backup options?
Dear Perlers, A little while ago I asked about solutions to the graceless failure I was experiencing with psync (would look like it copied data, but would happily create zero-byte files once out of room, without complaining; and on re-psync, would copy reams of links, making me unsure that everything'd been copied before, since it was copying again ...). Rsync was mentioned as a solution, and using rsync under Tiger or using rsyncX, whis looks plausible. However, when I've tried this I've gotten errors. Also, others complain it's not ready for prime time: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/07/22/backup.html? page=2 (see comments in bottom; these reflect my experience, with broken pipe errors, etc.) One happy note was that rsync has a flag for comparing checksums during rsync runs. This assures that copies really put the right data -- and all the right data -- in each of the files. The downside is that I have no idea what it does to compaare checksums on extended attributes, resource forks, or the like. The psync script could certainly have md5 sums added to the scanning cycle of both source and destination, and have a scan of all copied items to ensure the sums were correct ... but I don't have an instinct for the least- overhead way to do this. Also, doing checksums over a connection to a remote volume would create ridiculous traffic: the machine running psync would need to receive all the data in all the files to do a checksum on each, which is in my view why rsync has a client/server model (to do processing on each end, reducing transmission of data). So my questions are: (1) Does psync really have an issue with symlinks, and recopy symlinks all the time? (or is there a difference between relative and absolute paths in symlinks, and does psync treat them differently and thus fail to recognize a good copy during pre-copy checks, forcing recopies?) (2) Does anyone have a solution for copy verification under psync, or should I experiment rolling my own verify flag in the psync script? (3) Does anyone have experience getting backups to work well under rsync, with or without perl involvement? Thanks in advance :-) Best regards, Chris
Re: psync backup problems: suggestions?
On Jul 10, 2005, at 11:39 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Christopher == Christopher D Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christopher Dear psync users, This may not help, but I'm about to be a former psync user, because Tiger's rsync now understands the HFS fork, if you include -E. This presumably also includes the extended-access lists which psync won't handle. I thought the issue wasn't a patched rsync, but filesystem changes that made regular unix tools automatically get the resource fork when they tried to move, rename, etc. I don't fully understand what it's doing, which makes me nervous -- also, I don't know how non- Tiger remote systems will treat data sent by rsync on Tiger, so I'm not sure how this will work for me as a backup. I will happily look forward to your tales of success (rather than woe) and proceed accordingly once you describe the transition into former psync user status. On the other hand, I have a warm spot in my heart for Perl, and I'll happily use psync 'till the cows come home if I can work out how not to get bitten by this silent failure to back up issue -- say, by following backup with a check for zero-length files on the destination volume, since that's the symptom. The incremental (within files) nature of rsync backups *does* have appeal, though, especially as I consider remote backup; my current setup involves only backup to an external drive. Now to spend a few hours reverse engineering carbon-copy-cloner so that I can ensure that I'm copying only the stuff that doesn't get cleared on reboot anyway... rsyncing your swap file across the internet could prove tiresome :-) Best regards, Chris
Re: keychain
On Apr 21, 2005, at 7:15 AM, Ken Williams wrote: Hi Joseph, In my address book, I've got several of those too. I believe they're certificates from people who have signed their messages. If you don't know them, they're probably on a list you're on. You may not notice it, but lots of people send signed messages to lists. Mail.app grabs the x.509 certificate, and then stores it inthe keychain for later authentications. Can be deleted without ill effect. Check the item details before you delete to make sure it's a x.509 cert, or somethign else you're happy to part with. Best regards, Chris
Re: Noob perl question re psync (dyld: perl Undefined symbols)
Update on my situation: On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 07:24 PM, Christopher D. Lewis wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 05:56 PM, Ken Williams wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 02:26 PM, Christopher D. Lewis wrote: Dear Wiser Folks, I was getting this: % psync -v dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap So I thought I had a badly-synced perl and psync and recompiled Perl according to the directions on Apple's page. I still get this exact error after usign CPAN to install MacOSX::File. What is my real problem? You probably didn't need to re-install perl, you probably needed to re-install psync (and MacOSX::File). I did. Now, I'm doing a forced reinstall. I'll report back :-) After recompiling Perl and doing a forced install of MacOS::File, I get: % psync -v dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap ... exactly where I started. I have an acute need to backup a volume. Will psync work with this error? Is this safe? Feedback very appreciated. Best regards, Chris
Re: Noob perl question re psync (dyld: perl Undefined symbols)
