Re: Problems with Youtube
Well, I just got the confirmation that the video was uploaded and it did the same thing as always. So mobile won't work. This is so frustrating! On 11/4/09, Eleni Vamvakari wrote: > Okay, I'm really really hoping someone could help me cause I'm sick to > death of this. I haven't been able to use my netbook in awhile so am > stuck using the Mac for most things and going upstairs to the Windows > machine for the rest. One of the things that the Mac can do that > Windows can't is allow me to upload videos. But every time I make one > with Photobooth on the Mac, there's a 95% chance that youtube will cut > it off. The length and size of the videos are fine, so I don't know > why it keeps doing this. But even when I delete a video and then > reupload it, the same thing happens and it stops at the same spot > where it originally did on that particular video. Each time is > different. Sometimes, it stops at 10 seconds, sometimes 21, sometimes > 38 etc. The rest of the time, it uploads them correctly. I never > have this problem with the videos that I make on the Windows > machine which I then have to port onto the Mac to upload. So how can > I get it to stop doing that? Do I need to convert them from mov to > something else? If so, how do I do that or what program (that's easy > to use) can make videos in a more compatible format like mp4 or > something so that I don't have to deal with this? I tried e-mailing > my video from the Mac using the mobile option but it didn't work or at > least, it didn't show up yet. While I'm at it, has anyone else > noticed that it's completely > impossible to edit your profile now? I had to get sighted assistance > to do it. Also, does anyone know how I can change the address used on > there from my old gmail one to my new gmail one? It sens me to some > kind of Google page but Safari can't read or do anything with it. > Maybe, I should just look for a more accessible video site, but it > would be a real shame to have to lose my youtube subscribers. > > Thanks, > Eleni > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ftp server
Hello. Mac OS has a built-in FTP server. You should be able to enable it by doing the following: 1. Go to System Preferences. 2. Once you are in System Preferences, go into "sharing." 3. Interact with the services table. 4. Arrow through the list of services until you get to file sharing, then check that service. 5. Stop interacting with the services table, then use your usual VoiceOver navigation to get to the "options" button. 6. Check the checkbox to share files using FTP. After that, you should be able to log into the FTP server using your regular username and password. I hope that was enough instruction. On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:21 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hi Everyone, I guess everyone has noticed by now that I am for the > first time using my mac full time because my winbdows pc has totally > crashed. My brother wants to buy it but only in januari, i dont want > to go through all the hassle of reinstalling windows xp in the > meantime. In a few weeks i will get a new broadband connection 4mbit > upload 50mbit download so I guess i will get a usenet account at that > time. But, is it possible to set up an ftp server on the mac? I would > like for people to be able to upload files tome and for me to place > stuff on my server for other people. Are there any options for sl I > know transmit is only a client... > Thanks a lot for all the help and info folks! > Greetings, Anouk,Î > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Trouble with Keyboard focus in Fusion 3
Hey, I was wondering if anyone else is having some trouble with getting keyboard focus in Fusion 3? I am doing all of the things that were previously mentioned and am getting very inconsistent results. I've tried the Command + G, and have turned of Voice Over, all to no real effect. After a while of messing around, I eventually get some feedback from Jaws in Fusion, but I can never figure out what to do. If anyone else is having any similar issues or has figured out what to do, I'd really love to hear about it. Thanks Justin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ivox is not recognized by the rockbox utility
Yep, subject says it all. I just installed ivox 2, and rockbox won't see it. Crap I'd love to stick ryan or heather onto my sansa. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Problems with Youtube
Okay, I'm really really hoping someone could help me cause I'm sick to death of this. I haven't been able to use my netbook in awhile so am stuck using the Mac for most things and going upstairs to the Windows machine for the rest. One of the things that the Mac can do that Windows can't is allow me to upload videos. But every time I make one with Photobooth on the Mac, there's a 95% chance that youtube will cut it off. The length and size of the videos are fine, so I don't know why it keeps doing this. But even when I delete a video and then reupload it, the same thing happens and it stops at the same spot where it originally did on that particular video. Each time is different. Sometimes, it stops at 10 seconds, sometimes 21, sometimes 38 etc. The rest of the time, it uploads them correctly. I never have this problem with the videos that I make on the Windows machine which I then have to port onto the Mac to upload. So how can I get it to stop doing that? Do I need to convert them from mov to something else? If so, how do I do that or what program (that's easy to use) can make videos in a more compatible format like mp4 or something so that I don't have to deal with this? I tried e-mailing my video from the Mac using the mobile option but it didn't work or at least, it didn't show up yet. While I'm at it, has anyone else noticed that it's completely impossible to edit your profile now? I had to get sighted assistance to do it. Also, does anyone know how I can change the address used on there from my old gmail one to my new gmail one? It sens me to some kind of Google page but Safari can't read or do anything with it. Maybe, I should just look for a more accessible video site, but it would be a real shame to have to lose my youtube subscribers. Thanks, Eleni --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- S-- Re: Sendspace Wizard Question
Hi, Yes I have tried using send space wisard and had the same problem. I do not have a send space max account any more so do not use it any more, but I hope that send space can do something about this. On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:29 PM, David McLean wrote: > > I guess you were able to login from what you say but that's my > problem. I can't get keyboard focus to move to the login or password > boxes. When I type nothing happens so I'm stuck at that point. > Did you have to do anything special to enter your login and password? > On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, it works really well. There is an extended VoiceOver >> compatibility option. I believe you can log in without that feature >> enabled, because the way I remember it, you can't enable it before >> you >> log in. >> >> Just had a look, and you seem to be able to. When you log in, go to >> the options menu and you'll find it. >> >> I wrote the support team about some minor things, and they say >> they'll >> test it before the next release. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:07 PM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, This probably seems like a strange question for this list >>> but I >>> am sure some folks on this list have probably used Sendspace in >>> Windows. The Windows version comes with a wizard that allows for >>> the >>> download of multiple files simultaneously and I was pleasantly >>> surprised the other day to find that there is also a version for the >>> Mac. >>> However when I tried it I found I can't get past the login screen >>> because I can't type anything in the login and password boxes. >>> I've tried routing the mouse an clicking it but it doesn't seem to >>> work. >>> Has anyone actually been able to use this? >>> Hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about! >>> Thanks for any help.∂ >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which best -- OpenOffice or IWork?
Hey if you are only going to be using it every so often then I would go with open office which is free and accessiblity. I chose iwork because I am using a mac mini and do not have a monitor connected to it at the moment. I do have a connecter hooked up but have yet to hook up the monitor. Just my thoughts. Mattheew On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote: > > Hi, > > I am still looking for a suitable office application for the Mac. > So, has anyone tried the latest OpenOffice.org builds for the Mac in > comparison with iWork? IWork is definitely accessible, but I am > still a bit reluctant about spending 90 dollars on an office > application that I will only be using occasionally. > > So, any opinions? > > Best regards Daniel > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
this switch changes the three finger tripple tap from muteing to turning off vo. this allows sighted users to use the phone as normal. it also allows a blind user to turn vo back on with the three finger tripple tap Pete On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > Odd that the checkbox doesn't change. I don't turn speech off on my > iphone much, so have never checked that out. Anyway, glad this > helped. > > You know, it's funny. When SL came out, I was really excited about > the trackpad commander. But I stopped using it almost immediately, > because it seemed I was always making things happen that I didn't want > to, moving the cursor, opening windows, etc. My arms tend to rest on > the front part of the Macbook, so when I was typing they would move > across the trackpad, initiating various and sundry events. I haven't > used the trackpad since shortly after I installed SL. I may give it > another try someday, but for the moment I've decided it's easier to > stick to the keyboard. > > Good luck, and let me know how it goes. > Take care, > Donna > On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted >> my >> speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in >> voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. >> Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using >> the trackpad. >> >> Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at >> least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. >> >> Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Erik, >>> >>> The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with >>> three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did >>> this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try >>> doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. >>> If it does, you know what's causing your problem. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't get it to do much. One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and so all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone for me when using the braille display. The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute check box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo volume are turned down. Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet and see if I can make it happen. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ftp server
Hi Everyone, I guess everyone has noticed by now that I am for the first time using my mac full time because my winbdows pc has totally crashed. My brother wants to buy it but only in januari, i dont want to go through all the hassle of reinstalling windows xp in the meantime. In a few weeks i will get a new broadband connection 4mbit upload 50mbit download so I guess i will get a usenet account at that time. But, is it possible to set up an ftp server on the mac? I would like for people to be able to upload files tome and for me to place stuff on my server for other people. Are there any options for sl I know transmit is only a client... Thanks a lot for all the help and info folks! Greetings, Anouk,Î --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: transmit, resume???
Hi Erik yeah i was a bit confused I thought transmit had a que and that que would just continue when i restarted the program and I could do process que like in filezilla but I found how it works. if a download breaks I can just reconnect to the server and redownload the directory that I was busy with, in options i have set the already existing files and folders to resume so now it works like a charm! I am happy i bought this program even though their support team did not return my email in the past. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 5, 2009, at 1:59 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi Anouk, > > There are three options for dealing with broken files as I recall. > Yes, there are resume, skip, Replace, and ask. So it sounds to me > like yours is set to replace. You can find this setting by opening > transmit and pressing command comma to open transmit preferences. You > will find them right away on the first page of settings. > > Hope this helps. > > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 7:50 PM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I was downloading a rather big file of about 2gb with 100kb >> per >> sec so it was taking a few hours when suddenly the ocnnection went >> iddle. But now that I return to that server it does not seem as if >> transmit is autoresuming. I consider this a highly essential feature >> for a piece of ftp software that is in its third version and that you >> have to pay for. >> Does anyone know how this works and if the resume feature is >> available >> even after restarting the program? >> Thanks, >> Greetings, Anouk, >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] MacSpeech Dictate Receives Update to V1.5.6
MacSpeech Dictate Receives Update to V1.5.6 Today, MacSpeech, Inc. announced the release of MacSpeech Dictate version 1.5.6, an update to their popular speech recognition solution for Mac OS X. The update introduces a new Dictation Preferences pane which allows users to enable or disable the Auto Cache Document feature for TextEdit and Microsoft Word, in addition to fixing reported issues. MacSpeech Dictate [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/11/04/macspeech-dictate-receives-update-to-v1-5-6/ The Mac-cessibility Network "...it's all within our reach..." http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: transmit, resume???
Hi Anouk, There are three options for dealing with broken files as I recall. Yes, there are resume, skip, Replace, and ask. So it sounds to me like yours is set to replace. You can find this setting by opening transmit and pressing command comma to open transmit preferences. You will find them right away on the first page of settings. Hope this helps. erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 7:50 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I was downloading a rather big file of about 2gb with 100kb per > sec so it was taking a few hours when suddenly the ocnnection went > iddle. But now that I return to that server it does not seem as if > transmit is autoresuming. I consider this a highly essential feature > for a piece of ftp software that is in its third version and that you > have to pay for. > Does anyone know how this works and if the resume feature is available > even after restarting the program? > Thanks, > Greetings, Anouk, > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
I year yah. For me though there's not much comparison between tom and Alex. Tom is choppy. All of those realspeak voices are. He's also slow, and I mean really slow. He's farely comfortable to listen to, but it's very hard to tell when he speaks the difference between d and t, b and p, and some other things. I think they may have tried to make him sound a bit more hip than he needed to be. Samantha isn't nice to hear at all. To me she sounds like a heavy smoker and her inflection is just bad. Given the choice between the two, I'd take tom any day. I just think alex has way better pronounsiation, especially in sl. I'm using ralf right now and thinking he doen't sound all that bad. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 7:32 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, Oh i still know quite a few people that use the old hal voices > in windows because others are just not fast enough, i myself just > really hate them though. I have not used infovox in the past because > in the past it had a Dutch voice which i absolutely did not like (this > was before the current ones) it is still included in some dutch > equipment. I just visited the ivox page today though and I like the > new Flemish voice Jeroen (flemish and Dutch are not THAT different). > I also visited the other site that nicolai gave me and I really liked > one of their british female voices although in all honesty i do think > ivox is better. > I must really say though that Alex reminds me of TOm in windows just > as mellow and relaxed, cool cat from the states. Alex is non-fatiguing > and I can use him for a long timeI just love the british accent so if > I can switch to that... > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> The problem with orpheous as I remember, well there were a couple of >> problems actually. The compression was just ruthlessly bad, and >> there >> was an insane amount of bass on them. I'd never heard a synthesizer >> so boomie. I know some people who really liked them, and now maybe >> they've improved since the days of hal 4.2 when I used it, but you're >> right, they would leave a bad impression on any first time >> synthesizer >> user. >> >> Did you try infovox? I have Ryan on my phone and I think he's really >> great, but the pronounciation was deplorable on leopard, and I just >> didn't have the time to write a whole new phoneem dictionary so I >> could figure out what my computer was saying. I'd like to try it >> again on sl though, since it's possible they've improved it. >> cepstril >> has some pretty good voices too. Not good enough to where I'd want >> to >> pay for them, but still, far from terrible. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 2:23 PM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Erik maybe this is because i did not use speechoften but non- >>> human sounding voices really distract me. Once in a while when i was >>> using windows my braille display gave out and I had to do a week >>> with >>> just speech, naturally i still had to learn stuff for school but it >>> just did not stick when only using speech as it does when i read it >>> in >>> braille and it is just etched in my brain. I have the seem with >>> lectures though, if i dont make notes then i can as well not go. I >>> dont have this problem with literature. I must note though that at >>> the >>> time I only had the horrible hal voices (orpheus) sure they were >>> fast >>> but they gave me a splitting headache. The only voices that I liked >>> in >>> windows were tom and daniel (i think they are both realspeak or >>> nextup >>> whatever the difference is). >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a little faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one else hates it. For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound anything like a human voice. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has > the > iphone. He is wondering why t
transmit, resume???
