Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Teresa, Copy and paste works everywhere, Cut and Paste only works within documents where the Undo feature is available. The reason Cut and Paste is not available for moving files is to protect against loss of data should the computer crash during such an operation. I would say there is as good as zero chance that Apple will change this. Cheers, Anne On Jun 30, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move > applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. > > Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Have a question on selecting multiple item and navigating by form field and text
Hi: For some reason, when loading Google I always land on the form field so I can edit the search. Maybe it's because I turned off the summary when the page loads feature so Vo doesn't read the whole page automatically. It simply loads on the form field. Hope that helps. On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > Alfredo, > I only need a couple of key strokes to get to the search box in google. > First, you should know that my quick nav is on. So when safari loads the > page, I first use my up and right arrows to select forms in the web rotor. > Then I hit the down arrow. The first place I land is the search box. I Then > can type what I want and hit enter or go down arrow again to the search or > I'm feeling lucky buttons. > Having been a jaws user for a number of years, I do understand the > convenience of simply hitting the f key and landing on your form field, but > thing about this. With quick nav, you may navigate the web one-handed as any > sighted person can do with a mouse. I find that highly liberating as I feel > it requires less effort on my part. > > Friendly, > Chris > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alfredo wrote: > >> The rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a >> comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google >> webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key. With voice over >> in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys >> along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to >> the text edit field. The safari way requires more key strokes, if I >> could remove key strokes then better. I could use the web item rotor >> and the of to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this >> requires the same number of keystrokes. Maybe as I get used to the >> mac I will get better and be able to find a way o do this. I will >> try grouping mode to see if this helps. Should the voice over cursor >> be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page? >> It does on other pages, like the gmail web page. Maybe if I turn off >> automatic speaking of webpages when they load. Thank for clarifying >> the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and >> only found one solution for this, and i think it was because of safari >> 5 extensions, which I currently do not have. With everyone saying >> that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month >> or so. Thanks again for the response. >> alfredo >> >> Chris Moore wrote: >>> Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create >>> a short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode) >>> as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you >>> mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages >>> loaded of your choice? Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been >>> opened up someone might develop an add on. for now you will have to press >>> command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them. >>> On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote: >>> I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting some bumps in the way. 1. Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws? In jaws you just clicked the “f” key and you would land on a form field, such as an edit box, radio button, or button. 2. Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage, especially ones that contain many links. Is there a hot key to navigate text element by text element on the web? 3. I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and went to the web rotor popup menu. I wanted to select multiple items or deselect multiple items but I could not. Plus VO does not tell you if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO + f8. Can anyone shine a light on this? I can live with having to close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup menu. 4. Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari? I had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page, Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others. Does anyone know how to do this? 6. Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor? Like for example, instead of just going to the link selected from the web item rotor can I activate that link so that the web page will load up auto magically? This would save me on more steps in selecting the link. If there is no way to do this, then I will send an email to apple
Re: webkit and audible
Webkit is in a way the raw code of safary. I would just run webkit instead. If there is a way to run webkid all the time I dunno. Take care. S On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi all, > > I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and > Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a > way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with > Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any > ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO > kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just > wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. > > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
webkit and audible
Hi all, I read a few days ago that someone on the list was having trouble with VO and Audible. I have had this same trouble and have installed Webkit. Is there a way to route webkit to Safari? Webkit is sitting on the dock, along with Safari. Every time I want to go in to Audible, I have to start Webkit. any ideas? I don't mind starting Webkit, and I'm glad that this works, because VO kept restarting every time I went on to the Audible site. I was just wondering if you had any suggestions. Have a great day. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: VO responsiveness
Yes it is. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VO responsiveness Hi, I've never tried webkit before. I know that's what runs Safari, but is Webkit a web browser also? Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I'm talking about the Mac, but I could be hallucinating. LOL! It seems more responsiveness in Webkit to me. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Do you mean on the Mack or the Ipod Touch, because if you're talking about the Itouch, it seems a lot more responsive. But if you're talking about the Mack, it seems the same as it ever was. >> Courtney >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone: >>> >>> Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO responsiveness
Hi, I've never tried webkit before. I know that's what runs Safari, but is Webkit a web browser also? Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I'm talking about the Mac, but I could be hallucinating. LOL! It seems more > responsiveness in Webkit to me. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Do you mean on the Mack or the Ipod Touch, because if you're talking about >> the Itouch, it seems a lot more responsive. But if you're talking about the >> Mack, it seems the same as it ever was. >> Courtney >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone: >>> >>> Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems >>> to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO responsiveness
I'm talking about the Mac, but I could be hallucinating. LOL! It seems more responsiveness in Webkit to me. On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Do you mean on the Mack or the Ipod Touch, because if you're talking about > the Itouch, it seems a lot more responsive. But if you're talking about the > Mack, it seems the same as it ever was. > Courtney > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > >> Hi everyone: >> >> Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems >> to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- VO responsiveness
I think Safari/Webkit is more responsive. On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Hi everyone: > > Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems > to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO responsiveness
Hi, Do you mean on the Mack or the Ipod Touch, because if you're talking about the Itouch, it seems a lot more responsive. But if you're talking about the Mack, it seems the same as it ever was. Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Hi everyone: > > Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems > to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO responsiveness
Hi everyone: Does VO seem more responsive and snappy, or is it my imagination? It seems to have lost some sluggishness since the most recent build. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hi, I got the script, but I know absolutely nothing about running scripts. Can someone please help? Thanks in advance, Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:08 PM, William Windels wrote: > Hi Chris, > This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. > apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to > change this in the near future. > It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in > the mail of Rossy. > > I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do > this task. > It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be > better :( > > Hope this helps, > best regards, > William > > Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: > >> I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past >> to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use >> command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have >> sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come >> back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then >> please send an email to Apple too. >> On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: >> >>> hi , >>> if it can help you here you can find the script move file . >>> this helps for the cut and paste . >>> http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ >>> let us know if you need help . >>> rossy >>> www.universalaccess.it >>> >>> Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: >>> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Focus blue and pressing delete.
Here's a free downloadable computer Braille reference card: http://www.nbp.org/downloads/nmccs.brf The National Braille press also has a book called Computer Braille Code Made Easy that's more of a tutorial, but I'm not sure if it costs. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Teresa. > > If you find a guide, I think it would be usefull. It is a bit > difficult to figure these comands out. I have found some by trying and > trying, and sometimes I can remember how something is done in 8dot > braille. > > Best regards Annie. > > 2010/6/29, Teresa Cochran : >> Actually, I should add that in general, after learning a little about how >> 8-dot Braille works, the key assignments are quite logical. A control m or >> control j character will get you return; ergo, dots 7 and 8 with either j or >> m. I tried 7-8 with dots 2-4 and got the tab character, as I expected. I'm >> going to get one of those free computer Braille guides I'm seeing all over >> the place. >> >> Teresa >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Jesper Holten wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> I had to do it a couple of times, the pin is for the blue display. >>> But you got to be fairly quick about it it seems. >>> Kindest regards, Jesper. >>> - Original Message - From: "Justin Thornton" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: Focus blue and pressing delete. >>> >>> hi I am having an issue when I try to pair the focus 40 blue via bluetooth to my macbook pro I get stuck in a password or pin edit box no matter what pin I use: : 1234: nothing seems to work everytime I hit the pair/connect button I get thrown back to the same place can someone please help!! On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Jesper Holten wrote: > Hi all. > When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my > Imac, I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I > have written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how > to assign a braille key to that function. > Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, > Jesper. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? > > Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) > > Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. > G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- > On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when >> drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. >> It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. >> They said that they are working on it! >> Talk soon >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the >>> past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use >>> command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I >>> have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they >>> come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then >>> please send an email to Apple too. >>> On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: >>> hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: > How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know > this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not > understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so > can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel wrote: > Hi Chris, > I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag > and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. > It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. > They said that they are working on it! > Talk soon > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past >> to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use >> command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have >> sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come >> back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then >> please send an email to Apple too. >> On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: >> >>> hi , >>> if it can help you here you can find the script move file . >>> this helps for the cut and paste . >>> http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ >>> let us know if you need help . >>> rossy >>> www.universalaccess.it >>> >>> Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: >>> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to do this task. It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x should be better :( Hope this helps, best regards, William Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven: > I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past > to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use > command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have > sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come > back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please > send an email to Apple too. > On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: > >> hi , >> if it can help you here you can find the script move file . >> this helps for the cut and paste . >> http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ >> let us know if you need help . >> rossy >> www.universalaccess.it >> >> Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: >> >>> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know >>> this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not >>> understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so >>> can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too. On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: > hi , > if it can help you here you can find the script move file . > this helps for the cut and paste . > http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ > let us know if you need help . > rossy > www.universalaccess.it > > Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: > >> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know >> this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not >> understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so >> can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple and audible
Hey! It's good to hear that the latest nightly build of webkit fixes the Audible problem. Thanks for the info. DougSent from my iPhone On 2010-06-29, at 7:15 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > If you can, tell the people at the store to install the latest nightly build > version of webkit. This fixes the audible.com issue. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Carolyn wrote: > >> Hi everyone: >> Just wanted to share that I had a meeting with two VO trainers today. >> Actually, truth to tell, we're all learning together, which works great, >> because each of us brings something to the session. Anyhow, we pulled up >> some troublesome websites including Chase.com, and Audible. We managed to >> get Chase to work fairly well, though Safari was pretty persnickety about >> handling the various tables and how to access them. With audible, I managed >> to get Vo to freak out completely for these guys. They are both going to >> report to accessability, since VO kept restarting each time I'd attempt to >> move anywhere on the screen. We also worked on page up, page down, Home and >> End, which was a forgotten mystery for me, and initially stumpped them. It >> was a really neat session, and I'm hoping these kinds of sessions will help >> VO to become more familiar to all the folks at our store. As it is, another >> worker saw me monkeying with IP4, and was watching and asking me about it. >> We found it sluggish of response until he turned off "speak hints." Sorry >> to blather on, just very excited. >> :) :) :) >> >> Carolyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >> tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple and audible
Thanks, Chris. I'll share that with them. We're working off of my Macbook Pro. So, guess I could do that. It was kind of fun though to see these guys when VO wouldn't behave properly. :) Carolyn - Original Message - From: Chris Westbrook To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Apple and audible If you can, tell the people at the store to install the latest nightly build version of webkit. This fixes the audible.com issue. On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Carolyn wrote: Hi everyone: Just wanted to share that I had a meeting with two VO trainers today. Actually, truth to tell, we're all learning together, which works great, because each of us brings something to the session. Anyhow, we pulled up some troublesome websites including Chase.com, and Audible. We managed to get Chase to work fairly well, though Safari was pretty persnickety about handling the various tables and how to access them. With audible, I managed to get Vo to freak out completely for these guys. They are both going to report to accessability, since VO kept restarting each time I'd attempt to move anywhere on the screen. We also worked on page up, page down, Home and End, which was a forgotten mystery for me, and initially stumpped them. It was a really neat session, and I'm hoping these kinds of sessions will help VO to become more familiar to all the folks at our store. As it is, another worker saw me monkeying with IP4, and was watching and asking me about it. We found it sluggish of response until he turned off "speak hints." Sorry to blather on, just very excited. :) :) :) Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
Yes, because it is a cross word puzzle. What did you expect? Neil - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:49 PM Subject: Re: saytext is available I dont' really have any good scanning matterial but so far I've scanned a crossword puzzle probably not the best and it came out looking like crap it is free On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:38 AM, Simon F wrote: So how are you finding it using the iPhone 4? Any trouble with the signal pickup? And how is the usability!? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wanger Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:47 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available I just tried it on the new iPhone 4 and it works. It beeps when the document is in focus and the camera is steady; best done with two hands unless you've got a very steady hand, and it takes the picture. OCR doesn't take a terribly long time. The quality of lighting in the room is a big deal. When I first scanned I had poor results but then moved to somewhat better lighting and could read the letter in front of me with a fair amount of errors. I'm not after perfection though, just after something that can give me enough information to make heads or tails out of things. I think that if I'm using it with better lighting it will be great. On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: hi listers, finally, saytext is their. head to the app store and put In the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple and audible
