Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
This will work, but Migration Assistant is easier. 1. Make sure no account on new machine with same name. 2. Plug in TM drive and manually copy the home directory to /Users. 3. Create new user with right name and answer yes to the question about using the existing home directory. neil The three kinds of stress…nuclear, cooking and ahole. Jello is the key to the relationship. On Oct 15, 2014, at 19:20, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
You can use tmutil restore, from the command line, to restore files off of the drive. You will probably need to run it as root, and the files will have the same owner UID as before. So, a chown -R will probably be needed. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
Interesting, I was suggested that method by Apple support a few days ago to restore my son’s machine state, but I’m still waiting for the machine to come back from Apple. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:22, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
Hmm. Perhaps such a method would work if the new user account on the new machine not only has the same username but the same user id number as the old, ex. 401. I didn’t check that; maybe that is what TM is keying off of in order to associate the current user with its backups? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I was suggested that method by Apple support a few days ago to restore my son’s machine state, but I’m still waiting for the machine to come back from Apple. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:22, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
I always make sure that’s the case, as it eliminates a whole passel of extra grief that TM can throw at you. As for the “many incrementals” issue, remember the magic of hard links. Yes, an old file is dumped only once, but every “incremental” made since has a hard link to the original backup image of that file in the proper position in that folder, so it’s true that if you drag a folder from the latest incremental, you will get ALL the files as of that time. On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Hmm. Perhaps such a method would work if the new user account on the new machine not only has the same username but the same user id number as the old, ex. 401. I didn’t check that; maybe that is what TM is keying off of in order to associate the current user with its backups? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I was suggested that method by Apple support a few days ago to restore my son’s machine state, but I’m still waiting for the machine to come back from Apple. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:22, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
Yes, very good point! I had forgotten the whole “trick” about TM as Apple promoted it originally was that it used hard links, and thus saved tremendously on hard disk space. Certainly this is something I will try out! -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:36 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: I always make sure that’s the case, as it eliminates a whole passel of extra grief that TM can throw at you. As for the “many incrementals” issue, remember the magic of hard links. Yes, an old file is dumped only once, but every “incremental” made since has a hard link to the original backup image of that file in the proper position in that folder, so it’s true that if you drag a folder from the latest incremental, you will get ALL the files as of that time. On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Hmm. Perhaps such a method would work if the new user account on the new machine not only has the same username but the same user id number as the old, ex. 401. I didn’t check that; maybe that is what TM is keying off of in order to associate the current user with its backups? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I was suggested that method by Apple support a few days ago to restore my son’s machine state, but I’m still waiting for the machine to come back from Apple. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:22, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
How do you make sure the user id is the same ? Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:40, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yes, very good point! I had forgotten the whole “trick” about TM as Apple promoted it originally was that it used hard links, and thus saved tremendously on hard disk space. Certainly this is something I will try out! -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:36 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: I always make sure that’s the case, as it eliminates a whole passel of extra grief that TM can throw at you. As for the “many incrementals” issue, remember the magic of hard links. Yes, an old file is dumped only once, but every “incremental” made since has a hard link to the original backup image of that file in the proper position in that folder, so it’s true that if you drag a folder from the latest incremental, you will get ALL the files as of that time. On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Hmm. Perhaps such a method would work if the new user account on the new machine not only has the same username but the same user id number as the old, ex. 401. I didn’t check that; maybe that is what TM is keying off of in order to associate the current user with its backups? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I was suggested that method by Apple support a few days ago to restore my son’s machine state, but I’m still waiting for the machine to come back from Apple. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:22, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine
You can look at the user id that the system has assigned to your account with: ls -ln -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: How do you make sure the user id is the same ? Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:40, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yes, very good point! I had forgotten the whole “trick” about TM as Apple promoted it originally was that it used hard links, and thus saved tremendously on hard disk space. Certainly this is something I will try out! -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:36 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: I always make sure that’s the case, as it eliminates a whole passel of extra grief that TM can throw at you. As for the “many incrementals” issue, remember the magic of hard links. Yes, an old file is dumped only once, but every “incremental” made since has a hard link to the original backup image of that file in the proper position in that folder, so it’s true that if you drag a folder from the latest incremental, you will get ALL the files as of that time. On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Hmm. Perhaps such a method would work if the new user account on the new machine not only has the same username but the same user id number as the old, ex. 401. I didn’t check that; maybe that is what TM is keying off of in order to associate the current user with its backups? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I was suggested that method by Apple support a few days ago to restore my son’s machine state, but I’m still waiting for the machine to come back from Apple. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:22, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Actually I had tried to do that, but didn’t see how. The TM drive has many incrementals on it, so dragging my old user account folder from the TM drive to the new machine wouldn’t be valid, as there isn’t a comprehensive backup folder to drag. And entering into TM, it shows no backup history for my account. Did you mean by some other way? -Carl On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Or you can create a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account and drop the stuff that you want in a way that is more selective than Migration assistant does. Jean-Christophe Helary On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:01, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. Didn't remember having to do that before, but I'll give it a go. Thx! -Carl I think migration assistant is the trick you're looking for. On Oct 15, 2014, at 4:20 PM, newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: My iMac died, and I want to restore my user account onto a new machine from the Time Machine backup I have from the old machine. I don't see any way to do it. The new machine sees the TM drive, and will use it as a TM backup drive, but it doesn't present any way to restore from it. Even when entering Time Machine it shows nothing to restore although the drive is half full of TM backups. Is there a trick to doing this, or am I out of luck? -Carl ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