Hello, I was downloading a rather big file of about 2gb with 100kb per sec so it was taking a few hours when suddenly the ocnnection went iddle. But now that I return to that server it does not seem as if transmit is autoresuming. I consider this a highly essential feature for a piece of ftp software that is in its third version and that you have to pay for. Does anyone know how this works and if the resume feature is available even after restarting the program? Thanks, Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sendspace Wizard Question
I finally got it to work, at least got past the login. Now it looks more like what I'd expect. Thanks. On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, I forgot about that. Use tab to do it. Otherwise, VoiceOver has a > few problems and I contacted them about that as well. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:29 PM, David McLean wrote: > >> >> I guess you were able to login from what you say but that's my >> problem. I can't get keyboard focus to move to the login or password >> boxes. When I type nothing happens so I'm stuck at that point. >> Did you have to do anything special to enter your login and password? >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, it works really well. There is an extended VoiceOver >>> compatibility option. I believe you can log in without that feature >>> enabled, because the way I remember it, you can't enable it before >>> you >>> log in. >>> >>> Just had a look, and you seem to be able to. When you log in, go to >>> the options menu and you'll find it. >>> >>> I wrote the support team about some minor things, and they say >>> they'll >>> test it before the next release. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:07 PM, David McLean wrote: >>> Hello, This probably seems like a strange question for this list but I am sure some folks on this list have probably used Sendspace in Windows. The Windows version comes with a wizard that allows for the download of multiple files simultaneously and I was pleasantly surprised the other day to find that there is also a version for the Mac. However when I tried it I found I can't get past the login screen because I can't type anything in the login and password boxes. I've tried routing the mouse an clicking it but it doesn't seem to work. Has anyone actually been able to use this? Hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about! Thanks for any help.∂ > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: switching
Thanks Tony. it's a real shameabout spotify not being accessible. I'm Glad that xmarks works fine though. Dannie On 04/11/2009 19:11, Tony Bernedal wrote: > Hi. > Spottify is completely useless on the mac platform. the only thing you > see with v o is the searchfield. They don't answer mail to the support. > Xmarks works fine. the installation is no problem and it syncs your > bookmarks fine. The only problem I have with it is the menu in the > menubar that v o don't find. I can locate it with the mousepointer and > click on it and then v o reads it fine. Also the settings dialog is > little complicated with v o. But the standard settings works fine. > Good luck. > Regards Tony > > 4 nov 2009 kl. 16.19 skrev Daniel Rowe: > > >> Hi all. >> I have decided to take the plunge and get a mac either this or next >> week >> and have a few questions. >> >> I use firefox on windows, and have amassed a good number of bookmarks >> over the years. Recently I've started using an extension called >> xmarks, which basically syncs your bookmarks and now saved passwords >> with an online server. This allows you to recover them when you do a >> fresh install or whatever. The reason I'm mentioning this is that >> they >> have released a Version that is compatible with safari under sl. Has >> anyone used Xmarks on the mac and is it accessible at all? I want to >> make the switching over process as painless as possible and would hate >> to re-add all my bookmarks and things manually. There's also a >> version >> for IE by the way. >> >> Secondly, for those of you living in Europe, how accessible is spotify >> on the mac? I imagine because of how VO works that it would be far >> more >> usable than it is under windows with jfw. >> >> Finally, I just want to say that I absolutely love the item >> chooser. I >> haven't had much chance to use SL and the web rotor but it's amazing >> how >> quick it is to jump around webpages just using the item chooser. It's >> one of those things that you'd think that should have been around in >> windows screen readers for years. Also the fact that it's available >> anywhere is fantastic. >> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Hey Erik, well I do not have much experience with computer manufacturer support directly but i do with the dutch distributors of screenreaders hwo also give me a laptop. That support has gone way down hill I can tell you. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Cameron wrote: > > I'd like to hear that story if you please... > > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:24 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: apple warranty > > > That has been my personal experience. Although I have had both good > and bad experiences of most companies, the good experience of apple > has far outstripped anything I've gotten from any other company. I > know I've told my deep frier oil story numerous times on the list. It > never gets old for me, so if you're not sick of hearing it, let me > know and I'll relate it again. > > I'd say that here in North america at least, apple is followed closely > by asus. Dell, hp, and toshiba support are extremely hit and miss. > Toshiba support used to be abominable. fortunately they have made > some strides since I owned one, but I won't go back. > > Acer support should be a lot worse than it is considering the > astonishing array of cheep laptops they put out, but my acer > experience has been pretty good over all. Systemax had pretty good > phone support, but they took my laptop for 6 weeks and sent it back > still broken, so I'm disinclined to recomend them to anyone. > > Apple just blows most of these people out of the water on service > though. You hear of the ocasional bad experience, but over all it's > just amazingly good. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 4:33 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> >> I think what you're paying for more in the cost of a mac is better >> support. I'd heard some stats suggesting that the tech support that >> companies like Del, HP, and other PC manufacturers provided was lower >> in quality to that of Apple. >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >>> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not >>> linked >>> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >>> about >>> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >>> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a >>> schoolgoing >>> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >>> braille >>> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the >>> state) >>> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >>> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home >>> use >>> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >>> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would >>> be a >>> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >>> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they >>> of >>> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >>> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >>> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >>> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >>> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >>> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >>> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >>> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >>> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new >>> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is >>> common >>> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of >>> warranty >>> so that has to be included in the total price. >>> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year >>> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT >>> LEAST >>> 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
Hello, Oh i still know quite a few people that use the old hal voices in windows because others are just not fast enough, i myself just really hate them though. I have not used infovox in the past because in the past it had a Dutch voice which i absolutely did not like (this was before the current ones) it is still included in some dutch equipment. I just visited the ivox page today though and I like the new Flemish voice Jeroen (flemish and Dutch are not THAT different). I also visited the other site that nicolai gave me and I really liked one of their british female voices although in all honesty i do think ivox is better. I must really say though that Alex reminds me of TOm in windows just as mellow and relaxed, cool cat from the states. Alex is non-fatiguing and I can use him for a long timeI just love the british accent so if I can switch to that... Greetings, Anouk On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > The problem with orpheous as I remember, well there were a couple of > problems actually. The compression was just ruthlessly bad, and there > was an insane amount of bass on them. I'd never heard a synthesizer > so boomie. I know some people who really liked them, and now maybe > they've improved since the days of hal 4.2 when I used it, but you're > right, they would leave a bad impression on any first time synthesizer > user. > > Did you try infovox? I have Ryan on my phone and I think he's really > great, but the pronounciation was deplorable on leopard, and I just > didn't have the time to write a whole new phoneem dictionary so I > could figure out what my computer was saying. I'd like to try it > again on sl though, since it's possible they've improved it. cepstril > has some pretty good voices too. Not good enough to where I'd want to > pay for them, but still, far from terrible. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 2:23 PM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello Erik maybe this is because i did not use speechoften but non- >> human sounding voices really distract me. Once in a while when i was >> using windows my braille display gave out and I had to do a week with >> just speech, naturally i still had to learn stuff for school but it >> just did not stick when only using speech as it does when i read it >> in >> braille and it is just etched in my brain. I have the seem with >> lectures though, if i dont make notes then i can as well not go. I >> dont have this problem with literature. I must note though that at >> the >> time I only had the horrible hal voices (orpheus) sure they were fast >> but they gave me a splitting headache. The only voices that I liked >> in >> windows were tom and daniel (i think they are both realspeak or >> nextup >> whatever the difference is). >> Greetings, Anouk >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing >>> realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as >>> soon >>> as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad >>> but >>> it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a >>> little >>> faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable >>> now. >>> Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one >>> else hates it. >>> >>> For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as >>> it >>> pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound >>> anything like a human voice. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: >>> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has the iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. Greetings, Anouk > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: apple warranty
I'd like to hear that story if you please... -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:24 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: apple warranty That has been my personal experience. Although I have had both good and bad experiences of most companies, the good experience of apple has far outstripped anything I've gotten from any other company. I know I've told my deep frier oil story numerous times on the list. It never gets old for me, so if you're not sick of hearing it, let me know and I'll relate it again. I'd say that here in North america at least, apple is followed closely by asus. Dell, hp, and toshiba support are extremely hit and miss. Toshiba support used to be abominable. fortunately they have made some strides since I owned one, but I won't go back. Acer support should be a lot worse than it is considering the astonishing array of cheep laptops they put out, but my acer experience has been pretty good over all. Systemax had pretty good phone support, but they took my laptop for 6 weeks and sent it back still broken, so I'm disinclined to recomend them to anyone. Apple just blows most of these people out of the water on service though. You hear of the ocasional bad experience, but over all it's just amazingly good. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 4:33 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > I think what you're paying for more in the cost of a mac is better > support. I'd heard some stats suggesting that the tech support that > companies like Del, HP, and other PC manufacturers provided was lower > in quality to that of Apple. > On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked >> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >> about >> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing >> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >> braille >> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) >> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use >> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a >> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of >> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new >> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common >> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty >> so that has to be included in the total price. >> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year >> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST >> 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A browser suggestion for you all
You're welcome. I'll try it tomorrow I think. - Original Message - From: "Thomas McMahan" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:31 PM Subject: Re: A browser suggestion for you all > > Used it some time back, back though when a lot of use were still > using Tiger though, it wasn't bad then, and was thinking of > redownloading it again to give it a whirl because Safari seems to get > slugish with me on more intense sites, so since you kindly provided > the link, and going to give it a shot. > > Thanks for the link. > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:01 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I was thinking about this the other day and wondered if any of you >> have >> tried Shiira. The last time I used it, it was very accessible and >> although >> their beta crashed on me that was a long time ago. Try it and see >> what you >> think. >> >> As I say I really liked it and I might go back to using it. >> >> The link is below: >> http://shiira.jp/en.php >> >> Take care >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
The problem with orpheous as I remember, well there were a couple of problems actually. The compression was just ruthlessly bad, and there was an insane amount of bass on them. I'd never heard a synthesizer so boomie. I know some people who really liked them, and now maybe they've improved since the days of hal 4.2 when I used it, but you're right, they would leave a bad impression on any first time synthesizer user. Did you try infovox? I have Ryan on my phone and I think he's really great, but the pronounciation was deplorable on leopard, and I just didn't have the time to write a whole new phoneem dictionary so I could figure out what my computer was saying. I'd like to try it again on sl though, since it's possible they've improved it. cepstril has some pretty good voices too. Not good enough to where I'd want to pay for them, but still, far from terrible. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 2:23 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello Erik maybe this is because i did not use speechoften but non- > human sounding voices really distract me. Once in a while when i was > using windows my braille display gave out and I had to do a week with > just speech, naturally i still had to learn stuff for school but it > just did not stick when only using speech as it does when i read it in > braille and it is just etched in my brain. I have the seem with > lectures though, if i dont make notes then i can as well not go. I > dont have this problem with literature. I must note though that at the > time I only had the horrible hal voices (orpheus) sure they were fast > but they gave me a splitting headache. The only voices that I liked in > windows were tom and daniel (i think they are both realspeak or nextup > whatever the difference is). > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing >> realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon >> as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but >> it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a >> little >> faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. >> Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one >> else hates it. >> >> For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it >> pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound >> anything like a human voice. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has >>> the >>> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also >>> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating >>> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices >>> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a >>> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rockbox on a mac.
Hi, that was me who posted earlier. I have cepstril installed, and the rockbox utility picked up on that right away and precofigured it for me. It will also handle espeak and flite if they are properly installed. I can't find a download for flite. Maybe it's been discontinued. I've got espeak for the mac, but according to the instructions I may have to build it myself from source. The package file says it's already built, but the instructions make it look like I have to compile and manually place sertain things and edit config files to get the thing up and running. If you make any headway, I'd love to know. Right now my sansa is saying, "this voice is not licenced. Please go to www.cepstril.com to purchase a licence." It's doing that every time I press a control on my player and as you can imagine, it's really, really annoing. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 2:27 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi there, > > Apologies for starting a new thread, but I want to pick up on a mail > that was sent yesterday. > > I'm presently trying to get the rockbox utility going with Alex on > the mac. The issue is that it's looking for the path to the > synthesiser which I can't find. Anyway, I've downloaded the source > code, and am trying to find a hacky way (which I won't be submitting > as a patch or anything like that because the code will be > embarrassingly bad) to get it to deliver the required clips. > > Will keep people informed if interested... > > Best, > > Dónal > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
That has been my personal experience. Although I have had both good and bad experiences of most companies, the good experience of apple has far outstripped anything I've gotten from any other company. I know I've told my deep frier oil story numerous times on the list. It never gets old for me, so if you're not sick of hearing it, let me know and I'll relate it again. I'd say that here in North america at least, apple is followed closely by asus. Dell, hp, and toshiba support are extremely hit and miss. Toshiba support used to be abominable. fortunately they have made some strides since I owned one, but I won't go back. Acer support should be a lot worse than it is considering the astonishing array of cheep laptops they put out, but my acer experience has been pretty good over all. Systemax had pretty good phone support, but they took my laptop for 6 weeks and sent it back still broken, so I'm disinclined to recomend them to anyone. Apple just blows most of these people out of the water on service though. You hear of the ocasional bad experience, but over all it's just amazingly good. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 4:33 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > I think what you're paying for more in the cost of a mac is better > support. I'd heard some stats suggesting that the tech support that > companies like Del, HP, and other PC manufacturers provided was lower > in quality to that of Apple. > On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked >> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >> about >> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing >> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >> braille >> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) >> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use >> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a >> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of >> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new >> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common >> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty >> so that has to be included in the total price. >> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year >> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST >> 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
I'm not sure. I have it here and it says it's compiled, but the instructions are kind'a sketchy and I haven't had time to play with it. I don't see why it wouldn't work with voiceover though. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 2:17 PM, william lomas wrote: > > espeak doesn't work with voiceover yet though does it? > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 17:06, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing >> realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon >> as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but >> it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a >> little >> faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. >> Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one >> else hates it. >> >> For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it >> pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound >> anything like a human voice. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has >>> the >>> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also >>> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating >>> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices >>> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a >>> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A browser suggestion for you all
Used it some time back, back though when a lot of use were still using Tiger though, it wasn't bad then, and was thinking of redownloading it again to give it a whirl because Safari seems to get slugish with me on more intense sites, so since you kindly provided the link, and going to give it a shot. Thanks for the link. On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:01 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I was thinking about this the other day and wondered if any of you > have > tried Shiira. The last time I used it, it was very accessible and > although > their beta crashed on me that was a long time ago. Try it and see > what you > think. > > As I say I really liked it and I might go back to using it. > > The link is below: > http://shiira.jp/en.php > > Take care > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- S-- Re: Sendspace Wizard Question
Hi, Yes, I forgot about that. Use tab to do it. Otherwise, VoiceOver has a few problems and I contacted them about that as well. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:29 PM, David McLean wrote: > > I guess you were able to login from what you say but that's my > problem. I can't get keyboard focus to move to the login or password > boxes. When I type nothing happens so I'm stuck at that point. > Did you have to do anything special to enter your login and password? > On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, it works really well. There is an extended VoiceOver >> compatibility option. I believe you can log in without that feature >> enabled, because the way I remember it, you can't enable it before >> you >> log in. >> >> Just had a look, and you seem to be able to. When you log in, go to >> the options menu and you'll find it. >> >> I wrote the support team about some minor things, and they say >> they'll >> test it before the next release. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:07 PM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, This probably seems like a strange question for this list >>> but I >>> am sure some folks on this list have probably used Sendspace in >>> Windows. The Windows version comes with a wizard that allows for >>> the >>> download of multiple files simultaneously and I was pleasantly >>> surprised the other day to find that there is also a version for the >>> Mac. >>> However when I tried it I found I can't get past the login screen >>> because I can't type anything in the login and password boxes. >>> I've tried routing the mouse an clicking it but it doesn't seem to >>> work. >>> Has anyone actually been able to use this? >>> Hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about! >>> Thanks for any help.∂ >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
Hi, I prefer Samantha from RealSpeak. Tom and Daniel are both RealSpeak. I think I like Samantha because it's the same as on the iPhone, though. :). I like her just in general, on a serious note. I definitely have to agree with Anouk. I prefer a human-sounding voice for sure, and it makes it more pleasant to listen to if you don't feel like dragging a braille display along during your travels if you convert text to audio. Although, if I have to read something aloud at university, I'd prefer a braille display for obvious reasons, as reading aloud what you hear is kind of distracting. Or just a simple book on occasion. Yep. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:23 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello Erik maybe this is because i did not use speechoften but non- > human sounding voices really distract me. Once in a while when i was > using windows my braille display gave out and I had to do a week with > just speech, naturally i still had to learn stuff for school but it > just did not stick when only using speech as it does when i read it in > braille and it is just etched in my brain. I have the seem with > lectures though, if i dont make notes then i can as well not go. I > dont have this problem with literature. I must note though that at the > time I only had the horrible hal voices (orpheus) sure they were fast > but they gave me a splitting headache. The only voices that I liked in > windows were tom and daniel (i think they are both realspeak or nextup > whatever the difference is). > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing >> realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon >> as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but >> it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a >> little >> faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. >> Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one >> else hates it. >> >> For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it >> pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound >> anything like a human voice. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has >>> the >>> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also >>> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating >>> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices >>> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a >>> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ot: looking for someone to capture and burn some audio using...?
