Re: backing up using DejaVu
On May 3, 2004, at 11:17 PM, Ken Williams wrote: Oh, certainly - you can interrupt basically anything at all on the computer with sleep, and it will simply continue where it left off. I do this all the time with compilations, long-running scientific experiments, regression tests, etc. on my PowerBook. The wake-from-sleep functionality is very robust and fast. The only trouble you're likely to see is when an external resource (like a network or a printer) doesn't like you pausing in the middle of something you're doing to it, and then some operations involving that resource might not just continue where you left off. -Ken Thanks, Ken, Yes, I have had some trouble with my printer when the powerbook gets sleepy. One time it just kept printing one character on a page and used up all the paper. But the disk drive is a local firewire drive, so it should be okay. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
On May 3, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Hi Jerry, I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup" and it worked real nice. I kind of like watching it work while I do other things. If my powerbook were to sleep in the middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where it left off? I think it depends how /Volumes/backup is mounted. If it's a local drive connected by USB or Firewire or whatever, everything should be fine. If it's a remote drive, it might not be happy. -Ken
Re: backing up using DejaVu
On May 3, 2004, at 6:37 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote: Hmmm, maybe it will work... I started the following shell script #!/bin/sh i=1 while true do echo $i i=`expr $i + 1 ` done I forced the system to sleep for a few seconds, woke it up and the script kept on trucking... Oh, certainly - you can interrupt basically anything at all on the computer with sleep, and it will simply continue where it left off. I do this all the time with compilations, long-running scientific experiments, regression tests, etc. on my PowerBook. The wake-from-sleep functionality is very robust and fast. The only trouble you're likely to see is when an external resource (like a network or a printer) doesn't like you pausing in the middle of something you're doing to it, and then some operations involving that resource might not just continue where you left off. -Ken
Re: backing up using DejaVu
I think this question has come up before, but if there is an API for the Energy Saving settings (or whatever those are in English), I think I'd want to have my backup script set the system to not sleep while the backup was in progress, and then restore the setting when done. Until that part is working, I'd change the setting by hand, of course. Joel Rees Thanks Joel. I searched and found some shareware that puts enhanced controls into your menu bar including Energy Savings. Whoever wrote it had to use the API, so there must be one. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
Hi Jerry, I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup" and it worked real nice. I kind of like watching it work while I do other things. If my powerbook were to sleep in the middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where it left off? Joe. On May 3, 2004, at 6:54 AM, Jerry LeVan wrote: I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to psync you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you installed DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives a command for copying an entire volume. Let us know how it turns out... Jerry On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Jerry, On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote: You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, subsequent invocations just looks at differences... I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the task is finished. It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and adjusting permissions). If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu. Why can't I just put the psync command in cron? I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar (on the right hand side), you might try looking there... It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator. But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it has done or what remains. Joe. I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a consortium of educational users, you might take a look at that. Jerry On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
Heh, Heh, I was hoping someone would answer that question, my totally uninformed guess is that something bad *could* happen...but I don't know... Let us know :) Jerry On May 3, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Hi Jerry, I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup" and it worked real nice. I kind of like watching it work while I do other things. If my powerbook were to sleep in the middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where it left off? Joe. On May 3, 2004, at 6:54 AM, Jerry LeVan wrote: I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to psync you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you installed DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives a command for copying an entire volume. Let us know how it turns out... Jerry On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Jerry, On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote: You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, subsequent invocations just looks at differences... I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the task is finished. It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and adjusting permissions). If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu. Why can't I just put the psync command in cron? I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar (on the right hand side), you might try looking there... It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator. But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it has done or what remains. Joe. I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a consortium of educational users, you might take a look at that. Jerry On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
Hmmm, maybe it will work... I started the following shell script #!/bin/sh i=1 while true do echo $i i=`expr $i + 1 ` done I forced the system to sleep for a few seconds, woke it up and the script kept on trucking... Jerry On May 3, 2004, at 5:18 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Hi Jerry, I used "sudo psync -d / /Volumes/backup" and it worked real nice. I kind of like watching it work while I do other things. If my powerbook were to sleep in the middle of it, would it break something or would it just pick up where it left off? Joe. On May 3, 2004, at 6:54 AM, Jerry LeVan wrote: I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to psync you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you installed DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives a command for copying an entire volume. Let us know how it turns out... Jerry On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Jerry, On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote: You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, subsequent invocations just looks at differences... I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the task is finished. It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and adjusting permissions). If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu. Why can't I just put the psync command in cron? I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar (on the right hand side), you might try looking there... It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator. But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it has done or what remains. Joe. I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a consortium of educational users, you might take a look at that. Jerry On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