If you can, tell the people at the store to install the latest nightly build version of webkit. This fixes the audible.com issue. On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Carolyn wrote: > Hi everyone: > Just wanted to share that I had a meeting with two VO trainers today. > Actually, truth to tell, we're all learning together, which works great, > because each of us brings something to the session. Anyhow, we pulled up > some troublesome websites including Chase.com, and Audible. We managed to > get Chase to work fairly well, though Safari was pretty persnickety about > handling the various tables and how to access them. With audible, I managed > to get Vo to freak out completely for these guys. They are both going to > report to accessability, since VO kept restarting each time I'd attempt to > move anywhere on the screen. We also worked on page up, page down, Home and > End, which was a forgotten mystery for me, and initially stumpped them. It > was a really neat session, and I'm hoping these kinds of sessions will help > VO to become more familiar to all the folks at our store. As it is, another > worker saw me monkeying with IP4, and was watching and asking me about it. > We found it sluggish of response until he turned off "speak hints." Sorry to > blather on, just very excited. > :) :) :) > > Carolyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Hi, I'm not sure how to run scripts, can someone please help? Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:21 PM, rossy wrote: > hi , > if it can help you here you can find the script move file . > this helps for the cut and paste . > http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ > let us know if you need help . > rossy > www.universalaccess.it > > Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: > >> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know >> this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not >> understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so >> can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
There is an error ont he webpage, can you please post the link again. Alfredo thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: > How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know > this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not > understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so > can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple and audible
Hi everyone: Just wanted to share that I had a meeting with two VO trainers today. Actually, truth to tell, we're all learning together, which works great, because each of us brings something to the session. Anyhow, we pulled up some troublesome websites including Chase.com, and Audible. We managed to get Chase to work fairly well, though Safari was pretty persnickety about handling the various tables and how to access them. With audible, I managed to get Vo to freak out completely for these guys. They are both going to report to accessability, since VO kept restarting each time I'd attempt to move anywhere on the screen. We also worked on page up, page down, Home and End, which was a forgotten mystery for me, and initially stumpped them. It was a really neat session, and I'm hoping these kinds of sessions will help VO to become more familiar to all the folks at our store. As it is, another worker saw me monkeying with IP4, and was watching and asking me about it. We found it sluggish of response until he turned off "speak hints." Sorry to blather on, just very excited. :) :) :) Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
Honestly, I don't know why, but there is a difference in my results when I hold a finger on the screen while finding the correct position. Smile. On 29. juni 2010, at 19.01, clarence griffin wrote: > What would holding your finger on the upper part of the screen do? is that > needed for it to work? Just wondering. > > GF > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one >> finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and >> while changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high >> frequency repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the >> camera sound and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I >> heard the repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the >> app was satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the >> font size, but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, >> which is a pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position to >> be about 1 foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same manually by >> tapping the "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely sure the >> camera are at the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning is the >> most important part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. Smile. >> >> With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. >> >> Cheers, >> John André >> >> >> On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a >>> document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a >>> table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The >>> software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and >>> then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. >>> >>> The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. >>> Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was >>> smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved >>> better results with this document. >>> Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. >>> >>> This is very exciting though. >>> On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >> thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will >>> find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different >>> do to the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out > Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone th
Re: saytext is available
Another factor is sometimes your fingers holding the phone can cast a shadow on the paper, which does not help matters. I did not realize this until my kid pointed it out and I imagine there is a way to hold the phone, so shadows are not created. On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, clarence griffin wrote: > maybe the camera isn't getting the light it needs to focus or maybe the print > is not clear enough. who knows. there are so many things that it could be. > Maybe the type of paper. Maybe there are images on the paper behind the text > that could be throwing it off. It could be lots of things. the font of the > text could be another thing. > For a free program folks, this thing can really go some ware. Luck its not > me. I would charge all you complaining bastards for all the hard work. I > figure if I am going to get complained at, I might as well get paid for it. > lol. > But yeah folks, lets help this developer to help us. Write him with ideas and > don't wine about how it doesn't work. Its free for crying out loud and we > should be thankful that there are people willing to take time to do something > like this, and not charge us out the but for it like other people. > > GF > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. >> /Krister >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: >> >>> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >> thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will >>> find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different >>> do to the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out > Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 >> anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with > iphone 3gs but fou
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Hi Everyone, I am relatively inexperienced when it comes to programming, and am wondering if any of you have had luck programming with Python on the Mac. I believe that the Terminal allows for built-in functionality, yet I have also heard that it cannot handle certain scripting which I will need to do for work. I downloaded the Python IDLE for Mac, but it does not appear to be accessible with VoiceOver. Does Windows or another OS work any better? Please let me know if you have any suggestions. THanks. Lindsay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
Well, now i have tried the holding finger against upper part of screen suggestion, still to no avail. I'm slowly beginning to run out of ideas. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 19.10 skrev Krister Ekstrom: > I have a theory that it could be because the 3gs doesn't auto focus, or does > it? I could be wrong though but i haven't checked this idea out. Time for > some more stretching, methinks. :-) > /Krister > 29 jun 2010 kl. 19.01 skrev clarence griffin: > >> What would holding your finger on the upper part of the screen do? is that >> needed for it to work? Just wondering. >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one >>> finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and >>> while changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high >>> frequency repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the >>> camera sound and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I >>> heard the repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the >>> app was satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the >>> font size, but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, >>> which is a pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position >>> to be about 1 foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same >>> manually by tapping the "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely >>> sure the camera are at the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning >>> is the most important part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. >>> Smile. >>> >>> With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> John André >>> >>> >>> On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: >>> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better results with this document. Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. This is very exciting though. On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: > It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a > scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You > need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also > need to raise it slowly. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Cody Hurst" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, > no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the > only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height >> may make it difficult to focus, but then that is >> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >> source will also help. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >>> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >>> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >>> thing. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep > when anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence >> griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010
RE: saytext is available
How do you turn on the LED light and leave it on? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available remember lighting isn't much of an issue now that you have the led light in the front of the phone that can be left on On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Larry Wanger wrote: > I just tried it on the new iPhone 4 and it works. It beeps when the document is in focus and the camera is steady; best done with two hands unless you've got a very steady hand, and it takes the picture. OCR doesn't take a terribly long time. The quality of lighting in the room is a big deal. When I first scanned I had poor results but then moved to somewhat better lighting and could read the letter in front of me with a fair amount of errors. I'm not after perfection though, just after something that can give me enough information to make heads or tails out of things. I think that if I'm using it with better lighting it will be great. > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > >> hi listers, finally, saytext is their. head to the app store and put >> In the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs >> but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to >> tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube >> demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better >> luck than me. >> >> regards. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
Using a scanner for OCR is old hat. I think if a stand was made available for the iPhone to fit into then the results would be better. The distance would be correct and the picture would be steady. The Iphone camera does not have image stabilisation and does not have very good auto focus and auto zoom. The camera was not designed for OCR in mind unlike the ones you get from Humanware. The resolution on the 3GS is only 3.2 pixel too. As the camera improves on the iPhone with future models and the processor becomes more powerful to enable more complex functions it will be then that we will see improved OCR on the iPhone. But as I have said before this app is great considering it is free and the hardware it is running on. On 29 Jun 2010, at 18:18, Cody > the issue is that the entire paper doesn't fit nicely inside the camera > lense, and there are things around like other fixtures, a hand, maybe a table > with a pattern or lines that the ocr might interpret as text, thats why this > is not a good idea. that is why a scanner can do a better job > On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, clarence griffin wrote: > >> maybe the camera isn't getting the light it needs to focus or maybe the >> print is not clear enough. who knows. there are so many things that it could >> be. Maybe the type of paper. Maybe there are images on the paper behind the >> text that could be throwing it off. It could be lots of things. the font of >> the text could be another thing. >> For a free program folks, this thing can really go some ware. Luck its not >> me. I would charge all you complaining bastards for all the hard work. I >> figure if I am going to get complained at, I might as well get paid for it. >> lol. >> But yeah folks, lets help this developer to help us. Write him with ideas >> and don't wine about how it doesn't work. Its free for crying out loud and >> we should be thankful that there are people willing to take time to do >> something like this, and not charge us out the but for it like other people. >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives >>> here. >>> /Krister >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: >>> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: > It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a > scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You > need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also > need to raise it slowly. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Cody Hurst" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, > no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the > only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height >> may make it difficult to focus, but then that is >> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >> source will also help. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >>> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >>> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >>> thing. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep > when anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence >> griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out >> Thursday? >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>
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Barry, Thank you so much for this explanation. You're brilliant! How do you do it. I've spent hours on Pages and didn't come up with that. Cheers, Anne On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to > table". > > After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo > will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is > there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, > selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object > placement radio group. > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: > >> Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the >> column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then >> convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. >> Can you provide some step by step procedures? >> >> Thanks so much. >> >> On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other >>> objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are >>> found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text >>> and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line >>> charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it >>> to an in-line table. >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello Paul, >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like > to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > 2.1 2.2. etc. Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. >>> > I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > letters and memos. Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it back again. Messy, but doable. >>> > Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > translate into > Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > facilities. Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. >>> > Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > that are not in the template chooser? I don't think so, but you can create your own. >>> > Do you also use numbers? Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. >>> I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. >>> I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. >>> Cheers, >>> Anne >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
LOL you tell em how it is. I think for the first attempt this program is pretty good and can only get better. Put it this way I did not have to spend £18 for it unlike another app that apparently scans bar codes (sort of) and then reads out a tiny bit of text. This app is much better then that and it is free! The KNFB reader on the Nokia is £1000, and the iPal Solo is about £1600 and that has a whole windows PC powering that. So what were you really expecting? On 29 Jun 2010, at 17:59, clarence griffin wrote: > maybe the camera isn't getting the light it needs to focus or maybe the print > is not clear enough. who knows. there are so many things that it could be. > Maybe the type of paper. Maybe there are images on the paper behind the text > that could be throwing it off. It could be lots of things. the font of the > text could be another thing. > For a free program folks, this thing can really go some ware. Luck its not > me. I would charge all you complaining bastards for all the hard work. I > figure if I am going to get complained at, I might as well get paid for it. > lol. > But yeah folks, lets help this developer to help us. Write him with ideas and > don't wine about how it doesn't work. Its free for crying out loud and we > should be thankful that there are people willing to take time to do something > like this, and not charge us out the but for it like other people. > > GF > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. >> /Krister >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: >> >>> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >> thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will >>> find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different >>> do to the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out > Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 >> anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29
Re: saytext is available
I didn't get beeps yet either. hmmm. I will keep trying though. GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > This did not beep for me and I have tried every trick in the book. *frown > On 29 Jun 2010, at 12:24, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried >> and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling >> and not a sound came out of the thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >>> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to >>> beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for >>> sure since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with > iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone > would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as > explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and > perhaps you would have better luck than me. > > regards. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from
Re: saytext is available
