Re: MacBook Pro
Hello Ben, I can only speak from experience, but my laptops tend to remain plugged in for most of the time and my husband's laptops are used on battery for more than half of the time. My batteries last much longer than his. We both only have Apple computers. However, my husband is a teacher and his students all have laptops, most of them PCs, and their batteries are often much less robust than the ones in Apple computers. Although Apple doesn't make its own batteries, it has very exacting standards. Cheers, Anne On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:47 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: I'm not overly sure this is true... Keeping an Apple laptop plugged in does not damage the battery. Cheers, Anne I should state outright at first that I don't own a mb or a mbp but I have plenty of pc laptops. Whilst apple are neally always first with new features, I find it hard to beleave that no other computer has this feature because after all, its not like apple make there own batteries anyway. On 06/07/2009, Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net wrote: Well there are two MacBooks. The Macbook is 13-inch and the polycarbon or whatever that material is and that one as far as I know still has the battery pack as the older machines have and the Pro is either 13 or 15 inch and they only offer the internal battery that provides the 7 hours of running time. On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Lists: I don't think people realize, but the Macbook 13 inch is now replaced by the 13 inch Macbook Pro. It is the same thing and for the same price as the one it replaces. It is the best bet for durability, battery and other things. Reagards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 6:59 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an Apple laptop so that I can have some portability. Thanks James -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Macbook
Hi Alex, Hmm. I can only find the MacBook White Carbonate or something. Thanks James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Macbook Hi, James, The Macbook Aluminum I meant and the Macbook Pro 13 are the same. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 1:12 PM, James Nash wrote: I don't think it is Alex. They are both on the Apple UK online store and the MacBook Pro is 900 GBP The MacBook 13 inch is 750 GBP. James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro Hi, Lists: I don't think people realize, but the Macbook 13 inch is now replaced by the 13 inch Macbook Pro. It is the same thing and for the same price as the one it replaces. It is the best bet for durability, battery and other things. Reagards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 6:59 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an Apple laptop so that I can have some portability. Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Screen curtain does not turn the screen off. If you turn the brightness down as far as it will go, that will help save your battery, but I do not believe you can turn the screen off entirely-in other words cut power to it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:38 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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has Spaces been fixed yet?
Hi everyone, As i said, I am considering buying a new Mac and I was wondering if the old issue with Spaces has been fixed yet. For those of you who don't know - if you are new for example, Spaces creates a number of virtual desktops as in Linux. However, when I last used Spaces, I had access to every application when I used Command Tab which is not how Spaces should work in my opinion. Pressing Command Tab on one of your desktops should only show you the applications that are availible on that particular desktop. I hope some one can advise on this Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Macbook
Hi, The Macbook Aluminum was replaced by the Macbook Pro 13 inch. That was my point. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 2:30 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi Alex, Hmm. I can only find the MacBook White Carbonate or something. Thanks James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Macbook Hi, James, The Macbook Aluminum I meant and the Macbook Pro 13 are the same. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 1:12 PM, James Nash wrote: I don't think it is Alex. They are both on the Apple UK online store and the MacBook Pro is 900 GBP The MacBook 13 inch is 750 GBP. James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro Hi, Lists: I don't think people realize, but the Macbook 13 inch is now replaced by the 13 inch Macbook Pro. It is the same thing and for the same price as the one it replaces. It is the best bet for durability, battery and other things. Reagards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 6:59 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an Apple laptop so that I can have some portability. Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: has Spaces been fixed yet?