Hmmm, maybe it will work... I started the following shell script #!/bin/sh i=1 while true do echo $i i=`expr $i + 1 ` done I forced the system to sleep for a few seconds, woke it up and the script kept on trucking... While you always want to avoid doing things that push the limits of the system while you're backing it up, in theory, all the timing issues should be handled by the drivers before they allow the system to go to sleep. Or, if some hardware job is in progress when the system goes to sleep, the hardware should be waking the system up to finish the process. So it _should_ keep on trucking. If it doesn't, it's a system bug, and needs to be reported. But risking dropping your backups to find Apple's bugs may or may not be what you want to do, and you can be sure that backups won't proceed while the system is asleep. I think this question has come up before, but if there is an API for the Energy Saving settings (or whatever those are in English), I think I'd want to have my backup script set the system to not sleep while the backup was in progress, and then restore the setting when done. Until that part is working, I'd change the setting by hand, of course. -- Joel Rees
Re: backing up using DejaVu
I can't think of any reason why not :), If you examine the source to psync you will find the documentation embedded near the end. If you installed DejaVu, look in /usr/local/bin for psync. I think the help even gives a command for copying an entire volume. Let us know how it turns out... Jerry On May 2, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Jerry, On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote: You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, subsequent invocations just looks at differences... I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the task is finished. It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and adjusting permissions). If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu. Why can't I just put the psync command in cron? I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar (on the right hand side), you might try looking there... It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator. But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it has done or what remains. Joe. I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a consortium of educational users, you might take a look at that. Jerry On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
Jerry, On May 1, 2004, at 2:58 PM, Jerry LeVan wrote: You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, subsequent invocations just looks at differences... I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the task is finished. It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and adjusting permissions). If DejaVu calls psync to do the work, then why do I need DejaVu. Why can't I just put the psync command in cron? I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar (on the right hand side), you might try looking there... It puts a horseshoe shaped logo up by the battery level indicator. But all it says is "backup in progess" no indication of how much it has done or what remains. Joe. I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a consortium of educational users, you might take a look at that. Jerry On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
You might try one more time, the first time takes the longest, subsequent invocations just looks at differences... I can't think of any reason why the program is chewing cpu after the task is finished. It works by calling psync ( a perl program to do the copying and adjusting permissions). I believe that while it is running it might put a menu in the menu bar (on the right hand side), you might try looking there... I seems like I recall a program "RsyncX" that is put out by a consortium of educational users, you might take a look at that. Jerry On May 1, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Joseph Alotta wrote: Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.
Re: backing up using DejaVu
Greetings, Taking Jerry's recommendation, I downloaded DejaVu and ran it last night. It started about 10pm and at 12:30pm it was still running and I went to bed, (my energy savings preferences were set to dvd playback). I couldn't see any progress bar, although it said it had one. When I awoke this morning it was finished. However, now it is still using 94% of my cpu time and I don't know what it could be doing, preference panel says it is disabled. Also, I was looking at the files it wrote, and though they are all there, the file sizes are different. This is the original: [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 256 drwx--12 josephal staff 408 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x37 josephal staff1258 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rwx-- 1 josephal staff 21508 30 Apr 22:10 .DS_Store -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 7 josephal staff 238 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 334 josephal staff 11356 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 130 josephal staff4420 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 142 josephal staff4828 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal staff 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4080 josephal staff 138720 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 123 josephal staff4182 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x30 josephal staff1020 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:~/Desktop] josephal% This is the copy: [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% ls -la total 208 drwx--11 josephal unknown 374 30 Apr 22:10 . drwxr-xr-x36 josephal unknown1224 29 Apr 10:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 0 2 Oct 2002 .localized drwxr-xr-x 6 josephal unknown 204 30 Apr 22:10 DejaVu drwxr-xr-x 333 josephal unknown 11322 30 Apr 22:10 bankers box drwxr-xr-x 129 josephal unknown4386 29 Apr 11:44 charts drwxrwxrwx 141 josephal unknown4794 1 Mar 15:09 contact letters -rw-r--r-- 1 josephal unknown 102557 27 Apr 15:25 google.pdf drwxr-xr-x 4079 josephal unknown 138686 29 Apr 10:44 historical_data drwxr-xr-x 122 josephal unknown4148 29 Apr 10:46 reports drwxr-xr-x29 josephal unknown 986 12 Mar 17:30 trifold brochure [Abba:Users/josephalotta/Desktop] josephal% So, I guess I need to reboot to get my CPU time back. What do you think? Is DejaVu a tested product or is it alpha/beta? Seems it has four strikes against it: 1. Slow, 2. No progress Bar, 3. File sizes, 4. high CPU usage while doing nothing. Also, I do not like the fact it is a preference panel as I can't kill it, in times like this. Joe.