lol. I wonder what it will do with some of the displays I have here. I should try it. I should try shooting the desktop on the screen of my computer. lol. or writing something in a blank document. I shall try that. lol GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: > I only did that because I was just sick of it and I did it for shits and > giggles to see if it would work, which it didn't, but at least I got it to > make the beeping sound for whatever it's worth. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:52 PM, clarence griffin wrote: > >> why would you give up when trying to take a picture of an lcd display. >> that's your fault. try paper with typed writing on it? that may work better. >> If you use the program for what it was intended, it may work better for you? >> lol >> What a novel idea! >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> I wanted to do something crazy and took a picture of the lcd screen of my >>> edirol r09 and to my surprise it focused in on the display, took the >>> picture and came out looking like garbage. I give up >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: > I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: > >> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also >> need to raise it slowly. >> >> Earle >> >> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >> >> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >> - Original Message - >> From: "Cody Hurst" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> >> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, >> no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height >>> may make it difficult to focus, but then that is >>> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >>> source will also help. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will > find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is > necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different > do to the camera, but I do not know for sure > since I do not have one yet. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to >> beep when anything is in focus >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >> >>> What is the price on this app? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence >>> griffin >>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out >>> Thursday? >>> >>> GF >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm >> exchnging my >>> phone in a few dys. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >> >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store >>> and
Re: saytext is available
the issue is that the entire paper doesn't fit nicely inside the camera lense, and there are things around like other fixtures, a hand, maybe a table with a pattern or lines that the ocr might interpret as text, thats why this is not a good idea. that is why a scanner can do a better job On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, clarence griffin wrote: > maybe the camera isn't getting the light it needs to focus or maybe the print > is not clear enough. who knows. there are so many things that it could be. > Maybe the type of paper. Maybe there are images on the paper behind the text > that could be throwing it off. It could be lots of things. the font of the > text could be another thing. > For a free program folks, this thing can really go some ware. Luck its not > me. I would charge all you complaining bastards for all the hard work. I > figure if I am going to get complained at, I might as well get paid for it. > lol. > But yeah folks, lets help this developer to help us. Write him with ideas and > don't wine about how it doesn't work. Its free for crying out loud and we > should be thankful that there are people willing to take time to do something > like this, and not charge us out the but for it like other people. > > GF > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. >> /Krister >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: >> >>> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >> thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will >>> find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different >>> do to the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out > Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 >> anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I test
Re: saytext is available
I only did that because I was just sick of it and I did it for shits and giggles to see if it would work, which it didn't, but at least I got it to make the beeping sound for whatever it's worth. On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:52 PM, clarence griffin wrote: > why would you give up when trying to take a picture of an lcd display. that's > your fault. try paper with typed writing on it? that may work better. If you > use the program for what it was intended, it may work better for you? lol > What a novel idea! > > GF > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> I wanted to do something crazy and took a picture of the lcd screen of my >> edirol r09 and to my surprise it focused in on the display, took the picture >> and came out looking like garbage. I give up >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives >>> here. >>> /Krister >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: >>> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: > It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a > scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You > need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also > need to raise it slowly. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Cody Hurst" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, > no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the > only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height >> may make it difficult to focus, but then that is >> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >> source will also help. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >>> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >>> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >>> thing. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep > when anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence >> griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out >> Thursday? >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 >>> anyways. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm > exchnging my >> phone in a few dys. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > >> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >> >> regards. >>>
Re: saytext is available
it does, just not close up. GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > I have a theory that it could be because the 3gs doesn't auto focus, or does > it? I could be wrong though but i haven't checked this idea out. Time for > some more stretching, methinks. :-) > /Krister > 29 jun 2010 kl. 19.01 skrev clarence griffin: > >> What would holding your finger on the upper part of the screen do? is that >> needed for it to work? Just wondering. >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one >>> finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and >>> while changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high >>> frequency repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the >>> camera sound and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I >>> heard the repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the >>> app was satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the >>> font size, but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, >>> which is a pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position >>> to be about 1 foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same >>> manually by tapping the "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely >>> sure the camera are at the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning >>> is the most important part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. >>> Smile. >>> >>> With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> John André >>> >>> >>> On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: >>> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better results with this document. Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. This is very exciting though. On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: > It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a > scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You > need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also > need to raise it slowly. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Cody Hurst" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, > no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the > only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height >> may make it difficult to focus, but then that is >> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >> source will also help. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >>> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >>> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >>> thing. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep > when anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence >> griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>
Re: saytext is available
I have a theory that it could be because the 3gs doesn't auto focus, or does it? I could be wrong though but i haven't checked this idea out. Time for some more stretching, methinks. :-) /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 19.01 skrev clarence griffin: > What would holding your finger on the upper part of the screen do? is that > needed for it to work? Just wondering. > > GF > > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one >> finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and >> while changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high >> frequency repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the >> camera sound and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I >> heard the repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the >> app was satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the >> font size, but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, >> which is a pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position to >> be about 1 foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same manually by >> tapping the "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely sure the >> camera are at the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning is the >> most important part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. Smile. >> >> With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. >> >> Cheers, >> John André >> >> >> On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a >>> document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a >>> table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The >>> software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and >>> then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. >>> >>> The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. >>> Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was >>> smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved >>> better results with this document. >>> Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. >>> >>> This is very exciting though. >>> On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >> thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will >>> find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different >>> do to the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out > Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >
Re: saytext is available
What would holding your finger on the upper part of the screen do? is that needed for it to work? Just wondering. GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: > Hi, > > I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one > finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and while > changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high frequency > repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the camera sound > and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I heard the > repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the app was > satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the font size, > but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, which is a > pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position to be about 1 > foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same manually by tapping the > "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely sure the camera are at > the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning is the most important > part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. Smile. > > With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. > > Cheers, > John André > > > On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: > >> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a >> document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a >> table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The >> software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and >> then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. >> >> The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. >> Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was >> smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better >> results with this document. >> Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. >> >> This is very exciting though. >> On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: >> >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >>> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >>> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >>> to raise it slowly. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Cody Hurst" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> >>> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >>> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >>> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I > tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms > until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the > thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do >> to the camera, but I do not know for sure >> since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >>> when anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 > anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3
Re: saytext is available
I think the 3gs's camera plays a big part in why its not working for allot of us. GF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
maybe the camera isn't getting the light it needs to focus or maybe the print is not clear enough. who knows. there are so many things that it could be. Maybe the type of paper. Maybe there are images on the paper behind the text that could be throwing it off. It could be lots of things. the font of the text could be another thing. For a free program folks, this thing can really go some ware. Luck its not me. I would charge all you complaining bastards for all the hard work. I figure if I am going to get complained at, I might as well get paid for it. lol. But yeah folks, lets help this developer to help us. Write him with ideas and don't wine about how it doesn't work. Its free for crying out loud and we should be thankful that there are people willing to take time to do something like this, and not charge us out the but for it like other people. GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. > /Krister > 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: > >> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: >> >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >>> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >>> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >>> to raise it slowly. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Cody Hurst" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> >>> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >>> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >>> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I > tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms > until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the > thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do >> to the camera, but I do not know for sure >> since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >>> when anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 > anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging >>> my phone in a few dys. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >
Re: Pages09
Just select the text to convert and choose format > table > "convert text to table". After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo will announce "hi lighted". That is the only indication that anything is there. However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object placement radio group. On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote: > Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the > column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then > convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. > Can you provide some step by step procedures? > > Thanks so much. > > On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: >> I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other >> objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are >> found in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text >> and back again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line >> charictors as rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it >> to an in-line table. >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello Paul, >> >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 2.1 2.2. etc. >>> Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write letters and memos. >>> Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see >>> and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. >>> However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it >>> into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it >>> back again. Messy, but doable. >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can translate into Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge facilities. >>> Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to >>> spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 that are not in the template chooser? >>> I don't think so, but you can create your own. >> Do you also use numbers? >>> Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. >> >>> I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. >> >>> I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Anne >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
why would you give up when trying to take a picture of an lcd display. that's your fault. try paper with typed writing on it? that may work better. If you use the program for what it was intended, it may work better for you? lol What a novel idea! GF On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > I wanted to do something crazy and took a picture of the lcd screen of my > edirol r09 and to my surprise it focused in on the display, took the picture > and came out looking like garbage. I give up > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. >> /Krister >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: >> >>> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the >> thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will >>> find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different >>> do to the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out > Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 >> anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with > iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone > would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as > explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and > perhaps you would have better luck than me. > > regards. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this g
How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder from one location to another. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Alfred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder from one location to another. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Alfred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
I"m having sort of the same issue, only I'm trying to drag an AVI file into iDVD, but the issue is that when I do VO command shift space for a mouse down then switch to idvd and route the mouse and do that same command again for mouse up, it does another mouse down, so how am I supposed to drag and drop anything? On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Alfredo wrote: > How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know > this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not > understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so > can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder > from one location to another. Any help would be greatly appreciated, > Alfred. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: say it
Hello: If you look back through the last 500 emails, the app is called "Say Text," and works to turn then iPhone into a scanner. Not to be rude, but people really need to look through these threads to avoid making unnecessary ones and more traffic. Respectfully, Carolyn On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Simon F wrote: > So this app for the iPhone “say it” I think it was called. > > If I have it correct, this will let you take a snap shot of a document and > then using OCR will convert it into a automatically read out audio of the > text. > > A free version of the knfb reader mobile for the Symbian devices. Is that > correct? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Focus blue and pressing delete.
