Re: problem with timezone change

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello. I think you just type in teh citty where you are changing to and it 
should work. I cannot remember how I did it when I went on vacation as that was 
about 6 months ago. lol!
On Dec 12, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> I was just setting up kerberos on my network and found a standard issue which 
> would be resolvable in a whiff were it that the timezone feature in the date 
> and time system preference allowed for it.
> 
> This totally slipped from my aprehension of the OS and before resorting to 
> terminal commands, i was wondering if anyone knew how to go around this.
> 
> Otherwise, any pointers on changing timezones via terminal are also welcome. 
> Oh wait, i'll just look into it myself :)
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Yuma DX®
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problem with timezone change

2010-12-12 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi list,

I was just setting up kerberos on my network and found a standard issue which 
would be resolvable in a whiff were it that the timezone feature in the date 
and time system preference allowed for it.

This totally slipped from my aprehension of the OS and before resorting to 
terminal commands, i was wondering if anyone knew how to go around this.

Otherwise, any pointers on changing timezones via terminal are also welcome. Oh 
wait, i'll just look into it myself :)

Best regards,

Yuma DX®


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Re: Asking a recently discussed question, moving ring tones to iTunes

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
Marlaina,

Where did you get the ringtones from?  Are they iPhone ringtones?  Yes, the m4r 
format is a ringtone, but there's more to it if you wish it to be an iPhone 
ringtone.

What process are you using to get them into your Ringtones area in iTunes?

Sorry for all the questions, but I like to answer things properly.

Later...

On 2010-12-12, at 6:49 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> I'm so sorry to ask this as we just discussed it recently, but I am not 
> having success moving my ring tones into my iTunes ring tones folder.  They 
> show up as m4r and command i tells me they are ring tones; I thought that was 
> all I had to do to get them into my iTunes ring tones area but it is not 
> working.  What am I missing?
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Jenny Wood
Wow, you don't get bored, do you? :-)  I have loads of music, books, some 
movies, but am just now finding my way around the world of podcasts.  Thanks 
again for your help!  


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On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Jane wrote:

> Not a problem; took me an hour of experimenting before I got it right. I hate 
> that Apple makes you do that. I have a podcast that is over 400 episodes 
> long, so imagine how long gthat list is! All told I have 609 podcasts on the 
> iPad, plus 94iTunesU episodes, plus books, songs and apps.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Jane,
>> 
>> Thanks, you're awesome!  I had done everything but change the setting to tex 
>> listview.  Problem solved. :-)  
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jenny Wood
>> Phone:   (972) 989-3894
>> Email:   kc5...@gmail.com
>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:  kc5gni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jane wrote:
>> 
>>> I had to se the view to text list view; it's the only way to bring up the 
>>> option you want.  Also, remember to interact with 
>>> control-option-shift-down-arrow on the episode you want to download, then 
>>> do control-option-shift-m and use your arrow keys. Hit return on the 
>>> download podcast episode option and it will work.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>> 
 Strange thing is, that's exactly what I tried.  When I perform a 
 vo-shift-M on the episode I wish to download, the only options I have are 
 "small", "medium" and "large."  I am definitely missing something. 
 
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 On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Just select the row where the podcast is at interact and hit vo shift ma 
> nd choose download podcast episode. You have to do this anyway if you 
> have a failed download and you want to grab only those.
> 
> S
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
>> I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading 
>> specific podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four 
>> or five podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of 
>> the episodes available at this time.  So, how does one go about 
>> selecting specific episodes to download?  Or can it be done?  
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jenny Wood
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Re: Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Jane
Not a problem; took me an hour of experimenting before I got it right. I hate 
that Apple makes you do that. I have a podcast that is over 400 episodes long, 
so imagine how long gthat list is! All told I have 609 podcasts on the iPad, 
plus 94iTunesU episodes, plus books, songs and apps.

Jane


On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Jane,
> 
> Thanks, you're awesome!  I had done everything but change the setting to tex 
> listview.  Problem solved. :-)  
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Jenny Wood
> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jane wrote:
> 
>> I had to se the view to text list view; it's the only way to bring up the 
>> option you want.  Also, remember to interact with 
>> control-option-shift-down-arrow on the episode you want to download, then do 
>> control-option-shift-m and use your arrow keys. Hit return on the download 
>> podcast episode option and it will work.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>> 
>>> Strange thing is, that's exactly what I tried.  When I perform a vo-shift-M 
>>> on the episode I wish to download, the only options I have are "small", 
>>> "medium" and "large."  I am definitely missing something. 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Jenny Wood
>>> Phone:  (972) 989-3894
>>> Email:  kc5...@gmail.com
>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Just select the row where the podcast is at interact and hit vo shift ma 
 nd choose download podcast episode. You have to do this anyway if you have 
 a failed download and you want to grab only those.
 
 S
 On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
 
> Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
> I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading 
> specific podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four 
> or five podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of 
> the episodes available at this time.  So, how does one go about selecting 
> specific episodes to download?  Or can it be done?  
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Jenny Wood
> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
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Re: Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Jenny Wood
Jane,

Thanks, you're awesome!  I had done everything but change the setting to tex 
listview.  Problem solved. :-)  

Thank you!


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On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jane wrote:

> I had to se the view to text list view; it's the only way to bring up the 
> option you want.  Also, remember to interact with 
> control-option-shift-down-arrow on the episode you want to download, then do 
> control-option-shift-m and use your arrow keys. Hit return on the download 
> podcast episode option and it will work.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Strange thing is, that's exactly what I tried.  When I perform a vo-shift-M 
>> on the episode I wish to download, the only options I have are "small", 
>> "medium" and "large."  I am definitely missing something. 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jenny Wood
>> Phone:   (972) 989-3894
>> Email:   kc5...@gmail.com
>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:  kc5gni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Just select the row where the podcast is at interact and hit vo shift ma nd 
>>> choose download podcast episode. You have to do this anyway if you have a 
>>> failed download and you want to grab only those.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
 I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading 
 specific podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four or 
 five podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of the 
 episodes available at this time.  So, how does one go about selecting 
 specific episodes to download?  Or can it be done?  
 
