Re: Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked
Hi; So what is the proper way for X to be started? Do I need to manually create a launch entry like I have for the emacs server? If so, what is the invocation? What is being invoked? xorg-server? Now that the DISPLAY is null, invoking xpdf fails even after an open -a /Applications/MacPorts/X11.app, complaining about the DISPLAY variable setting. Thanks, Ken On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:47 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi Ryan; > > It was defined in ~/.zprofile and created by MacPorts in 2021 :-) I > commented it out. I'll source the .zprofile and see what happens. > > Thanks, > Ken > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:23 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > > On Nov 30, 2023, at 16:01, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > > > > > 3. My DISPLAY environment variable is set to ":0"; > > > I do not know where this variable is not being set properly or is > > > being overridden. > > > > You need to figure out where DISPLAY=:0 is being set, and remove the code > > that does so. It's probably in your shell startup file. Depending on which > > shell you use, there are many possible names for startup files in your home > > directory: .zshrc, .zprofile, .bashrc, .bash_profile, etc. > > > > Setting DISPLAY=:0 was correct in Mac OS X 10.4 and earlier but it has not > > been correct since Mac OS X 10.5.
Re: Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked
Hi Ryan; It was defined in ~/.zprofile and created by MacPorts in 2021 :-) I commented it out. I'll source the .zprofile and see what happens. Thanks, Ken On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:23 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Nov 30, 2023, at 16:01, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > > > 3. My DISPLAY environment variable is set to ":0"; > > I do not know where this variable is not being set properly or is > > being overridden. > > You need to figure out where DISPLAY=:0 is being set, and remove the code > that does so. It's probably in your shell startup file. Depending on which > shell you use, there are many possible names for startup files in your home > directory: .zshrc, .zprofile, .bashrc, .bash_profile, etc. > > Setting DISPLAY=:0 was correct in Mac OS X 10.4 and earlier but it has not > been correct since Mac OS X 10.5.
Re: Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked
On Nov 30, 2023, at 16:01, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > 3. My DISPLAY environment variable is set to ":0"; > I do not know where this variable is not being set properly or is > being overridden. You need to figure out where DISPLAY=:0 is being set, and remove the code that does so. It's probably in your shell startup file. Depending on which shell you use, there are many possible names for startup files in your home directory: .zshrc, .zprofile, .bashrc, .bash_profile, etc. Setting DISPLAY=:0 was correct in Mac OS X 10.4 and earlier but it has not been correct since Mac OS X 10.5.
Re: Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked
Hi Chris; Thank you for your response. 1. I manually use /Applications/MacPorts/X11.app (/usr/bin/open -a /Applications/MacPorts/X11.app when inside a script) when invoking an app (such as /opt/local/bin/xtern) which then fails: ~: which xterm /opt/local/bin/xterm ~: xterm & [1] 6134 [1] + exit 1 xterm ~: xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: :0 ~: open -a /Applications/MacPorts/X11.app ~: xterm & [1] 6423 ~: echo $DISPLAY :0 2. I uninstalled and re-installed xorg-server per your instructions. This did not solve the problem. 3. My DISPLAY environment variable is set to ":0"; I do not know where this variable is not being set properly or is being overridden. I do have an emacs server launch: ~/Library/LaunchAgents/gnu.emacs.daemon.plist Should I create something similar for X? If so, what app needs to do the work? org-server? Thanks, Ken Wolcott On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:55 AM Chris Jones wrote: > > Hi, > > 'Quartz' has nothing to do with X11, its the primary compositor used by > macOS itself to render graphics. > > I assume you are actually taking about the X11 server, which in MacPorts > is provided by the 'xorg-server' port and historically was provided by > the 'XQuartz' package. > > Some basic questions. > > 1. What installation of the X11 server are you using ? the MacPorts > provided one or something else ? > > 2. Regardless of your answer to 1., try (re)installing the MacPorts > provided one > > > sudo port uninstall xorg-server > > sudo port install xorg-server > > Then log out and back in again. This step is important as if you skip it > things do not work correctly. > > 3. Finally, in order for the automatic starting of the X11 server on > demand to work, you need your DISPLAY variable set correctly. It should > look something like > > $ echo $DISPLAY > /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.TwDg8TRtvI/org.macosforge.xquartz:0 > > i.e. it needs to refer to a launchd socket. If you see something else > instead you like are overriding this somewhere and you need to find and > remove this. > > Chris > > On 30/11/2023 5:30 am, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi; > > > > Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked > > > > The first time I had installed some ports that were dependent on > > Quartz I had difficulty getting them to start because Quartz was not > > running. > > > > The first solution was to manually invoke Quartz, which worked ok. > > > > I then was able to get Quartz to start via Launch when an X > > application was invoked. > > > > Recently (?) it stopped working and I'm not sure why. > > > > All research I've done so far has been fruitless, I'm just not asking > > the right questions... > > > > I'm back to manually starting Quartz. > > > > Please show me how to diagnose the problem and also to solve it. > > > > Thanks, > > Ken Wolcott
Re: net-snmp runtime problems on Sonoma
On Nov 27, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > I thought I'd ping the list before digging more into this, but on one Sonoma > (14.1.1) host that I monitor via snmp, MacPorts (and apple's) snmpd (from > net-snmp) seems to get stuck using 100% of one cpu core when I walk the host > (or query some stuff from HOST-RESOURCES, probably .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.3 or > .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.4). > > If I run under lldb and catch it in time (or if I sample it) I see it's stuck > in vm_region_64 (called from pages_swapped)... It's only happening on one > host I'm monitoring, though. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this? For the list archives - this appears to have fixed itself with no intervention from me - which makes me suspect that I've got some hardware that is on its way out. -- Daniel J. Luke
Re: Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked
Hi, 'Quartz' has nothing to do with X11, its the primary compositor used by macOS itself to render graphics. I assume you are actually taking about the X11 server, which in MacPorts is provided by the 'xorg-server' port and historically was provided by the 'XQuartz' package. Some basic questions. 1. What installation of the X11 server are you using ? the MacPorts provided one or something else ? 2. Regardless of your answer to 1., try (re)installing the MacPorts provided one > sudo port uninstall xorg-server > sudo port install xorg-server Then log out and back in again. This step is important as if you skip it things do not work correctly. 3. Finally, in order for the automatic starting of the X11 server on demand to work, you need your DISPLAY variable set correctly. It should look something like $ echo $DISPLAY /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.TwDg8TRtvI/org.macosforge.xquartz:0 i.e. it needs to refer to a launchd socket. If you see something else instead you like are overriding this somewhere and you need to find and remove this. Chris On 30/11/2023 5:30 am, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: Hi; Quartz no longer launching when an X application is invoked The first time I had installed some ports that were dependent on Quartz I had difficulty getting them to start because Quartz was not running. The first solution was to manually invoke Quartz, which worked ok. I then was able to get Quartz to start via Launch when an X application was invoked. Recently (?) it stopped working and I'm not sure why. All research I've done so far has been fruitless, I'm just not asking the right questions... I'm back to manually starting Quartz. Please show me how to diagnose the problem and also to solve it. Thanks, Ken Wolcott
