Re: Faxing
24 jan 2006 kl. 11.43 skrev Alan Fry: As a PS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested to me [slightly condensed]:- Well, I'd skip the Perl - applescript - Terminal - bash hoopla why not just use system(efax command line) or just back-ticks. Indeed that's much better, faster, and cleaner, and works fine. how about using convert for producing the tiffs? I think there is a version included in Mac OS X, but since I tend to install imagemagick myself at some point I should not make any promises...
Re: Faxing
everything you might want to do from within Perl can be done quite simply by firstly using 'gs' to convert the file to faxable format and sending the fax by 'efax'. In both cases a suitable shell script can be invoked from within a perl script by an AppleScript 'do script' command. I hope this may be of interest to some with my apologies to those not interested in faxing from Perl for his long spiel. Alan Fry On 18 Jan 2006, at 09:10, Robert Whittle wrote: I managed to get perl to send faxes using the 'fax' front-end program, but never satisfactorily. I had to use root user to send faxes and I never managed to send any faxes that has graphics in the. In the end I installed PageSender, which has examples of sending faxes via AppleScript, and I called the AppleScript from perl. I know that sounds a lot more round-about but it had a lot of advantages for me. I could send HTML files, correctly formated, and there is a record kept which you can view in the GUI of all faxes send, or not. If you do get something working, I'd be very interested to know how you got it done Robert Whittle On 18 Jan 2006, at 08:29, Dominic Dunlop wrote: On 2006–01–17, at 20:29, Bill Stephenson wrote: Is there a way to fax a document using the built-in Mac OSX (10.3) fax feature with perl? Well, the command-line program underlying the facility is efax. There's also a simplified front-end program, fax. You could try calling either of those with system() or whatever. Alternatively, CUPS makes the fax modem visible as a printer once it's configured -- run lpinfo -v and you should see it listed. This means that you should be able simply to pipe the stuff you want to fax to lpr. The trick would be to work out what option you need to put on the command line in order to get the number dialled, and acceptable formats for the data. (Text is probably OK. Beyond that, I've no idea.) Not that I've tried either possibility myself. I want to write a script that faxes selected members of congress my humble opinions ;) A laudable aim. -- Dominic Dunlop
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On 25 Jan 2006, at 10:32, Robert Whittle wrote: Thanks for the detailed and useful info provided. When using the efax approach described, is there any record available anywhere that tells you whether or not the fax was successfully sent or not? Options to retry if the number is busy ? There are return codes from 'efax' which tell you what transpired: 0 The fax was successfully sent or received. 1 The dialed number was busy or the modem device was in use. Try again later. 2 Something failed (e.g. file not found or disk full). Don’t retry. Check the session log for more details. 3 Modem protocol error. The program did not receive the expected response from the modem. The modem may not have been properly initialized, the correct -o options were not used, or a bug report may be in order. Check the session log for more details. 4 The modem is not responding. Operator attention is required. Check that the modem is turned on and connected to the correct port. 5 The program was terminated by a signal. I guess one would have to handle the return codes appropriately in the perl script. This, and much more information on the capabilities of 'efax' are all to be found in the 'man pages': type 'man efax' into the Terminal window. HTH
Re: Faxing
On 23 Jan 2006, at 17:34, Bill Stephenson wrote: On Jan 23, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Alan Fry wrote: I was intrigued by the original question and have done some experiments on this G4 running Mac OS X 10.4.4. snip Wow, thanks for sharing what you've learned! Admittedly, I haven't had much time to play with this since I asked that question but your reply puts me way ahead of where I was then. I'd also like to thank everyone else that replied. If I get my Fax the House script finished I'll post a copy of it. As a PS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested to me [slightly condensed]:- Well, I'd skip the Perl - applescript - Terminal - bash hoopla why not just use system(efax command line) or just back-ticks. Indeed that's much better, faster, and cleaner, and works fine. Many thanks for your kind remarks. I look forward to seeing Fax the House in due course. Alan
Re: Faxing
