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Re: [Machinekit] Machinekit Buster missing dependency (Debian)?

2020-04-05 Thread cern via Machinekit

Hi,
Apr 5, 2020, 08:40 by jiriprochazka...@gmail.com:

> Any update on this issue now?
>
yes, this issue was solved by ORing python-yapps (which is in buster: 
https://packages.debian.org/buster/python-yapps ) in place of yapps2-runtime 
(which is only for jessie and stretch: 
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/yapps2-runtime ).

However, machinekit package is obsolete. So it was probably not fixed there. 
You can just update the package to use another dependency.

Cern.

> Because I am having the same problem.
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  machinekit-rt-preempt : Depends: machinekit (= 
> 0.1.1570528621.git9239acb-1~buster) but it is not going to be installed
>                          Depends: yapps2-runtime but it is not installable
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dne neděle 16. února 2020 18:06:37 UTC Mr Greg napsal(a):
>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:13:15 UTC, >> ce...@tuta.io <>>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, 
>>> Feb 16, 2020, 16:59 by >>> mr84...@gmail.com < : 
>>>  
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Sunday, 16 February 2020 14:42:33 UTC, >>> ce...@tuta.io <   
>>> > wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> >> Hello, 
>>> >> Feb 15, 2020, 22:06 by >> >>> mr84...@gmail.com <  <>>> : 
>>> >> 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > On Saturday, 15 February 2020 20:26:24 UTC, Bas de Bruijn  wrote: 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >> > Any known workaround for this problem? 
>>> >> >>   
>>> >> >> Try installing the package manually first. `sudo apt install 
>>> >> >> ` 
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > My problem is the package   no longer exists in 
>>> >> > Buster. It has been removed. 
>>> >> > See 
>>> >> > >> >>> https://reposcope.com/package/>>> >> yapps2-runtime>>   
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > Machinelit Buster does not recognise the replacement  ( 
>>> >> > installed manually first ) 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> this is odd. The problems should have been solved a year ago with ORing 
>>> >> the python-yapps package for Debian Buster, i.e. this line: >> >>> 
>>> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>>> >> machinekit-hal/blob/>> 
>>> >> 120c9f765cf12bcd337b66308b64b3>>> >> 146a26ec8d/debian/control.d/>> >>> 
>>> >> control.in#L20 >  and the >> >>> 
>>> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>>> >> machinekit-hal/commit/>> 
>>> >> d25ca64184660a44fcd6b3162b6e75>>> >> 84d781ee16>>  commit. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> I can install Machinekit-HAL  Buster on my amd64 computer without 
>>> >> problem. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Could you post the command sequence what you are trying to do? 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Thanks, 
>>> >> Cern. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > Cheers 
>>> >> > MrGreg 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > -- 
>>> >> >  website: > >> >>> http://www.machinekit.io>>> >> >  blog: > >> >>> 
>>> >> > http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >> >  github: > >> >>> 
>>> >> > https://github.com/machinekit>>>  >   
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>>> >> > >  <>> >>> 
>>> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/>>> >> msgid/machinekit/40e69652->> 
>>> >> > 5e83-4285-9055-6dcae4c2852d%>> >>> 40googlegroups.com?utm_medium= 
>>> >> > > 
>>> >> > email&utm_source=footer>> >> . 
>>> >> > 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > OK to expand on my OP 
>>> > 
>>> > Trying to install machinekit Buster on an Rpi3B 
>>> > Starting here 
>>> > >>> http://www.machinekit.io/docs/>>> getting-started/installing->>> 
>>> > >>> packages/>>>  
>>> > Following section9 : 
>>> > 9. Debian Buster on armhf 
>>> > 
>>> > Apt  successful 
>>> > RT from here 
>>> > >>> https://github.com/guysoft/>>> RealtimePi>>>  
>>> > 
>>> > Install runtime packages : Fail 
>>> > 
>>> > Missing dependency 
>>> > yapps2-runtime ( non existent package in Debian) 
>>> > 
>>> > I'm guessing that the arm machinekit package has not been built with the 
>>> > necessary updates to   
>>> > 
>>> > ??? 
>>> > 
>>> oh, yeah, I can see it now. You are trying to install the deprecated 
>>> Machinekit package, which require the yapps2-runtime. 
>>>  
>>> Well, that's an error in documentation. (Which I am going to repair.) The 
>>> one Machinekit package was superseded by two packages - Machinekit-HAL and 
>>> Machinekit-CNC. But the Machinekit-CNC cannot be installed because of 
>>> pulled python-gnome2 from Buster. You can use the-snowwhite's hack from >>> 
>>> https://github.com/machinekit/>>> machinekit/issues/1323#>>> 
>>> issuecomment-536042893>>>  . However, from Linu

Re: [Machinekit] Machinekit Buster missing dependency (Debian)?