May be off topic, but I know many here are strong, especially with audio hijack pro and itunes. this gig will be paid for the right person. need someone to grab some audio via stream using audio hijack pro, and burn it along with some other files to a CD. Its a gift, and I will pay via paypal for the right person. *please* write off list about this, so no one gets their undies in a wad. Thanks, Karen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: url history?
depends how you have your history set in safari. Me, I have mine set to a week, but some people set it as low as daily on deleting history items. good luck, Max On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:04 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, Since safari completes all the urls i type, does it keepa > history somewhere that I can view? I forgot an url that i typed > eaelier and I would like to get it back. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Yes but that support you only get if you pay for the 3 year plan otherwise it is only 90 days and as I said I am not at all sure that that apple support would mean anything to a voicover user. But I will try to get a hold of some people, hopefully things will get interesting over here. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:33 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > I think what you're paying for more in the cost of a mac is better > support. I'd heard some stats suggesting that the tech support that > companies like Del, HP, and other PC manufacturers provided was lower > in quality to that of Apple. > On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked >> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >> about >> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing >> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >> braille >> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) >> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use >> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a >> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of >> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new >> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common >> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty >> so that has to be included in the total price. >> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year >> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST >> 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
url history?
Hello, Since safari completes all the urls i type, does it keepa history somewhere that I can view? I forgot an url that i typed eaelier and I would like to get it back. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
uninstalling openoffice wasRe: Which best -- OpenOffice or IWork?
Hello, I am not sure if it was the latest built but i tried openoffice in leopard and found it slow, also some word documents opened as tables and I got it to crash rather easily so I switched to iworks. I didnt try it in snow leopard though and I would like to uninstall it and reinstall it before doing it. Does anyone know how I can uninstall openoffice? Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote: > > Hi, > > I am still looking for a suitable office application for the Mac. > So, has anyone tried the latest OpenOffice.org builds for the Mac in > comparison with iWork? IWork is definitely accessible, but I am > still a bit reluctant about spending 90 dollars on an office > application that I will only be using occasionally. > > So, any opinions? > > Best regards Daniel > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A browser suggestion for you all
Really, I tried it a minute ago how strange. I'm sorry about htat. - Original Message - From: "Chris Blouch" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: Re: A browser suggestion for you all > > The English version of the site seems to be down. > > CB > > James & Nash wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I was thinking about this the other day and wondered if any of you have >> tried Shiira. The last time I used it, it was very accessible and >> although >> their beta crashed on me that was a long time ago. Try it and see what >> you >> think. >> >> As I say I really liked it and I might go back to using it. >> >> The link is below: >> http://shiira.jp/en.php >> >> Take care >> >> James >> >> >> > >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A browser suggestion for you all
The English version of the site seems to be down. CB James & Nash wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I was thinking about this the other day and wondered if any of you have > tried Shiira. The last time I used it, it was very accessible and although > their beta crashed on me that was a long time ago. Try it and see what you > think. > > As I say I really liked it and I might go back to using it. > > The link is below: > http://shiira.jp/en.php > > Take care > > James > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which best -- OpenOffice or IWork?
I've mostly played with the OpenOffice wordprocessor and found tables to be lacking in accessibility but other parts work quite well. You can download it for free so why not give it a whirl. http://download.openoffice.org/index.html CB Daniel K. Gartmann wrote: > > Hi, > > I am still looking for a suitable office application for the Mac. So, > has anyone tried the latest OpenOffice.org builds for the Mac in > comparison with iWork? IWork is definitely accessible, but I am still > a bit reluctant about spending 90 dollars on an office application > that I will only be using occasionally. > > So, any opinions? > > Best regards Daniel > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
A browser suggestion for you all
Hi everyone, I was thinking about this the other day and wondered if any of you have tried Shiira. The last time I used it, it was very accessible and although their beta crashed on me that was a long time ago. Try it and see what you think. As I say I really liked it and I might go back to using it. The link is below: http://shiira.jp/en.php Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
question about transmit 3 downloads
Hello Erik and others, I bought transmit because I really need an ftp client on the mac. I am now downloading a folder because if i do cmd-q it says that there are still transmits in progress. But I cant find a que of any kind where i can see how far things are. Is it possible to view a progress indicator of some kind (i know I am impatient and controlling, lol). Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
I think what you're paying for more in the cost of a mac is better support. I'd heard some stats suggesting that the tech support that companies like Del, HP, and other PC manufacturers provided was lower in quality to that of Apple. On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display > developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked > to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking about > how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille > display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing > child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a braille > display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) > if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a > screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use > you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really > beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a > lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom > scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of > course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the > free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and > maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to > write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. > apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most > importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price > to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you > have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, > after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new > braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common > practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty > so that has to be included in the total price. > I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year > of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST > 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- S-- Re: Sendspace Wizard Question
I guess you were able to login from what you say but that's my problem. I can't get keyboard focus to move to the login or password boxes. When I type nothing happens so I'm stuck at that point. Did you have to do anything special to enter your login and password? On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, it works really well. There is an extended VoiceOver > compatibility option. I believe you can log in without that feature > enabled, because the way I remember it, you can't enable it before you > log in. > > Just had a look, and you seem to be able to. When you log in, go to > the options menu and you'll find it. > > I wrote the support team about some minor things, and they say they'll > test it before the next release. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:07 PM, David McLean wrote: > >> >> Hello, This probably seems like a strange question for this list >> but I >> am sure some folks on this list have probably used Sendspace in >> Windows. The Windows version comes with a wizard that allows for the >> download of multiple files simultaneously and I was pleasantly >> surprised the other day to find that there is also a version for the >> Mac. >> However when I tried it I found I can't get past the login screen >> because I can't type anything in the login and password boxes. >> I've tried routing the mouse an clicking it but it doesn't seem to >> work. >> Has anyone actually been able to use this? >> Hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about! >> Thanks for any help.∂ >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iphone why no flash and java?
My understanding is that Apple wants to control the quality of the applications on its phone using the iTunes app store as gatekeeper. Both Flash and Java have the ability to break this model because folks could deliver applications in either of those containers. I haven't checked on the current iPhone but ones in the past used an ARM processor which actually had extra hardware to make Java run faster, so this isn't a technical problem. Apple recognized that one of the biggest uses for flash is playing back video so they made the YouTube app but, as you mentioned, there are lots of other video sites besides YouTube. Hopefully this issue will slowly go away as we go to HTML5 which has native video playback and won't need Flash for that purpose. One little nitpick, Java has very little to do with JavaScript other than the name. So the iPhone will run web pages with JavaScript just fine. Embedded or downloadable Java apps will fail, but nobody really does Java on the 'desktop' these days. It's mostly used on the backend for servers. As a side note, I heard some multiple arcade machine emulators got nixed for similar reasons. You could download chunks of arbitrary code to the emulator and make them into another 'platform' for un-approved applications. CB Jake wrote: > Hi > Only Apple knows the reasons Flash is not allowed, but I can > speculate. The first reason is that, on platforms other than Windows, > Flash is a resource hog and Adobe noticeably lets it lag behind. It's > a battery guzzler. > As for Java, the reason is stated in the app store policies. A java > environment could run arbitrary code on the device, which Apple does > not want. This could also be the reason Flash is disallowed in > addition to the reason above. Note though that Javascript is > supported, java and javascript are not even remotely related. Without > javascript, most webpages wouldn't work. > I for one am glad there's no Flash, and not just because it's > inaccessible on other platforms than Windows. The sooner the web > begins moving to the open HTML 5 standard the better off we'll be. > > > > anouk radix wrote: > >> Hello, I thought because everyone here is so up on things maybe you >> guys know this. My brother just got an iphone and he is in love with >> it, the only thing he does not like is that it has no java or flash, >> because it has no flash he cant watch a lot of movies that are on the >> web even though there are applications for youtube apparenlty he >> visits a lot of other sites that have no such applications and ust >> rely on flash. >> I guess javascript is not there because people can easily develop aps >> in it and apple wants to keep that right to a controlled group? >> Greetings, Anouk >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Which best -- OpenOffice or IWork?
Hi, I am still looking for a suitable office application for the Mac. So, has anyone tried the latest OpenOffice.org builds for the Mac in comparison with iWork? IWork is definitely accessible, but I am still a bit reluctant about spending 90 dollars on an office application that I will only be using occasionally. So, any opinions? Best regards Daniel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garageband accessibility
Hi Ginny, to export your labels, go into voiceover utility, hit command-shift-E, in the dialogue that comes up, there'll be a pop-up button from which you can select to export your labels, and then like any other save dialog, you can select where to save the exported file. HTH. On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Ginny Owens wrote: > > I have almost all my buttons labeled in Logic 9 if anyone wants > them. I > just have to figure out how to export them. I have many of the > buttons in > GB 5 labeled or re-labeled with better info as well. > > > Ginny Owens > Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com > MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens > Be my fan on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ginny-Owens/7671492734 > > Be my friend on Facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/people/Ginny-Owens/742018292 > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ginnyowens > iLike: http://www.ilike.com/artist/Ginny+Owens > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ben mustill-rose > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:48 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: garageband accessibility > > > My understanding is that they only work on machines with a 15 > screen, due to > the scripts actually moving the cursor and clicking on the required > button > when a hotkey is pressed. > > Its far from ideal and the people (One does the scripting and > another does > the documentation - the documentation guy's the musical one) kno > this, but > at th end of the day, its better than nothing. I've heard songs that > have > been produced in logic using the scripts and they seem good enough. > > I've just emailed him. > > On 04/11/2009, Scott Chesworth wrote: >> >> Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask. >> Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with >> bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been >> thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of >> development was a bit up in the air. Don't get me wrong they're cool >> for what they are and I'm grateful that they exist, so long as they >> work on your system, but there's a big difference between these and >> the native accessibility that really should be there by now. Come to >> think of it there's probably a significant difference too between >> what >> these can do and what a good scripter could probably put out now that >> VO and Aplle Script play nice, but that's just speculation. I say it >> almost everytime I post, but if you have any interest in either Logic >> or Garageband, make sure that Apple know that by emailing >> accessibil...@apple.com. They won't say much back currently, just >> thank you for your interest, but increased numbers showing interest >> is >> probably our best chance of seeing some changes at this stage. >> >> Anouk - Logic is more like Apple's competitor to Pro Tools. You'll >> find that many many studios and musicians tend to be using one or the >> other as their main app. It's a big step up from Garageband >> capability and features wise, and would take most people a lot longer >> to learn and figure out because the user interface is huge in >> comparrison. Garageband, if and when it's ever fully accessible, is >> one of the coolest products I've ever seen for someone who isn't a >> pro >> musician, being both simple to use and still fairly powerful. Make >> sure Apple know that you're itching to use it. >> >> Cheers >> Scott >> >> anouk radix wrote: >>> Hello, Logic is sort of the full version of garageband, right? >>> Greetings, AnoukOn Nov 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>> I still need to speak to my friend to see if he'll share his scripts to make logic accessible. Will do that asap; it would make more sence to use logic as apposed to garage band given its feature list and the low price. On 03/11/2009, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I was thinking now that there is progress with making > protools accessible maybe we could bundle the issues that are > still around when using garageband and preventing it to be all > that usable for blind users. Maybe we could ask apple to improve > on this now that protools is getting better as well. I am not a > serious pro musician so would rather use garageband then protools > but I want it to be accessible before I do this. > Greetings, Anouk > >> > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are sub
Re: iphone why no flash and java?
Hello, Thanks for that info. I and my brother thought it must be something like that. I dont mind but for him it can be irritating when all the other smartphones do support these things. I too agree though I hope flash gets phased out soon, i hate it when you totally cant access certain site contents because they are flash. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Jake wrote: > > Hi > Only Apple knows the reasons Flash is not allowed, but I can > speculate. The first reason is that, on platforms other than Windows, > Flash is a resource hog and Adobe noticeably lets it lag behind. It's > a battery guzzler. > As for Java, the reason is stated in the app store policies. A java > environment could run arbitrary code on the device, which Apple does > not want. This could also be the reason Flash is disallowed in > addition to the reason above. Note though that Javascript is > supported, java and javascript are not even remotely related. Without > javascript, most webpages wouldn't work. > I for one am glad there's no Flash, and not just because it's > inaccessible on other platforms than Windows. The sooner the web > begins moving to the open HTML 5 standard the better off we'll be. > > > > anouk radix wrote: >> Hello, I thought because everyone here is so up on things maybe you >> guys know this. My brother just got an iphone and he is in love with >> it, the only thing he does not like is that it has no java or flash, >> because it has no flash he cant watch a lot of movies that are on the >> web even though there are applications for youtube apparenlty he >> visits a lot of other sites that have no such applications and ust >> rely on flash. >> I guess javascript is not there because people can easily develop aps >> in it and apple wants to keep that right to a controlled group? >> Greetings, Anouk > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iphone why no flash and java?