 Thank you!
 
 
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Mary Otten
If one wishes to buy the IPal and knows they want the Mac software, they can 
choose that option when purchasing from the abisee site, so no extra charge. 
But if you have the Windows software and also want the Mac, then it apparently 
costs extra. I assume that if you have the Mac software and want it for 
windows, the same would be true.

Mary

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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Dan:
There are two and actually 3 programs in this thread:
The first is a scanning device known as the eye-pal, which works in 
conjunctionn with a pc or Mac to easily scan and read printed material. The 
issue with that is the software to make it work on a Mac appears to require an 
additional $150.
The second program is one that does both scanning and OCR.  It's name is 
Vuescan, and it costs around $40.  Drawbacks are that it worked  well in trial 
but not so once I downloaded the updates.  Also, It doesn't address 
orientation.  So, you might have difficulty if you don't know which way a page 
is supposed to be oriented.  

finally, the third program being discussed isAbbyy which apparently has the 
best OCR, but has to be fed an image from either vuescan, or  iPhoto.
The printer mentioned apparently works with Abbyy.
HTH
Carolyn
]On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Dan Roy wrote:

> So, if I go out and buy an Epson TX110 and Abby I should be able to use it 
> without VuScan?
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> My Epson TX110, standard at 100 dollars does the job perfectly With abbey 
>> fine reader.
>> 
>> 
>> I don't want to insist with a dialogue which may jeopardize people's belief 
>> in a device which does, irespective of price or squalor of features, very 
>> interesting as there is a paltry ammount of books available over the net, 
>> especially those that i look for.
>> 
>> But it also, at least for me, come to personal dignity. I don't want to go 
>> and beg for charity at this or that organization for a device which can 
>> rationally and marketably be proposed for half the price if not more with 
>> solid components. A church or a beneficial organization can instead then 
>> concentrate on real applications and research to benefit all the blind 
>> people at mid term instead of benefitting the little portion of blind people 
>> who will go to lengths to apply for subsidies and other protracted measures 
>> aimed at giving governements the clout to claim equality of rights. This 
>> money is not wanted, at from my perspective, as it creates an enteprise 
>> which is not up to par with what is really possible to do. Take for example 
>> the US government which shifted it's internal systems from buggy, slow and 
>> extremely expensive software from contractors to a mainstream platform. This 
>> is exactly what i mean though i can't criticize a device i have never 
>> touched and am just using this as a general direction .
>> 
>> As for the makers of JAWS, i find it satirycal obviously and blatantly 
>> ludicrous and effectively wasting subsidy money to spend a year's worth of 
>> developement for a ffeature which allows you to Check basball and hockey 
>> scores. This totally broke the deal for me at a point when i thought i might 
>> have to get it for my cross platform network setup. Honestly, do they really 
>> think blind people are just cultured for baseball and hockey? It's such a an 
>> ironic situation that i almost cried after laughing my butt off listening to 
>> the freedom scientific guys talk about it's rich features in looking into 
>> details of the pro baseball season.
>> 
>> On the other hand, this clarifies a much better view of the blind community. 
>> There are many elderly blind individuals who have had sight before and were 
>> probably fans of those sports, and this is where the money is going, feature 
>> requests. And therefore those organizations with money are pouring it in for 
>> basball and not interactivity or solutions to help younger blind users 
>> increase their cultures and capacities. Make them batmen and not baseballers.
>> 
>> Sorry i'm getting carried away, i hope things go well with the eyepal and 
>> perhaps i will still drop by my center to ask if they have one to demo, at 
>> least i will have a concise opinion that will then be backed by all of the 
>> above, or i can shut my mouth for all the reasons aforementioned :)
>> 
>> best regards,
>> 
>> Yuma DX®
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Re: Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Jane
I had to se the view to text list view; it's the only way to bring up the 
option you want.  Also, remember to interact with 
control-option-shift-down-arrow on the episode you want to download, then do 
control-option-shift-m and use your arrow keys. Hit return on the download 
podcast episode option and it will work.

Jane


On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Strange thing is, that's exactly what I tried.  When I perform a vo-shift-M 
> on the episode I wish to download, the only options I have are "small", 
> "medium" and "large."  I am definitely missing something. 
> 
> --
> 
> Jenny Wood
> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Just select the row where the podcast is at interact and hit vo shift ma nd 
>> choose download podcast episode. You have to do this anyway if you have a 
>> failed download and you want to grab only those.
>> 
>> S
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
>>> I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading 
>>> specific podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four or 
>>> five podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of the 
>>> episodes available at this time.  So, how does one go about selecting 
>>> specific episodes to download?  Or can it be done?  
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Jenny Wood
>>> Phone:  (972) 989-3894
>>> Email:  kc5...@gmail.com
>>> Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Asking a recently discussed question, moving ring tones to iTunes

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
Did you rename them to .m4r files?

Take care.

S
On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> I'm so sorry to ask this as we just discussed it recently, but I am not 
> having success moving my ring tones into my iTunes ring tones folder.  They 
> show up as m4r and command i tells me they are ring tones; I thought that was 
> all I had to do to get them into my iTunes ring tones area but it is not 
> working.  What am I missing?
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Yuma Decaux
No you need to use image scan first to scan the document then use abbey fine 
reader.


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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Dan Roy
So, if I go out and buy an Epson TX110 and Abby I should be able to use it 
without VuScan?


