Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Michael Maibaum]

I think they are being a bit disingenuous on that page:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html#Java6-end-public-updates

Suggests Java 7 is updated until April 2015. I'd be surprised if this is
anything other than a short term situation. I've certainly not had any
particular problems with Java 7 on Yosemite.



On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Doug Barton  wrote:

> From https://www.java.com/en/download/mac_download.jsp?locale=en
>
>
> You are running Mac OS X 10.10, which is currently an unsupported platform
> for Java 7. Starting with Java 8 Update 20 (8u20), download and install
> Java 8 from oracle.com.
>
>
> On 10/22/14 3:54 AM, Michael Maibaum wrote:
>
>> eh? I've got java 7 u71 without any problem or unsupportedness from
>> java.com ?
>>
>
>
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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> Java 7 installed too on my computer under Yosemite.
> 
> But how did you install Java 6? The Java 6 installer doesn't even open…

Well, Minecraft gave me a “more info” button, I clicked on it and reached an 
Apple page, from which I downloaded the thing.

Jean-Christophe Helary 
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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[gbeurlen]

Citando Jean-Christophe Helary :

> I just installed Java 6 to run the Minecraft demo. It works well.
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary
>
>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 08:55, LuKreme  wrote:
>>
>> On 22 Oct 2014, at 17:49 , Michael  wrote:
>>> So if Java 7 is not supported in OS 10.10
>>
>> Well, it installed on my wife's machine under Yosemite.
> ___

Java 7 installed too on my computer under Yosemite.

But how did you install Java 6? The Java 6 installer doesn't even open...

Regards,

Beurlen
Rio de Janeiro Brazil

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

I just installed Java 6 to run the Minecraft demo. It works well.

Jean-Christophe Helary 

> On Oct 23, 2014, at 08:55, LuKreme  wrote:
> 
> On 22 Oct 2014, at 17:49 , Michael  wrote:
>> So if Java 7 is not supported in OS 10.10
> 
> Well, it installed on my wife's machine under Yosemite.
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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[LuKreme]

On 22 Oct 2014, at 17:49 , Michael  wrote:
> So if Java 7 is not supported in OS 10.10

Well, it installed on my wife's machine under Yosemite.

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Michael]

So if Java 7 is not supported in OS 10.10, what do I do if I have a java 
program that requires J6 or J7, and won't run in J8?

(A "minor" language change trips a bug; the bug is "harmless", along the order 
of a string "constant" being written to in old C programs prior to GCC 
enforcing the constant. )

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Arno Hautala]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Doug Barton  wrote:
>
> I know Oracle recommends quite emphatically to move away from Java 6 because
> of bugs and security holes, but is the OS X version better maintained?

It's my understanding that Apple isn't maintaining a version of Java
at all anymore. Note that the version linked in the technote is Java 6
and hasn't been updated since May.

I'd contact DavMail and Zipeg to find out why their apps require an
outdated version of Java.

I like what CrashPlan does now, where they include all the Java
resources they need within their app bundle.

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Doug Barton]

On 10/22/14 6:11 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Doug Barton  wrote:

On 10/19/14 6:07 PM, Doug Barton wrote:


To open "DavMail" you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime.

I understand what the message is telling me, but I'm curious if anyone
knows why, and if there is a way around it. I'd rather not install Java
6 anything if I can help it.


Was it a message from DavMail? Or from the OS?


From the OS. I get the same message when trying to use Zipeg. Some 
other Java apps work fine with Oracle's Java 8 though.


I know Oracle recommends quite emphatically to move away from Java 6 
because of bugs and security holes, but is the OS X version better 
maintained?


Doug

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Doug Barton]

From https://www.java.com/en/download/mac_download.jsp?locale=en


You are running Mac OS X 10.10, which is currently an unsupported 
platform for Java 7. Starting with Java 8 Update 20 (8u20), download and 
install Java 8 from oracle.com.



On 10/22/14 3:54 AM, Michael Maibaum wrote:

eh? I've got java 7 u71 without any problem or unsupportedness from
java.com ?


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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Arno Hautala]

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Doug Barton  wrote:
> On 10/19/14 6:07 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>>
>> To open "DavMail" you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime.
>>
>> I understand what the message is telling me, but I'm curious if anyone
>> knows why, and if there is a way around it. I'd rather not install Java
>> 6 anything if I can help it.

Was it a message from DavMail? Or from the OS? It may be indicating
some legacy behavior (re. bug) that the app relies on that has been
fixed in recent versions. It's also possible that DavMail was relying
on some advice I've seen online that indicates the only way to get
Java installed on Yosemite is to use the last version Apple provided.

http://www.appstorechronicle.com/install-java-osx-10-10-yosemite

The "recent update" they refer to is from May of this year and does
indeed provide Java 6.

> Turns out that Oracle Java 7 is no longer supported in Yosemite, you have to
> upgrade to Java 8. After doing so most of my stuff works now, but one
> important app does not.

7u71 should be fine, but there is also 8u25.
https://www.java.com/en/download/help/mac_10_10.xml

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Michael Maibaum]

eh? I've got java 7 u71 without any problem or unsupportedness from java.com
?



On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Doug Barton  wrote:

> On 10/19/14 6:07 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> I was using various Java apps without any problems on OS X Mavericks
>> (10.9.x) using just the Java 7 from Sun, err, Oracle.
>>
>> I upgraded to Yosemite (10.10) this weekend, and now I'm seeing an error
>> message I hadn't seen previously:
>>
>> To open "DavMail" you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime.
>>
>> I understand what the message is telling me, but I'm curious if anyone
>> knows why, and if there is a way around it. I'd rather not install Java
>> 6 anything if I can help it.
>>
>
> Turns out that Oracle Java 7 is no longer supported in Yosemite, you have
> to upgrade to Java 8. After doing so most of my stuff works now, but one
> important app does not.
>
>
> Doug
>
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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Doug Barton]

On 10/19/14 6:07 PM, Doug Barton wrote:

I was using various Java apps without any problems on OS X Mavericks
(10.9.x) using just the Java 7 from Sun, err, Oracle.

I upgraded to Yosemite (10.10) this weekend, and now I'm seeing an error
message I hadn't seen previously:

To open "DavMail" you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime.

I understand what the message is telling me, but I'm curious if anyone
knows why, and if there is a way around it. I'd rather not install Java
6 anything if I can help it.


Turns out that Oracle Java 7 is no longer supported in Yosemite, you 
have to upgrade to Java 8. After doing so most of my stuff works now, 
but one important app does not.


Doug


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