Hi Only Apple knows the reasons Flash is not allowed, but I can speculate. The first reason is that, on platforms other than Windows, Flash is a resource hog and Adobe noticeably lets it lag behind. It's a battery guzzler. As for Java, the reason is stated in the app store policies. A java environment could run arbitrary code on the device, which Apple does not want. This could also be the reason Flash is disallowed in addition to the reason above. Note though that Javascript is supported, java and javascript are not even remotely related. Without javascript, most webpages wouldn't work. I for one am glad there's no Flash, and not just because it's inaccessible on other platforms than Windows. The sooner the web begins moving to the open HTML 5 standard the better off we'll be. anouk radix wrote: > Hello, I thought because everyone here is so up on things maybe you > guys know this. My brother just got an iphone and he is in love with > it, the only thing he does not like is that it has no java or flash, > because it has no flash he cant watch a lot of movies that are on the > web even though there are applications for youtube apparenlty he > visits a lot of other sites that have no such applications and ust > rely on flash. > I guess javascript is not there because people can easily develop aps > in it and apple wants to keep that right to a controlled group? > Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
cereproc voices
Hello Nicolai, thanks a lot for the cereproc link. I did not know before today that these voices existed. I like the fact you can buy one voice at a time and they are not that costly. I like the Sarah voice. She sounds the most natural and hq to me. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
I thought espeak only worked in linux. Isnt it the standard orca voice? Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:17 PM, william lomas wrote: > > espeak doesn't work with voiceover yet though does it? > > On 4 Nov 2009, at 17:06, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing >> realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon >> as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but >> it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a >> little >> faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. >> Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one >> else hates it. >> >> For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it >> pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound >> anything like a human voice. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has >>> the >>> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also >>> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating >>> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices >>> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a >>> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Rockbox on a mac.
Hi there, Apologies for starting a new thread, but I want to pick up on a mail that was sent yesterday. I'm presently trying to get the rockbox utility going with Alex on the mac. The issue is that it's looking for the path to the synthesiser which I can't find. Anyway, I've downloaded the source code, and am trying to find a hacky way (which I won't be submitting as a patch or anything like that because the code will be embarrassingly bad) to get it to deliver the required clips. Will keep people informed if interested... Best, Dónal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
Hello Erik maybe this is because i did not use speechoften but non- human sounding voices really distract me. Once in a while when i was using windows my braille display gave out and I had to do a week with just speech, naturally i still had to learn stuff for school but it just did not stick when only using speech as it does when i read it in braille and it is just etched in my brain. I have the seem with lectures though, if i dont make notes then i can as well not go. I dont have this problem with literature. I must note though that at the time I only had the horrible hal voices (orpheus) sure they were fast but they gave me a splitting headache. The only voices that I liked in windows were tom and daniel (i think they are both realspeak or nextup whatever the difference is). Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing > realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon > as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but > it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a little > faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. > Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one > else hates it. > > For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it > pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound > anything like a human voice. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has the >> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also >> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating >> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices >> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a >> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
espeak doesn't work with voiceover yet though does it? On 4 Nov 2009, at 17:06, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing > realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon > as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but > it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a little > faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. > Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one > else hates it. > > For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it > pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound > anything like a human voice. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has the >> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also >> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating >> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices >> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a >> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: switching
Hi. Spottify is completely useless on the mac platform. the only thing you see with v o is the searchfield. They don't answer mail to the support. Xmarks works fine. the installation is no problem and it syncs your bookmarks fine. The only problem I have with it is the menu in the menubar that v o don't find. I can locate it with the mousepointer and click on it and then v o reads it fine. Also the settings dialog is little complicated with v o. But the standard settings works fine. Good luck. Regards Tony 4 nov 2009 kl. 16.19 skrev Daniel Rowe: > > Hi all. > I have decided to take the plunge and get a mac either this or next > week > and have a few questions. > > I use firefox on windows, and have amassed a good number of bookmarks > over the years. Recently I've started using an extension called > xmarks, which basically syncs your bookmarks and now saved passwords > with an online server. This allows you to recover them when you do a > fresh install or whatever. The reason I'm mentioning this is that > they > have released a Version that is compatible with safari under sl. Has > anyone used Xmarks on the mac and is it accessible at all? I want to > make the switching over process as painless as possible and would hate > to re-add all my bookmarks and things manually. There's also a > version > for IE by the way. > > Secondly, for those of you living in Europe, how accessible is spotify > on the mac? I imagine because of how VO works that it would be far > more > usable than it is under windows with jfw. > > Finally, I just want to say that I absolutely love the item > chooser. I > haven't had much chance to use SL and the web rotor but it's amazing > how > quick it is to jump around webpages just using the item chooser. It's > one of those things that you'd think that should have been around in > windows screen readers for years. Also the fact that it's available > anywhere is fantastic. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
Hum. Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I thing realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as soon as I can. Elloquence is pretty horrible too. Dektalk is not bad but it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days. Alex runs a little faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable now. Fred's better. I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one else hates it. For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as it pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound anything like a human voice. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has the > iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also > available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating > system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices > will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a > lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: garageband accessibility
I have almost all my buttons labeled in Logic 9 if anyone wants them. I just have to figure out how to export them. I have many of the buttons in GB 5 labeled or re-labeled with better info as well. Ginny Owens Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens Be my fan on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ginny-Owens/7671492734 Be my friend on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Ginny-Owens/742018292 Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ginnyowens iLike: http://www.ilike.com/artist/Ginny+Owens -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ben mustill-rose Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: garageband accessibility My understanding is that they only work on machines with a 15 screen, due to the scripts actually moving the cursor and clicking on the required button when a hotkey is pressed. Its far from ideal and the people (One does the scripting and another does the documentation - the documentation guy's the musical one) kno this, but at th end of the day, its better than nothing. I've heard songs that have been produced in logic using the scripts and they seem good enough. I've just emailed him. On 04/11/2009, Scott Chesworth wrote: > > Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask. > Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with > bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been > thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of > development was a bit up in the air. Don't get me wrong they're cool > for what they are and I'm grateful that they exist, so long as they > work on your system, but there's a big difference between these and > the native accessibility that really should be there by now. Come to > think of it there's probably a significant difference too between what > these can do and what a good scripter could probably put out now that > VO and Aplle Script play nice, but that's just speculation. I say it > almost everytime I post, but if you have any interest in either Logic > or Garageband, make sure that Apple know that by emailing > accessibil...@apple.com. They won't say much back currently, just > thank you for your interest, but increased numbers showing interest is > probably our best chance of seeing some changes at this stage. > > Anouk - Logic is more like Apple's competitor to Pro Tools. You'll > find that many many studios and musicians tend to be using one or the > other as their main app. It's a big step up from Garageband > capability and features wise, and would take most people a lot longer > to learn and figure out because the user interface is huge in > comparrison. Garageband, if and when it's ever fully accessible, is > one of the coolest products I've ever seen for someone who isn't a pro > musician, being both simple to use and still fairly powerful. Make > sure Apple know that you're itching to use it. > > Cheers > Scott > > anouk radix wrote: >> Hello, Logic is sort of the full version of garageband, right? >> Greetings, AnoukOn Nov 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> >> > >> > I still need to speak to my friend to see if he'll share his >> > scripts to make logic accessible. >> > >> > Will do that asap; it would make more sence to use logic as apposed >> > to garage band given its feature list and the low price. >> > >> > >> > On 03/11/2009, anouk radix wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, I was thinking now that there is progress with making >> >> protools accessible maybe we could bundle the issues that are >> >> still around when using garageband and preventing it to be all >> >> that usable for blind users. Maybe we could ask apple to improve >> >> on this now that protools is getting better as well. I am not a >> >> serious pro musician so would rather use garageband then protools >> >> but I want it to be accessible before I do this. >> >> Greetings, Anouk >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kind regards, BEN. >> > >> > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com >> > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com >> > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) >> > >> > > > > > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garageband accessibility make sure that Apple know that by emailing accessibil...@apple.com. Logic 9.02 is very close to being there!
Hi Listers, Logic 9.02 has picked up more buttons labeled but not there yet. EVERY BODY please let apple know we need the track information to be accessable! Email email email them! Talk soon On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:47 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > My understanding is that they only work on machines with a 15 screen, > due to the scripts actually moving the cursor and clicking on the > required button when a hotkey is pressed. > > Its far from ideal and the people (One does the scripting and another > does the documentation - the documentation guy's the musical one) kno > this, but at th end of the day, its better than nothing. I've heard > songs that have been produced in logic using the scripts and they seem > good enough. > > I've just emailed him. > > On 04/11/2009, Scott Chesworth wrote: >> >> Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask. >> Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with >> bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been >> thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of >> development was a bit up in the air. Don't get me wrong they're cool >> for what they are and I'm grateful that they exist, so long as they >> work on your system, but there's a big difference between these and >> the native accessibility that really should be there by now. Come to >> think of it there's probably a significant difference too between >> what >> these can do and what a good scripter could probably put out now that >> VO and Aplle Script play nice, but that's just speculation. I say it >> almost everytime I post, but if you have any interest in either Logic >> or Garageband, make sure that Apple know that by emailing >> accessibil...@apple.com. They won't say much back currently, just >> thank you for your interest, but increased numbers showing interest >> is >> probably our best chance of seeing some changes at this stage. >> >> Anouk - Logic is more like Apple's competitor to Pro Tools. You'll >> find that many many studios and musicians tend to be using one or the >> other as their main app. It's a big step up from Garageband >> capability and features wise, and would take most people a lot longer >> to learn and figure out because the user interface is huge in >> comparrison. Garageband, if and when it's ever fully accessible, is >> one of the coolest products I've ever seen for someone who isn't a >> pro >> musician, being both simple to use and still fairly powerful. Make >> sure Apple know that you're itching to use it. >> >> Cheers >> Scott >> >> anouk radix wrote: >>> Hello, Logic is sort of the full version of garageband, right? >>> Greetings, AnoukOn Nov 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>> I still need to speak to my friend to see if he'll share his scripts to make logic accessible. Will do that asap; it would make more sence to use logic as apposed to garage band given its feature list and the low price. On 03/11/2009, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I was thinking now that there is progress with making > protools > accessible maybe we could bundle the issues that are still around > when > using garageband and preventing it to be all that usable for blind > users. Maybe we could ask apple to improve on this now that > protools > is getting better as well. I am not a serious pro musician so > would > rather use garageband then protools but I want it to be accessible > before I do this. > Greetings, Anouk > >> > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garageband accessibility
My understanding is that they only work on machines with a 15 screen, due to the scripts actually moving the cursor and clicking on the required button when a hotkey is pressed. Its far from ideal and the people (One does the scripting and another does the documentation - the documentation guy's the musical one) kno this, but at th end of the day, its better than nothing. I've heard songs that have been produced in logic using the scripts and they seem good enough. I've just emailed him. On 04/11/2009, Scott Chesworth wrote: > > Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask. > Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with > bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been > thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of > development was a bit up in the air. Don't get me wrong they're cool > for what they are and I'm grateful that they exist, so long as they > work on your system, but there's a big difference between these and > the native accessibility that really should be there by now. Come to > think of it there's probably a significant difference too between what > these can do and what a good scripter could probably put out now that > VO and Aplle Script play nice, but that's just speculation. I say it > almost everytime I post, but if you have any interest in either Logic > or Garageband, make sure that Apple know that by emailing > accessibil...@apple.com. They won't say much back currently, just > thank you for your interest, but increased numbers showing interest is > probably our best chance of seeing some changes at this stage. > > Anouk - Logic is more like Apple's competitor to Pro Tools. You'll > find that many many studios and musicians tend to be using one or the > other as their main app. It's a big step up from Garageband > capability and features wise, and would take most people a lot longer > to learn and figure out because the user interface is huge in > comparrison. Garageband, if and when it's ever fully accessible, is > one of the coolest products I've ever seen for someone who isn't a pro > musician, being both simple to use and still fairly powerful. Make > sure Apple know that you're itching to use it. > > Cheers > Scott > > anouk radix wrote: >> Hello, Logic is sort of the full version of garageband, right? >> Greetings, AnoukOn Nov 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> >> > >> > I still need to speak to my friend to see if he'll share his scripts >> > to make logic accessible. >> > >> > Will do that asap; it would make more sence to use logic as apposed to >> > garage band given its feature list and the low price. >> > >> > >> > On 03/11/2009, anouk radix wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, I was thinking now that there is progress with making protools >> >> accessible maybe we could bundle the issues that are still around >> >> when >> >> using garageband and preventing it to be all that usable for blind >> >> users. Maybe we could ask apple to improve on this now that protools >> >> is getting better as well. I am not a serious pro musician so would >> >> rather use garageband then protools but I want it to be accessible >> >> before I do this. >> >> Greetings, Anouk >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kind regards, BEN. >> > >> > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com >> > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com >> > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) >> > >> > > > > > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garageband accessibility
Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask. Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of development was a bit up in the air. Don't get me wrong they're cool for what they are and I'm grateful that they exist, so long as they work on your system, but there's a big difference between these and the native accessibility that really should be there by now. Come to think of it there's probably a significant difference too between what these can do and what a good scripter could probably put out now that VO and Aplle Script play nice, but that's just speculation. I say it almost everytime I post, but if you have any interest in either Logic or Garageband, make sure that Apple know that by emailing accessibil...@apple.com. They won't say much back currently, just thank you for your interest, but increased numbers showing interest is probably our best chance of seeing some changes at this stage. Anouk - Logic is more like Apple's competitor to Pro Tools. You'll find that many many studios and musicians tend to be using one or the other as their main app. It's a big step up from Garageband capability and features wise, and would take most people a lot longer to learn and figure out because the user interface is huge in comparrison. Garageband, if and when it's ever fully accessible, is one of the coolest products I've ever seen for someone who isn't a pro musician, being both simple to use and still fairly powerful. Make sure Apple know that you're itching to use it. Cheers Scott anouk radix wrote: > Hello, Logic is sort of the full version of garageband, right? > Greetings, AnoukOn Nov 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > > > > I still need to speak to my friend to see if he'll share his scripts > > to make logic accessible. > > > > Will do that asap; it would make more sence to use logic as apposed to > > garage band given its feature list and the low price. > > > > > > On 03/11/2009, anouk radix wrote: > >> > >> Hello, I was thinking now that there is progress with making protools > >> accessible maybe we could bundle the issues that are still around > >> when > >> using garageband and preventing it to be all that usable for blind > >> users. Maybe we could ask apple to improve on this now that protools > >> is getting better as well. I am not a serious pro musician so would > >> rather use garageband then protools but I want it to be accessible > >> before I do this. > >> Greetings, Anouk > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards, BEN. > > > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iphone why no flash and java?