On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> My Epson TX110, standard at 100 dollars does the job perfectly With abbey 
> fine reader.
> 
> 
> I don't want to insist with a dialogue which may jeopardize people's belief 
> in a device which does, irespective of price or squalor of features, very 
> interesting as there is a paltry ammount of books available over the net, 
> especially those that i look for.
> 
> But it also, at least for me, come to personal dignity. I don't want to go 
> and beg for charity at this or that organization for a device which can 
> rationally and marketably be proposed for half the price if not more with 
> solid components. A church or a beneficial organization can instead then 
> concentrate on real applications and research to benefit all the blind people 
> at mid term instead of benefitting the little portion of blind people who 
> will go to lengths to apply for subsidies and other protracted measures aimed 
> at giving governements the clout to claim equality of rights. This money is 
> not wanted, at from my perspective, as it creates an enteprise which is not 
> up to par with what is really possible to do. Take for example the US 
> government which shifted it's internal systems from buggy, slow and extremely 
> expensive software from contractors to a mainstream platform. This is exactly 
> what i mean though i can't criticize a device i have never touched and am 
> just using this as a general direction .
> 
> As for the makers of JAWS, i find it satirycal obviously and blatantly 
> ludicrous and effectively wasting subsidy money to spend a year's worth of 
> developement for a ffeature which allows you to Check basball and hockey 
> scores. This totally broke the deal for me at a point when i thought i might 
> have to get it for my cross platform network setup. Honestly, do they really 
> think blind people are just cultured for baseball and hockey? It's such a an 
> ironic situation that i almost cried after laughing my butt off listening to 
> the freedom scientific guys talk about it's rich features in looking into 
> details of the pro baseball season.
> 
> On the other hand, this clarifies a much better view of the blind community. 
> There are many elderly blind individuals who have had sight before and were 
> probably fans of those sports, and this is where the money is going, feature 
> requests. And therefore those organizations with money are pouring it in for 
> basball and not interactivity or solutions to help younger blind users 
> increase their cultures and capacities. Make them batmen and not baseballers.
> 
> Sorry i'm getting carried away, i hope things go well with the eyepal and 
> perhaps i will still drop by my center to ask if they have one to demo, at 
> least i will have a concise opinion that will then be backed by all of the 
> above, or i can shut my mouth for all the reasons aforementioned :)
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Yuma DX®
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RE: Mac time capsule

2010-12-12 Thread Frank Ventura
Thanks, I appreciate the info.
Frank

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Subject: Re: Mac time capsule

It should support 802.11 N as well as B & G.  You can confirm this in
the Wireless pane of the Airport Utility.

Later...

On 2010-12-12, at 4:57 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

> Hi all, we have an older 512mb Time Capsule. Does anyone know if this
> can support wireless N or only wirelss G?
> Thanks
> Frank
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Asking a recently discussed question, moving ring tones to iTunes

2010-12-12 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
I'm so sorry to ask this as we just discussed it recently, but I am not having 
success moving my ring tones into my iTunes ring tones folder.  They show up as 
m4r and command i tells me they are ring tones; I thought that was all I had to 
do to get them into my iTunes ring tones area but it is not working.  What am I 
missing?

Thank you again.

Marlaina

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Re: Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Jenny Wood
Strange thing is, that's exactly what I tried.  When I perform a vo-shift-M on 
the episode I wish to download, the only options I have are "small", "medium" 
and "large."  I am definitely missing something. 

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On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Just select the row where the podcast is at interact and hit vo shift ma nd 
> choose download podcast episode. You have to do this anyway if you have a 
> failed download and you want to grab only those.
> 
> S
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:
> 
>> Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
>> I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading 
>> specific podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four or 
>> five podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of the 
>> episodes available at this time.  So, how does one go about selecting 
>> specific episodes to download?  Or can it be done?  
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> 
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread heather kd5cbl
That is a lot of money just to scan printed materials!  It sounds like the 
old arcanstone days!  Heather
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: My Eyepal demo is here.



Thanks, it looks like you can get the Mac software for $150.00 from that
download page if I am reading it correctly.
Frank

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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 11:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

Hi Erik,

I'm not sure where you might have read that you have to pay for the mac
software, since it is available for download directly from the abisee
support page. Here is the link

http://www.abisee.com/support/software.html

I'm not sure why it's such a huge download though. It's about a
gigabyte. Anyway, I downloaded it when it first came out but haven't had
the opportunity to connect my eyepal and try it out yet.

Hope this helps.


On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Well boys and girls...  I was all gung hoe to spend the morning with my
demo eyepal, testing it on various printed material and working up a
podcast on the thing.  Unfortunately when I got it out the box I
discovered that mac software was not included.  Further to my
irritation, there's no demo download of the thing.  You have to buy it
for $150.  I dano guys this could be a show stopper for me.  I don't
really want to give up on the eyepal just yet, but I don't want to get
ripped off either.  It's just unbelievably irritating to have the thing
sit here and not be able to play with it.  I might have to rig up a
windows solution just to try it out, but that really wasn't the idea at
all.

Shrugs,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
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Re: Mac time capsule

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
It should support 802.11 N as well as B & G.  You can confirm this in the 
Wireless pane of the Airport Utility.

Later...

On 2010-12-12, at 4:57 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

> Hi all, we have an older 512mb Time Capsule. Does anyone know if this
> can support wireless N or only wirelss G?
> Thanks
> Frank
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here:

I am using an older head set, a Jabra BT 250 VT.  It is my favorite headset 
because of the way it doesn't intrude or block the ambient and has great sound 
quality and stays on my ear just fine.  But it only responds to calls.

The newer Bluetooth headset, also a Jabra, called the Stone, has terrible 
battery life, two or three hours of talk time, stays less well on my ear, but 
lets me hear everything.