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 10:09 PM, Ken Williams wrote: Unfortunately it won't work at all, no. That's a fatal error. ... Assuming you're using tcsh as the shell, try this: env DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 psync -v and then see what the last library it tries to load before the error is. Then re-install that module. The last library mentioned before the error is: loading libraries for image: /System/Library/Frameworks/DirectoryService.framework/Versions/A/ DirectoryService I think it's a library for Perl 5.6.1 which shipped with the machine, and I'm using 5.8 now. Advice? Can I get what I need to reinstall this? Entire output of command below. Thanks, Chris % env DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES=1 psync -v loading libraries for image: perl loading library: /Library/Perl/darwin/CORE/libperl.dylib loading library: /usr/local/lib/libdl.1.dylib loading library: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib loading libraries for image: /Library/Perl/darwin/CORE/libperl.dylib loading libraries for image: /usr/local/lib/libdl.1.dylib loading libraries for image: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib loading library: /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib loading libraries for image: /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib loading libraries for image: /Library/Perl/darwin/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.bundle loading libraries for image: /Library/Perl/darwin/auto/DB_File/DB_File.bundle loading libraries for image: /Library/Perl/darwin/auto/MacOSX/File/Copy/Copy.bundle loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon loading libraries for image: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ ApplicationServices loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ Help.framework/Versions/A/Help loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ Print.framework/Versions/A/Print loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox loading libraries for image: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/ CoreFoundation loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/ CoreServices loading libraries for image: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition loading libraries for image: /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security loading libraries for image: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ ApplicationServices loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/PrintCore.framework/Versions/A/PrintCore loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD loading library: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/LangAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/LangAnalysis
Re: Noob perl question re psync (dyld: perl Undefined symbols)
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 10:28 PM, Ken Williams wrote: The last perl library that loads seems to be MacOSX::File::Copy. Can you load that in isolation either? % perl -MMacOSX::File::Copy -e1 dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap You seem to have hit the target. This is the error I get running psync. What do I do to fix this? Was it not gotten with the forced reinstall of MacOS::File? How would I do it differently? Are there places I would look for a broken copy, perhaps from an old installation? Thanks, Chris
Noob perl question re psync
Dear Wiser Folks, I was getting this: % psync -v dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap So I thought I had a badly-synced perl and psync and recompiled Perl according to the directions on Apple's page. I still get this exact error after usign CPAN to install MacOSX::File. What is my real problem? Sorry to waste your bandwidth, Chris
Re: Noob perl question re psync
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 05:56 PM, Ken Williams wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 02:26 PM, Christopher D. Lewis wrote: Dear Wiser Folks, I was getting this: % psync -v dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap So I thought I had a badly-synced perl and psync and recompiled Perl according to the directions on Apple's page. I still get this exact error after usign CPAN to install MacOSX::File. What is my real problem? You probably didn't need to re-install perl, you probably needed to re-install psync (and MacOSX::File). I did. Now, I'm doing a forced reinstall. I'll report back :-) --Chris
CPAN/compilation issues
Dearest and most learned MacOS X / Perl worthies, I've had problems recently trying to update my Perl modules ... I got a lot of this sort of thing: t/06gzdopen.dyld: /usr/bin/perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_safefree _Perl_safemalloc _Perl_sv_2pv _Perl_sv_catpvn _perl_get_sv t/06gzdopen.dubious Test returned status 0 (wstat 5, 0x5) Any ideas? What do I need to do to fix this? What have I likely got out of synch? A similar vein, I get this: % psync -h dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap (just running perl programs that don't use any additional modules seem to go off without error, though) Thanks in advance, Chris * Love Like You Don't Need The Money Work Like Nobody's Watching Dance Like You've Never Been Hurt *
Phantom Line Numbers
I'm writing a little toy tool to teach myself more Perl than I have used before, and I am puzzled by error messages I get when trying to run and debug it: syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 187, near sub displayResults syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 305, near sub rollRequest syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 325, near while @rawRollArray syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 457, near } Execution of ./nudice-01c aborted due to compilation errors. The problem is, you see, that (according to two different text editors) nudice-01c has only 304 lines Any ideas how I debug lines which don't exist? Any ideas why Perl is reporting nonexistent line numbers? Perl 5.8.0. Thanks in advance, Chris
Re: Debugging Problem: Phantom line numbers!