Hi Teresa. If you find a guide, I think it would be usefull. It is a bit difficult to figure these comands out. I have found some by trying and trying, and sometimes I can remember how something is done in 8dot braille. Best regards Annie. 2010/6/29, Teresa Cochran : > Actually, I should add that in general, after learning a little about how > 8-dot Braille works, the key assignments are quite logical. A control m or > control j character will get you return; ergo, dots 7 and 8 with either j or > m. I tried 7-8 with dots 2-4 and got the tab character, as I expected. I'm > going to get one of those free computer Braille guides I'm seeing all over > the place. > > Teresa > On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Jesper Holten wrote: > >> Hi. >> I had to do it a couple of times, the pin is for the blue display. >> But you got to be fairly quick about it it seems. >> Kindest regards, Jesper. >> - Original Message - From: "Justin Thornton" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:33 AM >> Subject: Re: Focus blue and pressing delete. >> >> >>> hi >>> I am having an issue when I try to pair the focus 40 blue via bluetooth >>> to my macbook pro >>> I get stuck in a password or pin edit box >>> no matter what pin I use: : 1234: nothing seems to work >>> everytime I hit the pair/connect button I get thrown back to the same >>> place >>> can someone please help!! >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Jesper Holten wrote: >>> Hi all. When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my Imac, I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to assign a braille key to that function. Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, Jesper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
Alfredo, With VoiceOver, you can't drag an item from one folder to another, you have to copy and paste. You can drag an item from one position in a list to another position in the same list, such as reordering languages in System Preferences. You can also drag and drop signatures in Mail Preferences although it is a bit tricky. Cheers, Anne On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Alfredo wrote: > How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know > this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not > understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so > can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder > from one location to another. Any help would be greatly appreciated, > Alfred. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: converting DVD
Hi Ester and all, I love DVD Remaster. I have tried Handbreak and Switch which are free but have never had success getting the conversions to work. I use DVD Remaster exclusively for this purpose and love it. It's so easy. Allison On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Larry, > > I was hoping that Annie or someone else who has used this recently would > respond, but I'd suggest you try Metakine's DVD Remaster or Remaster Pro > program: > http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/ > > You may want the Pro version, which preserves more multiple audio tracks, and > also lets you separate off either audio or video tracks (although it doesn't > sound as though this would be a requirement for your). This processes movies > at least 3 times faster than Handbrake, apart from the other options. The > interface is very accessible. I can't speak from direct experience, because > I don't do much movie watching or ripping. However, this was extensively > discussed on the Mac-access list last year, and one of the list members > contacted the developer to make what was already an extremely accessible > product work even better with VoiceOver. So, when Annie asked for a > recommendation on this list, I suggested this product, and I think she's been > fairly happy with it. I'll just state that this seems to be the DVD > conversion application of choice among people who do this en masse on the > Mac-access list. It costs $39.99 for the regular version and $49.99 for the > pro version, with free trial downloads so that you can check this out for > yourself. > > HTH, and maybe some other list members who use this can comment. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 27, 2010, Larry Wanger wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Can someone point me to software that I can use to convert DVD to MP4 or >> another file format that I can use. My wife has several DVDs she owns that >> have arobic workouts on them and, as she will be traveling quite a bit in >> the near future, she wants to end up being able to use the air video app on >> the iPad to watch them. This application plays many video file formats and >> my real issue is finding a Mac product that will capture the audio/video and >> copy it to my computer hard drive. >> >> Thanks for any help with this. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: diget-eyes
Hi Ms. Miracle, Does it work for cans as well? I have used Digit-Eyes and I love it. I have found what you are saying about moving it further away from the camera till a beep is heard. Your first name is the same as myMom's by the way. Thank you for making this wonderful product and for putting a bar code scanner app within reach of everyone. Sincerely, Allison On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Nancy Miracle wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > You are correct. In fact, the can be upside down, right side up, 90 degrees > rotated and very seriously skewed and we will resolve the issue. > > In fact, for all intents and purposes, the Digit-Eyes package is insensitive > to orientation of the code -- there is almost no amount of skew that the > system cannot resolve. > > The approach of holding the phone stable and moving the product in front of > it (as described for the idMate below) also works well on Digit-Eyes and at > least when people are starting out, we recommend trying this. The autofocus > camera on the iPhone 3Gs tends to do better in getting a capture when the > item is moving away from it. So we recommend starting by holding (say) the > bottom of the box close to the camera and then moving it away from the camera > until you get the beep that indicates that a capture has been made. > > Cordially, > Nancy Miracle > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > To my knoledge, the bar code can be upside down and slightly crocked. it I > think emits a click to let yo now if you are getting clode to it and you just > have to look for it but once you know where the bar code is on many > products you are fine. > > S > On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > > With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with the > > development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, cameras > > didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the camera > > couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be right-side-up. Of > > course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where on the box, can, or > > bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates a challenge. That's > > partly why the ID Mate is so expensive. They must use a 3D laser scanner, > > like is used in the check-out line at a grocery store. Those perform an > > active scan, and can register bar codes at any angle, and even on curved > > surfaces. You can basically hold up the scanner and turn the container in > > front of the camera, and it will automatically scan the bar code as soon as > > it's visible, regardless of the bar code's orientation. > > > > My thoughts were that the iPhone app would be like trying to read a bar > > code with a CCD scanner. Yes, it would work but only if you knew where to > > find the bar code, which way was right-side-up, and only if the bar code > > was on a flat surface. Is it better than that? > > > > Bryan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:03 AM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone > > > > Hi Bryan and all, > > > > I can say with certainty that the camera on the 3GS works well for the new > > bar code reader that Josh Lioncourt was talking about the other day > > Digit-Eyes. I have downloaded it and it works well. Not having any > > experience with the Iphone 4, I can't say about the cameras. I know it has > > two according to Cara Quin's podcast. Have a great day. > > > > Allison > > > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > >> Bryan, > >> > >> From what I have heard, the 3GS camera will do the job even if it is not > >> as good as the new iPhone 4. I will be very interested in how this > >> application performs despite the limitations of the 3GS. > >> On Jun 26, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> > >>> The iPhone 4 should do a great job with this app. The 5 megapixel camera > >>> provides the level of resolution that assisted KNFB Reader so much. With > >>> the lower quality cameras, the DPI of scanned images is too low. > >>> > >>> Bryan > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > >>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:30 PM > >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone > >>> > >>> No, > >>> > >>> The iPod touch doesn't have a camera. > >>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >>> > Hi, > Will this work with the Ipod Touch also? > Courtney > On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I don't think it's out yet. > > > > I couldn't find it in the app store. > > > > hth > > On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:15 PM, John J H
How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder from one location to another. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Alfred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: program to extract audio from a dvd
Hi CHad, There's Handbreak and Switch which Sarah does a great demo of on her podcast. I use a paid program called DVD Remaster. I have a podcast of it at: http://gwenna.podbean.com I hope that helps. I love extracting audio from DVDs. Have a great day. Allison On Jun 29, 2010, at 3:13 AM, chad baker wrote: > Hi do you guys know of any utility to extract audio from a dvd? > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Focus blue and pressing delete.
Actually, I should add that in general, after learning a little about how 8-dot Braille works, the key assignments are quite logical. A control m or control j character will get you return; ergo, dots 7 and 8 with either j or m. I tried 7-8 with dots 2-4 and got the tab character, as I expected. I'm going to get one of those free computer Braille guides I'm seeing all over the place. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Jesper Holten wrote: > Hi. > I had to do it a couple of times, the pin is for the blue display. But > you got to be fairly quick about it it seems. > Kindest regards, Jesper. > - Original Message - From: "Justin Thornton" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:33 AM > Subject: Re: Focus blue and pressing delete. > > >> hi >> I am having an issue when I try to pair the focus 40 blue via bluetooth to >> my macbook pro >> I get stuck in a password or pin edit box >> no matter what pin I use: : 1234: nothing seems to work >> everytime I hit the pair/connect button I get thrown back to the same place >> can someone please help!! >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Jesper Holten wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my Imac, >>> I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have >>> written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to >>> assign a braille key to that function. >>> Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, >>> Jesper. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
Hi John, I only heard the three short beeps indicating the picture was about to be taken and I assume that is what you are referring too. I did not hear any other sounds after the shutter sound to indicate the picture had ben taken. I also want to try some additional lighting situations to see if my results improve. On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, John André Netland wrote: > Hi, > > I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one > finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and while > changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high frequency > repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the camera sound > and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I heard the > repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the app was > satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the font size, > but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, which is a > pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position to be about 1 > foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same manually by tapping the > "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely sure the camera are at > the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning is the most important > part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. Smile. > > With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. > > Cheers, > John André > > > On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: > >> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a >> document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a >> table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The >> software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and >> then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. >> >> The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. >> Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was >> smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better >> results with this document. >> Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. >> >> This is very exciting though. >> On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: >> >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >>> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >>> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >>> to raise it slowly. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Cody Hurst" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> >>> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >>> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >>> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I > tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms > until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the > thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do >> to the camera, but I do not know for sure >> since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >>> when anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 > anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010,
Re: saytext is available
At the risk of seeming snide, its free, so toss it if your unsatisfied. So, your sick of it, make some recommendations or share constructive feedback with the author. Look I am not overly impressed either, but damn it it is a start and I have had more success with this than any other OCR app I have tried. It is frustrating, but how many times have you used a camera in this manner. Give this gent some credit because he at least has tried to bring something to the iPhone that was not available. Perhaps if he realizes how many people really are interested, that will provide encouragement to improve the application. On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > I have tried scanning tons of things and all I get are random letters, empty > lines and random chars. I'm getting sick of this. and this is the iphone 4. > what use is this is one has to have sight to see the document to scan it? > thought this was for blind people? > On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a >> document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a >> table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The >> software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and >> then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. >> >> The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. >> Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was >> smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better >> results with this document. >> Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. >> >> This is very exciting though. >> On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: >> >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >>> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >>> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >>> to raise it slowly. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Cody Hurst" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> >>> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >>> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >>> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I > tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms > until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the > thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do >> to the camera, but I do not know for sure >> since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >>> when anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 > anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging >>> my phone in a few dys. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >>> >
Re: Focus blue and pressing delete.