Hello, I thought because everyone here is so up on things maybe you guys know this. My brother just got an iphone and he is in love with it, the only thing he does not like is that it has no java or flash, because it has no flash he cant watch a lot of movies that are on the web even though there are applications for youtube apparenlty he visits a lot of other sites that have no such applications and ust rely on flash. I guess javascript is not there because people can easily develop aps in it and apple wants to keep that right to a controlled group? Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: addition to webrotor
Hi, They shouldn't need to make it a standard command. It's easy enough to customize, and the command is already available. Just not assigned. Here, you get flexibility. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:01 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I really need to get into voicover commander and setup a > ocmmand to quickly switch between group and dom because I am too lazy > to open vo-util everytime. I also need to do the seem for muting > speech, i hope they will add a command for this someday. > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Safari is wicked slow at handling frames. If you can get in to group >> mode though, that will take care of any issues you are having with >> tables. For example. There is a web site called tape trader where >> fans trade their recordings of live conserts. When you do a search >> or >> look at some ones list of shows in dom mode, the dates don't show up >> anywhere. All of the other info is available, and you can check the >> shows you want, but you cant get the date with VO, which is the most >> important piece of the puzzle. By switching to group mode, I guess >> it >> takes the date out of the check box column where it shows up on >> windows and gives it its own column. So you can cruze the dates very >> easily and check the one you want. Only two problems I've found with >> group mode. It does tend to slow browsing down a bit, and safari is >> not known for being greesed lightning to begin with in my experience. >> Also, your adium chats won't display properly in group mode, a >> situation which I very much hope will be fixed at some point because >> group mode is my friend and I'd like to keep him with me always. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 9:47 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate >>> webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser >>> because >>> some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i >>> use >>> dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because >>> they >>> are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One >>> problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the >>> second >>> occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only >>> shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc >>> and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on >>> the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages >>> with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall >>> surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is >>> still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Anouk, Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are endless. The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on what you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to the search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I have done it a bit more often >>> part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to go to the next instance. If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, simply press the back space once to clear the entry and type something else. It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello Nicolai, > Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web > everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item > chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot > search > for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me > within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a
Re: url: alternative voices for the mac
Hi, I know you can get the Acapela voices from http://www.assistiveware.com Or you can visit CereProc at http://cereproc.com has some pretty decent voices as well. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:54 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I forgot the website where you can buy different language > voices for the mac. Someone in nl wants to know what voices you can > use with the mac but since I dont use speech often and have my system > and programs mail and internet in English I dont know much about it. > Greetings, Anouk, > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: addition to webrotor
Hello, I really need to get into voicover commander and setup a ocmmand to quickly switch between group and dom because I am too lazy to open vo-util everytime. I also need to do the seem for muting speech, i hope they will add a command for this someday. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:46 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Safari is wicked slow at handling frames. If you can get in to group > mode though, that will take care of any issues you are having with > tables. For example. There is a web site called tape trader where > fans trade their recordings of live conserts. When you do a search or > look at some ones list of shows in dom mode, the dates don't show up > anywhere. All of the other info is available, and you can check the > shows you want, but you cant get the date with VO, which is the most > important piece of the puzzle. By switching to group mode, I guess it > takes the date out of the check box column where it shows up on > windows and gives it its own column. So you can cruze the dates very > easily and check the one you want. Only two problems I've found with > group mode. It does tend to slow browsing down a bit, and safari is > not known for being greesed lightning to begin with in my experience. > Also, your adium chats won't display properly in group mode, a > situation which I very much hope will be fixed at some point because > group mode is my friend and I'd like to keep him with me always. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 9:47 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate >> webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser because >> some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i use >> dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because they >> are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One >> problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the >> second >> occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only >> shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc >> and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on >> the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages >> with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall >> surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is >> still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all. >> Greetings, Anouk >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Anouk, >>> >>> Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you >>> probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are >>> endless. >>> >>> The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on >>> what >>> you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to >>> the >>> search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know >>> pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the >>> worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I >>> have done it a bit more often >> >>> part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once >>> you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the >>> window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in >>> them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading >>> the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to >>> go to the next instance. >>> >>> If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, >>> simply >>> press the back space once to clear the entry and type something >>> else. >>> >>> It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when >>> element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: >>> Hello Nicolai, Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with my braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get to the beginning of the next message instead. I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real soon and probbably write the pathfinder as well t
Re: realspeak voices on the mac
Hi, As far as I know, they are not. Guess you could contact them and ask them if they are considering making the voices for the Mac as well. I prefer Samantha if I use Windows. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:56 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has the > iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also > available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating > system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices > will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a > lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
realspeak voices on the mac
Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has the iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe operating system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak voices will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is used a lot on dutch windows systems by blind people. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
url: alternative voices for the mac
Hello, I forgot the website where you can buy different language voices for the mac. Someone in nl wants to know what voices you can use with the mac but since I dont use speech often and have my system and programs mail and internet in English I dont know much about it. Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: addition to webrotor
Hi, Hmm. The Safari not responding is definitely interesting. I haven't try the link for the game you play, but I felt compelled to try it so I might go look it up again. As for Safari not always showing you the things the way you want them. Keep in mind they're of course two different browsers, and will sometimes present things differently than the way it is done in Windows, or even by your screen reader. I'd like to point out here that, though Safari works very well for me, it is not capable of showing everything such as song titles and so-forth on some web pages for radio stations. This is not a limitation to the Mac or VoiceOver, however because the developer might have chosen to use an ActiveX control. This is most likely the case on other pages as well. It's at least something to consider. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:47 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate > webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser because > some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i use > dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because they > are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One > problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the second > occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only > shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc > and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on > the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages > with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall > surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is > still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all. > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Anouk, >> >> Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you >> probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are >> endless. >> >> The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on what >> you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to the >> search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know >> pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the >> worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I >> have done it a bit more often > >> part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once >> you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the >> window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in >> them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading >> the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to >> go to the next instance. >> >> If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, simply >> press the back space once to clear the entry and type something else. >> >> It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when >> element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Nicolai, >>> Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web >>> everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item >>> chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search >>> for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me >>> within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with >>> my >>> braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it >>> does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the >>> currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get >>> to the beginning of the next message instead. >>> I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as >>> possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real >>> soon >>> and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program >>> can >>> be improved. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
Hi, I definitely like it. If you're not familiar with an iphone, the trackpad is definitely a good assistant if you're planning to obtain one. It's probably just the positioning of your fingers, really. I haven't had an issue, but you have to be rather accurate with the gestures. Doesn't seem like a mistake to me. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Yeh, I'm so fast with the keyboard that it is really chafing me to > relearn on the track pad. It seems to me that there's an accuracey or > sensativity level that's not quite right. It mistakes a router turn > for a pinch closed sometimes and makes other mistakes as we... So, > I'm getting the feel of it slowly but I'm still not very happy. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi Erik, >> >> Odd that the checkbox doesn't change. I don't turn speech off on my >> iphone much, so have never checked that out. Anyway, glad this >> helped. >> >> You know, it's funny. When SL came out, I was really excited about >> the trackpad commander. But I stopped using it almost immediately, >> because it seemed I was always making things happen that I didn't >> want >> to, moving the cursor, opening windows, etc. My arms tend to rest on >> the front part of the Macbook, so when I was typing they would move >> across the trackpad, initiating various and sundry events. I haven't >> used the trackpad since shortly after I installed SL. I may give it >> another try someday, but for the moment I've decided it's easier to >> stick to the keyboard. >> >> Good luck, and let me know how it goes. >> Take care, >> Donna >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted >>> my >>> speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in >>> voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. >>> Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using >>> the trackpad. >>> >>> Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at >>> least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. >>> >>> Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi Erik, The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. If it does, you know what's causing your problem. Best, Donna On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I > can't > get it to do much. > > One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute > speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't > begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here > and > so > all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone > for > me when using the braille display. > > The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just > cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops > talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute > check > box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still > get > no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to > voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. > If I > make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech > comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo > volume are turned down. > > Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the > last 3 > days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it > is > starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. > Unfortunately I > might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while > yet > and see if I can make it happen. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > >> > > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message
Re: switching
would have never thought of you as a mac switcher :) On 4 Nov 2009, at 15:19, Daniel Rowe wrote: > > Hi all. > I have decided to take the plunge and get a mac either this or next > week > and have a few questions. > > I use firefox on windows, and have amassed a good number of bookmarks > over the years. Recently I've started using an extension called > xmarks, which basically syncs your bookmarks and now saved passwords > with an online server. This allows you to recover them when you do a > fresh install or whatever. The reason I'm mentioning this is that > they > have released a Version that is compatible with safari under sl. Has > anyone used Xmarks on the mac and is it accessible at all? I want to > make the switching over process as painless as possible and would hate > to re-add all my bookmarks and things manually. There's also a > version > for IE by the way. > > Secondly, for those of you living in Europe, how accessible is spotify > on the mac? I imagine because of how VO works that it would be far > more > usable than it is under windows with jfw. > > Finally, I just want to say that I absolutely love the item > chooser. I > haven't had much chance to use SL and the web rotor but it's amazing > how > quick it is to jump around webpages just using the item chooser. It's > one of those things that you'd think that should have been around in > windows screen readers for years. Also the fact that it's available > anywhere is fantastic. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
Hi, You know what is totally cool about the trackpad? I'm sure the iPhone can do the same, since it's the same technology. I accidentally laid the length of my entire finger across the trackpad, and I got a triple finger tap. It was difficult to duplicate, though, since my fingers are slender and long, but if I position my finger just right and tap, I get a three finger tap. I had fun doing that. I guess that would probably cause some undesired effect, as well. I can even do the pinch open and close gestures with one finger. Don't know how, though, and that's the hardest part to do. In fact, I end up doing it accidentally but only using one finger. Not really useful information, but thought I'd share it, since that's what might be causing some issues for some people. :) Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > Odd that the checkbox doesn't change. I don't turn speech off on my > iphone much, so have never checked that out. Anyway, glad this > helped. > > You know, it's funny. When SL came out, I was really excited about > the trackpad commander. But I stopped using it almost immediately, > because it seemed I was always making things happen that I didn't want > to, moving the cursor, opening windows, etc. My arms tend to rest on > the front part of the Macbook, so when I was typing they would move > across the trackpad, initiating various and sundry events. I haven't > used the trackpad since shortly after I installed SL. I may give it > another try someday, but for the moment I've decided it's easier to > stick to the keyboard. > > Good luck, and let me know how it goes. > Take care, > Donna > On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted >> my >> speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in >> voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. >> Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using >> the trackpad. >> >> Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at >> least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. >> >> Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Erik, >>> >>> The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with >>> three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did >>> this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try >>> doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. >>> If it does, you know what's causing your problem. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't get it to do much. One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and so all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone for me when using the braille display. The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute check box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo volume are turned down. Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet and see if I can make it happen. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@
Re: apple warranty
I agree entirely about the major difference in hardware quality and, remember, I just bought a MacBook Pro 13 for $1199 and feel every dollar is well worth it. Again, it's the Ferrari, an Enzo is built by hand with hand tooled parts with tolerances far in excessive of a Miata or other consumer sports car. If you want the best hardware, you pay for it. I was trying to illustrate that, for task oriented buyers, the Ferarri may be nice but the Ford fits the budget better. On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:14 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > While I agree with you that there's no way the average user can > consume the kind of processer power built into even the meaneest cheep > laptop, I have to point out the flaw in your comparison, which is > this. a $500 dell vostro does not compare to a $1300 macbook standard > in turms of the quality of the hardware. The construction of the > vostro is cheep plastic. The board in those models is going to be > built with non-resyclable plastic conponants. Cheeper capasaters, > cheeper heat dicipation, cheeper cabling and soddring inside. They > may have the same ram capasity and processer speed. The $500 vostro > may be a little lower not so as you'd notice, but the componants and > construction of a macbook standard are miles ahead of the vostro. In > the long term you could reasonably go out and buy a macbook standard > with apple care for about $1600 and have it last for at least 3 > years. Or, you could buy a $500 Dell vostro a year for $500 per year, > and pay $1500. Would that give you the quality of service, support, > uptime, convenience, and so on that $1600 on a mac standard would? I > don't know. Many people say Yes it would. I lean towards no it > wouldn't, and I've worked on a fare few computers from a lot of > different companies in the last 7 or 8 years or so. > > Perhapse a better comparison would be a macbook pro or standard to a > dell studio spx 1640. This model is priced about half way in between > the macbook pro and macbook standard. It is an elegantly constructed > machine with all metal and aluminum componants. It possibly has a bit > more under the hood than the mac hardware, including a blue ray drive > which comes standard. You can tell just by looking at it and using it > that the quality is a cut above. Superb sound, high comfort keybordd, > great quality jacks and sockets, nice heat dicipation, great feature > set... You could seriously buy one of these and be proud to own it > and show it off.Don't even get me started on the $2500 hp 8710 's > that one company was selling last year, or the $1800 toshiba fisher > price toy I'm training on now that has noting under the hood and is > built like an enourmous plastic paving stone left out in the sun. At > least the hp ones came with a $400 on site service contract, and we > could prove directly to a person that they were a piece of crap. When > comparing high end notebooks to eachother, Macbooks more than hold > their own on price, quality and service. > > Best, > > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 9:28 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> When looking at compute power, one needs to consider what the users >> need at home, school and work. The fact of the matter is that a >> brand >> new laptop from Apple, Dell, HP, etc. probably have an incredibly >> overpowered CPU for the requirements of the typical user. >> >> The Core 2 in my new MacBook Pro is a dual core, 64 bit, absolutely >> screaming fast processor. How do I use it? Well, I do a lot of >> email, use TextEdit and, on occasion, iWork to write articles, >> proposals and the like, I look at web sites for fun and research, I >> use Skype, I do the odd bit of budgetting kind of work in a >> spreadsheet program and I write and compile computer programs with >> the >> Apple development environment. Thus, almost all I do is either type, >> listen or talk - none of which require a whole lot of compute power >> and I probably leave the overwhelmingly large number of cycles >> unused. Just three years ago, this laptop would have been used by >> people who do serious number crunching, genetic research, deep data >> mining, astronomy, etc. Now, they can get the Mac Pro with something >> like 8 cores for about $7000 and have the equivalent of a 10 year old >> multi-million dollar super computer. >> >> So, the consumer market has created a commodity pricing >> infrastructure >> because their current computer probably does everything they want >> reasonably well. Macintosh is, in many people's eyes, a luxury item. >> It's the Ferarri of personal computers - fast, sleek, pretty and a >> joy >> to drive; on the other hand, one pays a serious premium for the Apple >> products but, in my opinion at least, it's quite worthwhile. Others, >> though, may use the same sort of programs I u