HI, That i an oppnion and valid for that reason. However, it was designed otherwise. The short answer is no, it is not fixed, but as always, E- mail accessibil...@apple.com with your ideas. I agree with your views. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 5:16 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, As i said, I am considering buying a new Mac and I was wondering if the old issue with Spaces has been fixed yet. For those of you who don't know - if you are new for example, Spaces creates a number of virtual desktops as in Linux. However, when I last used Spaces, I had access to every application when I used Command Tab which is not how Spaces should work in my opinion. Pressing Command Tab on one of your desktops should only show you the applications that are availible on that particular desktop. I hope some one can advise on this Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Cool thanks Alex James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, 0% is off completely. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 6:04 AM, Scott Howell wrote: James, why is that a shame? Surely you recognize that turning off the screen would generally not make a lot of sense. These aren't machines designed exclusively for the blind, so turning off the screen would only benefit those of us who would not typically use the screen. It just isn't one of those features Apple or any other computer manufacturer would really consider. You have the option to turn the screen brightness down to the point where no one could read it and that alone would help conserve battery life. However, to say it is a shame seems a little odd when you consider the larger scope here. I am not sure what purpose this feature would serve even on a lInux machine, but maybe there is something I'm missing here beyond the possible extension of battery life. On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:43 AM, James Nash wrote: Thanks Scott, That is a real shame I think. Take care James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Screen curtain does not turn the screen off. If you turn the brightness down as far as it will go, that will help save your battery, but I do not believe you can turn the screen off entirely-in other words cut power to it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:38 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Macbook
Ah it's quite a bit more expensive though isn't it? Take care James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Macbook Hi, The Macbook Aluminum was replaced by the Macbook Pro 13 inch. That was my point. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 2:30 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi Alex, Hmm. I can only find the MacBook White Carbonate or something. Thanks James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Macbook Hi, James, The Macbook Aluminum I meant and the Macbook Pro 13 are the same. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 1:12 PM, James Nash wrote: I don't think it is Alex. They are both on the Apple UK online store and the MacBook Pro is 900 GBP The MacBook 13 inch is 750 GBP. James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro Hi, Lists: I don't think people realize, but the Macbook 13 inch is now replaced by the 13 inch Macbook Pro. It is the same thing and for the same price as the one it replaces. It is the best bet for durability, battery and other things. Reagards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 6:59 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an Apple laptop so that I can have some portability. Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: has Spaces been fixed yet?
Thanks Alex, I should have thought of that lol. i guess that's what you get for missing the Mac lol Take care James - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: Re: has Spaces been fixed yet? HI, That i an oppnion and valid for that reason. However, it was designed otherwise. The short answer is no, it is not fixed, but as always, E- mail accessibil...@apple.com with your ideas. I agree with your views. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 5:16 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, As i said, I am considering buying a new Mac and I was wondering if the old issue with Spaces has been fixed yet. For those of you who don't know - if you are new for example, Spaces creates a number of virtual desktops as in Linux. However, when I last used Spaces, I had access to every application when I used Command Tab which is not how Spaces should work in my opinion. Pressing Command Tab on one of your desktops should only show you the applications that are availible on that particular desktop. I hope some one can advise on this Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: starting a new social list
Hi, All, The social Apple blind mailing list is located at: http://groups.google.com/group/apple-socialize?msg=newlnk=gcis Olivia, If you wish to assist moderating, I'd be greatful. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 8:46 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: I don't think firefox works with VO at this point. Please correct me if I am wrong! Olivia On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Olivia, Do you have firefox on your mac? If so, use webvism, it's a plugin that will solve the image for you, and paste it in your clipboard. -Original Message- From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:34 AM To: viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting a new social list Ah OK. I can do that if people prefer. I was just going with google because this list is through google as is the mac visionaries one. On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, Why not use http://www.freelists.org they don't use the picture thing. Dan On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, So that this list can stay on topic I am starting a new list for us to socialize. As soon as I can get sighted assistance with the image to create the group I will do so. The email address will be: viphone-soc...@googlegroups.com I will let you all know as soon as the group is up and running! :) Olivia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: starting a new social list