Thank you Annie. I'm just grateful those keys exist. LOL Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Terese. > If you mean an enter, if you for example are writing a text, you can > press dots 1,3,7,8. > . > > > I would love if we could change the delete, enter and some others, so > that we could make them more logical. > > Best regards Annie. > > 2010/6/29, Justin Thornton : >> hi >> I am having an issue when I try to pair the focus 40 blue via bluetooth to >> my macbook pro >> I get stuck in a password or pin edit box >> no matter what pin I use: : 1234: nothing seems to work >> everytime I hit the pair/connect button I get thrown back to the same place >> can someone please help!! >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Jesper Holten wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my >>> Imac, I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have >>> written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to >>> assign a braille key to that function. >>> Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, >>> Jesper. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Try using the Bluetooth setup utility in the system utilities first, then run the VO utility. Teresa On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Justin Thornton wrote: > hi > I am having an issue when I try to pair the focus 40 blue via bluetooth to my > macbook pro > I get stuck in a password or pin edit box > no matter what pin I use: : 1234: nothing seems to work > everytime I hit the pair/connect button I get thrown back to the same place > can someone please help!! > On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Jesper Holten wrote: > >> Hi all. >> When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my Imac, >> I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have written. >> No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to assign a >> braille key to that function. >> Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, >> Jesper. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
I wanted to do something crazy and took a picture of the lcd screen of my edirol r09 and to my surprise it focused in on the display, took the picture and came out looking like garbage. I give up On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. > /Krister > 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: > >> I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: >> >>> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >>> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >>> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >>> to raise it slowly. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Cody Hurst" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> >>> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >>> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >>> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I > tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms > until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the > thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do >> to the camera, but I do not know for sure >> since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >>> when anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 > anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging >>> my phone in a few dys. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegro
Re: saytext is available
I have the same problem as Cody on an Iphone 3gS. Don't know what gives here. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.55 skrev Cody Hurst: > I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: > >> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >> to raise it slowly. >> >> Earle >> >> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >> >> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >> - Original Message - >> From: "Cody Hurst" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> >> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may >>> make it difficult to focus, but then that is >>> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >>> source will also help. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find > that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is > necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do > to the camera, but I do not know for sure > since I do not have one yet. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >> when anything is in focus >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >> >>> What is the price on this app? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out >>> Thursday? >>> >>> GF >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging >> my >>> phone in a few dys. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >> >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >>> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >>> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >>> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >>> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >>> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >>> >>> regards. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from
Re: saytext is available
The strange thing though at least in my case is that i have a lamp directly above the table on which the paper i want to scan sits and the last time i tried the app i raised my arm almost to where my seiling fan sits, still no joy. I've given up for now. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 14.28 skrev Scott Howell: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have > no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried >> and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling >> and not a sound came out of the thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >>> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to >>> beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for >>> sure since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with > iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone > would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as > explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and > perhaps you would have better luck than me. > > regards. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroup
Re: saytext is available
Hi, I got this to work a couple of times automatically on my 3GS by holding one finger on the upper part of the screen after tapping "Take Picture" and while changing the distance to the page. There are 3 sounds heard, a high frequency repeated heard, probably auto focus finding edges and text, the camera sound and the iPHone's window sound when it opens a new window. I heard the repeated sound a couple of times, and the camera sound when the app was satisfied and started processing the scan. I'm not sure about the font size, but it was the small paper manual for Apple wireless keyboard, which is a pretty small one. Probably why the app found the best position to be about 1 foot from the page. It's also possible to do the same manually by tapping the "Camera" button, but then you have to be absolutely sure the camera are at the correct distance. Needless to say, the lightning is the most important part, in my case some wonderful norwegian daylight. Smile. With a little patience and technique, I'm sure this can be a great tool. Cheers, John André On 29. juni 2010, at 15.01, Chris Moore wrote: > ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a > document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a > table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The > software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and > then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. > > The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. > Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was > smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better > results with this document. > Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. > > This is very exciting though. > On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: > >> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >> to raise it slowly. >> >> Earle >> >> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >> >> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >> - Original Message - >> From: "Cody Hurst" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> >> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may >>> make it difficult to focus, but then that is >>> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >>> source will also help. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find > that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is > necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do > to the camera, but I do not know for sure > since I do not have one yet. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >> when anything is in focus >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >> >>> What is the price on this app? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out >>> Thursday? >>> >>> GF >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging >> my >>> phone in a few dys. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph w
Re: diget-eyes
Hi Sarah, You are correct. In fact, the can be upside down, right side up, 90 degrees rotated and very seriously skewed and we will resolve the issue. In fact, for all intents and purposes, the Digit-Eyes package is insensitive to orientation of the code -- there is almost no amount of skew that the system cannot resolve. The approach of holding the phone stable and moving the product in front of it (as described for the idMate below) also works well on Digit-Eyes and at least when people are starting out, we recommend trying this. The autofocus camera on the iPhone 3Gs tends to do better in getting a capture when the item is moving away from it. So we recommend starting by holding (say) the bottom of the box close to the camera and then moving it away from the camera until you get the beep that indicates that a capture has been made. Cordially, Nancy Miracle On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > To my knoledge, the bar code can be upside down and slightly crocked. it I > think emits a click to let yo now if you are getting clode to it and you > just have to look for it but once you know where the bar code is on many > products you are fine. > > S > On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > > With Digit-Eyes, how do you find the bar code? When I was involved with > the development of an accessible bar code system a few years back, cameras > didn't do a good job. For the bar code recognition to work, the camera > couldn't face the bar code at an angle, at it had to be right-side-up. Of > course, a blind person doesn't necessarily know where on the box, can, or > bottle the bar code is to be found, so that creates a challenge. That's > partly why the ID Mate is so expensive. They must use a 3D laser scanner, > like is used in the check-out line at a grocery store. Those perform an > active scan, and can register bar codes at any angle, and even on curved > surfaces. You can basically hold up the scanner and turn the container in > front of the camera, and it will automatically scan the bar code as soon as > it's visible, regardless of the bar code's orientation. > > > > My thoughts were that the iPhone app would be like trying to read a bar > code with a CCD scanner. Yes, it would work but only if you knew where to > find the bar code, which way was right-side-up, and only if the bar code was > on a flat surface. Is it better than that? > > > > Bryan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto: > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:03 AM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone > > > > Hi Bryan and all, > > > > I can say with certainty that the camera on the 3GS works well for the > new bar code reader that Josh Lioncourt was talking about the other day > Digit-Eyes. I have downloaded it and it works well. Not having any > experience with the Iphone 4, I can't say about the cameras. I know it has > two according to Cara Quin's podcast. Have a great day. > > > > Allison > > > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > >> Bryan, > >> > >> From what I have heard, the 3GS camera will do the job even if it is not > as good as the new iPhone 4. I will be very interested in how this > application performs despite the limitations of the 3GS. > >> On Jun 26, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> > >>> The iPhone 4 should do a great job with this app. The 5 megapixel > camera provides the level of resolution that assisted KNFB Reader so much. > With the lower quality cameras, the DPI of scanned images is too low. > >>> > >>> Bryan > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > >>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:30 PM > >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: saytext: new OCR app for IPhone > >>> > >>> No, > >>> > >>> The iPod touch doesn't have a camera. > >>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >>> > Hi, > Will this work with the Ipod Touch also? > Courtney > On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I don't think it's out yet. > > > > I couldn't find it in the app store. > > > > hth > > On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:15 PM, John J Herzog wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> I just got this link from a friend of mine. Apparently, this app is > free, and it performs OCR using the new IPhone. It's different from the one > that emails your image to a server and then gives you back text. This one > actually performs OCR on the phone. > >> Furthermore, it automatically takes pictures once the camera is > aligned with the center of the document. > >> Check out this link for more information. > >> > >> http://www.docscannerapp.com/saytext/ > >> > >> Can someone
Re: firefox accessibility
My point is the more request they receive from various people the more chance they will listen, one can only try and if you do not first succeed ten try again. On 29 Jun 2010, at 14:11, Anne Robertson wrote: > The developers of FireFox don't seem to think that it's an easy matter to > make it accessible to VoiceOver users. This debate has been going on for > several years, so I don't expect to see things improve in the near future. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
I have tried scanning tons of things and all I get are random letters, empty lines and random chars. I'm getting sick of this. and this is the iphone 4. what use is this is one has to have sight to see the document to scan it? thought this was for blind people? On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a > document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a > table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The > software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and > then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. > > The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. > Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was > smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better > results with this document. > Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. > > This is very exciting though. > On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: > >> It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a >> scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You >> need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need >> to raise it slowly. >> >> Earle >> >> Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca >> >> Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican >> - Original Message - >> From: "Cody Hurst" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> >> I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no >> beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the >> only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually >> >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may >>> make it difficult to focus, but then that is >>> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >>> source will also help. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find > that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is > necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do > to the camera, but I do not know for sure > since I do not have one yet. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep >> when anything is in focus >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >> >>> What is the price on this app? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out >>> Thursday? >>> >>> GF >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging >> my >>> phone in a few dys. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >> >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >>> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >>> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >>> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >>> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >>> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >>> >>> regards. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsub
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
This would be very useful for the likes of Pages, Word etc or any document that is marked up including PDFs I am sure we would all enjoy the benefits of navigating documents in the same way we navigate web pages. Point well raised. On 29 Jun 2010, at 11:58, DJ Nezumi wrote: > hi chris > just a suggestion but could we have a headings list in VO? > not just on the web but like in jaws you press insert f7 a headings > list comes up. > this will be useful in such things as word etc. i know that VO isn't > jaws of course but i think this would be useful. > i would appriciate it if you could let me know what you think > thanks > Liam > > Chris Moore wrote: >> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we >> should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >> >> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented >> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >> >> i will get the ball rolling ... >> >> 1. Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it >> can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if >> VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or >> words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover >> knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example >> would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before >> numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not >> some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be said >> for time and measurements etc. >> >> 2. In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank >> on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes >> I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around >> this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the >> user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also >> be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it. >> >> 3. An additional voice. Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, >> the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot >> and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they >> are still there. I would like to see an additional voice added to >> complement Alex, maybe a female voice. This would be useful for reading >> events as some of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task. >> >> 4. Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get >> infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document >> image. Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a >> cloud or its a smiley or sad face etc. >> >> 5. The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you >> have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as >> currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up. >> >> 6. The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) >> after turning the mac off would be very useful. Landmarks has been added to >> the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too? >> >> 7. JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible >> applications accessible. This is not an ideal long term solution but it is >> a temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would >> make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get >> around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines. >> >> 8. A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop. Or >> even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of >> the macbook, enable voiceover to detect that button press and act on it. >> >> 9. When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as >> default to alert the user that they need to enter their password. even >> though VoiceOver might be set as the default to come on once you have >> successfully logged onto the mac, you have to manually set in the accounts >> preferences to enable voiceover to run on the login screen. >> >> Ok over you to guys now... >> >> Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegr
Re: firefox accessibility
The developers of FireFox don't seem to think that it's an easy matter to make it accessible to VoiceOver users. This debate has been going on for several years, so I don't expect to see things improve in the near future. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
Hello Chris, On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Totally agree, all the legacy voices should go (am sure they could be > downloaded if anyone really wanted them) as they are useless. The legacy voices don't use much in the way of resources so getting rid of them would save nothing. > Apple already have a license for international voices as they use them on > the iPhone. Not sure if they are suitable for the Mac, but hopefully this > will be considered. Apparently the licences for the iPhone voices doesn't extend to the Mac. I and many others have been asking for a voice in each of the supported languages for a very long time with no joy. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you cut and paste files, folders adn text on the mac?
