any disks. Enter srm (followed by a space) into a new Terminal window, then drag & drop a desired file into the Terminal window at the cursor. The full file path of the file is entered. Press Enter. There’s no feedback except that Terminal is indeed working to srm the file. -russ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