Well, I think the Stone is going away in favor of one of the Plantronics 
headsets.  Anyone have experience with a Plantronics 550 Pro or something like 
that?  Can one hear properly in the ambient while using it, etc?  One of the 
Plantronics headsets advertised an eight hour battery time for talk.  That 
would work for doing E-mail and reading and such.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


- Original Message - 
From: "Marlaina Lieberg" <1guide...@gmail.com>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 13:36
Subject: Re: iPhone headset


What does A2DP stand for?  

Thanks.

Marlaina

On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know they 
need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will address 
this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets on the 
market.
Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
> 
> Kawal. 
> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
>> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
>> 
>> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
>> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
>> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
>> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all 
>> the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, 
>> without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
>> 
>> `
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> MSN: n...@clicktrack.be
>> Skype: Nickvv
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Re: papa sangre and how its done

2010-12-12 Thread Scott Howell
I agree and also add my thanks Yuma. It just goes to show that such thinking is 
where true innovation leads.
Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Thanks Yuma for making these efforts.  It's really awesome to know that 
> developers like you are thinking outside the box in order to provide such an 
> experience for more than just the mainstream user.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> On 2010-12-12, at 2:06 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> This is mostly speculative but being in the games industry for a while, and 
>> having gone through countless reflections on how to make a 3D FPS work for 
>> blind people, i think i can understand how the process has been, and there 
>> is really good news on this.
>> 
>> We at our studio use a platform called unity which allows for importing full 
>> 3d scenes into the game engine and relying on bounding boxes, physics and 
>> clever scripting, we can create a full fledged game with the help of the 
>> platform. Another one which is way better in comparison, and having native 
>> openGL as well as objective c fremworks is on the way, called UnrealEDIT.
>> 
>> The similarities between these two platforms is that both make extensive use 
>> of 3D audio, itself very easy to implement provided a concise method is 
>> adopted. Bounding boxes in 3D space emit sounds and cue thanks to 
>> interasction between boxes and spheres which triger specific events.
>> 
>> So the process here of creating a 3D game in audio for blind people is 
>> actually straight-forward, Hi-jacking what is already being implemented in 
>> graphic context, adding custom code for accessibility and routing full power 
>> to audio instead of graphics to increase audio quality.
>> 
>> I am really excited to feel how the guys at papa sangre have implemented the 
>> navigation scheme as this has been a long standing reflection for me and my 
>> team. There are a bucketload of ways to make it happen, some more intuitive 
>> than others but being less interactive, and others completely loyal to 
>> classic FPS navigation but being a pain on a touchscreen.
>> 
>> This is good as it will fuel our motivation to continue developement on the 
>> game we have thought up, and search for funding for it.
>> 
>> Best 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Scott Howell
I agree Yuma that Apple scripts could be really useful here. If I ever find a 
good book and time to learn, I might have to try this out.
Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> When we speak of multiple steps for operating a scan ocr compouund, i believe 
> automator or applescript are very powerful to make it happen as quick and 
> easy as those devices, minus the speed performance of the scans themselves.
> 
> If you look at the workflow in laymen, here is what i see:
> 
> Add action to folder or service
> 
> open image scan
> 
> Scan item with preconfigured settings IE 150DPI save file as and location.
> This part can actually be braught up before any action is taken for 
> customizability via an applescript created window with two fields:
> -language
> -filename
> 
> Make an else if condition on whether the scan is finished, ie when the jpg is 
> created.
> 
> Once it is, open with abbey fine reader, save as file on preconfigured folder 
> with settings found for abbey fine reader in the applescript extensions.
> 
> Delete jpg file 
> 
> 
> To this, you can add another folder action which appends consecutive files 
> and exports the whole rtf to a pdf.
> 
> 
> Problem is, no-one here has the time to write it down. I wanted to yesterday 
> for a while, but i got so many things going on that i can only try to pass 
> the torch to someone else :(
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RE: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Frank Ventura
Thanks, it looks like you can get the Mac software for $150.00 from that
download page if I am reading it correctly.
Frank

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Subject: Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

Hi Erik,

I'm not sure where you might have read that you have to pay for the mac
software, since it is available for download directly from the abisee
support page. Here is the link

http://www.abisee.com/support/software.html

I'm not sure why it's such a huge download though. It's about a
gigabyte. Anyway, I downloaded it when it first came out but haven't had
the opportunity to connect my eyepal and try it out yet.

Hope this helps.


On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Well boys and girls...  I was all gung hoe to spend the morning with my
demo eyepal, testing it on various printed material and working up a
podcast on the thing.  Unfortunately when I got it out the box I
discovered that mac software was not included.  Further to my
irritation, there's no demo download of the thing.  You have to buy it
for $150.  I dano guys this could be a show stopper for me.  I don't
really want to give up on the eyepal just yet, but I don't want to get
ripped off either.  It's just unbelievably irritating to have the thing
sit here and not be able to play with it.  I might have to rig up a
windows solution just to try it out, but that really wasn't the idea at
all.

Shrugs,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

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RE: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi if anyone knows where the Mac version of the software is available it
would be great to post here. Likewise I have seen no such download on
their site.
Frank

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Subject: Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