Cody Hurst wrote: > You have to copy and then delete rather than cut, you can't delete for some > reason it is grayed out > On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Alfredo wrote: > > > I am am trying to cut and paste some files and oflders from one > > location to antoher in the finder and do not know how. I have tried > > the command+x, to cut the file or folder but this does not work, the > > option is dim when I go tot he menu bar. I know there is a way to cut > > and paste files and folders from one folder to another using the mouse > > but the manual did not explain this correctly and I do not know how to > > do it. Can someone tell me how: > > 1. cut and paste a file or folder using the command+X, and the paste > > command. > > 2. show me how to move a file or folder from one location to another, > > which cuts and paste that file or folder to the new location. > > 2. Tell me how ot cut and paste text. > > > > Any help would be appreciated, again I tried the manual but it was > > confusing. > > Alfredo > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
ok guys I got it to work (did not beep though). What I did was got a document which had text at 14 pt. I stood over the document which was on a table and I could just see through the view finder the whole document. The software automatically looks for the edges of the page and trims them and then checks for orientation, before starting the OCR process. The results were flawless and the software read out every word perfectly. Tried on another document and that was not as successful as the print was smaller. Maybe the better camera on the iPhone 4 could have achieved better results with this document. Going to play with it further and see what else it can pick up. This is very exciting though. On 29 Jun 2010, at 13:52, Earle wrote: > It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a > scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You > need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need > to raise it slowly. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Cody Hurst" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no > beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the > only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may >> make it difficult to focus, but then that is >> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >> source will also help. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >>> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >>> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep > when anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my >> phone in a few dys. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > >> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >> >> regards. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more opt
Re: saytext is available
I've done all of that. what setting am I not turning on On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Earle wrote: > It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a > scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You > need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need > to raise it slowly. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Cody Hurst" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no > beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the > only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may >> make it difficult to focus, but then that is >> an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light >> source will also help. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I >>> tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms >>> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep > when anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my >> phone in a few dys. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > >> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >> >> regards. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups
Re: saytext is available
It will beep. I have an iPhone 3gs, and it beeps for me when I perform a scan. It takes a lot of getting used to. You need to make sure the camera is over the center of the page. You also need to raise it slowly. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca Skype, Twitter, and Facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Cody Hurst" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is > an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light > source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried >> and tried and tried, lifting my arms >> until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >>> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >>> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to >>> the camera, but I do not know for sure >>> since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with > iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone > would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as > explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and > perhaps you would have better luck than me. > > regards. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/gro
Re: saytext is available
This did not beep for me and I have tried every trick in the book. *frown On 29 Jun 2010, at 12:24, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried > and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling > and not a sound came out of the thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to >> beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for >> sure since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when >>> anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my phone in a few dys. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed
RE: VoiceOver 4.0
I suspect it needs each nation's braille authority to tell Apple what needs doing in terms of code, and for standards to be created in terms of representing things on braille displays, which Apple can then implement. The UK Association for Accessible Formats will be looking closely at this area, as I am sure ICEB will. Apple give us the perfect opportunity to sort out the link between braille code and standards development and technology once and for all. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0 Totally agree, all the legacy voices should go (am sure they could be downloaded if anyone really wanted them) as they are useless. Apple already have a license for international voices as they use them on the iPhone. Not sure if they are suitable for the Mac, but hopefully this will be considered. My partner speaks german (second language) and was very impressed when I showed him the language rota on the iphone. I am assuming Alex is not too clever with speaking other languages? I do agree that I do not want to see VoiceOver become bloated. JAWS has become bloated with silly features like built in search and weather etc. JAWS does not take advantage of what the windows os HAS TO offer. I find JAWS would be happier if everything could be done within the application. That is the beauty of Mac and iPhone users, they are prepared to step outside the ring gardened fence approach and use the computer like sighted users would. But a few finishing touches to polish voiceover up a bit would not hurt. Clearly by reading some of the feedback so far a great deal of Braille support is needed for other languages too. I am not a braille user so I can't speak from personal experience, but a great number of you are. I feel confident though that Apple will implement these steps in time. It is just up to us to tell Apple what we want and they will probably come up with an even better and slicker way of doing it. This is what I love about Apple. On 29 Jun 2010, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > Normally i don't comment on these threads, because i'm so very afraid that too many user requests will turn an excelent screen reader into bloatware as the case is with Jaws, which unfortunately has become the defacto for what we blind users want, but there are actually a couple things i'd love to see: > The remembering of hot spots: preferably on a per application basis. This would be helpful in situations where we have to set hot spots to quickly come back to a place where we once were. > And i definitely agree with the suggestion about a new voice, only i want to go a bit further: skip all the ploy voices like bubbles, bells, trinoids, zarvox, hysterical and all the other nonsence and give us international users voices in our own languages such as Swedish, then we even here could enjoy the total freedom of going up to a mac in an apple store and using it as anyone else. > And one thing i don't want to see, and this will probably make most blinks angry: no virtual buffers whatsoever! > /Krister > 27 jun 2010 kl. 07.09 skrev Pete Nalda: > >> 1. Language rotor, so I can hear Spanish, French, and Basque spoken like they should be. Alex and Vicki just don't do it for me, it sounds so sterile. >> 2. Automatic interaction with the text area in Mail. I wonder if another key should be used for stopping speech, as I don't get to use control+2 finger flick to change magnification when VO is running with the trackpad commander. >> >> On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >>> >>> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >>> >>> i will get the ball rolling ... >>> >>> 1. Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be said for time and measurements etc. >>> >>> 2. In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant
Re: saytext is available
I tried scanning a cigarette box, a paper, my shirt, etc etc, and still, no beeps no nothing and I have an iphone 4. the only way one can use this thing is by taking a picture manually On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may > make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have > no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried >> and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling >> and not a sound came out of the thing. >> /Krister >> >> 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >>> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to >>> beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for >>> sure since I do not have one yet. >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when anything is in focus On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > What is the price on this app? > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin > Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? > > GF > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my > phone in a few dys. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and > put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with > iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone > would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as > explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and > perhaps you would have better luck than me. > > regards. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.go
Re: firefox accessibility
If enough of us request it then I am sure they will listen. You have to remember us blind mac folk are a very small community in comparison to our Windows cousins. For things to happen we have to be proactive and contact the developers and request that they add VoiceOver support. More blind people are flocking to the Mac via either word of mouth recommendations, or due to their positive experience of the iPod Nano or iPhone/Ipod Touch. If developers feel there is enough of an audience to put the effort into making their products accessible then I am sure they will. So if you want a product to become accessible then let them know. It is not exactly rocket science to make applications accessible on the Mac, all the help is there on the Apple developers website. On 29 J > Hi do you guys if firefox will be ever accessible in the future that's what i > would like to see. > I use it on the windows side. > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
Totally agree, all the legacy voices should go (am sure they could be downloaded if anyone really wanted them) as they are useless. Apple already have a license for international voices as they use them on the iPhone. Not sure if they are suitable for the Mac, but hopefully this will be considered. My partner speaks german (second language) and was very impressed when I showed him the language rota on the iphone. I am assuming Alex is not too clever with speaking other languages? I do agree that I do not want to see VoiceOver become bloated. JAWS has become bloated with silly features like built in search and weather etc. JAWS does not take advantage of what the windows os HAS TO offer. I find JAWS would be happier if everything could be done within the application. That is the beauty of Mac and iPhone users, they are prepared to step outside the ring gardened fence approach and use the computer like sighted users would. But a few finishing touches to polish voiceover up a bit would not hurt. Clearly by reading some of the feedback so far a great deal of Braille support is needed for other languages too. I am not a braille user so I can't speak from personal experience, but a great number of you are. I feel confident though that Apple will implement these steps in time. It is just up to us to tell Apple what we want and they will probably come up with an even better and slicker way of doing it. This is what I love about Apple. On 29 Jun 2010, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > Normally i don't comment on these threads, because i'm so very afraid that > too many user requests will turn an excelent screen reader into bloatware as > the case is with Jaws, which unfortunately has become the defacto for what we > blind users want, but there are actually a couple things i'd love to see: > The remembering of hot spots: preferably on a per application basis. This > would be helpful in situations where we have to set hot spots to quickly come > back to a place where we once were. > And i definitely agree with the suggestion about a new voice, only i want to > go a bit further: skip all the ploy voices like bubbles, bells, trinoids, > zarvox, hysterical and all the other nonsence and give us international users > voices in our own languages such as Swedish, then we even here could enjoy > the total freedom of going up to a mac in an apple store and using it as > anyone else. > And one thing i don't want to see, and this will probably make most blinks > angry: no virtual buffers whatsoever! > /Krister > 27 jun 2010 kl. 07.09 skrev Pete Nalda: > >> 1. Language rotor, so I can hear Spanish, French, and Basque spoken like >> they should be. Alex and Vicki just don't do it for me, it sounds so >> sterile. >> 2. Automatic interaction with the text area in Mail. I wonder if another >> key should be used for stopping speech, as I don't get to use control+2 >> finger flick to change magnification when VO is running with the trackpad >> commander. >> >> On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we >>> should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >>> >>> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented >>> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >>> >>> i will get the ball rolling ... >>> >>> 1. Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it >>> can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if >>> VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or >>> words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover >>> knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example >>> would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before >>> numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and >>> not some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be >>> said for time and measurements etc. >>> >>> 2. In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank >>> on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes >>> I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around >>> this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the >>> user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also >>> be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it. >>> >>> 3. An additional voice. Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, >>> the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot >>> and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they >>> are still there. I would like to see an additional voice added to >>> complement Alex, maybe a female voice. This would be useful for reading >>> events a