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 10:31 AM, Peter Scott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher D . Lewis) writes: My problem is that the errors Perl coughs up end with: syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 187, near sub displayResults syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 305, near sub rollRequest syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 325, near while @rawRollArray syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 457, near } Execution of ./nudice-01c aborted due to compilation errors. This would be all well and good, except that every text editor I point at my program agrees that the actual line count ends at 304. Ideas? What line numbers do your text editors say the above statements are actually on? Sprinkle a few print __LINE__; statements around and see what Perl thinks the line numbers are. I replaced the entirety of sub displayResults with: sub displayResults { print __line__ . sub displayResults; } (both to get Perl's idea of the line numbers, and to implement another suggestion I replace contents of problem subroutines with simple code to track down bugs) and my errors went from: chris% ./nudice-01c my variable $labelThrow masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 193. my variable @requests masks earlier declaration in same statement at ./nudice-01c line 193. my variable $requestNumber masks earlier declaration in same statement at ./nudice-01c line 193. my variable $labelThrow masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 195. my variable @requests masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 195. my variable $requestNumber masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 195. my variable $labelThrow masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 197. my variable @requests masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 197. my variable $requestNumber masks earlier declaration in same scope at ./nudice-01c line 197. my variable @requests masks earlier declaration in same statement at ./nudice-01c line 197. my variable $requestNumber masks earlier declaration in same statement at ./nudice-01c line 197. syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 187, near sub displayResults syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 305, near sub rollRequest syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 325, near while @rawRollArray syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 457, near } Execution of ./nudice-01c aborted due to compilation errors. to the more modest: chris% ./nudice-01c syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 187, near sub displayResults syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 189, near sub rollRequest syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 209, near while @rawRollArray syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 341, near } Execution of ./nudice-01c aborted due to compilation errors. So, now that I know all the variable problems are in displayResults despite the line numbers being off, I can start looking outside displayResults for the other errors. I note in passing that I can't find a bunch of my labelThrow masking one another, as in displayResults I make the label for each throw using: my $labelThrow; # Identifies throw type for table readers # Calculates Label for Throw $labelThrow .= $requests[$requestNumber]{numDicePerThrow} if $requests[$requestNumber]{numDicePerThrow} 1; # Puts numDice in throw's label if 1 $labelThrow .= d . $requests[$requestNumber]{numSidesPerDie}; # Puts Die size $labelThrow .= $requests[$requestNumber]{numAddedToThrow} if $requests[$requestNumber]{numAddedToThrow};#Puts numAddedToThrow in throw's labal if nonzero Does anyone spot what I'm doing wrong in trying to build a this label's contents in this way? Note that I have no idea at all what I'm doing with these data structures, what's why it is practice :-). @requests is not created expressly, but is created as data is stuffed into $requests[$requestNumber]{numDicePerThrow} and the like. It looks like I need a primer on using these sort of storage tools. Advice? Have Learning Perl and Advanced Perl Programming on hand... Many thanks, Chris
Phantom Line Numbers
I'm writing a little toy tool to teach myself more Perl than I have used before, and I am puzzled by error messages I get when trying to run and debug it: syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 187, near sub displayResults syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 305, near sub rollRequest syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 325, near while @rawRollArray syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 457, near } Execution of ./nudice-01c aborted due to compilation errors. The problem is, you see, that (according to two different text editors) nudice-01c has only 304 lines Any ideas how I debug lines which don't exist? Any ideas why Perl is reporting nonexistent line numbers? Perl 5.8.0. Thanks in advance, Chris
Re: Phantom Line Numbers
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Andy Lester wrote: syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 187, near sub displayResults syntax error at ./nudice-01c line 305, near sub rollRequest The problem is, you see, that (according to two different text editors) nudice-01c has only 304 lines Line numbers aside, you can find sub rollRequest, cancha? Yes, it starts on 189 and continues to 267, hence my hope to narrow down the line number search :-) On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 5:53:20 PM, drieux wrote: I would start up around line 186 to begin with. Since that could be the start of the 'real issue' and hence that it is then finding stray carriage returns that would otherwise be parts of outgoing print statements and growing the offset. As such start with looking for where you have that first sub - and work out what in that area has gone wrong. displayResults begins on 130 and goes to 187, though several intended features are not actually implemented yet -- I just wanted to see what I needed to do to get it running. I was able to eliminate several compile errors, but got stuck when the errors stopped giving me clues I knew how to follow. I will have to dedicate some more time to hunting down whatever might be wrong in these subroutines ... I may need to make a bunch of little test apps to try what I'm doing and see, piecemeal, what breaks and what works. Thanks! --Chris
Re: Apple Perl directory layout
I did file a bug via http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback and subsequently, wsanchez apparently submitted a perl patch which leads to version-numbers in the pathname. --Chris On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 01:38 PM, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As I guess most of you know, Apple's system Perl layout is broken, because it doesn't version the module directories and this means Perl upgrade trauma. Anyway, I just found out that Apple has no bugs on this, there are no open, or it seems, closed bugs on the way perl is installed with the base system. I'd like to encourage people to file a bug on this, so when apple upgrades the system Perl to 5.8.x they will hopefully use a sane directory layout thanks Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQE99PEmilk3LUlIL0MRAi5bAJsGxl11NGSlPcmvpVTXemIg/AsYAgCdHxrT e3qD3ZW2FXBwcTa2XErXQcM= =Dt1w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Perl version in pathname
wsanchez' hints file patch cures this concern, no? --Chris
Re: Math::Pari -- anyone using it on MacOS X?