Good afternoon Erik, 
Please let me know if you would be interested in trying out the Mac
version of the software. I've been told by Abisee that the software
should be available for download, however I have not been able to find
it. I've since gotten a copy of the application directly from a
representative.
On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:29 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi Mary, it's the weekend, so I'm assuming nothing's open.  I have to
go to humanware for support since it's there unit.  You can bet your
life I'll be on the phone to my contact first thing Monday morning.  Not
only did I get no mac software, but neither did I get current windows
software. I've got 1.0 and they're on 1.2.
> 
> Now I'll grant you it's been running in my virtual machine, but still,
I've had at least 6 or 8 crashes in the hour I've been using it.  The
previous and next page commands don't seem to be working.  The quality
of the speech is nowhere near what the synthesizers are capable of.
It's fine for scanning regular black and white, but it doesn't do so
well with pamphlets.  The documentation is sketchy, and the tutorial
videos are impossibly boring.  I'm sure I'd like this thing better if I
had the most up-to-date software for my current platform of choice and
documentation that was complete and didn't suck.
> 
> Right now though it's just not impressing $2000 worth out of me.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2010-12-11, at 10:09 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> Did you try calling abisee to see about getting the Mac software? I
thought I had read somewhere that you could get it as a download,
although I sure didn't see any downloads on their site. I figured maybe
they sent folks a link or something when you actually bought the unit. I
know that when you order, you have to pick between windows or Mac
software; they don't ship both which, frankly, given the cost of the
device, seems just a bit ridiculous. Its not like they had to actually
write mac-specific software that takes advantage of voiceover. Good luck
with it.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Turning Off Remote on Mac Book Pro

2010-12-12 Thread M. Taylor
Just a quick note to thank you for this bit of info.  Generally, I keep my mac 
book upstairs and my Apple TV downstairs but I can definitely see how this 
could be a problem.  

Thanks again,

Mark
On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> To disable the infrared receiver on your Mac:
> 
> 1.  go to your System Preferences.
> 2.  choose the Security pane.
> 3.  click the lock and enter your Admin password.
> 4.  Check the Disable Infrared Receiver button.
> 
> That should do it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2010-12-12, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody know how to disable the remote on the Mac?  I have an Apple TV 
>> and, when I use the remote to control it, my Mac Book Pro responds to the 
>> actions and sometimes starts playing stuff too.
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
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Mac time capsule

2010-12-12 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all, we have an older 512mb Time Capsule. Does anyone know if this
can support wireless N or only wirelss G?
Thanks
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Re: papa sangre and how its done

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
Thanks Yuma for making these efforts.  It's really awesome to know that 
developers like you are thinking outside the box in order to provide such an 
experience for more than just the mainstream user.

Good luck!

On 2010-12-12, at 2:06 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> This is mostly speculative but being in the games industry for a while, and 
> having gone through countless reflections on how to make a 3D FPS work for 
> blind people, i think i can understand how the process has been, and there is 
> really good news on this.
> 
> We at our studio use a platform called unity which allows for importing full 
> 3d scenes into the game engine and relying on bounding boxes, physics and 
> clever scripting, we can create a full fledged game with the help of the 
> platform. Another one which is way better in comparison, and having native 
> openGL as well as objective c fremworks is on the way, called UnrealEDIT.
> 
> The similarities between these two platforms is that both make extensive use 
> of 3D audio, itself very easy to implement provided a concise method is 
> adopted. Bounding boxes in 3D space emit sounds and cue thanks to 
> interasction between boxes and spheres which triger specific events.
> 
> So the process here of creating a 3D game in audio for blind people is 
> actually straight-forward, Hi-jacking what is already being implemented in 
> graphic context, adding custom code for accessibility and routing full power 
> to audio instead of graphics to increase audio quality.
> 
> I am really excited to feel how the guys at papa sangre have implemented the 
> navigation scheme as this has been a long standing reflection for me and my 
> team. There are a bucketload of ways to make it happen, some more intuitive 
> than others but being less interactive, and others completely loyal to 
> classic FPS navigation but being a pain on a touchscreen.
> 
> This is good as it will fuel our motivation to continue developement on the 
> game we have thought up, and search for funding for it.
> 
> Best 
> 
> 
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Charlie Doremus
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)

Aloha, 

Charlie

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On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What does A2DP stand for?  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Marlaina
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know they 
> need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will 
> address this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets 
> on the market.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
>> 
>> Kawal. 
>> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
>>> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
>>> 
>>> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
>>> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
>>> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
>>> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all 
>>> the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, 
>>> without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
>>> 
>>> `
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Nick
>>> 
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
What does A2DP stand for?  

Thanks.

Marlaina

On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know they 
need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will address 
this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets on the 
market.
Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
> 
> Kawal. 
> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
>> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
>> 
>> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
>> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
>> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
>> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all 
>> the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, 
>> without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
>> 
>> `
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> MSN: n...@clicktrack.be
>> Skype: Nickvv
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
All I use is the apple bluetooth headset. Not all headsets will have this and 
it's sad as I want to navagate the phone while it is in my purse or talk while 
the phone is in my purse.

S
On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies. The one I have is a Samsung HM1000. Thought it 
> would just work but the iPhone only switches to the headset during a call. Is 
> A2DP the bluetooth profile? I've looked around but not all shops specify the 
> profile. Does anyone know of mono headsets that support this? Doesn't anyone 
> else use a headset to send texts and stuff while on the go?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nick
> On 12 Dec 2010, at 21:54, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know 
>> they need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will 
>> address this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets 
>> on the market.
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
>>> 
>>> Kawal. 
>>> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and 
 just got the iPhone. Great stuff.
 
 One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. 
 The idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume 
 of my phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems 
 to work for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech 
 (well, all the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in 
 other words, without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
 
 `
 Thanks,
 
 Nick
 
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 Skype: Nickvv
 
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Re: Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
Just select the row where the podcast is at interact and hit vo shift ma nd 
choose download podcast episode. You have to do this anyway if you have a 
failed download and you want to grab only those.

S
On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
> I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading 
> specific podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four or 
> five podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of the 
> episodes available at this time.  So, how does one go about selecting 
> specific episodes to download?  Or can it be done?  
> 
> Thank you!
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Selecting specific podcast episodes for download

2010-12-12 Thread Jenny Wood
Hi all!  I hope everyone is well today!
I am wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten me on downloading specific 
podcast episodes in iTunes.  I am currently subscribed to four or five 
podcasts, but I am only interested in listening to a handful of the episodes 
available at this time.  So, how does one go about selecting specific episodes 
to download?  Or can it be done?  

