Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-04 Thread Joseph Alotta
On May 3, 2004, at 11:17 PM, Ken Williams wrote:
Oh, certainly - you can interrupt basically anything at all on the 
computer with sleep, and it will simply continue where it left off.  I 
do this all the time with compilations, long-running scientific 
experiments, regression tests, etc. on my PowerBook.  The 
wake-from-sleep functionality is very robust and fast.

The only trouble you're likely to see is when an external resource 
(like a network or a printer) doesn't like you pausing in the middle 
of something you're doing to it, and then some operations involving 
that resource might not just continue where you left off.

 -Ken
Thanks, Ken,
Yes, I have had some trouble with my printer when the powerbook gets 
sleepy.  One time it just kept printing one character on a page and 
used up all the paper.   But the disk drive is a local firewire drive, 
so it should be okay.

Joe.



Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Ken Williams
On May 3, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Hi Jerry,
I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup"  and it worked real nice.  I 
kind of like watching
it work while I do other things.  If my powerbook were to sleep in the 
middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where 
it left off?
I think it depends how /Volumes/backup is mounted.  If it's a local 
drive connected by USB or Firewire or whatever, everything should be 
fine.  If it's a remote drive, it might not be happy.

 -Ken


Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Ken Williams
On May 3, 2004, at 6:37 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
Hmmm, maybe it will work... I started the following shell script
#!/bin/sh
i=1
while true
do
echo $i
i=`expr $i + 1 `
done
I forced the system to sleep for a few seconds, woke it up and the
script kept on trucking...
Oh, certainly - you can interrupt basically anything at all on the 
computer with sleep, and it will simply continue where it left off.  I 
do this all the time with compilations, long-running scientific 
experiments, regression tests, etc. on my PowerBook.  The 
wake-from-sleep functionality is very robust and fast.

The only trouble you're likely to see is when an external resource 
(like a network or a printer) doesn't like you pausing in the middle of 
something you're doing to it, and then some operations involving that 
resource might not just continue where you left off.

 -Ken


Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Joseph Alotta
I think this question has come up before, but if there is an API for 
the Energy Saving settings (or whatever those are in English), I think 
I'd want to have my backup script set the system to not sleep while 
the backup was in progress, and then restore the setting when done. 
Until that part is working, I'd change the setting by hand, of course.

Joel Rees
Thanks Joel.  I searched and found some shareware that puts enhanced 
controls into your menu bar including Energy Savings.  Whoever wrote it 
had to use the API, so there must be one.

Joe.


Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Joseph Alotta
Hi Jerry,
I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup"  and it worked real nice.  I 
kind of like watching
it work while I do other things.  If my powerbook were to sleep in the 
middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where 
it left off?

Joe.
On May 3, 2004, at 6:54 AM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to 
psync
you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you installed
DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives
a command for copying an entire volume.

Let us know how it turns out...
Jerry
On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Jerry,
On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, 
subsequent invocations
just looks at differences...

I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the 
task is finished.
It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and 
adjusting permissions).
If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu.  Why 
can't I just put the psync command in cron?

I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu 
bar (on the right
hand side), you might try looking there...
It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator.  
But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it 
has done or what remains.

Joe.

I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a 
consortium of educational
users, you might take a look at that.

Jerry
On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running 
and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd 
playback).  I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it 
had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now 
it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could 
be doing, preference panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%

This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%

So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it 
has four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File 
sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not like 
the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like 
this.

Joe.







Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Jerry LeVan
Heh, Heh,
I was hoping someone would answer that question, my totally uninformed 
guess
is that something bad *could* happen...but I don't know...

Let us know :)
Jerry
On May 3, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Hi Jerry,
I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup"  and it worked real nice.  I 
kind of like watching
it work while I do other things.  If my powerbook were to sleep in the 
middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where 
it left off?

Joe.
On May 3, 2004, at 6:54 AM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to 
psync
you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you 
installed
DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives
a command for copying an entire volume.

Let us know how it turns out...
Jerry
On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Jerry,
On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, 
subsequent invocations
just looks at differences...

I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after 
the task is finished.
It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and 
adjusting permissions).
If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu.  
Why can't I just put the psync command in cron?

I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu 
bar (on the right
hand side), you might try looking there...
It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator.  
But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it 
has done or what remains.

Joe.

I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a 
consortium of educational
users, you might take a look at that.

Jerry
On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running 
and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd 
playback).  I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it 
had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now 
it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it 
could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%

This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%

So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it 
has four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. 
File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not 
like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in 
times like this.

Joe.








Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Jerry LeVan
Hmmm, maybe it will work... I started the following shell script
#!/bin/sh
i=1
while true
do
echo $i
i=`expr $i + 1 `
done
I forced the system to sleep for a few seconds, woke it up and the
script kept on trucking...
Jerry
On May 3, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Hi Jerry,
I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup"  and it worked real nice.  I 
kind of like watching
it work while I do other things.  If my powerbook were to sleep in the 
middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where 
it left off?

Joe.
On May 3, 2004, at 6:54 AM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to 
psync
you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you 
installed
DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives
a command for copying an entire volume.