On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 10:59 PM, Ken Williams wrote: On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 04:47 PM, Christopher D. Lewis wrote: On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 05:49 PM, Ken Williams wrote: The error messages below aren't helpful, they just say that there were error messages in a previous run. In the CPAN shell, do 'clean Math::Pari' and then 'test Math::Pari' to see the real error messages. This may look lame, but I am new enough to lack even rudimentary troubleshooting (besides installing modules when an error says can't find Module X. The error I get when followign your prescription is: [looking good up to ...] Getting GP/PARI from ftp://megrez.math.u-bordeaux.fr/pub/pari/unix/ Cannot list (): at utils/Math/PariBuild.pm line 167, line 1. Running make test Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test I still don't understand your message - what do you mean [looking good up to ...]? Sorry, the output from the command to test follows. Many thanks for looking, Chris ---begin copy--- cpan test Math::Pari Running test for module Math::Pari Running make for I/IL/ILYAZ/modules/Math-Pari-2.010305.tar.gz Checksum for /Volumes/Storage/cpan/sources/authors/id/I/IL/ILYAZ/modules/Math-Pari- 2.010305.tar.gz ok Math-Pari-2.010305 Math-Pari-2.010305/utils Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/Math Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/Math/PariBuild.pm Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/paridoc_to_pod Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/notes Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/README Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/inc.h Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/chap3_to_pod Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/comp_funcs.pl Math-Pari-2.010305/utils/foncpari.pl Math-Pari-2.010305/typemap Math-Pari-2.010305/libPARI Math-Pari-2.010305/libPARI/extract_codes.pl Math-Pari-2.010305/libPARI/codes_2014 Math-Pari-2.010305/libPARI/expected_codes Math-Pari-2.010305/libPARI/gphelp Math-Pari-2.010305/libPARI/Makefile.PL Math-Pari-2.010305/Pari.xs Math-Pari-2.010305/test_eng Math-Pari-2.010305/test_eng/ex.t Math-Pari-2.010305/test_eng/Testout.pm Math-Pari-2.010305/Makefile.PL Math-Pari-2.010305/PariInit.pm Math-Pari-2.010305/README Math-Pari-2.010305/patches Math-Pari-2.010305/patches/diff_2.1.3_interface Math-Pari-2.010305/patches/diff_2.2.2_interface Math-Pari-2.010305/patches/diff_pari-2.1.3-ix86-divl Math-Pari-2.010305/patches/diff_2.1.2_gccism Math-Pari-2.010305/t Math-Pari-2.010305/t/Pari.t Math-Pari-2.010305/t/PlotRect.t Math-Pari-2.010305/TODO Math-Pari-2.010305/Pari.pm Math-Pari-2.010305/MANIFEST Math-Pari-2.010305/INSTALL Math-Pari-2.010305/Changes Removing previously used /Volumes/Storage/cpan/build/Math-Pari-2.010305 CPAN.pm: Going to build I/IL/ILYAZ/modules/Math-Pari-2.010305.tar.gz Did not find GP/PARI build directory around. Do you want to me to fetch GP/PARI automatically? (If you do not, you will need to fetch it manually, and/or direct me to the directory with GP/PARI source via the command-line option paridir=/dir) Make sure you have a large scrollback buffer to see the messages. Fetch? (y/n, press Enter) y Getting GP/PARI from ftp://megrez.math.u-bordeaux.fr/pub/pari/unix/ Cannot list (): at utils/Math/PariBuild.pm line 167, line 1. Running make test Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test ---end copy---
Re: Math::Pari -- anyone using it on MacOS X?
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 05:49 PM, Ken Williams wrote: Chris, If you look at http://testers.cpan.org/search?request=distdist=Math-Pari , you'll see that nobody has yet reported success or failure on Darwin. That's usually a good place to look. The error messages below aren't helpful, they just say that there were error messages in a previous run. In the CPAN shell, do 'clean Math::Pari' and then 'test Math::Pari' to see the real error messages. -Ken This may look lame, but I am new enough to lack even rudimentary troubleshooting (besides installing modules when an error says can't find Module X. The error I get when followign your prescription is: [looking good up to ...] Getting GP/PARI from ftp://megrez.math.u-bordeaux.fr/pub/pari/unix/ Cannot list (): at utils/Math/PariBuild.pm line 167, line 1. Running make test Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test and without test, no install without force. Thoughts? List I should look at? Many thanks, Chris
Math::Pari -- anyone using it on MacOS X?
CPAN gave me: Running install for module Math::Pari Running make for I/IL/ILYAZ/modules/Math-Pari-2.010305.tar.gz Is already unwrapped into directory /Volumes/Storage/cpan/build/Math-Pari-2.010305 Makefile.PL returned status 65280 Running make test Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test Running make install Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't install Does anyone have this running? It seems to be a dependency of Crypt::Random, which I was hoping to use (though I can read directly from /dev/random myself I suppose for really random date). Thoughts appreciated. I want really random numbers. Best regards, Chris