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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread EWOUD

Hi Nick,
i think you are dutch?
Here we have also fora where this subject is pretty hot.
Greets Ewoud

- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Van Vlaenderen" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone headset


Thanks for all the replies. The one I have is a Samsung HM1000. Thought it 
would just work but the iPhone only switches to the headset during a call. 
Is A2DP the bluetooth profile? I've looked around but not all shops specify 
the profile. Does anyone know of mono headsets that support this? Doesn't 
anyone else use a headset to send texts and stuff while on the go?


Thanks,

Nick
On 12 Dec 2010, at 21:54, Scott Howell wrote:

If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know 
they need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they 
will address this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better 
headsets on the market.

Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:


You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.

Kawal.
On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:


Hi all,

I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and 
just got the iPhone. Great stuff.


One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. 
The idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume 
of my phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems 
to work for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech 
(well, all the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in 
other words, without putting a jack in the headphone output)?


`
Thanks,

Nick

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Skype: Nickvv

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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
The Jabra Extreme will work although I don't find it a perfect solution.  There 
may be others.  I wonder if Scott G has any as he's very well in with his 
headsets although I know from various lists he likes plantronics.
On 12 Dec 2010, at 21:12, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies. The one I have is a Samsung HM1000. Thought it 
> would just work but the iPhone only switches to the headset during a call. Is 
> A2DP the bluetooth profile? I've looked around but not all shops specify the 
> profile. Does anyone know of mono headsets that support this? Doesn't anyone 
> else use a headset to send texts and stuff while on the go?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nick
> On 12 Dec 2010, at 21:54, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know 
>> they need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will 
>> address this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets 
>> on the market.
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
>>> 
>>> Kawal. 
>>> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and 
 just got the iPhone. Great stuff.
 
 One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. 
 The idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume 
 of my phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems 
 to work for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech 
 (well, all the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in 
 other words, without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
 
 `
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Yuma Decaux
When we speak of multiple steps for operating a scan ocr compouund, i believe 
automator or applescript are very powerful to make it happen as quick and easy 
as those devices, minus the speed performance of the scans themselves.

If you look at the workflow in laymen, here is what i see:

Add action to folder or service

open image scan

Scan item with preconfigured settings IE 150DPI save file as and location.
This part can actually be braught up before any action is taken for 
customizability via an applescript created window with two fields:
-language
-filename

Make an else if condition on whether the scan is finished, ie when the jpg is 
created.

Once it is, open with abbey fine reader, save as file on preconfigured folder 
with settings found for abbey fine reader in the applescript extensions.

Delete jpg file 


To this, you can add another folder action which appends consecutive files and 
exports the whole rtf to a pdf.


Problem is, no-one here has the time to write it down. I wanted to yesterday 
for a while, but i got so many things going on that i can only try to pass the 
torch to someone else :(

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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Nick Van Vlaenderen
Thanks for all the replies. The one I have is a Samsung HM1000. Thought it 
would just work but the iPhone only switches to the headset during a call. Is 
A2DP the bluetooth profile? I've looked around but not all shops specify the 
profile. Does anyone know of mono headsets that support this? Doesn't anyone 
else use a headset to send texts and stuff while on the go?

Thanks,

Nick
On 12 Dec 2010, at 21:54, Scott Howell wrote:

> If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know they 
> need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will 
> address this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets 
> on the market.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
>> 
>> Kawal. 
>> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
>>> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
>>> 
>>> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
>>> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
>>> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
>>> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all 
>>> the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, 
>>> without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
>>> 
>>> `
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Nick
>>> 
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>>> Skype: Nickvv
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papa sangre and how its done

2010-12-12 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi list,

This is mostly speculative but being in the games industry for a while, and 
having gone through countless reflections on how to make a 3D FPS work for 
blind people, i think i can understand how the process has been, and there is 
really good news on this.

We at our studio use a platform called unity which allows for importing full 3d 
scenes into the game engine and relying on bounding boxes, physics and clever 
scripting, we can create a full fledged game with the help of the platform. 
Another one which is way better in comparison, and having native openGL as well 
as objective c fremworks is on the way, called UnrealEDIT.

The similarities between these two platforms is that both make extensive use of 
3D audio, itself very easy to implement provided a concise method is adopted. 
Bounding boxes in 3D space emit sounds and cue thanks to interasction between 
boxes and spheres which triger specific events.

So the process here of creating a 3D game in audio for blind people is actually 
straight-forward, Hi-jacking what is already being implemented in graphic 
context, adding custom code for accessibility and routing full power to audio 
instead of graphics to increase audio quality.

I am really excited to feel how the guys at papa sangre have implemented the 
navigation scheme as this has been a long standing reflection for me and my 
team. There are a bucketload of ways to make it happen, some more intuitive 
than others but being less interactive, and others completely loyal to classic 
FPS navigation but being a pain on a touchscreen.

This is good as it will fuel our motivation to continue developement on the 
game we have thought up, and search for funding for it.

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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Scott Howell
Hi Erik,

I have an HP CM2320, which is a color laser all-in-one. I installed the HP 
software, so get the scanning and other functions even over the network. THis 
machine costs I believe about $700, but I was abel to get it on sale for about 
$450 or so. I am lucky and pleased this does work. I can appreciate the 
difficulty in trying to use this and that app to accomplish a task. My 
understanding with ABBYY that if the scanner is twain compliant, it should 
work, but some scanners do have some very odd front-end software that makes it 
difficult at best to use on any platform.

Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:36 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi Scott,  Since most scanners are unfortunately not supported directly by 
> fine reader express, you have to either know the make an model of one that 
> does and ask for it when you buy your computer, or you have to get hellishly 
> lucky.  I don't even know the make and model of a scanner that's directly 
> compatible with fine reader.  If you know the make and model of yours and you 
> should be kind enough to post it,  that might very well be the first one 
> posted since FRE was released, despite the question being asked about once 
> every 6 weeks for the past year on this list.
> 
> The poor OCR results I've experienced with FRE are a direct result of needing 
> to use image capture to acquire scans because wouldn't you know it, my 
> scanner is one of the thousands of models that isn'd directly supported in 
> FRE.  I'm glad it's working for you, and I hope they come out with a full 
> product that has vastly improved driver support and will read content 
> automaticly without needing to import it into something like text edit, but 
> for now, it's not ready for the vast majority of us, and it's certainly not 
> something I see most seniors adopting at all, let alone seamlessly.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2010-12-12, at 1:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Erik,
>> 
>> I have to disagree because I have had very good success with ABBYY's Fine 
>> Reader Express. Now I'm fortunate in that my scanner works fine with the 
>> included software, so I can either use that software and feed the results to 
>> ABBYY or use ABBYY to drive the process. I cannot say how it compares to 
>> Openbook etc. since I have not used such software in over 10 years if not 
>> 15. So, you may be right that these other solutions produce better results, 
>> but I consider the quality of results based on the ability for me to read 
>> the output. SInce I have had such success with ABBYY, which costs about $100 
>> I think at least for me I have found a viable solution.
>> Hopefully you will get the software etc. sorted out and be able to provide 
>> some more feedback because this does sound interesting. However, I have to 
>> admit that for me personally, I do not believe I would spend even half that 
>> amount for an OCR solution, but again, remember I'm only referring to what I 
>> would or would not do.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Well now,  Hold your horses, smiles.
>>> 
>>> 2 grand is too much for this baby.  No doubt about it.  There are serious 
>>> drawbacks that need to be addressed.  The manual is horrendous The mac 
>>> software isn't integrated with the mac and tries to be windowsish 
>>> apparently.  The actual windows software has been crashing like crazy here, 
>>> but that's in my virtual machine, where a lot of things don't exactly play 
>>> ball.  It's a testing ground for anything and everything and I'd take my 
>>> crashing issues to a couple of actual windows pc's before I really worried 
>>> about them.  The unfortunate thing about the crashes from my standpoint is 
>>> that I can't show the unit to a client if that's what it's going to do .
>>> 
>>> Now having said all that, we've got a couple of off the shelf solutions for 
>>> the mac for around a hundred bucks.  You know what?  They suck.  I know a 
>>> few really ambitious people on this list have gotten it to fly for them, 
>>> and that's great, but a fare few of us here are high end computer users.  
>>> You've got to realize, The vast majority of blind people are over the age 
>>> of 60.  They have interests and poppies and things they like to do and a 
>>> computer is a great help to them, but they can't be having to worry about 
>>> hardware compatibility, and they don't want 5 or 6 steps and 3 programs to 
>>> do a simple scan and read.  I'm not gonna take them through image capture, 
>>> then fine reader, then text edit, only to find out that what they scanned 
>>> didn't OCR properly.  The first time that happens I'll lose my audience.  
>>> You've got to face the fact that there is nothing for OCR on the mac that 
>>> is simple as openbook or kurzweil, and you've especially got to face up to 
>

Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Scott Howell
If you do want or have purchased a Bose Bluetooth headset, let them know they 
need to add A2DP. I know this is a new product and I am sure they will address 
this. If not, they will be rather behind most of the better headsets on the 
market.
Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.
> 
> Kawal. 
> On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
>> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
>> 
>> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
>> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
>> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
>> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all 
>> the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, 
>> without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
>> 
>> `
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You Need a headset which is A 2 DP streaming.

Kawal. 
On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
> 
> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all the 
> sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, without 
> putting a jack in the headphone output)?
> 
> `
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
In your keyboard preference make sure that you check the FM key (if you have a 
Macbook Pro) so that if you press FM 12 then your volume goes up or FM 11 the 
volume goes down so that when you are in Fusion, in your windows session, your 
function keys work like they do in windows.  Check the box in keyboard 
preferences when in your mac where it says use standard function keys as window 
function keys, When this is selected in the next tab it will say use the FM key 
as special printed keys as selected   I hope this makes sense.  
On 12 Dec 2010, at 20:22, Oriol Gómez wrote:

> Oh thanks for that. I got my keys remapped. But now it isn't accepting
> keypresses from f9 through f12. I would remap those keys but I'm sure
> there must be a way around it..
> 
> On 12/12/10, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Recently I sent a forwarded post re jaws and caps lock key.  Have a look in
>> the Archives.  If you can't find it then let me know.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 12 Dec 2010, at 15:39, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok I got it fixed ti was easier than I thoguht. switch to full screen
>>> mode pressing control command enter and it automatically gets input.
>>> But now I have another question...
>>> How can I use the caps lock key as a modifier key in jaws? I have it
>>> set to laptop mode and everything but if I hit caps lock i to read
>>> line for example jaws just says i
>>> I really need the insert key
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> On 12/12/10, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
 it still shows up as a progress indicator and windows has booted up.
 If I hit the connect apple bluetooth host I hear the standard wnidows
 USB connection sound so I know it's working. I turned off quick nav,
 unlaoded voice over, pressed command g, nothing.
 Do I need anys pecial cursor tracking?
 
 On 12/12/10, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
> This is tricky. The most reliable way I have found is to actually click
> the
> mouse or touch the trackpad. Weather or not you have to do that, you
> definitely want to turn quick nave off in VO. Also, if nothing else
> works,
> unload VO. That is rarely necessary though.
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
>> and I just need some help.
>> I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
>> vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
>> seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
>> sound.
>> Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
>> me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
>> Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
>> indicator which never changes.
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Re: vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Oriol Gómez
Oh thanks for that. I got my keys remapped. But now it isn't accepting
keypresses from f9 through f12. I would remap those keys but I'm sure
there must be a way around it..

