Re: Panther problems
2. If I must live with the current setup, how do I change my MANPATH
in bash. In tcsh I would simply put the line
setenv MANPATH /man:/usr/share/man: ... :${HOME}/man
Personally I would change my default to tcsh in Netinfo
But check out the export command in bash.
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Re: Panther problems
OK, here is my situation. My new system starts absolutely clean. I run cpan in Terminal and accept the default configurations. Then I try When you're installing Perl modules system-wide, you want to use sudo cpan. Since you didn't, everything, including the manuals, were installed into directories specific to your user, which aren't part of the default. That's my understanding, least. 2. If I must live with the current setup, how do I change my MANPATH in bash. In tcsh I would simply put the line Bash doesn't need setenv. MANPATH=/man:/usr/share/man:Users/vic/man That would be correct IF you had a leading slash on Users. You also would have to start a new shell so your new .bash_profile would be read. Incidentally, I too prefer bash to tsch. -- Morbus Iff ( jeez, looks like ookla here has yet to touch the monolith ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: Panther problems
At 8:05 pm -0500 16/11/03, Vic Norton wrote: My problems start when I want to peruse some manuals. Manuals for LWP or TimeDate modules are not immediately accessible. The commands man LWP::Simple man Date::Parse yield absolutely nothing. When I check manpath, I get /usr/share/man:/Users/vic/man. There are definitely no LWP or TimeDate manuals in either of these directories. I had persistent problems with CPAN after first installing Panther. After updating modules on two occasions I found that /usr/bin/perl and /usr/bin/perl5.8.1 had shrunk from their proper size of 98K to 19K and all sorts of things stopped working, eg. perldoc xx. I always make myself root before these operations. I reinstalled 5.8.1 from source twice and everything went fine until I upgraded certain modules. In the end I installed 5.8.2 with the Apple way, ie. to replace 5.8.1, and since then everything has been fine. All my modules have been updated except for Filter::Simple, which cpan always reports as being one point behind in spite of updating. I'm afraid I have no explanation for all this, but 5.8.2 is fine. JD
INSTALLSITEMAN[13]DIR fixes for Panther to prevent /man documentation installation and additional ruminations
* Vic Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] The default shell for Panther is bash. I had become accustomed to tcsh under Jaguar. That is part of my problem. I'm trying to go with bash under the new system. IM(NS)HO, zsh has more tcsh compatibilities, while not suffering from the various deficiencies that plague the csh shells (google for csh programming harmful), and also has (to me) several advantages over other Bourne-based shells, such as MULTIOS and programmable completion. 1. Aren't these package manuals going in the wrong place? Shouldn't they automatically be placed in a subdirectory of /usr/share/man? If so, how do I change the configuration of my system so that the make procedure automatically puts new manuals in the right place? Hmm, I also see a /man directory on my 10.3 system. Let us see where this rabbit hole goes. Poke around in a module build directory that has had perl Makefile.PL run previously in it (which creates the Makefile); I use a non- /root/.cpan/build directory, as outlined at: http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/ Ideally pick a module that installed documentation to /man, but I chose one at random. $ cd /var/spool/cpan/build/DBD-Pg-1.22 $ grep /man Makefile INST_MAN1DIR = blib/man1 INST_MAN3DIR = blib/man3 INSTALLMAN1DIR = $(PERLPREFIX)//usr/share/man/man1 INSTALLSITEMAN1DIR = $(SITEPREFIX)//man/man1 INSTALLVENDORMAN1DIR = $(VENDORPREFIX)/man/man1 INSTALLMAN3DIR = $(PERLPREFIX)//usr/share/man/man3 INSTALLSITEMAN3DIR = $(SITEPREFIX)//man/man3 INSTALLVENDORMAN3DIR = $(VENDORPREFIX)/man/man3 And a secondary lookup at how those *PREFIX are being defined: $ egrep '^(PERL|SITE|VENDOR)PREFIX' Makefile PERLPREFIX = / SITEPREFIX = / VENDORPREFIX = /usr/local SITEPREFIX looks to blame, as it should set ///man as the prefix for INSTALLSITEMAN1DIR and INSTALLSITEMAN3DIR. The others will either be under /usr/local/man or /usr/share/man, which are fine. Ergo, modules using SITEPREFIX-based INSTALLSITEMAN[13]DIR settings will install under /man. To correct this, optionally relocate the exiting documentation (or just delete /man and reinstall the modules once CPAN is reconfigured): $ sudo rsync -avz /man /usr/share $ sudo rm -rf /man Then either use the CPAN shell (peruse `perldoc CPAN` in the shell, and type help in the CPAN shell and investigate o conf makepl_arg) or muck with the system-wide CPAN/Config.pm preferences file directly to set INSTALLSITEMAN1DIR and INSTALLSITEMAN3DIR to a non-/man path. The proper CPAN/Config.pm file to edit may be different from the following if you have installed a new version of perl (say, 5.8.2). $ locate CPAN/Config.pm /System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/CPAN/Config.pm /System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/CPAN/Config.pm~ $ sudo vi `locate CPAN/Config.pm | head -1` $ grep makepl_arg /System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/CPAN/Config.pm 'makepl_arg' = q[INSTALLSITEMAN1DIR=/usr/share/man/man1 INSTALLSITEMAN3DIR=/usr/share/man/man3], P.S. Spanish wine is tasty.
Re: INSTALLSITEMAN[13]DIR fixes for Panther to prevent /man documentation installation and additional ruminations
P.S. Spanish wine is tasty. And Spanish fly is alluring. -- Morbus Iff ( i'm wearing footsie jammies here ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
