Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
Thanks, I figured that might be the case. Apple even seem to be shipping three different versions of Python this time around - and nobody wants to use them! Fundamentally, my problem is that I want to install a python library with easy_install and that is connected to the system Python. Furthermore, I frequently come up against scripts that start #!/usr/bin/python instead of, what we all know should be used, #!/usr/bin/env python Other than changing the scripts, or manually sudo changing /usr/bin/python, is there a solution to that problem? And, can somebody please advise on how to install easy_install? PS: I'm increasingly becoming more opposed to mailing lists - they require so much setup. Is this community also active on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/macports ? I find Stack Overflow to be a much more natural place for these sorts of QAs, with mailing lists being reserved for discussions (Google Groups is easily the most superior choice). -- Sam On 9 Aug 2012, at 00:09, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sam Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? No it is not, no this is not a bug, no it will not be fixed. This is also why there's no mechanism to select the system python (although it wouldn't be that difficult to add one, it's usually a bad idea). https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#ownlibs (and most of the questions around it) Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
Hi, PS: I'm increasingly becoming more opposed to mailing lists - they require so much setup. Is this community also active on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/macports ? I find Stack Overflow to be a much more natural place for these sorts of QAs, with mailing lists being reserved for discussions (Google Groups is easily the most superior choice). Personally, I'm the exact opposite. I dislike any web based discussion forums and much prefer mailing lists. Each to their own ... Chris -- Sam On 9 Aug 2012, at 00:09, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sam Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? No it is not, no this is not a bug, no it will not be fixed. This is also why there's no mechanism to select the system python (although it wouldn't be that difficult to add one, it's usually a bad idea). https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#ownlibs (and most of the questions around it) Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
Nevermind, fixed this by updating my PATH export PATH=/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/:$PATH -- Sam On 9 Aug 2012, at 09:09, Samuel Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I figured that might be the case. Apple even seem to be shipping three different versions of Python this time around - and nobody wants to use them! Fundamentally, my problem is that I want to install a python library with easy_install and that is connected to the system Python. Furthermore, I frequently come up against scripts that start #!/usr/bin/python instead of, what we all know should be used, #!/usr/bin/env python Other than changing the scripts, or manually sudo changing /usr/bin/python, is there a solution to that problem? And, can somebody please advise on how to install easy_install? PS: I'm increasingly becoming more opposed to mailing lists - they require so much setup. Is this community also active on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/macports ? I find Stack Overflow to be a much more natural place for these sorts of QAs, with mailing lists being reserved for discussions (Google Groups is easily the most superior choice). -- Sam On 9 Aug 2012, at 00:09, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sam Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? No it is not, no this is not a bug, no it will not be fixed. This is also why there's no mechanism to select the system python (although it wouldn't be that difficult to add one, it's usually a bad idea). https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#ownlibs (and most of the questions around it) Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Samuel Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.comwrote: Fundamentally, my problem is that I want to install a python library with easy_install and that is connected to the system Python. Furthermore, I frequently come up against scripts that start The py??-distribute ports install easy_install and friends for their respective Python ports. PS: I'm increasingly becoming more opposed to mailing lists - they require so much setup. Is this community also active on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/macports ? I find Stack Overflow to be a much more natural place for these sorts of QAs, with mailing lists being reserved for discussions (Google Groups is easily the most superior choice). There's occasional activity there but most of us actually prefer the mailing list. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Samuel Halliday wrote: Nevermind, fixed this by updating my PATH export PATH=/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/:$PATH I personally just have MacPort's python27 installed, use a variation of that $PATH use virtualenv for all things Python if I can. Clean, efficient if anything runs amok, easily detroyable. Cheers, Phil... - -- But masters, remember that I am an ass. Though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass. Wm. Shakespeare - Much Ado About Nothing -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: §auto-key-locate cert pka ldap hkp://keys.gnupg.net Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQI/qPAAoJEKuJdOaOnmMJCEsH/RN91/D7AVd+vQB8RGTHWxMF /vvzdvvhqYXGudOh45xGFaFlWVmaE+Q7fzNVne4VOc6Vsoy04CkKsynkgCUr9LF4 9GiNw95Jmas6iScBayWea6plBzPMQ+aAbwZiaG6e7fTQAolcbtrY3Kziks6FNtWt Z+MKAXgRByMWJPOeGJ/2qKZiPSxMo8NbW61fQ6E0KrnTpWZ1/dbZCdUwdgPqXS34 UKXBH7m8cXPg5afwmWxE7tj02ZynSn4pgk2QSO+BHfvLVFj3XQmDmio6Y2+nj/g9 S+5a/2CsjU6G9JU0E21oJplFmWVWDVS8mgxvkPPbQNAl7Bp+QWlKdmtct20QrJo= =3mbF -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