2020-04-05 Thread Jiří Procházka

Sorry, maybe it is a silly question, but how do I update the machinekit 
package?
I guess that installing python-yapps is not enough.

Thank you 
Jiri

Dne neděle 5. dubna 2020 13:14:56 UTC+2 ce...@tuta.io napsal(a):
>
> Hi, 
> Apr 5, 2020, 08:40 by jiripro...@gmail.com : 
>
> > Any update on this issue now? 
> > 
> yes, this issue was solved by ORing python-yapps (which is in buster: 
> https://packages.debian.org/buster/python-yapps ) in place of 
> yapps2-runtime (which is only for jessie and stretch: 
> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/yapps2-runtime ). 
>
> However, machinekit package is obsolete. So it was probably not fixed 
> there. You can just update the package to use another dependency. 
>
> Cern. 
>
> > Because I am having the same problem. 
> > 
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies: 
> >  machinekit-rt-preempt : Depends: machinekit (= 
> 0.1.1570528621.git9239acb-1~buster) but it is not going to be installed 
> >  Depends: yapps2-runtime but it is not 
> installable 
> > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dne neděle 16. února 2020 18:06:37 UTC Mr Greg napsal(a): 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:13:15 UTC, >> ce...@tuta.io <>>> 
>  wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Hello, 
> >>> Feb 16, 2020, 16:59 by >>> mr84...@gmail.com < : 
> >>>   
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > On Sunday, 16 February 2020 14:42:33 UTC, >>> ce...@tuta.io < 
>   wrote: 
> >>> > 
> >>> >> Hello, 
> >>> >> Feb 15, 2020, 22:06 by >> >>> mr84...@gmail.com <  <>>> : 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > On Saturday, 15 February 2020 20:26:24 UTC, Bas de Bruijn  wrote: 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> > Any known workaround for this problem? 
> >>> >> >>   
> >>> >> >> Try installing the package manually first. `sudo apt install 
> ` 
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > My problem is the package   no longer exists in 
> Buster. It has been removed. 
> >>> >> > See 
> >>> >> > >> >>> https://reposcope.com/package/>>> >> yapps2-runtime>>   
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Machinelit Buster does not recognise the replacement 
>  ( installed manually first ) 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> this is odd. The problems should have been solved a year ago with 
> ORing the python-yapps package for Debian Buster, i.e. this line: >> >>> 
> https://github.com/machinekit/>>> >> machinekit-hal/blob/>> 
> 120c9f765cf12bcd337b66308b64b3>>> >> 146a26ec8d/debian/control.d/>> >>> 
> control.in#L20 >  and the >> >>> 
> https://github.com/machinekit/>>> >> machinekit-hal/commit/>> 
> d25ca64184660a44fcd6b3162b6e75>>> >> 84d781ee16>>  commit. 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> I can install Machinekit-HAL  Buster on my amd64 computer without 
> problem. 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Could you post the command sequence what you are trying to do? 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Thanks, 
> >>> >> Cern. 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Cheers 
> >>> >> > MrGreg 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > -- 
> >>> >> >  website: > >> >>> http://www.machinekit.io>>> >> >  blog: > >> 
> >>> http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >> >  github: > >> >>> 
> https://github.com/machinekit>>>  >   
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> https://groups.google.com/d/>>> >> msgid/machinekit/40e69652->> 
> 5e83-4285-9055-6dcae4c2852d%>> >>> 40googlegroups.com <
> http://40googlegroups.com >>  <>> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/>>> 
> >> msgid/machinekit/40e69652->> 5e83-4285-9055-6dcae4c2852d%>> >>> 
> 40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=  >> email&utm_source=footer>> >> . 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> 
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > OK to expand on my OP 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Trying to install machinekit Buster on an Rpi3B 
> >>> > Starting here 
> >>> > >>> http://www.machinekit.io/docs/>>> 
> getting-started/installing->>> packages/>>>   
> >>> > Following section9 : 
> >>> > 9. Debian Buster on armhf 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Apt  successful 
> >>> > RT from here 
> >>> > >>> https://github.com/guysoft/>>> RealtimePi>>>   
> >>> > 
> >>> > Install runtime packages : Fail 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Missing dependency 
> >>> > yapps2-runtime ( non existent package in Debian) 
> >>> > 
> >>> > I'm guessing that the arm machinekit package has not been built with 
> the necessary updates to   
> >>> > 
> >>> > ??? 
> >>> > 
> >>> oh, yeah, I can see it now. You are trying to install the deprecated 
> Machinekit package, which require the yapps2-runtime. 
> >>>   
> >>> Well, that's an error in documentation. (Which I am going to repair.) 
> The one Machinekit package was superseded by two

Re: [Machinekit] Machinekit Buster missing dependency (Debian)?

