Re: XML::Simple install problems
On 11/9/05, Shawn O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question: I've a lot of bad luck with cpan not installing modules. If I install OS X 10.4, will I get a clean perl installation to work with? I didn't bother with the default Apple install of perl (mostly because I knew I'd botch it eventually), so I installed perl for my primary user on my powerbook. It took a bit of reading through the install docs, but the options to install a local, personal perl weren't that bad. I couldn't figure out how to install a system-wide perl without running my administration account, so I've got perl under chris/opt/perl-5.8.7/... Do an interactive install, give it a path to install to, say yes a lot, watch it go. Good luck. -- Chris Cantrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XML::Simple install problems
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Chris Cantrall wrote: user on my powerbook. It took a bit of reading through the install docs, but the options to install a local, personal perl weren't that bad. Reading the docs is a *good* thing, and I don't mean to imply otherwise by saying this... :-) Even if you hadn't read the docs, or read them very closely, you would have been OK. The default is to install under /usr/local, well out of harm's way. You actually have to work at it to screw things up now - although that wasn't always the case. I couldn't figure out how to install a system-wide perl without running my administration account Use sudo for the final step. I.e: sudo make install Naturally, if Perl's installed this way, you'll also need to use sudo to install modules: sudo /usr/local/bin/perl -MCPAN -e shell sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
Re: XML::Simple install problems
At 05:32 PM 11/9/2005, Sherm Pendley wrote: On the other hand, because it's configured to use a different architecture, many of the CPAN modules you've installed for this Perl will not work with the standard Tiger Perl. And if problems do happen to crop up, they'll be obscure and difficult to diagnose and debug. Thanks. I'll pay more attention next time I mess with the installation. I guess I told cpan to do the wrong thing last time I upgraded. Besides README.macosx, do you know of other good documentation on perl installation hygiene? --Shawn
Re: XML::Simple install problems
On Nov 10, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Shawn O'Donnell wrote: At 05:32 PM 11/9/2005, Sherm Pendley wrote: On the other hand, because it's configured to use a different architecture, many of the CPAN modules you've installed for this Perl will not work with the standard Tiger Perl. And if problems do happen to crop up, they'll be obscure and difficult to diagnose and debug. Thanks. I'll pay more attention next time I mess with the installation. I guess I told cpan to do the wrong thing last time I upgraded. It's not really a question of the right vs. wrong configuration. It's just options, whether you want Perl to support multi-threading or not, 32- or 64-bit, etc. A module that was compiled for a multi- threaded Perl isn't compatible with one that was compiled for a single-threaded Perl. Same thing with 32- vs. 64-bit, 5.6.x vs. 5.8.x, etc. But Perl's installer knows all about that, so it very rarely causes problems. It's why some modules are installed in specific subdirectories such as 5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level. Only a that specific version and configuration of perl will include that subdir in @INC by default. A few years ago, the problem was much worse - Apple's installation of 5.6.0 on 10.0, 10.1, and 10.2 omitted the version subdirectory, and the configure script for 5.8.0 had problems of its own. That resulted in a lot of problems for folks who tried to upgrade. But that's all ancient history now. Besides README.macosx, do you know of other good documentation on perl installation hygiene? The generic README is pretty thorough, and now that we're using a *nix system it's virtually all relevant. The first part of the ExtUtils::MakeMaker man page is very informative about what module pieces are installed where. sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
XML::Simple install problems
I'm trying to install XML::Simple 2.14 using cpan. Running perl v5.8.6 built for darwin-2level on OS 10.3.9 The problems start in the install report about here: # PackageVersion # perl 5.8.6 # XML::Simple2.14 # Storable 2.13 # XML::Parser2.34 # XML::SAX 0.13 # XML::NamespaceSupport 1.09 # XML::SAX::PurePerl 0.90 (default parser) t/0_Configok t/1_XMLin.ok 5/122Unable to recognise encoding of this document at /Library/Perl/5.8.6/XML/SAX/PurePerl/EncodingDetect.pm line 96. t/1_XMLin.ok 7/122Unable to recognise encoding of this document at /Library/Perl/5.8.6/XML/SAX/PurePerl/EncodingDetect.pm line 96. And so forth with the encoding errors for a couple of pages. There are a few other errors along the way but things appear to have gone bad well before thm. Finally, cpan reports: Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- t/1_XMLin.t 4 1024 1224 3.28% 32 38-39 122 t/2_XMLout.t1 256 1961 0.51% 47 1 subtest skipped. Failed 2/11 test scripts, 81.82% okay. 5/468 subtests failed, 98.93% okay. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 2 /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force Any ideas what I've done wrong? Another question: I've a lot of bad luck with cpan not installing modules. If I install OS X 10.4, will I get a clean perl installation to work with?
Re: XML::Simple install problems
On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Shawn O'Donnell wrote: I'm trying to install XML::Simple 2.14 using cpan. Running perl v5.8.6 built for darwin-2level on OS 10.3.9 t/1_XMLin.ok 5/122Unable to recognise encoding of this document at /Library/Perl/5.8.6/XML/SAX/PurePerl/EncodingDetect.pm line 96. Another question: I've a lot of bad luck with cpan not installing modules. If I install OS X 10.4, will I get a clean perl installation to work with? As shown above, you've installed your copy of 5.8.6 in the location normally reserved for the Apple-supplied Perl. It's configured with a different architecture (darwin-2level) than that used by the Perl included with Tiger (darwin-thread-multi-2level), so that *probably* won't cause any major show-stopping problems, since architecture- specific libraries and modules are stored in different subdirectories. Panther-to-Tiger upgrades are much smoother in that regard than Jaguar-to-Panther upgrades were. On the other hand, because it's configured to use a different architecture, many of the CPAN modules you've installed for this Perl will not work with the standard Tiger Perl. And if problems do happen to crop up, they'll be obscure and difficult to diagnose and debug. For future reference, it's worth keeping in mind that the easiest thing is to take the advice in readme.macosx, and install your custom Perl in an out-of-the-way location. OS upgrades are like an oncoming train - it's easy to see them coming, and you know where they'll be going, so the easy way to avoid most problems is to simply stay off the tracks. As far as the XML::Simple module goes... I'd use force install. With 463 out of 468 subtests passing and only 5 failing, the odds are very good that your own script won't trip over the problem indicated by the failures. sherm-- Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