Re: saytext is available
Just make sure you raise it slowly since a radical increase in height may make it difficult to focus, but then that is an assumption on my part, I have no idea, but having a sufficient light source will also help. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried > and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling > and not a sound came out of the thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to >> beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for >> sure since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when >>> anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my phone in a few dys. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this
RE: VoiceOver 4.0
It won't make me angry if we can work efficiently without them. They cause all sorts of problems with dynamic content! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0 Hi, Normally i don't comment on these threads, because i'm so very afraid that too many user requests will turn an excelent screen reader into bloatware as the case is with Jaws, which unfortunately has become the defacto for what we blind users want, but there are actually a couple things i'd love to see: The remembering of hot spots: preferably on a per application basis. This would be helpful in situations where we have to set hot spots to quickly come back to a place where we once were. And i definitely agree with the suggestion about a new voice, only i want to go a bit further: skip all the ploy voices like bubbles, bells, trinoids, zarvox, hysterical and all the other nonsence and give us international users voices in our own languages such as Swedish, then we even here could enjoy the total freedom of going up to a mac in an apple store and using it as anyone else. And one thing i don't want to see, and this will probably make most blinks angry: no virtual buffers whatsoever! /Krister 27 jun 2010 kl. 07.09 skrev Pete Nalda: > 1. Language rotor, so I can hear Spanish, French, and Basque spoken like they should be. Alex and Vicki just don't do it for me, it sounds so sterile. > 2. Automatic interaction with the text area in Mail. I wonder if another key should be used for stopping speech, as I don't get to use control+2 finger flick to change magnification when VO is running with the trackpad commander. > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >> >> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >> >> i will get the ball rolling ... >> >> 1. Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be said for time and measurements etc. >> >> 2. In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it. >> >> 3. An additional voice. Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they are still there. I would like to see an additional voice added to complement Alex, maybe a female voice. This would be useful for reading events as some of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task. >> >> 4. Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document image. Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a cloud or its a smiley or sad face etc. >> >> 5. The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up. >> >> 6. The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) after turning the mac off would be very useful. Landmarks has been added to the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too? >> >> 7. JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible applications accessible. This is not an ideal long term solution but it is a temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines. >> >> 8. A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop. Or even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of the macbook, enable voiceover to detect that button press and act on it. >>
RE: VoiceOver 4.0
Oh as a Jaws user I disagree with that! I would find it much better if you could select what is listed in Item Finder. One keystroke you can use to find all sorts is so much better than all those ones in Jaws. This is one area where Window Eyes beats it hands down! Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ Nezumi Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:58 AM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0 hi chris just a suggestion but could we have a headings list in VO? not just on the web but like in jaws you press insert f7 a headings list comes up. this will be useful in such things as word etc. i know that VO isn't jaws of course but i think this would be useful. i would appriciate it if you could let me know what you think thanks Liam Chris Moore wrote: > Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). > > so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. > > i will get the ball rolling ... > > 1.Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be said for time and measurements etc. > > 2.In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it. > > 3.An additional voice. Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they are still there. I would like to see an additional voice added to complement Alex, maybe a female voice. This would be useful for reading events as some of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task. > > 4.Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document image. Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a cloud or its a smiley or sad face etc. > > 5.The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up. > > 6.The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) after turning the mac off would be very useful. Landmarks has been added to the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too? > > 7.JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible applications accessible. This is not an ideal long term solution but it is a temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines. > > 8.A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop. Or even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of the macbook, enable voiceover to detect that button press and act on it. > > 9.When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as default to alert the user that they need to enter their password. even though VoiceOver might be set as the default to come on once you have successfully logged onto the mac, you have to manually set in the accounts preferences to enable voiceover to run on the login screen. > > Ok over you to guys now... > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: saytext is available
Hi, Ok finally got it to work. lol. Scott was right. You got to raise the phone pretty high. I got about 3 or 4 words I could understand in every sentence. I'm using the iPhone 4 with the 5mp camera. I could fill-in the blanks and figure out what the document was about but that was it. On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Earle wrote: > Like I said on the viphone list, I did get saytext to work on a 32 gb 3gs. > My results were far from perfect, but I was > able to get the basics of the document. I don't know what phone the guy in > the video was using, but I didn't get the > kind of results he did. It also took me a lot longer to bring the page in > focus. The app does beep and take the > picture automatically though, and you need lots of light. > > Earle > > Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca > > skype, twitter and facebook: rowdyamerican > - Original Message - > From: "Krister Ekstrom" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: saytext is available > > > Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried > and tried and tried, lifting my arms until > they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. > /Krister > > 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > >> It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find >> that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is >> necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to >> the camera, but I do not know for sure >> since I do not have one yet. >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >> >>> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when >>> anything is in focus >>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >>> What is the price on this app? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: saytext is available is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. > > Take care. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my phone in a few dys. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better luck than me. regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?
Re: saytext is available
Like I said on the viphone list, I did get saytext to work on a 32 gb 3gs. My results were far from perfect, but I was able to get the basics of the document. I don't know what phone the guy in the video was using, but I didn't get the kind of results he did. It also took me a lot longer to bring the page in focus. The app does beep and take the picture automatically though, and you need lots of light. Earle Msn: peterson...@sympatico.ca skype, twitter and facebook: rowdyamerican - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: Re: saytext is available Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that > raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is > necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to > the camera, but I do not know for sure > since I do not have one yet. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when >> anything is in focus >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >> >>> What is the price on this app? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? >>> >>> GF >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my >>> phone in a few dys. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >> >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >>> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >>> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >>> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >>> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >>> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >>> >>> regards. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>
Re: saytext is available
Hi, Have you actually managed to make the app beep on an Iphone 3gs? I tried and tried and tried, lifting my arms until they almost reached the seiling and not a sound came out of the thing. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 12.55 skrev Scott Howell: > It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that > raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The > iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since > I do not have one yet. > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when >> anything is in focus >> On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: >> >>> What is the price on this app? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: saytext is available >>> >>> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? >>> >>> GF >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. Take care. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my >>> phone in a few dys. >> >> S >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: >> >>> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >>> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >>> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >>> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >>> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >>> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >>> >>> regards. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group
Re: saytext is available
Hi, Ok then it's not me that's stupid then, relieved sigh, i had the same results using an Iphone 3gS. There's nothing about requirements in the store, at least not as i'm aware of, so i downloaded it, as talked about in another post here. /Krister 29 jun 2010 kl. 03.29 skrev joseph: > hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and put > in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with iphone 3gs > but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone would not beep to > tell me that the document is in focus as explained in the youtube > demo. I hope someone els can try it and perhaps you would have better > luck than me. > > regards. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver and Apple Script
hi all i was wondering if you could clear something up for me. what exactly is apple script and how do you make your own scripts? also i've heard that you can upload your scripts to other users. apple states this on their website but ive never found out where or how you do it. thanks Liam Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Just a common misconception. > > VoiceOver does not have to be allowed to use AppleScript to use the Keyboard > commander. This may be true for some AppleScripts, however my custom ones > seem to work fine without it checked. Only difference is that it will tell > you information through your system voice, and not VoiceOVer, as an example. > This means you can have one voice for VoiceOver, and whatever settings are > used for your system speech will be used with keyboard commander. > > I just wanted to clarify here as a tip. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Linda Adams wrote: > > > Fonzie, > > > > In addition to checking scripts, my "cheat sheet" also says the keyboard > > commander in VO utilities has to be "enabled." > > > > HTH > > Linda > > > > -Original Message- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fonzie > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:24 PM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: VoiceOver and Apple Script > > > > > > Hey all, I hope everyone is well. > > > > Been a while since I have posted to the list. > > > > Anywho, a friend of mine recently got a mac, and he go the new mac, with > > the wireless keyboard and mouse. > > > > Everything was set up fine, but when I told him he could get the time by > > using Option + T while voiceover was running, the command did not work. > > > > I made sure to have him check the "Allow VoiceOver to be controlled by > > AppleScript" in the VoiceOver Utility, but still no dice. > > > > Any idea as to why this is not working as it should? > > > > I know it iis an apple script, but as I remember it, when I loaded Snow > > Leopard, my scripts worked out of the box. > > > > Help is appreciated if you have experienced this issue before, or have > > some general direction of what I could have him do. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Take care. > > > > Fonzie > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to > > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2956 - Release Date: 06/22/10 > > 18:36:00 > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