be of interest to some with my apologies to those not interested in faxing from Perl for his long spiel. Alan Fry On 18 Jan 2006, at 09:10, Robert Whittle wrote: I managed to get perl to send faxes using the 'fax' front-end program, but never satisfactorily. I had to use root user to send faxes and I never managed to send any faxes that has graphics in the. In the end I installed PageSender, which has examples of sending faxes via AppleScript, and I called the AppleScript from perl. I know that sounds a lot more round-about but it had a lot of advantages for me. I could send HTML files, correctly formated, and there is a record kept which you can view in the GUI of all faxes send, or not. If you do get something working, I'd be very interested to know how you got it done Robert Whittle On 18 Jan 2006, at 08:29, Dominic Dunlop wrote: On 2006–01–17, at 20:29, Bill Stephenson wrote: Is there a way to fax a document using the built-in Mac OSX (10.3) fax feature with perl? Well, the command-line program underlying the facility is efax. There's also a simplified front-end program, fax. You could try calling either of those with system() or whatever. Alternatively, CUPS makes the fax modem visible as a printer once it's configured -- run lpinfo -v and you should see it listed. This means that you should be able simply to pipe the stuff you want to fax to lpr. The trick would be to work out what option you need to put on the command line in order to get the number dialled, and acceptable formats for the data. (Text is probably OK. Beyond that, I've no idea.) Not that I've tried either possibility myself. I want to write a script that faxes selected members of congress my humble opinions ;) A laudable aim. -- Dominic Dunlop
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On Jan 23, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Alan Fry wrote: I was intrigued by the original question and have done some experiments on this G4 running Mac OS X 10.4.4. snip Wow, thanks for sharing what you've learned! Admittedly, I haven't had much time to play with this since I asked that question but your reply puts me way ahead of where I was then. I'd also like to thank everyone else that replied. If I get my Fax the House script finished I'll post a copy of it. Kindest Regards, -- Bill Stephenson
Re: Faxing
I managed to get perl to send faxes using the 'fax' front-end program, but never satisfactorily. I had to use root user to send faxes and I never managed to send any faxes that has graphics in the. In the end I installed PageSender, which has examples of sending faxes via AppleScript, and I called the AppleScript from perl. I know that sounds a lot more round-about but it had a lot of advantages for me. I could send HTML files, correctly formated, and there is a record kept which you can view in the GUI of all faxes send, or not. If you do get something working, I'd be very interested to know how you got it done Robert Whittle On 18 Jan 2006, at 08:29, Dominic Dunlop wrote: On 2006–01–17, at 20:29, Bill Stephenson wrote: Is there a way to fax a document using the built-in Mac OSX (10.3) fax feature with perl? Well, the command-line program underlying the facility is efax. There's also a simplified front-end program, fax. You could try calling either of those with system() or whatever. Alternatively, CUPS makes the fax modem visible as a printer once it's configured -- run lpinfo -v and you should see it listed. This means that you should be able simply to pipe the stuff you want to fax to lpr. The trick would be to work out what option you need to put on the command line in order to get the number dialled, and acceptable formats for the data. (Text is probably OK. Beyond that, I've no idea.) Not that I've tried either possibility myself. I want to write a script that faxes selected members of congress my humble opinions ;) A laudable aim. -- Dominic Dunlop
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Robert Whittle wrote: : I managed to get perl to send faxes using the 'fax' front-end program, but : never satisfactorily. I had to use root user to send faxes and I never managed : to send any faxes that has graphics in the. In the end I installed PageSender, : which has examples of sending faxes via AppleScript, and I called the : AppleScript from perl. I know that sounds a lot more round-about but it had a : lot of advantages for me. Also, anything that supports AppleScript can be driven directly from Perl using Mac::Glue. -- ...while the Japanese are unable to duplicate the American film [market] they can destroy it by this video cassette recorder. - Jack Valenti, 1982
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At 13:29 -0600 1/17/06, Bill Stephenson wrote: I want to write a script that faxes selected members of congress my humble opinions ;) You can send e-mail from perl and that leads to two options: 1) Send the email to efax (sp) where it can be converted to FAX and sent for a fee. 2) Don't vote for representatives who steadfastly refuse to publish an e-mail address. I know, they will need a clerk to read it but that's true for the FAX too. Joel Hefley; are you listening? -- -- Love your country. But don't trust its government. --
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Hi Doug, I like the idea of efax. It seems good but costs $13/month. That is a little high for me considering I send or receive about 5 faxes a year. I wonder if there is another place that only charges when you do something? On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 13:29 -0600 1/17/06, Bill Stephenson wrote: I want to write a script that faxes selected members of congress my humble opinions ;) You can send e-mail from perl and that leads to two options: 1) Send the email to efax (sp) where it can be converted to FAX and sent for a fee. 2) Don't vote for representatives who steadfastly refuse to publish an e-mail address. I know, they will need a clerk to read it but that's true for the FAX too. Joel Hefley; are you listening. I was under the impression that all US representatives get an email address automatically assigned to them, whether they use it or not. -- Love your country. But don't trust its government. --
Faxing
Is there a way to fax a document using the built-in Mac OSX (10.3) fax feature with perl? I want to write a script that faxes selected members of congress my humble opinions ;) Kindest regards, -- Bill Stephenson