2020-04-05 Thread cern via Machinekit

No, just installing python-yapps is not enough.

The whole Machinekit/machinekit branch of development with its repository 
https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit is no longer developed and so new 
versions of packages are not going to happen. So the needed change is not going 
to be done there.

But given that you already have dpkg .deb package of Machinekit (probably from 
deb.machinekit.io), you can manually alter that dpkg package to use 
python-yapps. Tutorial is (for example) here: 
http://www.lucademarini.com/thedarkmaster/2008/05/24/how-to-create-manipulate-a-deb-file-of-a-compiled-application/
 You will trash the original PGP signature, but that's no concern for your 
needs.

Cern.

Apr 5, 2020, 14:08 by jiriprochazka...@gmail.com:

> Sorry, maybe it is a silly question, but how do I update the machinekit 
> package?
> I guess that installing python-yapps is not enough.
>
> Thank you 
> Jiri
>
> Dne neděle 5. dubna 2020 13:14:56 UTC+2 ce...@tuta.io napsal(a):
>
>> Hi, 
>> Apr 5, 2020, 08:40 by >> jiripro...@gmail.com <>>> : 
>>  
>> > Any update on this issue now? 
>> > 
>> yes, this issue was solved by ORing python-yapps (which is in buster: >> 
>> https://packages.debian.org/>> buster/python-yapps>>  ) in place of 
>> yapps2-runtime (which is only for jessie and stretch: >> 
>> https://packages.debian.org/>> stretch/yapps2-runtime>>  ). 
>>  
>> However, machinekit package is obsolete. So it was probably not fixed there. 
>> You can just update the package to use another dependency. 
>>  
>> Cern. 
>>  
>> > Because I am having the same problem. 
>> > 
>> > The following packages have unmet dependencies: 
>> >  machinekit-rt-preempt : Depends: machinekit (= 
>> > 0.1.1570528621.git9239acb-1~>> buster) but it is not going to be installed 
>> >                          Depends: yapps2-runtime but it is not installable 
>> > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Dne neděle 16. února 2020 18:06:37 UTC Mr Greg napsal(a): 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:13:15 UTC, >> >> ce...@tuta.io <>>>  <>>>  
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> Hello, 
>> >>> Feb 16, 2020, 16:59 by >>> >> mr84...@gmail.com <>>>  < : 
>> >>>   
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > On Sunday, 16 February 2020 14:42:33 UTC, >>> >> ce...@tuta.io <>>>  
>> >>> > <   wrote: 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> >> Hello, 
>> >>> >> Feb 15, 2020, 22:06 by >> >>> >> mr84...@gmail.com <>>>  <  <>>> 
>> >>> >> : 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > On Saturday, 15 February 2020 20:26:24 UTC, Bas de Bruijn  wrote: 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >> > Any known workaround for this problem? 
>> >>> >> >>   
>> >>> >> >> Try installing the package manually first. `sudo apt install 
>> >>> >> >> ` 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > My problem is the package   no longer exists in 
>> >>> >> > Buster. It has been removed. 
>> >>> >> > See 
>> >>> >> > >> >>> >> https://reposcope.com/package/>> >>> >> yapps2-runtime>>  
>> >>> >> > >> >>> >>  
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > Machinelit Buster does not recognise the replacement  
>> >>> >> > ( installed manually first ) 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> this is odd. The problems should have been solved a year ago with 
>> >>> >> ORing the python-yapps package for Debian Buster, i.e. this line: >> 
>> >>> >> >>> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>> >>> >> machinekit-hal/blob/>> 
>> >>> >> 120c9f765cf12bcd337b66308b64b3>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> 146a26ec8d/debian/control.d/>> >>> >> control.in#L20 
>> >>> >> >>  <>> http://control.in#L20>>  >>  and 
>> >>> >> the >> >>> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> machinekit-hal/commit/>> d25ca64184660a44fcd6b3162b6e75>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> 84d781ee16>>  commit. 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> I can install Machinekit-HAL  Buster on my amd64 computer without 
>> >>> >> problem. 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> Could you post the command sequence what you are trying to do? 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> Thanks, 
>> >>> >> Cern. 
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > Cheers 
>> >>> >> > MrGreg 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > -- 
>> >>> >> >  website: > >> >>> >> http://www.machinekit.io>> >>> >> >  blog: > 
>> >>> >> > >> >>> >> http://blog.machinekit.io>> >>> >> >  github: > >> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> > https://github.com/machinekit>> >>> >>  >   
>> >>> >> >  --- 
>> >>> >> >  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> >>> >> > Groups "Machinekit" group. 
>> >>> >> >  To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
>> >>> >> > send an email to > >> machi...@>> >>> >> googlegroups.com 
>> >>> >> > >>  <>> http://googlegroups.com>>   
>> >>> >> > <>>> > . 
>> >>> >> >  To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/>>  > >> 
>> >>> >> > msgid/machinekit/40e69652->> 5e83-4285-9055-6dcae4c2852d%>> >>> >>