Hi, Normally i don't comment on these threads, because i'm so very afraid that too many user requests will turn an excelent screen reader into bloatware as the case is with Jaws, which unfortunately has become the defacto for what we blind users want, but there are actually a couple things i'd love to see: The remembering of hot spots: preferably on a per application basis. This would be helpful in situations where we have to set hot spots to quickly come back to a place where we once were. And i definitely agree with the suggestion about a new voice, only i want to go a bit further: skip all the ploy voices like bubbles, bells, trinoids, zarvox, hysterical and all the other nonsence and give us international users voices in our own languages such as Swedish, then we even here could enjoy the total freedom of going up to a mac in an apple store and using it as anyone else. And one thing i don't want to see, and this will probably make most blinks angry: no virtual buffers whatsoever! /Krister 27 jun 2010 kl. 07.09 skrev Pete Nalda: > 1. Language rotor, so I can hear Spanish, French, and Basque spoken like they > should be. Alex and Vicki just don't do it for me, it sounds so sterile. > 2. Automatic interaction with the text area in Mail. I wonder if another key > should be used for stopping speech, as I don't get to use control+2 finger > flick to change magnification when VO is running with the trackpad commander. > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we >> should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >> >> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented >> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >> >> i will get the ball rolling ... >> >> 1. Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it >> can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if >> VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or >> words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover >> knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example >> would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before >> numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not >> some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be said >> for time and measurements etc. >> >> 2. In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank >> on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes >> I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around >> this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the >> user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also >> be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it. >> >> 3. An additional voice. Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, >> the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot >> and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they >> are still there. I would like to see an additional voice added to >> complement Alex, maybe a female voice. This would be useful for reading >> events as some of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task. >> >> 4. Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get >> infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document >> image. Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a >> cloud or its a smiley or sad face etc. >> >> 5. The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you >> have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as >> currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up. >> >> 6. The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) >> after turning the mac off would be very useful. Landmarks has been added to >> the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too? >> >> 7. JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible >> applications accessible. This is not an ideal long term solution but it is >> a temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would >> make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get >> around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines. >> >> 8. A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop. Or >> even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of >> the macbook, enable voiceover to detect that button press and act on it. >> >> 9. When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as >> default to alert the user that they need to enter their password. even >> though VoiceOver might be set as the default to c
firefox accessibility
Hi do you guys if firefox will be ever accessible in the future that's what i would like to see. I use it on the windows side. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
hi chris just a suggestion but could we have a headings list in VO? not just on the web but like in jaws you press insert f7 a headings list comes up. this will be useful in such things as word etc. i know that VO isn't jaws of course but i think this would be useful. i would appriciate it if you could let me know what you think thanks Liam Chris Moore wrote: > Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we > should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). > > so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented > into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. > > i will get the ball rolling ... > > 1.Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it > can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if > VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or > words. For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover > knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years. Another example > would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before > numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not > some huge number containing millions and thousands. The same could be said > for time and measurements etc. > > 2.In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank blank > on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell. yes I > know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get around this, > but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant unless the user > wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it would also be > useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening it. > > 3.An additional voice. Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and slow, > the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year dot > and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why they > are still there. I would like to see an additional voice added to complement > Alex, maybe a female voice. This would be useful for reading events as some > of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task. > > 4.Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I get > infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document image. > Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a cloud or its > a smiley or sad face etc. > > 5.The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you > have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as > currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up. > > 6.The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website basis) > after turning the mac off would be very useful. Landmarks has been added to > the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too? > > 7.JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible > applications accessible. This is not an ideal long term solution but it is a > temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would > make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get > around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines. > > 8.A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop. Or > even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of the > macbook, enable voiceover to detect that button press and act on it. > > 9.When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as > default to alert the user that they need to enter their password. even > though VoiceOver might be set as the default to come on once you have > successfully logged onto the mac, you have to manually set in the accounts > preferences to enable voiceover to run on the login screen. > > Ok over you to guys now... > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: saytext is available
It will beep and you do not need to hit the camera button. You will find that raising it about 1 to 1.5 feet is necessary before it will begin to beep. The iPhone 4 may be different do to the camera, but I do not know for sure since I do not have one yet. On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: > it is free but when I click the camera button it doesn't seem to beep when > anything is in focus > On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Simon F wrote: > >> What is the price on this app? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin >> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 3:21 p.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: saytext is available >> >> is it really the finished one? I thought it was due to come out Thursday? >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure it will work on the iphone though yet the iphone 3 anyways. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> S >>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hey, the price is right :-) I just got it. Now to try it. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't have saytext but it will go on my wishlist as I'm exchnging my >> phone in a few dys. > > S > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, joseph wrote: > >> hi listers, finally, saytext is there. head to the app store and >> put in the surch box, "saytext doc scanner". I tested it with >> iphone 3gs but found that OCR results are bad. Also, the phone >> would not beep to tell me that the document is in focus as >> explained in the youtube demo. I hope someone els can try it and >> perhaps you would have better luck than me. >> >> regards. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://gro
Re: vmware question about keyboard grab
Hi. I wouldn't advise Voice Over and your virtual machine screen reader running at the same time as your Mac might struggle. Also your window keys may not work properly if you have voice over on. Best to turn it off. Kawal. On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:00 -0400, "Cody Hurst" wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to know if I am able to have vmware fusion and voiceover running > at the same time without having to shut voiceover off jsut to get the > keyboard tow rok. zi'm trying to install open solaris and part of the > accessible install instructions says to arrow down 6 times and then press > enter, but I don't see the highlighter in the menuy. all it does is go > into an endless loop to coming back to that menu. any help is appreciated > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype User ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pages09
Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word. Can you provide some step by step procedures? Thanks so much. On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder wrote: > I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other > objects with little or no difficulty. When they are floating, they are found > in the lay-out area. Also, you can convert an in-line table to text and back > again. A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line charictors as > rows. You can also create a table in this way and convert it to an in-line > table. > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > > > > Hello Paul, > > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote: > >> I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like > >> to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0 > >> 2.1 2.2. etc. > > Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind. > > >> I also like to use tables in my documents and to write > >> letters and memos. > > Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't see > > and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages documents. > > However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you can copy it > > into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, then copy it > > back again. Messy, but doable. > > >> Finally, I like to create address lists that I can > >> translate into > >> Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge > >> facilities. > > Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to > > spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09. > > >> Finally, are their more templates available for pages09 > >> that are not in the template chooser? > > I don't think so, but you can create your own. > > >> Do you also use numbers? > > Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it. > > > I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents. > > > I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver. > > > Cheers, > > > Anne > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
vmware question about keyboard grab
Hi all, I want to know if I am able to have vmware fusion and voiceover running at the same time without having to shut voiceover off jsut to get the keyboard tow rok. zi'm trying to install open solaris and part of the accessible install instructions says to arrow down 6 times and then press enter, but I don't see the highlighter in the menuy. all it does is go into an endless loop to coming back to that menu. any help is appreciated -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
apple loop utility
Hi do you guys know of any apple loop utility? I'm importing wav files into garage band and my samples don't sync. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: say it
I have just downloaded it to my iPhone 3GS and it did not beep and I could not get it to read a thing. Good lighting conditions and 12 point font and the best it came up with was / ? , and that was it for the entire document. I did tap to auto focus, did the trick where you place the phone into the centre of the document and then lift vertically to about 30 cm away from the document. Really pleased I did not pay for this app, but hopefully it will improve. Is it better on the iPhone 4? On 29 Jun 2010, at 09:57, Simon F wrote: > So this app for the iPhone “say it” I think it was called. > > If I have it correct, this will let you take a snap shot of a document and > then using OCR will convert it into a automatically read out audio of the > text. > > A free version of the knfb reader mobile for the Symbian devices. Is that > correct? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
say it
So this app for the iPhone "say it" I think it was called. If I have it correct, this will let you take a snap shot of a document and then using OCR will convert it into a automatically read out audio of the text. A free version of the knfb reader mobile for the Symbian devices. Is that correct? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Focus blue and pressing delete.
Hi. I had to do it a couple of times, the pin is for the blue display. But you got to be fairly quick about it it seems. Kindest regards, Jesper. - Original Message - From: "Justin Thornton" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Focus blue and pressing delete. hi I am having an issue when I try to pair the focus 40 blue via bluetooth to my macbook pro I get stuck in a password or pin edit box no matter what pin I use: : 1234: nothing seems to work everytime I hit the pair/connect button I get thrown back to the same place can someone please help!! On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Jesper Holten wrote: Hi all. When typing away on a focus blue display attached via bluetooth to my Imac, I seem not to find a key keycombination that can delete what I have written. No forward or backward delete. And I cannot figure out how to assign a braille key to that function. Any help would b be greatly appreciatedThank you, Jesper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Batch Braille translation and continued issue with Brailleconnect
Hi list, Is there a program that can batch-translate multiple Word or rich text files into grade 2 Braille? I've tried Louis, but it can only do one at a time. I'm using a Braille display with my cell phone and didn't find out until I got the display that it can only show uncontracted Braille with Talks. At least, nothing I've tried has changed it to grade 2 output. So the only way I can read my files contracted is to convert them to .brl first, and I'd prefer not to do it one file at a time. Any suggestions? My Brailleconnect still shows up as unknown and won't work with VO, so if anyone has thoughts on that, too, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Jessie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver 4.0
Now I never knew about that touchpad shortcut with the control key etc, just tried it and it works a treat. My 27 inch iMac is becoming more redundant by the day. I hope they bring out a usb touchpad so I can ditch the useless mouse. On 29 Jun 2010, at 02:06, Michael Thurman wrote: > if you are reading something, or even if youare not with the track pad > commander turned on you can control speech rate by holding down control and > turning the rotor then when you let go the speech continues > optin does pitch command does volume > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> I was somehow blissfully not aware of the ability to switch speech rate and >> language without going into the voiceover utility. Now that I know about it, >> I will definitely use it. >> >> mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where Is The Delete Or Backspace Keys Located?
Hi. The delete is space+d you know the spacebar is located over the 6 braille buttons. Best regards Annie. 2010/6/29, Georges Zaynoun : > Hello! > When I type on BrailleConnect12 on the iPod Touch and make mistakes it > is obvious that I want to backspace or delete, I cannot for the life of > me find any combination that makes that so does anybody has a > suggestion other than clearing the whole text, or where can I find > these buttons on the touch screen directly? Thanks to the person who > suggested chord e to open web sites. > > -- > Georges Zaynoun > Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE > Tel: +46500201623 > Mobile: +46707567315 > E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