Let us know how it turns out...
Jerry
On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Jerry,
On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, 
subsequent invocations
just looks at differences...

I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after 
the task is finished.
It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and 
adjusting permissions).
If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu.  
Why can't I just put the psync command in cron?

I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu 
bar (on the right
hand side), you might try looking there...
It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator.  
But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it 
has done or what remains.

Joe.

I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a 
consortium of educational
users, you might take a look at that.

Jerry
On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running 
and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd 
playback).  I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it 
had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now 
it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it 
could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%

This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%

So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it 
has four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. 
File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not 
like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in 
times like this.

Joe.








Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Joel Rees
Hmmm, maybe it will work... I started the following shell script
#!/bin/sh
i=1
while true
do
echo $i
i=`expr $i + 1 `
done
I forced the system to sleep for a few seconds, woke it up and the
script kept on trucking...
While you always want to avoid doing things that push the limits of the 
system while you're backing it up, in theory, all the timing issues 
should be handled by the drivers before they allow the system to go to 
sleep. Or, if some hardware job is in progress when the system goes to 
sleep, the hardware should be waking the system up to finish the 
process.

So it _should_ keep on trucking. If it doesn't, it's a system bug, and 
needs to be reported.

But risking dropping your backups to find Apple's bugs may or may not 
be what you want to do, and you can be sure that backups won't proceed 
while the system is asleep.

I think this question has come up before, but if there is an API for 
the Energy Saving settings (or whatever those are in English), I think 
I'd want to have my backup script set the system to not sleep while the 
backup was in progress, and then restore the setting when done. Until 
that part is working, I'd change the setting by hand, of course.

--
Joel Rees


Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-03 Thread Jerry LeVan
I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to 
psync
you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you installed
DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives
a command for copying an entire volume.

Let us know how it turns out...
Jerry
On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Jerry,
On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, 
subsequent invocations
just looks at differences...

I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the 
task is finished.
It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and 
adjusting permissions).
If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu.  Why 
can't I just put the psync command in cron?

I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu 
bar (on the right
hand side), you might try looking there...
It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator.  
But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it 
has done or what remains.

Joe.

I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a 
consortium of educational
users, you might take a look at that.

Jerry
On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running 
and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd 
playback).  I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had 
one. When I awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now it is 
still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be 
doing, preference panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%

This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%

So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it 
has four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File 
sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not like 
the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like 
this.

Joe.






Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-02 Thread Joseph Alotta
Jerry,
On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote:
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, 
subsequent invocations
just looks at differences...

I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the 
task is finished.
It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and 
adjusting permissions).
If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu.  Why 
can't I just put the psync command in cron?

I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar 
(on the right
hand side), you might try looking there...
It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator.  But 
all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it has 
done or what remains.

Joe.

I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a 
consortium of educational
users, you might take a look at that.

Jerry
On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and 
I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd 
playback).  I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had 
one. When I awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now it is 
still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be 
doing, preference panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%
This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact 
letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 
historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%

So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it has 
four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File 
sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not like 
the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like 
this.

Joe.





Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-01 Thread Jerry LeVan
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, 
subsequent invocations
just looks at differences...

I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the 
task is finished.
It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and 
adjusting permissions).

I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar 
(on the right
hand side), you might try looking there...

I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a 
consortium of educational
users, you might take a look at that.

Jerry
On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote:
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and 
I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd 
playback).  I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had 
one. When I awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now it is 
still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be 
doing, preference panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%
This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold 
brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%

So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it has 
four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 
4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not like the fact 
it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this.

Joe.




Re: backing up using DejaVu

2004-05-01 Thread Joseph Alotta
Greetings,
Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last 
night.  It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I 
went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback).  
I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I 
awoke this morning it was finished.  However, now it is still using 94% 
of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference 
panel says it is disabled.

Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all 
there, the file sizes are different.

This is the original:

[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 256
drwx--12 josephal  staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x37 josephal  staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rwx-- 1 josephal  staff   21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal  staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   334 josephal  staff   11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   130 josephal  staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   142 josephal  staff4828  1 Mar 15:09 contact letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  staff  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4080 josephal  staff  138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   123 josephal  staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x30 josephal  staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure
[Abba:~/Desktop] josephal%
This is the copy:
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la
total 208
drwx--11 josephal  unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 .
drwxr-xr-x36 josephal  unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown   0  2 Oct  2002 .localized
drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal  unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu
drwxr-xr-x   333 josephal  unknown   11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box
drwxr-xr-x   129 josephal  unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts
drwxrwxrwx   141 josephal  unknown4794  1 Mar 15:09 contact letters
-rw-r--r-- 1 josephal  unknown  102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf
drwxr-xr-x  4079 josephal  unknown  138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data
drwxr-xr-x   122 josephal  unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports
drwxr-xr-x29 josephal  unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure
[Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal%
So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back.  What do you 
think?  Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta?  Seems it has 
four strikes against it:  1.  Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 
4. high CPU usage while doing nothing.  Also, I do not like the fact it 
is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this.

Joe.