PS: I'm increasingly becoming more opposed to mailing lists - they require so much setup. Is this community also active on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/macports ? I find Stack Overflow to be a much more natural place for these sorts of QAs, with mailing lists being reserved for discussions (Google Groups is easily the most superior choice). I normally get answers here way quicker on the mailing list as all the experts are here. Asked a question on Stack Overflow as well, but got it answered through the mailing list in the end. -- Sam On 9 Aug 2012, at 00:09, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sam Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? No it is not, no this is not a bug, no it will not be fixed. This is also why there's no mechanism to select the system python (although it wouldn't be that difficult to add one, it's usually a bad idea). https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#ownlibs (and most of the questions around it) Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
Hi all, I really don't want to install macport's Python, because Mountain Lion already comes with Python. If I uninstall python27 (and all the ports that depend on it) and issue port select --list python I get Available versions for python: none (active) Does this mean I can't select the system python27? And if so, why is this? Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? PS: is it possible to be subscribed to this mailing list so that I can post via nabble, but without receiving *ANY* e-mails? Google Groups makes such a thing very easy. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-I-select-the-Mountain-Lion-Python-2.7--tp34274356p34274356.html Sent from the MacPorts - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sam Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? No it is not, no this is not a bug, no it will not be fixed. This is also why there's no mechanism to select the system python (although it wouldn't be that difficult to add one, it's usually a bad idea). https://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#ownlibs (and most of the questions around it) Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 04:01:52PM -0700, Sam Halliday wrote: I really don't want to install macport's Python, because Mountain Lion already comes with Python. If I uninstall python27 (and all the ports that depend on it) and issue port select --list python I get Available versions for python: none (active) Does this mean I can't select the system python27? And if so, why is this? Did you install the python_select port? It sohuld install a couple of files in /opt/local/etc/select/python that allow selecting the system python. However, this is useless, since you already have none selected and typing python in a terminal will fall back to the system python. Furthermore, is it possible to install subversion-python27bindings against the system Python 2.7? No, and it's not supported, and it won't be. PS: is it possible to be subscribed to this mailing list so that I can post via nabble, but without receiving *ANY* e-mails? Google Groups makes such a thing very easy. Since this is a mailman list, you can probably change your delivery settings using the usual mail interface or the web interface at http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-dev. On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 07:09:16PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. They finally did? -- Clemens Lang ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
On Aug 8, 2012, at 18:01, Sam Halliday wrote: PS: is it possible to be subscribed to this mailing list so that I can post via nabble, but without receiving *ANY* e-mails? Google Groups makes such a thing very easy. Yes, this is possible. Go the mailing list page: http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users Scroll down, enter your email address into the last text box, and click the Unsubscribe or edit options button. On the next page, enter your password and click the Log in button. If you've forgotten your password, click the Remind button to have it emailed to you. On the next page, scroll down to the heading Your macports-users Subscription Options. Setting whether mail delivery is enabled or disabled is the first option. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: Why can't I select the Mountain Lion Python 2.7?
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Clemens Lang c...@macports.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 07:09:16PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: Homebrew was the most recent attempt by someone to pretend that avoiding the system-installed stuff is just being stupid or whatever. It, like everyone else, has switched to installing and managing its own ecosystem. They finally did? Yes; it's taken them a while to realize that they really have to do it across the board and not just ok, that part we have to maintain, but surely *this* part will Just Work...! but they have finally figured out that there are in fact reasons that everyone else does it that way and they need to do so as well. It's like a rite of passage. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
