Re: uninstall help please

2010-05-12 Thread John B Brown

Dear Ryan,

	The environment has been scrubbed along with the /opt/local tree. I'm 
using a GNU gcc-4.5.0 bootstrapped using the Xcode compiler. It was 
compiled after I removed all trace of /opt/local. There are two places 
where libintl resides on this box; /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib. Why the 
compiler is looking in /opt/local/lib, and why it is not seeing the ones 
that do exist...I'm at sea about that.


	I am now unable to reproduce the error. I used a different configure 
command, 'configure --disable-asm --disable-libtool-lock.' That 'solved' 
both the early asm fail problem and the library fail problem.


	Argh! I can no more explain that than a hole in the ground. Its not the 
first time. I've had problems with both libintl and libiconv being 
looked for in /opt/local/lib. I gave up those compiles because I don't 
know how to trace that problem.


On 5/11/10 10:08 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

On May 11, 2010, at 22:42, John B Brown wrote:


After following my own advice and the directions, I find I have a 
serious problem. In compiling programs that use libintl, the linker looks for 
libintl in /opt/local/lib and there is no such tree on my system. After the 
uninstall process I wiped that entire /opt/local tree.

How do I correct my system so the compiler no longer looks for anything 
under /opt/local?



Did you start trying to build this software when you had MacPorts installed? If so, it 
could be remembering those paths that it found back then. Try make clean to 
clear out that knowledge, then ./configure again.


	I downloaded and unpacked the files today. All trace of /opt/local has 
been scrubbed from my environment variables.



LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/opt/X11/lib:/opt/schily/lib:/usr/lib


 and


DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/opt/X11/lib:/opt/schily/lib:/usr/lib


and


PATH=/Users/jbb/bin:/opt/schily/bin:/opt/schily/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/X11/bin:/bin:/usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/etc:/usr/local/etc:/usr/etc:/home/jbb/bin/ORIG/.../F1/A:.




If that's not it, please show us the command you used to try to compile your program and the output you got.Some environment variables that would cause it to look there would 
include CFLAGS or CPPFLAGS containing -I/opt/local/include, LDFLAGS 
containing -L/opt/local/lib, C_INCLUDE_PATH containing 
/opt/local/include, or LIBRARY_PATH containing /opt/local/lib. Perhaps 
you have some of those set in your environment. But even if you did, 
that should just influence where software searches for things, and if 
there's nothing there, then it wouldn't find or attempt to use it there.









Shalom,

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Re: uninstall help please

2010-05-11 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 11, 2010, at 22:42, John B Brown wrote:

   After following my own advice and the directions, I find I have a 
 serious problem. In compiling programs that use libintl, the linker looks for 
 libintl in /opt/local/lib and there is no such tree on my system. After the 
 uninstall process I wiped that entire /opt/local tree.
 
   How do I correct my system so the compiler no longer looks for anything 
 under /opt/local?


Did you start trying to build this software when you had MacPorts installed? If 
so, it could be remembering those paths that it found back then. Try make 
clean to clear out that knowledge, then ./configure again.

If that's not it, please show us the command you used to try to compile your 
program and the output you got. Some environment variables that would cause it 
to look there would include CFLAGS or CPPFLAGS containing -I/opt/local/include, 
LDFLAGS containing -L/opt/local/lib, C_INCLUDE_PATH containing 
/opt/local/include, or LIBRARY_PATH containing /opt/local/lib. Perhaps you have 
some of those set in your environment. But even if you did, that should just 
influence where software searches for things, and if there's nothing there, 
then it wouldn't find or attempt to use it there.


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Re: uninstall help please

2010-05-02 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On May 1, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 Somewhat frequently I too get about 5 KB/sec (guess that's about 30 kb/sec) 
 from this server. Other times it's plenty fast. This has been going on for 
 awhile:
 
 http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2008-July/005596.html

It might be interesting to get a wireshark capture (or tcpdump) to try and 
troubleshoot this some and see if we can figure out what is going on (and if 
there's something that could be done to make it better).

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Re: uninstall help please

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Haneda
On May 2, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Daniel J. Luke wrote:

 On May 1, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 Somewhat frequently I too get about 5 KB/sec (guess that's about 30 kb/sec) 
 from this server. Other times it's plenty fast. This has been going on for 
 awhile:
 
 http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2008-July/005596.html
 
 It might be interesting to get a wireshark capture (or tcpdump) to try and 
 troubleshoot this some and see if we can figure out what is going on (and if 
 there's something that could be done to make it better).