Re: addition to webrotor
Hello, No i use snowie. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > DO you use Leopard? When I used Leopard, I had issues with VO-F as > well in Safari. In SNow Leopard for me, though, it works nicely. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello Nicolai, >> Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web >> everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item >> chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search >> for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me >> within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with my >> braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it >> does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the >> currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get >> to the beginning of the next message instead. >> I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as >> possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real soon >> and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program >> can >> be improved. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
While I agree with you that there's no way the average user can consume the kind of processer power built into even the meaneest cheep laptop, I have to point out the flaw in your comparison, which is this. a $500 dell vostro does not compare to a $1300 macbook standard in turms of the quality of the hardware. The construction of the vostro is cheep plastic. The board in those models is going to be built with non-resyclable plastic conponants. Cheeper capasaters, cheeper heat dicipation, cheeper cabling and soddring inside. They may have the same ram capasity and processer speed. The $500 vostro may be a little lower not so as you'd notice, but the componants and construction of a macbook standard are miles ahead of the vostro. In the long term you could reasonably go out and buy a macbook standard with apple care for about $1600 and have it last for at least 3 years. Or, you could buy a $500 Dell vostro a year for $500 per year, and pay $1500. Would that give you the quality of service, support, uptime, convenience, and so on that $1600 on a mac standard would? I don't know. Many people say Yes it would. I lean towards no it wouldn't, and I've worked on a fare few computers from a lot of different companies in the last 7 or 8 years or so. Perhapse a better comparison would be a macbook pro or standard to a dell studio spx 1640. This model is priced about half way in between the macbook pro and macbook standard. It is an elegantly constructed machine with all metal and aluminum componants. It possibly has a bit more under the hood than the mac hardware, including a blue ray drive which comes standard. You can tell just by looking at it and using it that the quality is a cut above. Superb sound, high comfort keybordd, great quality jacks and sockets, nice heat dicipation, great feature set... You could seriously buy one of these and be proud to own it and show it off.Don't even get me started on the $2500 hp 8710 's that one company was selling last year, or the $1800 toshiba fisher price toy I'm training on now that has noting under the hood and is built like an enourmous plastic paving stone left out in the sun. At least the hp ones came with a $400 on site service contract, and we could prove directly to a person that they were a piece of crap. When comparing high end notebooks to eachother, Macbooks more than hold their own on price, quality and service. Best, Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 9:28 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > Hi, > > When looking at compute power, one needs to consider what the users > need at home, school and work. The fact of the matter is that a brand > new laptop from Apple, Dell, HP, etc. probably have an incredibly > overpowered CPU for the requirements of the typical user. > > The Core 2 in my new MacBook Pro is a dual core, 64 bit, absolutely > screaming fast processor. How do I use it? Well, I do a lot of > email, use TextEdit and, on occasion, iWork to write articles, > proposals and the like, I look at web sites for fun and research, I > use Skype, I do the odd bit of budgetting kind of work in a > spreadsheet program and I write and compile computer programs with the > Apple development environment. Thus, almost all I do is either type, > listen or talk - none of which require a whole lot of compute power > and I probably leave the overwhelmingly large number of cycles > unused. Just three years ago, this laptop would have been used by > people who do serious number crunching, genetic research, deep data > mining, astronomy, etc. Now, they can get the Mac Pro with something > like 8 cores for about $7000 and have the equivalent of a 10 year old > multi-million dollar super computer. > > So, the consumer market has created a commodity pricing infrastructure > because their current computer probably does everything they want > reasonably well. Macintosh is, in many people's eyes, a luxury item. > It's the Ferarri of personal computers - fast, sleek, pretty and a joy > to drive; on the other hand, one pays a serious premium for the Apple > products but, in my opinion at least, it's quite worthwhile. Others, > though, may use the same sort of programs I use and not find any need > to upgrade as no one can type so fast that they can exceed current low > end processor capacity, let alone the high end stuff. > > People with vision impairment are a special case as Windows systems > require adding third party access technology which changes the pricing > model as suddenly the $600 Dell laptop costs $1700 to use with JAWS > while a MacBook 13 plastic costs $999 and includes an excellent screen > reader. In my mind, Macintosh, for the vast majority of users with > vision impairment provides the best price/performance in the biz today > but adoption, for a number of v
Re: addition to webrotor
Safari is wicked slow at handling frames. If you can get in to group mode though, that will take care of any issues you are having with tables. For example. There is a web site called tape trader where fans trade their recordings of live conserts. When you do a search or look at some ones list of shows in dom mode, the dates don't show up anywhere. All of the other info is available, and you can check the shows you want, but you cant get the date with VO, which is the most important piece of the puzzle. By switching to group mode, I guess it takes the date out of the check box column where it shows up on windows and gives it its own column. So you can cruze the dates very easily and check the one you want. Only two problems I've found with group mode. It does tend to slow browsing down a bit, and safari is not known for being greesed lightning to begin with in my experience. Also, your adium chats won't display properly in group mode, a situation which I very much hope will be fixed at some point because group mode is my friend and I'd like to keep him with me always. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 9:47 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate > webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser because > some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i use > dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because they > are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One > problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the second > occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only > shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc > and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on > the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages > with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall > surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is > still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all. > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Anouk, >> >> Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you >> probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are >> endless. >> >> The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on what >> you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to the >> search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know >> pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the >> worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I >> have done it a bit more often > >> part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once >> you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the >> window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in >> them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading >> the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to >> go to the next instance. >> >> If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, simply >> press the back space once to clear the entry and type something else. >> >> It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when >> element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Nicolai, >>> Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web >>> everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item >>> chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search >>> for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me >>> within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with >>> my >>> braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it >>> does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the >>> currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get >>> to the beginning of the next message instead. >>> I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as >>> possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real >>> soon >>> and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program >>> can >>> be improved. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.
Re: apple warranty
Hi Anouk, I am a training consultant. I work for 3 access technology resellers and a lot of private clients providing training on computers, opperating systems, screen readers and braille displays, reading aids, voice recongnition, GPS solutions, notetaking devices... Anything that needs doing basicly. I Officially support about 20-30 pieces of access technology including 5 screen readers, 3 or 4 braille displays, both K1000 and openbook and so forth and so on. It's not usually as overwelming a job as it sounds, but it is challenging on ocasion, busy often, interesting at times, and it is starting to pay the bills now that I've been doing it for almost two years. Ocasionally I get a new toy. I bought my mobile speak and mobile geo on company discount but they basicly gave me the mobile phone to run it all on so that I could go out and do demo's for them on the side. So it's got it's perks that way too. Sometimes I do consulting for people who are buying new equipment, show them kit and tell them what some of the advantages and disadvantages are and help them buy systems and access tech. That's really cool because I get to take care of them from start to finish and make sure they are happy with what they got. When I sit down with some one for the first time, they invariabley ask what I thinkg of their equipment. At that point it's a bit late to discourage them if they bought something they shouldn't have, but I can always find something uplifting to say, even if it is a bit awkward. Yeh,, so I complain about my job a lot, but at the end of the day, it really suits the hell out of me, and now that I'm getting good at it, I'm enjoying it not too bad. Have fun, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 9:41 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, well because laptops are so differently priced 3 years warranty > is not enforced here I think, another problem is that of course macs > are even more costly then they already are in the states because I > think they must literally translate that dollar price into euros. But, > imho especially the mac pros and macbook pros should at least come > with 3 years warranty on parts. > Out of curiosity and ot: What work do you do? > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:27 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi anouk, >> >> We have some of these similar problems here with our equipment >> funding. Unfortunately the nature of the computer market is this. >> The average consumer wants to spend as little as possible on a >> computer, even if that means they will be buying a new computer >> once a >> year. Consumers who want a high end computer that will last them 3 >> years are a niche market. This is especially when you consider that >> businesses who buy in bulk take the mass market approach. Those guys >> are even worse. Sure, They may buy 1000 computers every year or two, >> But they want to get a $600 computer for $400, and they still want >> fat >> warrantees on them. When you build things cheep to undercut the >> other >> guys so you can sell more units and kater to the market, you get >> oodles of breakdowns and have to spend a bundle on service if you >> cant >> convince the buyer to just go out and get a new one. >> >> People like us who want well built systems to last us absorb the cost >> of servicing the cheep laptops. This is much the same principal as >> voiceover. Every one who buys a mac contributes to the development >> of >> voiceover, even though %95 of mac users have no infernal use for it >> what-so-ever. >> >> There is not a company here in north america who has a standard >> laptop >> warrantee longer than one year, for all the reasons stated above. >> Even Asus, which puts 3 years standard on it's desktop componants and >> builds superb quality laptops here, only provides one year on their >> laptop systems. So our funding has to last for 5 years. The best >> warrantee we can do is 3 years. And we will be lucky if we still >> have >> a nice computer at the end of the day because they are just built >> cheep. It's a real tough situation for resellers and funding >> authorizers, and it's terribly frustrating for clients. >> >> Here in North America, Apple is pretty competative with products lit >> dell studio and some of the mid range asus stuff. The real money >> saver of an apple is the bsiness of not having to provide a screen >> reader. Unfortunately we're duel booting windows on these products >> and providing jaws or window-eyes any way because many of our people >> already have so much money invested that they don't want to just >> ditch >> their abominably high priced windows kit. So that kind'a defeats the >> purpose a bit but it will get there. >> >> Best, >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...
Re: addition to webrotor
Hi, DO you use Leopard? When I used Leopard, I had issues with VO-F as well in Safari. In SNow Leopard for me, though, it works nicely. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello Nicolai, > Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web > everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item > chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search > for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me > within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with my > braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it > does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the > currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get > to the beginning of the next message instead. > I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as > possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real soon > and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program can > be improved. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
I'm mostly a research bum. I work on projects at universities that are big on being interesting but poor on the pay scale. I don't need a salary so I can afford to just do cool stuff which is a fun way to live. On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:41 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, well because laptops are so differently priced 3 years warranty > is not enforced here I think, another problem is that of course macs > are even more costly then they already are in the states because I > think they must literally translate that dollar price into euros. But, > imho especially the mac pros and macbook pros should at least come > with 3 years warranty on parts. > Out of curiosity and ot: What work do you do? > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:27 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi anouk, >> >> We have some of these similar problems here with our equipment >> funding. Unfortunately the nature of the computer market is this. >> The average consumer wants to spend as little as possible on a >> computer, even if that means they will be buying a new computer >> once a >> year. Consumers who want a high end computer that will last them 3 >> years are a niche market. This is especially when you consider that >> businesses who buy in bulk take the mass market approach. Those guys >> are even worse. Sure, They may buy 1000 computers every year or two, >> But they want to get a $600 computer for $400, and they still want >> fat >> warrantees on them. When you build things cheep to undercut the >> other >> guys so you can sell more units and kater to the market, you get >> oodles of breakdowns and have to spend a bundle on service if you >> cant >> convince the buyer to just go out and get a new one. >> >> People like us who want well built systems to last us absorb the cost >> of servicing the cheep laptops. This is much the same principal as >> voiceover. Every one who buys a mac contributes to the development >> of >> voiceover, even though %95 of mac users have no infernal use for it >> what-so-ever. >> >> There is not a company here in north america who has a standard >> laptop >> warrantee longer than one year, for all the reasons stated above. >> Even Asus, which puts 3 years standard on it's desktop componants and >> builds superb quality laptops here, only provides one year on their >> laptop systems. So our funding has to last for 5 years. The best >> warrantee we can do is 3 years. And we will be lucky if we still >> have >> a nice computer at the end of the day because they are just built >> cheep. It's a real tough situation for resellers and funding >> authorizers, and it's terribly frustrating for clients. >> >> Here in North America, Apple is pretty competative with products lit >> dell studio and some of the mid range asus stuff. The real money >> saver of an apple is the bsiness of not having to provide a screen >> reader. Unfortunately we're duel booting windows on these products >> and providing jaws or window-eyes any way because many of our people >> already have so much money invested that they don't want to just >> ditch >> their abominably high priced windows kit. So that kind'a defeats the >> purpose a bit but it will get there. >> >> Best, >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >>> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not >>> linked >>> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >>> about >>> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >>> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a >>> schoolgoing >>> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >>> braille >>> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the >>> state) >>> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >>> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home >>> use >>> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >>> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would >>> be a >>> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >>> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they >>> of >>> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >>> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >>> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >>> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >>> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >>> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >>> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >>> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >>> after 3 years
switching
Hi all. I have decided to take the plunge and get a mac either this or next week and have a few questions. I use firefox on windows, and have amassed a good number of bookmarks over the years. Recently I've started using an extension called xmarks, which basically syncs your bookmarks and now saved passwords with an online server. This allows you to recover them when you do a fresh install or whatever. The reason I'm mentioning this is that they have released a Version that is compatible with safari under sl. Has anyone used Xmarks on the mac and is it accessible at all? I want to make the switching over process as painless as possible and would hate to re-add all my bookmarks and things manually. There's also a version for IE by the way. Secondly, for those of you living in Europe, how accessible is spotify on the mac? I imagine because of how VO works that it would be far more usable than it is under windows with jfw. Finally, I just want to say that I absolutely love the item chooser. I haven't had much chance to use SL and the web rotor but it's amazing how quick it is to jump around webpages just using the item chooser. It's one of those things that you'd think that should have been around in windows screen readers for years. Also the fact that it's available anywhere is fantastic. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: addition to webrotor
Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser because some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i use dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because they are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the second occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Anouk, > > Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you > probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are > endless. > > The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on what > you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to the > search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know > pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the > worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I > have done it a bit more often > part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once > you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the > window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in > them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading > the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to > go to the next instance. > > If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, simply > press the back space once to clear the entry and type something else. > > It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when > element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello Nicolai, >> Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web >> everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item >> chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search >> for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me >> within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with my >> braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it >> does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the >> currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get >> to the beginning of the next message instead. >> I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as >> possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real soon >> and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program >> can >> be improved. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: alternative to finder
Hello, no this version was specefically made for sl. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:25 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > HUM, COULD IT BE THAT THIS HAS CHANGED SINCE SL? > > THE WORKFLOW OPENS UP IN FINDER JUST FINE. PRESSING COMMAND OPTION S > DOESN'T DO ANYTHING THOUGH AND THERE ISN'T A MENU OPTION FOR SAVE AS > FINDER PLUG IN. AFTER I OPEN MOVE.WORKFLOW AND PRESS COMMAND OPTION S > THEN CLOSE AUTOMATER I PRESSED VO SHIFT M TO BRING UP THE CONTEXT MENU > FOR AN ITEM I HAD SELECTED, BUT THERE WAS NO AUTOMATER OPTION AND > PRESSING LETTER U TOOK ME TO VIEW BY. I CHECKED THE FILE MENU IN > FINDER BUT IT'S NOT THERE EITHER. JUST TO BE THOROUGH I DID A CHECK > OF ALL THE OTHER MENUS IN FINDER AND GOT NOTHIN. > I must be missing something. > > Thanks for the tip though. If I can get it working I'll be a very > happy guy. > > Best, > > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-03, at 3:33 PM, Esther wrote: > >> >> Hi Erik, >> >> If you have Greg Kearney's move.workflow, just open it in Automator >> (the default), and use Command-Option-S to save it as a plug-in for >> FInder. Then it just shows up as another menu item in the Finder >> contextual menu. I select files or folders, use VO-Shift-M to bring >> up the contextual menu, press "a u" to go to the Automator option and >> right arrow to the submenu. If there's only one saved plug-in that >> automatically selects the "Move" plug-in, and I press return. >> Otherwise, I arrow down or press "m" to navigate to "Move". The >> Finder dialogue window will appear and you just navigate to or select >> the folder you want to move to, which can be on another hard drive, >> USB memory key, etc. All your files are automatically moved to the >> new location. >> >> I would have suggested this to Anouk, but the original web site that >> hosted Greg's scripts is no longer available now that he has moved to >> Australia. I think there's still a post in the archives about where >> to find the script in his MobileMe public iDisk, but I can't bring up >> the Mail Archive site to search for it right now. >> >> HTH >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Anouk >>> >>> It's always driven me a little bit crazy not to be able to move >>> files.. I have a lot of data and the fact of haveing to wait for >>> minutes or even hours to copy files when I could move them in >>> seconds >>> is sheer assinine stupidity. So I got something called >>> move.workflow >>> which is supposted to let you move files in stead of copying them in >>> finder. I don't know how to use workflows though, and never have >>> figured out how to get the thing to do what I want. It can be done >>> though I'm sure. >>> >>> I prefer having all the items in my explorer sorted by alphabet >>> personally. It makes it much easier to get to any file or folder by >>> pressing it's first few letters. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2009-11-03, at 8:50 AM, anouk radix wrote: >>> Hello everyone. I just read the apple help shortcut section but I cant find anything about selecting files, i can select one files or all the files in a directory but i cannot find how I can select a few files to copy, also I dont like the fact that finder does not show directories before showing individual files. Is there a finder alternative that works with snow leopard and allows you to select files that you can then move to a different directory and delete them from the original path? It would also b enice if it could show directories before files. I am planning to call apple support later today to ask them if there is a command for selecting files but I dont think they will know the answer. Greetings, Anouk, > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Hello, well because laptops are so differently priced 3 years warranty is not enforced here I think, another problem is that of course macs are even more costly then they already are in the states because I think they must literally translate that dollar price into euros. But, imho especially the mac pros and macbook pros should at least come with 3 years warranty on parts. Out of curiosity and ot: What work do you do? Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:27 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi anouk, > > We have some of these similar problems here with our equipment > funding. Unfortunately the nature of the computer market is this. > The average consumer wants to spend as little as possible on a > computer, even if that means they will be buying a new computer once a > year. Consumers who want a high end computer that will last them 3 > years are a niche market. This is especially when you consider that > businesses who buy in bulk take the mass market approach. Those guys > are even worse. Sure, They may buy 1000 computers every year or two, > But they want to get a $600 computer for $400, and they still want fat > warrantees on them. When you build things cheep to undercut the other > guys so you can sell more units and kater to the market, you get > oodles of breakdowns and have to spend a bundle on service if you cant > convince the buyer to just go out and get a new one. > > People like us who want well built systems to last us absorb the cost > of servicing the cheep laptops. This is much the same principal as > voiceover. Every one who buys a mac contributes to the development of > voiceover, even though %95 of mac users have no infernal use for it > what-so-ever. > > There is not a company here in north america who has a standard laptop > warrantee longer than one year, for all the reasons stated above. > Even Asus, which puts 3 years standard on it's desktop componants and > builds superb quality laptops here, only provides one year on their > laptop systems. So our funding has to last for 5 years. The best > warrantee we can do is 3 years. And we will be lucky if we still have > a nice computer at the end of the day because they are just built > cheep. It's a real tough situation for resellers and funding > authorizers, and it's terribly frustrating for clients. > > Here in North America, Apple is pretty competative with products lit > dell studio and some of the mid range asus stuff. The real money > saver of an apple is the bsiness of not having to provide a screen > reader. Unfortunately we're duel booting windows on these products > and providing jaws or window-eyes any way because many of our people > already have so much money invested that they don't want to just ditch > their abominably high priced windows kit. So that kind'a defeats the > purpose a bit but it will get there. > > Best, > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked >> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >> about >> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing >> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >> braille >> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) >> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use >> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a >> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of >> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new >> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common >> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty >> so that has to be included in the total price. >> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year >> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST >> 2 years warranty as standar
Re: apple warranty
Hi, When looking at compute power, one needs to consider what the users need at home, school and work. The fact of the matter is that a brand new laptop from Apple, Dell, HP, etc. probably have an incredibly overpowered CPU for the requirements of the typical user. The Core 2 in my new MacBook Pro is a dual core, 64 bit, absolutely screaming fast processor. How do I use it? Well, I do a lot of email, use TextEdit and, on occasion, iWork to write articles, proposals and the like, I look at web sites for fun and research, I use Skype, I do the odd bit of budgetting kind of work in a spreadsheet program and I write and compile computer programs with the Apple development environment. Thus, almost all I do is either type, listen or talk - none of which require a whole lot of compute power and I probably leave the overwhelmingly large number of cycles unused. Just three years ago, this laptop would have been used by people who do serious number crunching, genetic research, deep data mining, astronomy, etc. Now, they can get the Mac Pro with something like 8 cores for about $7000 and have the equivalent of a 10 year old multi-million dollar super computer. So, the consumer market has created a commodity pricing infrastructure because their current computer probably does everything they want reasonably well. Macintosh is, in many people's eyes, a luxury item. It's the Ferarri of personal computers - fast, sleek, pretty and a joy to drive; on the other hand, one pays a serious premium for the Apple products but, in my opinion at least, it's quite worthwhile. Others, though, may use the same sort of programs I use and not find any need to upgrade as no one can type so fast that they can exceed current low end processor capacity, let alone the high end stuff. People with vision impairment are a special case as Windows systems require adding third party access technology which changes the pricing model as suddenly the $600 Dell laptop costs $1700 to use with JAWS while a MacBook 13 plastic costs $999 and includes an excellent screen reader. In my mind, Macintosh, for the vast majority of users with vision impairment provides the best price/performance in the biz today but adoption, for a number of very sensible fiscal reasons, will be slow among institutional buyers. Happy Hacking, cdh On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi anouk, > > We have some of these similar problems here with our equipment > funding. Unfortunately the nature of the computer market is this. > The average consumer wants to spend as little as possible on a > computer, even if that means they will be buying a new computer once a > year. Consumers who want a high end computer that will last them 3 > years are a niche market. This is especially when you consider that > businesses who buy in bulk take the mass market approach. Those guys > are even worse. Sure, They may buy 1000 computers every year or two, > But they want to get a $600 computer for $400, and they still want fat > warrantees on them. When you build things cheep to undercut the other > guys so you can sell more units and kater to the market, you get > oodles of breakdowns and have to spend a bundle on service if you cant > convince the buyer to just go out and get a new one. > > People like us who want well built systems to last us absorb the cost > of servicing the cheep laptops. This is much the same principal as > voiceover. Every one who buys a mac contributes to the development of > voiceover, even though %95 of mac users have no infernal use for it > what-so-ever. > > There is not a company here in north america who has a standard laptop > warrantee longer than one year, for all the reasons stated above. > Even Asus, which puts 3 years standard on it's desktop componants and > builds superb quality laptops here, only provides one year on their > laptop systems. So our funding has to last for 5 years. The best > warrantee we can do is 3 years. And we will be lucky if we still have > a nice computer at the end of the day because they are just built > cheep. It's a real tough situation for resellers and funding > authorizers, and it's terribly frustrating for clients. > > Here in North America, Apple is pretty competative with products lit > dell studio and some of the mid range asus stuff. The real money > saver of an apple is the bsiness of not having to provide a screen > reader. Unfortunately we're duel booting windows on these products > and providing jaws or window-eyes any way because many of our people > already have so much money invested that they don't want to just ditch > their abominably high priced windows kit. So that kind'a defeats the > purpose a bit but it will get there. > > Best, > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-04, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote
Re: speech muting
Yeh, I'm so fast with the keyboard that it is really chafing me to relearn on the track pad. It seems to me that there's an accuracey or sensativity level that's not quite right. It mistakes a router turn for a pinch closed sometimes and makes other mistakes as we... So, I'm getting the feel of it slowly but I'm still not very happy. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > Odd that the checkbox doesn't change. I don't turn speech off on my > iphone much, so have never checked that out. Anyway, glad this > helped. > > You know, it's funny. When SL came out, I was really excited about > the trackpad commander. But I stopped using it almost immediately, > because it seemed I was always making things happen that I didn't want > to, moving the cursor, opening windows, etc. My arms tend to rest on > the front part of the Macbook, so when I was typing they would move > across the trackpad, initiating various and sundry events. I haven't > used the trackpad since shortly after I installed SL. I may give it > another try someday, but for the moment I've decided it's easier to > stick to the keyboard. > > Good luck, and let me know how it goes. > Take care, > Donna > On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted >> my >> speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in >> voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. >> Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using >> the trackpad. >> >> Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at >> least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. >> >> Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Erik, >>> >>> The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with >>> three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did >>> this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try >>> doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. >>> If it does, you know what's causing your problem. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't get it to do much. One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and so all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone for me when using the braille display. The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute check box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo volume are turned down. Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet and see if I can make it happen. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
Hi Erik, Odd that the checkbox doesn't change. I don't turn speech off on my iphone much, so have never checked that out. Anyway, glad this helped. You know, it's funny. When SL came out, I was really excited about the trackpad commander. But I stopped using it almost immediately, because it seemed I was always making things happen that I didn't want to, moving the cursor, opening windows, etc. My arms tend to rest on the front part of the Macbook, so when I was typing they would move across the trackpad, initiating various and sundry events. I haven't used the trackpad since shortly after I installed SL. I may give it another try someday, but for the moment I've decided it's easier to stick to the keyboard. Good luck, and let me know how it goes. Take care, Donna On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted my > speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in > voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. > Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using > the trackpad. > > Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at > least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. > > Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ certified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi Erik, >> >> The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with >> three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did >> this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try >> doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. >> If it does, you know what's causing your problem. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I >>> can't >>> get it to do much. >>> >>> One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute >>> speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't >>> begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and >>> so >>> all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone >>> for >>> me when using the braille display. >>> >>> The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just >>> cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops >>> talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute >>> check >>> box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get >>> no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to >>> voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. >>> If I >>> make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech >>> comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo >>> volume are turned down. >>> >>> Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 >>> days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is >>> starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I >>> might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while >>> yet >>> and see if I can make it happen. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Hi anouk, We have some of these similar problems here with our equipment funding. Unfortunately the nature of the computer market is this. The average consumer wants to spend as little as possible on a computer, even if that means they will be buying a new computer once a year. Consumers who want a high end computer that will last them 3 years are a niche market. This is especially when you consider that businesses who buy in bulk take the mass market approach. Those guys are even worse. Sure, They may buy 1000 computers every year or two, But they want to get a $600 computer for $400, and they still want fat warrantees on them. When you build things cheep to undercut the other guys so you can sell more units and kater to the market, you get oodles of breakdowns and have to spend a bundle on service if you cant convince the buyer to just go out and get a new one. People like us who want well built systems to last us absorb the cost of servicing the cheep laptops. This is much the same principal as voiceover. Every one who buys a mac contributes to the development of voiceover, even though %95 of mac users have no infernal use for it what-so-ever. There is not a company here in north america who has a standard laptop warrantee longer than one year, for all the reasons stated above. Even Asus, which puts 3 years standard on it's desktop componants and builds superb quality laptops here, only provides one year on their laptop systems. So our funding has to last for 5 years. The best warrantee we can do is 3 years. And we will be lucky if we still have a nice computer at the end of the day because they are just built cheep. It's a real tough situation for resellers and funding authorizers, and it's terribly frustrating for clients. Here in North America, Apple is pretty competative with products lit dell studio and some of the mid range asus stuff. The real money saver of an apple is the bsiness of not having to provide a screen reader. Unfortunately we're duel booting windows on these products and providing jaws or window-eyes any way because many of our people already have so much money invested that they don't want to just ditch their abominably high priced windows kit. So that kind'a defeats the purpose a bit but it will get there. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display > developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked > to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking about > how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille > display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing > child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a braille > display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) > if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a > screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use > you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really > beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a > lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom > scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of > course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the > free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and > maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to > write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. > apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most > importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price > to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you > have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, > after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new > braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common > practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty > so that has to be included in the total price. > I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year > of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST > 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: alternative to finder