Can you send a subscribe by email link? Thanks, Jane -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:56 AM To: viph...@googlegroups.com Cc: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: starting a new social list Hi, All, The social Apple blind mailing list is located at: http://groups.google.com/group/apple-socialize?msg=newlnk=gcis Olivia, If you wish to assist moderating, I'd be greatful. Regards, Alex, On 6-Jul-09, at 8:46 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: I don't think firefox works with VO at this point. Please correct me if I am wrong! Olivia On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Olivia, Do you have firefox on your mac? If so, use webvism, it's a plugin that will solve the image for you, and paste it in your clipboard. -Original Message- From: viph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:34 AM To: viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: starting a new social list Ah OK. I can do that if people prefer. I was just going with google because this list is through google as is the mac visionaries one. On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, Why not use http://www.freelists.org they don't use the picture thing. Dan On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, So that this list can stay on topic I am starting a new list for us to socialize. As soon as I can get sighted assistance with the image to create the group I will do so. The email address will be: viphone-soc...@googlegroups.com I will let you all know as soon as the group is up and running! :) Olivia Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Dimming the screen down will at least completely turn off the illumination, a far cry fromm what most computers will let you do. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:43 AM, James Nash wrote: Thanks Scott, That is a real shame I think. Take care James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Screen curtain does not turn the screen off. If you turn the brightness down as far as it will go, that will help save your battery, but I do not believe you can turn the screen off entirely- in other words cut power to it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:38 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Yes it turns off the backlighth completely, but the pixels are still showing your desktop, making it discernable if for example you are sitting out in the sun. On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:40 AM, James Nash wrote: No I don't think you are Scott. However, I did read someone that turning down the screen brightness to zero actually turns off the backlight on the screen - effectively turning it off. I just wondered if this was possible as I have no need for a screen bu from waht I remember turning down the screen brightness increased batery life dramatically. Thanks James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? James, why is that a shame? Surely you recognize that turning off the screen would generally not make a lot of sense. These aren't machines designed exclusively for the blind, so turning off the screen would only benefit those of us who would not typically use the screen. It just isn't one of those features Apple or any other computer manufacturer would really consider. You have the option to turn the screen brightness down to the point where no one could read it and that alone would help conserve battery life. However, to say it is a shame seems a little odd when you consider the larger scope here. I am not sure what purpose this feature would serve even on a lInux machine, but maybe there is something I'm missing here beyond the possible extension of battery life. On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:43 AM, James Nash wrote: Thanks Scott, That is a real shame I think. Take care James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Screen curtain does not turn the screen off. If you turn the brightness down as far as it will go, that will help save your battery, but I do not believe you can turn the screen off entirely- in other words cut power to it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:38 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Of course don't forget you can turn off the backlight for the keyboard on the MacBook Pro as well. There is an option in System Preferences under Keyboard for this and it is to disable keyboard backlight. Illuminate keyboard in low light conditions and unchecking as far as I know will disable this feature. On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Justin Harford wrote: Dimming the screen down will at least completely turn off the illumination, a far cry fromm what most computers will let you do. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:43 AM, James Nash wrote: Thanks Scott, That is a real shame I think. Take care James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Screen curtain does not turn the screen off. If you turn the brightness down as far as it will go, that will help save your battery, but I do not believe you can turn the screen off entirely- in other words cut power to it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:38 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
any telnet client compatible with voiceOver?
Hello, does anybody know a telnet client compatible with voiceOver? I need a telnet client with ansi suport and VT100 thanks and regards Jonathan Chacón --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Turning off MacBook screens?
Not to mention these options are wonderful if you are a partial with light sensative eyes. Before I got my Macbook Pro, if I had a headache, I couldn't do homework because all my homework was on my gateway, and the bright screen of my gateway would make my headaches worse. When I got my macbook pro, I could work even when I had a headache. I even had instances where I shook off my head pains after a couple hours of writing up estronomy problem sets etc. Justin On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Of course don't forget you can turn off the backlight for the keyboard on the MacBook Pro as well. There is an option in System Preferences under Keyboard for this and it is to disable keyboard backlight. Illuminate keyboard in low light conditions and unchecking as far as I know will disable this feature. On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Justin Harford wrote: Dimming the screen down will at least completely turn off the illumination, a far cry fromm what most computers will let you do. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:43 AM, James Nash wrote: Thanks Scott, That is a real shame I think. Take care James - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Screen curtain does not turn the screen off. If you turn the brightness down as far as it will go, that will help save your battery, but I do not believe you can turn the screen off entirely- in other words cut power to it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:38 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi, Am I corect in thinking that the Linux commandline options will work under Mac OS X? If so, if I could find out how to write shell scripts or whatever they are called do you think they would work under Mac OS X? Also, do the Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain options actually turn the screen off? Take care james - Original Message - From: Alex Jurgensen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: any telnet client compatible with voiceOver?
Telnet from within Terminal? Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: any telnet client compatible with voiceOver?
El 06/07/2009, a las 19:39, Mark Baxter escribió: Telnet from within Terminal? but telnet from terminal hasn't got unicode support sorry, when I said ansi support I wanted to say unicode support regards Jonathan Chacón --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: Accounts not available in login window or accounts system preferences.