I would be happy to do this, is there a particularly large file I can curl down 
while running a capture?  Also perhaps another hostname other than 
distfiles.macports.org so I can do a side by side comparison?

As it is now, I get really good download rates:

curl -O http://distfiles.macports.org/apache20/httpd-2.0.61.tar.bz2
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
 Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
100 4472k  100 4472k0 0  1415k  0  0:00:03  0:00:03 --:--:-- 1454k

$curl -O http://distfiles.macports.org/gimp2/gimp-2.6.8.tar.bz2
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
 Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
100 15.5M  100 15.5M0 0  1564k  0  0:00:10  0:00:10 --:--:-- 1641k

I also just ran mtr to for about 5 minutes, and 0% packet loss, which in all 
honesty, is unusual, almost all routes will have some packet loss over 5 
minutes.  Though I do have a very direct route going from Comcast right to 
level 3 and then hitting macosforge.org.

For those who get 5KB/s can you post your location, and run a trace from your 
location to distfiles.macports.org.  For what it is worth, I can get that route 
to barf on me by upping the packet size, but I also find that is pretty normal 
and consistent to any route.

How do we know this is not just a bandwidth issue? Ping is used to determine 
and choose the route, but that has nothing to do with network saturation on the 
actual box.  Perhaps there is simply a lot of activity on the machine, or 
network.  What are the specifications of the network this server is connected 
to?
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Re: uninstall help please

2010-05-01 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On May 1, 2010, at 00:43, Andrea D'Amore wrote:

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
 I don't think Mac OS Forge is imposing any transfer limits, and MacPorts is 
 small enough that even tripling the download size wouldn't matter.
 
 Interesting enough I have always got and still get about 30 kb/s from
 macosforge, this is particularly evident for XQuartz. I workaround
 proxying the file on a computer at uni, where it downloads at about
 350 kb/s. I always wondered if it was a routing issue of my ISP or
 what.

Somewhat frequently I too get about 5 KB/sec (guess that's about 30 kb/sec) 
from this server. Other times it's plenty fast. This has been going on for 
awhile:

http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2008-July/005596.html


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Re: uninstall help please

2010-05-01 Thread David Nicholls

Andrea D'Amore wrote:

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:

I don't think Mac OS Forge is imposing any transfer limits, and MacPorts is 
small enough that even tripling the download size wouldn't matter.


Interesting enough I have always got and still get about 30 kb/s from
macosforge, this is particularly evident for XQuartz. I workaround
proxying the file on a computer at uni, where it downloads at about
350 kb/s. I always wondered if it was a routing issue of my ISP or
what.



It may be a packet size problem on a router somewhere between you and 
macosforge.  Seems to slow things down a lot.  The most extreme version 
is the black hole router problem, where nothing gets through.


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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread Andrea D'Amore
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Scott Mc Laughlin mugl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can I delete it all and start again?

it the single library or it the whole macports installation?
IMHO you could as well reinstall the pkg again over the existing
macports installation.


 Thanks,
 Scott

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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread John B Brown

Dear Scott,

If you wish to uninstall macports and try over again here are 
directions.

http://guide.macports.org/chunked/installing.macports.uninstalling.html

Works for me.

On 4/30/10 11:27 AM, Scott Mc Laughlin wrote:

hi,

this is my first time using macports, I have poor skills and limited
experience with non drag'n'drop installations so hopefully this makes sense
to you. I'm on OSX 10.6.3

I installed macports then ran the selfupdate, I had to leave and I think the
computer went to sleep while the update was happening (it had been running
40mins before I had to leave). Now the port command is not functioning, nor
is the the uninstall command working. In both cases I get the errors below.
Can I delete it all and start again? (I'm trying to load libvorbis so that I
can use Icecast streaming).

Thanks,
Scott


scott-mc:~ scott$ sudo port -d selfupdate
Password:
dlopen(/opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib, 10): no
suitable image found.  Did find:
  /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib: no matching
architecture in universal wrapper
 while executing
load /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib
 (package ifneeded Pextlib 1.0 script)
 invoked from within
package require Pextlib 1.0
 (file /opt/local/bin/port line 40)




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Shalom,

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358 High Street,
Buffalo, Wyoming
82834

Freedom is not worth having if it does not include
the freedom to make mistakes  Mahatma Gandhi
If any question why we died, tell them,
because our fathers lied.  Rudyard Kipling
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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread Adam Mercer
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:27, Scott Mc Laughlin mugl...@gmail.com wrote:

 scott-mc:~ scott$ sudo port -d selfupdate
 Password:
 dlopen(/opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib, 10): no
 suitable image found.  Did find:
 /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib: no matching
 architecture in universal wrapper
     while executing
 load /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib
     (package ifneeded Pextlib 1.0 script)
     invoked from within
 package require Pextlib 1.0
     (file /opt/local/bin/port line 40)

Looks like you used the wrong installer for your platform. Make sure
you download the correct installer.