HUM, COULD IT BE THAT THIS HAS CHANGED SINCE SL? THE WORKFLOW OPENS UP IN FINDER JUST FINE. PRESSING COMMAND OPTION S DOESN'T DO ANYTHING THOUGH AND THERE ISN'T A MENU OPTION FOR SAVE AS FINDER PLUG IN. AFTER I OPEN MOVE.WORKFLOW AND PRESS COMMAND OPTION S THEN CLOSE AUTOMATER I PRESSED VO SHIFT M TO BRING UP THE CONTEXT MENU FOR AN ITEM I HAD SELECTED, BUT THERE WAS NO AUTOMATER OPTION AND PRESSING LETTER U TOOK ME TO VIEW BY. I CHECKED THE FILE MENU IN FINDER BUT IT'S NOT THERE EITHER. JUST TO BE THOROUGH I DID A CHECK OF ALL THE OTHER MENUS IN FINDER AND GOT NOTHIN. I must be missing something. Thanks for the tip though. If I can get it working I'll be a very happy guy. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-03, at 3:33 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > If you have Greg Kearney's move.workflow, just open it in Automator > (the default), and use Command-Option-S to save it as a plug-in for > FInder. Then it just shows up as another menu item in the Finder > contextual menu. I select files or folders, use VO-Shift-M to bring > up the contextual menu, press "a u" to go to the Automator option and > right arrow to the submenu. If there's only one saved plug-in that > automatically selects the "Move" plug-in, and I press return. > Otherwise, I arrow down or press "m" to navigate to "Move". The > Finder dialogue window will appear and you just navigate to or select > the folder you want to move to, which can be on another hard drive, > USB memory key, etc. All your files are automatically moved to the > new location. > > I would have suggested this to Anouk, but the original web site that > hosted Greg's scripts is no longer available now that he has moved to > Australia. I think there's still a post in the archives about where > to find the script in his MobileMe public iDisk, but I can't bring up > the Mail Archive site to search for it right now. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi Anouk >> >> It's always driven me a little bit crazy not to be able to move >> files.. I have a lot of data and the fact of haveing to wait for >> minutes or even hours to copy files when I could move them in seconds >> is sheer assinine stupidity. So I got something called move.workflow >> which is supposted to let you move files in stead of copying them in >> finder. I don't know how to use workflows though, and never have >> figured out how to get the thing to do what I want. It can be done >> though I'm sure. >> >> I prefer having all the items in my explorer sorted by alphabet >> personally. It makes it much easier to get to any file or folder by >> pressing it's first few letters. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-03, at 8:50 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello everyone. I just read the apple help shortcut section but I >>> cant >>> find anything about selecting files, i can select one files or all >>> the >>> files in a directory but i cannot find how I can select a few files >>> to >>> copy, also I dont like the fact that finder does not show >>> directories >>> before showing individual files. Is there a finder alternative that >>> works with snow leopard and allows you to select files that you can >>> then move to a different directory and delete them from the original >>> path? It would also b enice if it could show directories before >>> files. >>> I am planning to call apple support later today to ask them if there >>> is a command for selecting files but I dont think they will know the >>> answer. >>> Greetings, Anouk, >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: addition to webrotor
Anouk, Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are endless. The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on what you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to the search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to go to the next instance. If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, simply press the back space once to clear the entry and type something else. It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello Nicolai, > Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web > everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item > chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search > for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me > within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with my > braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it > does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the > currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get > to the beginning of the next message instead. > I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as > possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real soon > and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program can > be improved. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: finding files in finder
This is why I like having everything sorted by alphabet. Using your example, when sorted by albhabet all of the beach boys material is together, and the beachboys folder is at the top of the list. So you hit bea and there you are on the beach boys folder where you can now arrow down and highlighght beachboys files. then you can just go back up to the beach boys folder and paste them in. It's a lot nicer having files and folders grouped together IMHO. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-03, at 11:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hellom, I have now sorted files by kind but now it is a bit difficult > to find files with a certain name if you have directories that also > use that name. The files come first in the list but if I type part of > a name then fidner immediately jumps to the directory and I cant go > tot he file that has that name because it will only announce the > directory. For example I have a directory called beach boys but also > individual files that start with the words beach boys. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
Hi Donna, I just did the double tap 3 and yes it muted and unmuted my speech. The odd thing is, when I checked the mute speech setting in voiceover utility it was unchecked even though the speech was muted. Checking and unchecking the box does nothing if yu mute speech using the trackpad. Well I don't know how I keep managing to do this by accident, but at least thanks to you I know how to take care of it more easily. Now back to trying to make the rest of the track pad work... Sighs. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-03, at 11:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Erik, > > The gesture that turns off speech on the iphone is a double-tap with > three fingers. I know it seems unlikely, but is it possible you did > this by accident? It's a toggle, so the next time it happens, try > doing a three-finger double-tap, and see if speech starts up again. > If it does, you know what's causing your problem. > Best, > Donna > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't >> get it to do much. >> >> One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute >> speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't >> begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and >> so >> all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone >> for >> me when using the braille display. >> >> The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just >> cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops >> talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute >> check >> box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get >> no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to >> voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I >> make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech >> comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo >> volume are turned down. >> >> Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 >> days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is >> starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I >> might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet >> and see if I can make it happen. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Hello, Yes on the other hand you get a lot of support but I have no idea what the quality of that applecare support is for a voicover users, in the dutch apple stores there is no know how about voiceover and I bet Dutch support people dont know about it either. I will have to contact some of the distributors to at least inform them of the possibilities.Then they can go talk about it with the uwv because the uwv wont take notice if I as a person contact them. Greetings, Anouk, On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > Hi, > > Apple does sell extended warranty packages for its laptops and other > products. These are pretty expensive but are really excellent > service. > > I would bet that Apple would work out a bulk sale deal with your > blindness organization if they would enter negotiations. > Historically, Apple has done very well by school systems and other > large government distributions. It would be a publicity coup for them > if they could start selling to people with disabilities through the > various European government/insurance programs. > > As I like to say, "I paid the same for VO as I would have for JAWS but > they tossed in a really kick ass laptop for an extra $100!" > > Happy Macking, > cdh > > > On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display >> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked >> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking >> about >> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille >> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing >> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a >> braille >> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) >> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a >> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use >> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really >> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a >> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom >> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of >> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the >> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and >> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to >> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. >> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most >> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price >> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you >> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, >> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new >> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common >> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty >> so that has to be included in the total price. >> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year >> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST >> 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Hi Chris, You just mentioned about apple's exposure regarding educational bulk sales. I have just met with someone from the powers that be over here, who baught one license of Jaws for a school, and i spoke to him about how voice over comes packaged with a mac. Do you know if there is some sort of repository of old macs, a surplus store or simply a program advocated by apple for the distribution of Apple computers for these types of organizations? I'm asking because where i currently live, i have been working for 2 years nowon an educational/business model, helping disfavored people to access higher level professions, such as 3D and motion graphics. So far the model is working, and we have various individuals with various disabilities being productive on the visual coms industry. Fatefully, i lost my eyesight last year, and my scoff of my current situation is helping them understand about their potential even more than before. But lately, since i can't put my hands on the production itself, i have started finding new courses for the disabled, namely for blind individuals, and specifically screen readers. Have you got any addresses i can look into for these kind of non-for profit actions? This could immensely help the blind community here, which is, to say the least, extremely outcasted and shunned. Secondly, it would be a purpose for what has happened to me. To start with, these lists have saved me from total abandon of my activities, and i would be satisfied if i could just help some others here who don't have the same access as we do in Europe or other developed countries. Last but not least, having voice over already packed in leopard or sl is a major advantage if we consider older mac systems, and it basically nullifies the problems of licenses. Thanks, and best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple warranty
Hi, Apple does sell extended warranty packages for its laptops and other products. These are pretty expensive but are really excellent service. I would bet that Apple would work out a bulk sale deal with your blindness organization if they would enter negotiations. Historically, Apple has done very well by school systems and other large government distributions. It would be a publicity coup for them if they could start selling to people with disabilities through the various European government/insurance programs. As I like to say, "I paid the same for VO as I would have for JAWS but they tossed in a really kick ass laptop for an extra $100!" Happy Macking, cdh On Nov 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display > developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked > to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking about > how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille > display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing > child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a braille > display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) > if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a > screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use > you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really > beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a > lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom > scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of > course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the > free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and > maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to > write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. > apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most > importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price > to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you > have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, > after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new > braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common > practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty > so that has to be included in the total price. > I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year > of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST > 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
tape deck
Hi gang, Found a really cool little app: http://tapedeckapp.com/ Making podcasts has never been simpler, and the little click sounds of the tape deck are pure vintage pleasure. Best Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding a contact person to mac skype
Hello Nicolai, frown navigating programs with just my braille display is more difficult hten if I use speech apparently. In the future I guess I will have to use speech when navigating programs or certain features for the first time. I was trying to add a contact person whenonly using braille and no speech, when i tried it again while using speech I figured it out. Note that I do not use the cursor when i do braille because I HATE it that my braille texts are underlined with an entire point 7 and 8 line. I do however have cursor routing so I still can pinpoint a certain button if I want to click on it. Greetings, Anouk Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > Um? That button's all the way to the right when you have his name in > the table that shows contacts that match. I'm assuming you use the Add > contacts menu item? Well, you'd have to. > > Regards, > Nic > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:57 PM, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, I am trying to add a new contact person. I can find the person >> I am looking for in the skype database but I cant find the button to >> add him to my contact list (most people have skype setup so that you >> cant call them if you are not added to their contact list). The >> context menu does not allow me to add the person and i dont find a >> button near his name that allows me to add him, only to view his user >> profile. >> Can somebody help me? >> Thanks, >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
re: addition to webrotor
Hello Nicolai, Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with my braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get to the beginning of the next message instead. I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real soon and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program can be improved. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sendspace Wizard Question
Hi, Yes, it works really well. There is an extended VoiceOver compatibility option. I believe you can log in without that feature enabled, because the way I remember it, you can't enable it before you log in. Just had a look, and you seem to be able to. When you log in, go to the options menu and you'll find it. I wrote the support team about some minor things, and they say they'll test it before the next release. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:07 PM, David McLean wrote: > > Hello, This probably seems like a strange question for this list but I > am sure some folks on this list have probably used Sendspace in > Windows. The Windows version comes with a wizard that allows for the > download of multiple files simultaneously and I was pleasantly > surprised the other day to find that there is also a version for the > Mac. > However when I tried it I found I can't get past the login screen > because I can't type anything in the login and password boxes. > I've tried routing the mouse an clicking it but it doesn't seem to > work. > Has anyone actually been able to use this? > Hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about! > Thanks for any help.∂ > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding a contact person to mac skype
Hi, Um? That button's all the way to the right when you have his name in the table that shows contacts that match. I'm assuming you use the Add contacts menu item? Well, you'd have to. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:57 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I am trying to add a new contact person. I can find the person > I am looking for in the skype database but I cant find the button to > add him to my contact list (most people have skype setup so that you > cant call them if you are not added to their contact list). The > context menu does not allow me to add the person and i dont find a > button near his name that allows me to add him, only to view his user > profile. > Can somebody help me? > Thanks, > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech muting
Hi, Just a tip. Turn keyboard help on when the trackpad is on, and try out different gestures to get feedback on their functionality if you haven't tried it. Also, the standard gestures are documented in the VoiceOver help. Keep in mind, of course, that you can also assign new gestures with a modifier key held down. Personally, I wish this didn't have to be the case, since I know a few gestures that I'd like to have that are not standard, but don't require a modifier key. Of course, you might be able to do that, somehow.. Hopefully just me not having figured it out. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:19 AM, peter apgar wrote: > > a three finger double tap will mute VO. if you turn BO off and on > again it will react exactly as you posted. the way to solve this is > to again three finger double tap. this feature works great especialy > when you don't want VO to read information every so many minutes. > > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Hi guys. I'm playing around with the track pad commander and I can't >> get it to do much. >> >> One of the things I have been able to do with it though is mute >> speech . Please don't ask me how I accomplish this. I' couldn't >> begin to tell you . Fortunately I have mmy braile display here and >> so >> all is not lost. In fact, muting speech is the ideal comfort zone >> for >> me when using the braille display. >> >> The thing is, I'm not muting the speech intentionally. I'm just >> cruzing arount the screen when VO says "speech muted and stops >> talking. When I go into voice over utility and look at the mute >> check >> box it is unchecked. If I check it and then uncheck it, I still get >> no speech. If I turn voiceover off then back on I get welcome to >> voiceover and then I get speech muted and then I get no speech. If I >> make a volume adjustment using command vo up and down then speech >> comes right back, even though neither the system volume or the vo >> volume are turned down. >> >> Has any one else seen this? It's happened to me twice in the last 3 >> days. I'd like to just ditch this trackpad commander. To me it is >> starting to look like more trouble than it's worth. Unfortunately I >> might have to teach it and so I need to hang in there for a while yet >> and see if I can make it happen. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: addition to webrotor
Hi, Heh. Well, that'd get confusing, since we already have VO-Command-F assigned to frames and so-forth. Since they're actually doing it in a logical way where keystrokes are concerned, it would be kind of hard to come up with another one, as the only free ones with the combination VO-Command are R and Z, apparently. That's what I call cool. And, it'd probably be even more confusing for existing Mac users if they suddenly decided to implement "browser mode" so that every time you typed F for form control, you'd go to a form and have to VO passed it if you didn't want to enter text into it, but VO-Command-F would still be frames. That'd make it pretty annoying, in my opinion. Thus, we have the rotor. Seems pretty fast on my end. Heck, at least they let us have a way to do this. We also have the item chooser VO-I. I don't think we're lacking in either fast browsing or quickly locating what we want, personally. I find it much quicker on the Mac-side than I do on Windows. That might just be me, though. Of course, if you have a trackpad, it's even easier. Now, you can make a gesture as if you're twisting a knob to change the rotor setting. If you're twisting it clockwise, you're moving to the next item in the rotor and if you're twisting counter-clockwise, you're going to the previous item. You can then proceed to flick up or down to move either to the previous or next item of choice. I hope Magic Mouse is supporting the VoiceOver gestures, but hopefully that'll happen in 10.6.2. I hear it currently does not, but that's always a solution if you have Magic Mouse. Or, of course, you could use an iPhone. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:31 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello, I think it would b enice if you could have some way in the > webrotor to go quickly to the item you want for example form controls, > now you have to vo-left or right arrow till you are there but it would > be nice if you could do it with a direct keypress. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
addition to webrotor
Hello, I think it would b enice if you could have some way in the webrotor to go quickly to the item you want for example form controls, now you have to vo-left or right arrow till you are there but it would be nice if you could do it with a direct keypress. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: podvcast on pro tools on maccessibility site
Hello, Yes I was really excited about it too and immediatley posted on some dutch lists/informed some dutch friends. Greetings, Anouk On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi gang, > > I really appreciated the podcast on maccessibility about the upcoming > accessibility of pro toools. Gives me another reason to have switched. > > Can someone tell me though what the cost is for a full pro tools > system? ANd what are those tactile command interfaces? > > Does the pro tools solution have a hardware/software bundle? > > Thanks, and best > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > Yuma Antoine Decaux > jamy...@gmail.com > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
podvcast on pro tools on maccessibility site
Hi gang, I really appreciated the podcast on maccessibility about the upcoming accessibility of pro toools. Gives me another reason to have switched. Can someone tell me though what the cost is for a full pro tools system? ANd what are those tactile command interfaces? Does the pro tools solution have a hardware/software bundle? Thanks, and best Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
apple warranty
Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking about how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a braille display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state) if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1. apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one, after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty so that has to be included in the total price. I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost. Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