Folks, someone had asked about a user account issue and I thought I'd share this article with everyone. It could prove useful at some point, but of course the hope is you never need it. Begin forwarded message: Date: July 2, 2009 12:20:37 PM EDT Subject: Accounts not available in login window or accounts system preferences. Source: MacFixIt OS X user accounts have a variety of attributes that determine how the account behaves. For instance, the user and group ID numbers, and paths to the home folder directory are ways the system determines what permissions the account has, and where to store personal information such as account-specific system settings. Read more… --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question about mobile me and syncing
On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Matthew, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:35 PM, matthew T dyer wrote: You asked: I have .me account for trial and though everything syncrinized without a problem. I do nopot see the contacts in my address book nore to I see my bookmarks that I have set to sync. is there anything I need to do to get it to work with out a problem. TK: Are you syncing with another Mac or simply syncing your Contacts from your Mac with the Contact list on Mobile Me? I first syncrinized my contacts from outlook on my pc. I do see them on my mobile me contact list. I then set my mac to sync from my online contact list. When you sync one Mac under Mobile Me and then sync another, both will have the same Contacts/Bookmarks/whatever that you have set to sync as well as the Contact list on the www.me.com Contact list. I'm not positive, but if you are doing everything as outlined here, it may be that all syncing is not available during the trial period. This may be possible. I hoping someone will clearify on that one. I did not reallty see any limitations. I did see the too contacts that were already on my mac. Matthew Later... Tim Kilburn Carter the Canine Fort McMurray, AB Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
Hello James, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: JN Hi everyone, JN I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. Where di you read this please ? Regards, -- Claude Renaud --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
skype : adding new contacts
hi all, how can I see and accept or reject new people that adds me to their contactlist? I see no popups or something like this thanx alot, best regards, William Windels --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is the only line that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in April of 08 and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been waiting for SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of macbook? Oh I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't have that fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do whatever is doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta run. thanks for any answers best wishes Jenny On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud cldren...@gmail.com wrote: Hello James, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: JN Hi everyone, JN I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. Where di you read this please ? Regards, -- Claude Renaud --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
Hi, Snow Leopard will work quite nicely on any Intel Mac, including any MacBook, white or Al. And, how quickly we forget. The most powerful Macs out there are the desktop MacPros that don't have the little trackpad thingy. So yes, VO will work via the old stand by, tethered technology of the keyboard and mouse. Fret not; it's my G5 tower that will not be happy when the snow arrives. Best, Scott Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is the only line that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in April of 08 and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been waiting for SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of macbook? Oh I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't have that fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do whatever is doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta run. thanks for any answers best wishes Jenny On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud cldren...@gmail.com wrote: Hello James, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: JN Hi everyone, JN I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. Where di you read this please ? Regards, -- Claude Renaud -- --Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting multiples with VO
The annoying thing about selecting multiple items in Leopard currently is that when you shift up and down arrow, it says, 2 rows selected, 3 rows selected, etc. It's really annoying as it doesn't read what you are selecting, even when you've interacted with the table. If anyone knows of another way to accomplish this, I'd love to know, as I have found this to be quite annoying n both tiger and leopard. On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:31 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi everyone, When I was last using VO with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, it seemed that VO did not select multiple items such as E Mails when using shift up and down arrow. It was quite difficult therefore to know what was selected and so I endedup deleting mail by mail. Has this changed or will this change under Snow Leopard. Thank you Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A little bummed I don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the iPhone demos and gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just put up with old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and will be happy to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new macbook happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll wait. Who know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook they'll of come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off but. It sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have always liked the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of Alex, with the breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex voice does that. Jenny On 7/6/09, Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net wrote: Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the multi-touch trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember the aluminum models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes SL will work fine on your model. The most significant requirement is it must be an Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found in the G4/G5 machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you have at least 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, which are issued from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue currently with VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO and it is hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and VO. The point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can get an idea of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination might lead you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the future. So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well worth it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is the only line that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in April of 08 and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been waiting for SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of macbook? Oh I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't have that fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do whatever is doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta run. thanks for any answers best wishes Jenny On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud cldren...@gmail.com wrote: Hello James, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: JN Hi everyone, JN I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. Where di you read this please ? Regards, -- Claude Renaud --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
how to add new folders in newsgator?
Hello, I'm trying netnewswire in my iPhone and I'm configuring my account in newsgator.com but I don't know how can I add new folders to my account to short my feeds. thanks and regards Jonathan Chacón --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Adium annoyances.
Hey folks. Not sure what the deal is here, but I am having problems reading messages in Adium. I have been toggling the message window type from Gone Dark to Minimal mod and sometimes I can see all the messages in a conversation, but sometimes I can't. It's real hit or miss. It's as if the window isn't scrolling down or moving to accommodate the newly populating messages at the bottom of the window. If anyone can help me with any settings that I'm missing, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much. Reeves --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