Re: [Machinekit] BeagleBone with Cramps X steppers Stop during program execution

2020-04-05 Thread John Hammond

Not sure how to capture Axis program startup log. Sometimes when I hold down 
continuous button in Axis for X-Axis it translates less than one inch and 
sometimes it will translate 10 inches without pausing. What values for velocity 
and acceleration should I start with to eliminate pausing? Is the machine not 
entering real time?

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Re: [Machinekit] BBB RootCape - New Cape for BBB

2020-04-05 Thread Peter RCNC Newbery



Hi John,

I am aware of the Replicape hardware but they’re no longer producing this 
cape and its being phased out for their new up and coming hardware, so 
again there is little to no cape support available for the BBB. I starting 
to think the BBB might not be the best solution… 


What are other people using?


However, I don’t think I was clear with my first post. I’m not building 
this for a 3D printer. This it for a CNC router.


I might hold of a little longer with this cape and re-access my options. I 
might stay with Marlin (known and working solution for me but not real 
time) or look more into some other options on the market that don’t break 
the bank. 


On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 11:58:55 PM UTC+1, John Dammeyer wrote:
>
> Hi Peter, 
>
> Much of what you are providing is already there with the Replicape which 
> by the looks of it is out of stock.
>
> https://www.thing-printer.com/product/replicape/
>
> I've got one but haven't yet connected it to my Delta 3D printer.  I had 
> problems with the Manga Screen touch sensitivity.  I sent it back and it 
> was confirmed to be working.  Came back here and didn't work any better.  I 
> then bought a Manga 2 screen but haven't progressed with the project.
>
>  
>
> Looking at the Root CNC web site it seems like you have a pretty 
> impressive little project there.   And I believe the BBB software to 
> support such a printer is already in place with the replicape.  So I'd 
> suggest from a software perspective that is a good starting point.  Granted 
> it's targeted at 3D printing but the infrastructure for motor control is 
> there.
>
>  
>
> I have a CNC router running with MACH3 and more than happy with it.  Haven't 
> seen a reason to change over to anything else that has 3A 55V drivers.  And 
> a CNC router is definitely a project that requires a CNC program.  It's 
> not something you use with hand wheels like a milling machine.
>
>  
>
> OTOH, a milling machine that comes as manual with handles will generally 
> also require larger stepper motors and drives right away.  So drivers on 
> the board are a waste so I'm not sure users would jump in that direction.
>
>  
>
> John
>
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>
> *From:* machi...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> machi...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Peter RCNC Newbery
> *Sent:* April-04-20 3:03 PM
> *To:* Machinekit
> *Subject:* [Machinekit] BBB RootCape - New Cape for BBB
>
>  
>
> Hey everyone,
>
>  
>
> I thought I might share a post about this project I have been working on. 
>
>  
>
> A little background: I'm the designer for the Root CNC project also known 
> as Sailorpete on Thingiverse and the forums (although I’m typically quite 
> on them). I currently building the next revision of the project - Root 4 
> and I wanted a real time motion controller that I could grow into whilst 
> not breaking the bank. I currently use an Arduino controller running a 
> modified version of Marlin, it been working well for the past couple of 
> years but this isn’t real time and doesn’t have some of the features I’m 
> after, like RS 458 comms. I’m an Electronic engineer by trade and the 
> hardware side of the project I understand; the software side is a little 
> difficult so I might be asking more questions down the road. 
>
>  
>
> Currently Root CNC uses some low current Nema23 that have been work great 
> for 3+ years without any issues. These steppers are been driven by the 
> small DRV8825 stepper motor drivers and I’ve never lost any steps nor had 
> any issues. I’m planning on using the same drivers for the new CNC but 
> because this machine is much bigger than the last, I wanted to prevision 
> the breakout the control signals to connector and allow me to use a 
> standard stepper motor driver; Either a PNP or NPN connection type whilst 
> disabling the onboard drivers.
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> on my desk with a single motor connected to it. I’ve found it partially 
> hard to prototype anything with the BBB due to the lack of available capes 
> for sale. So cost is one of my main driving factors for this cape as its 
> very much a prototype for me. My main reason for Machinekit is seeing this 
> software running on the PocketCNC – so I know it can handle my 3 or 4 Axis 
> machines. 
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Re: [Machinekit] Machinekit Buster missing dependency (Debian)?

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