Cheers

Adam
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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread Scott Haneda
On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Adam Mercer wrote:

 Looks like you used the wrong installer for your platform. Make sure
 you download the correct installer.

Why is this possible? Is Apple's packagemaker tool used for creating the 
MacPorts installer?  My very limited experience in using it, I seem to recall 
you can set a target for what systems will or will not accept the installer.  
Would this not be a good change to make to the installer, making it impossible 
to install the wrong version on the wrong system?

Is it possible to make just one installer, an installer that is smart enough to 
know which bits to use depending on the platform you are trying to install on?  
It has always been a bit of a pain to locate the downloads page, figure out 
which one to install etc.  A very minor bit of a pain, but one that I am pretty 
sure could be solved.  This would bump up file size and download times, which 
may be the issue right there, if there is some limitation in bandwidth and how 
much it costs the project.

Is there any interest in this?  Should I perhaps open a ticket?
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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 30, 2010, at 17:04, Scott Haneda wrote:

 On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Adam Mercer wrote:
 
 Looks like you used the wrong installer for your platform. Make sure
 you download the correct installer.
 
 Why is this possible?

As of MacPorts 1.7.1, it's not:

http://trac.macports.org/ticket/13141

Still, something got corrupted with the user's pextlib and perhaps other parts, 
so reinstalling MacPorts base is still the best suggestion.


 Is it possible to make just one installer, an installer that is smart enough 
 to know which bits to use depending on the platform you are trying to install 
 on?  It has always been a bit of a pain to locate the downloads page, figure 
 out which one to install etc.  A very minor bit of a pain, but one that I am 
 pretty sure could be solved.

The disk images we distribute are created by MacPorts itself using sudo port 
dmg MacPorts; you can read the rest of the release process here:

http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/base/portmgr/ReleaseProcess

We would like to be able to directly distribute what MacPorts has produced and 
not have to fiddle with it afterward. Personally, I have always wanted for 
MacPorts to build itself using the lowest-supported Mac OS X SDK (so that would 
currently be MacOSX10.4u.sdk); the resulting MacPorts should theoretically run 
on all our supported OSes. I have not tested this though, and if you wanted to 
see if that actually worked, that would probably be worthwhile. I had problems 
using the 10.4u SDK from 10.6 when 10.6 first came out; I may have been doing 
something wrong or this may have been early problems with Xcode 3.0 or it may 
still be broken. But even if we have to run the packaging script on a 10.4 or 
10.5 machine that wouldn't be a problem; we already have to run the packaging 
script on several different machines, one for each dmg we currently produce.


 This would bump up file size and download times, which may be the issue right 
 there, if there is some limitation in bandwidth and how much it costs the 
 project.

I don't think Mac OS Forge is imposing any transfer limits, and MacPorts is 
small enough that even tripling the download size wouldn't matter.

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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread Joshua Root
On 2010-5-1 04:23 , Adam Mercer wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:27, Scott Mc Laughlin mugl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 scott-mc:~ scott$ sudo port -d selfupdate
 Password:
 dlopen(/opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib, 10): no
 suitable image found.  Did find:
 /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib: no matching
 architecture in universal wrapper
 while executing
 load /opt/local/share/macports/Tcl/pextlib1.0/Pextlib.dylib
 (package ifneeded Pextlib 1.0 script)
 invoked from within
 package require Pextlib 1.0
 (file /opt/local/bin/port line 40)
 
 Looks like you used the wrong installer for your platform. Make sure
 you download the correct installer.

Possible, but it must have been a really old version or the installer
would have complained. The correct download location for the latest
version of MacPorts is http://www.macports.org/install.php.

The other possibility is that the OS was upgraded, in which case these
steps need to be followed:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/Migration

- Josh
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Re: uninstall help please

2010-04-30 Thread Andrea D'Amore
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:
 I don't think Mac OS Forge is imposing any transfer limits, and MacPorts is 
 small enough that even tripling the download size wouldn't matter.

Interesting enough I have always got and still get about 30 kb/s from
macosforge, this is particularly evident for XQuartz. I workaround
proxying the file on a computer at uni, where it downloads at about
350 kb/s. I always wondered if it was a routing issue of my ISP or
what.

-- 
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