On 12/12/10, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Recently I sent a forwarded post re jaws and caps lock key.  Have a look in
> the Archives.  If you can't find it then let me know.
>
> Kawal.
> On 12 Dec 2010, at 15:39, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>
>> Ok I got it fixed ti was easier than I thoguht. switch to full screen
>> mode pressing control command enter and it automatically gets input.
>> But now I have another question...
>> How can I use the caps lock key as a modifier key in jaws? I have it
>> set to laptop mode and everything but if I hit caps lock i to read
>> line for example jaws just says i
>> I really need the insert key
>> thanks
>>
>> On 12/12/10, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
>>> it still shows up as a progress indicator and windows has booted up.
>>> If I hit the connect apple bluetooth host I hear the standard wnidows
>>> USB connection sound so I know it's working. I turned off quick nav,
>>> unlaoded voice over, pressed command g, nothing.
>>> Do I need anys pecial cursor tracking?
>>>
>>> On 12/12/10, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
 This is tricky. The most reliable way I have found is to actually click
 the
 mouse or touch the trackpad. Weather or not you have to do that, you
 definitely want to turn quick nave off in VO. Also, if nothing else
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 unload VO. That is rarely necessary though.

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> Hi all,
> sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
> and I just need some help.
> I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
> vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
> seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
> sound.
> Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
> me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
> Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
> indicator which never changes.
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
You need to find one wiht I believe it is called a2dp profile. Someone correct 
me if I'm wrong on that name. That will do what you want it to do.
On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> If it is a Bose Bluetooth headset you're out of luck. They only work during 
> phone calls. Try googling to find one that will do what you require 
> 
> Aloha, 
> 
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> On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Nick Van Vlaenderen  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
>> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
>> 
>> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
>> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
>> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
>> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all 
>> the sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, 
>> without putting a jack in the headphone output)?
>> 
>> `
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Charlie Doremus
If it is a Bose Bluetooth headset you're out of luck. They only work during 
phone calls. Try googling to find one that will do what you require 

Aloha, 

Charlie

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> 
> I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just 
> got the iPhone. Great stuff.
> 
> One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
> idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
> phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work 
> for actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all the 
> sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, without 
> putting a jack in the headphone output)?
> 
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iPhone headset

2010-12-12 Thread Nick Van Vlaenderen
Hi all,

I'm new on the list. Bought myself a Macbook Pro a few months back and just got 
the iPhone. Great stuff.

One question though: Last week I got a bluetooth headset for my iPhone. The 
idea was to use it in busy places so I don't have to turn the volume of my 
phone up to hear the speech. Unfortunately, the headset only seems to work for 
actual phone calls. Does anyone know how to get the speech (well, all the 
sound) from the iPhone through a bluetooth headset (in other words, without 
putting a jack in the headphone output)?

`
Thanks,

Nick

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Re: Turning Off Remote on Mac Book Pro

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Jeff,

To disable the infrared receiver on your Mac:

1.  go to your System Preferences.
2.  choose the Security pane.
3.  click the lock and enter your Admin password.
4.  Check the Disable Infrared Receiver button.

That should do it.

Later...

On 2010-12-12, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> Does anybody know how to disable the remote on the Mac?  I have an Apple TV 
> and, when I use the remote to control it, my Mac Book Pro responds to the 
> actions and sometimes starts playing stuff too.
> 
> Thx,
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Re: Turning Off Remote on Mac Book Pro

2010-12-12 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Jeff,
Esther answered this one for me recently. What you have to do is go into system 
preferences, then into the security tab and in there, you will turn off the 
infra-red receiver, and then your mbp won't see your apple tv remote. 

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Turning Off Remote on Mac Book Pro

2010-12-12 Thread Jeff Berwick
Does anybody know how to disable the remote on the Mac?  I have an Apple TV 
and, when I use the remote to control it, my Mac Book Pro responds to the 
actions and sometimes starts playing stuff too.

Thx,
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Yuma Decaux
My Epson TX110, standard at 100 dollars does the job perfectly With abbey fine 
reader.


I don't want to insist with a dialogue which may jeopardize people's belief in 
a device which does, irespective of price or squalor of features, very 
interesting as there is a paltry ammount of books available over the net, 
especially those that i look for.

But it also, at least for me, come to personal dignity. I don't want to go and 
beg for charity at this or that organization for a device which can rationally 
and marketably be proposed for half the price if not more with solid 
components. A church or a beneficial organization can instead then concentrate 
on real applications and research to benefit all the blind people at mid term 
instead of benefitting the little portion of blind people who will go to 
lengths to apply for subsidies and other protracted measures aimed at giving 
governements the clout to claim equality of rights. This money is not wanted, 
at from my perspective, as it creates an enteprise which is not up to par with 
what is really possible to do. Take for example the US government which shifted 
it's internal systems from buggy, slow and extremely expensive software from 
contractors to a mainstream platform. This is exactly what i mean though i 
can't criticize a device i have never touched and am just using this as a 
general direction .

As for the makers of JAWS, i find it satirycal obviously and blatantly 
ludicrous and effectively wasting subsidy money to spend a year's worth of 
developement for a ffeature which allows you to Check basball and hockey 
scores. This totally broke the deal for me at a point when i thought i might 
have to get it for my cross platform network setup. Honestly, do they really 
think blind people are just cultured for baseball and hockey? It's such a an 
ironic situation that i almost cried after laughing my butt off listening to 
the freedom scientific guys talk about it's rich features in looking into 
details of the pro baseball season.

On the other hand, this clarifies a much better view of the blind community. 
There are many elderly blind individuals who have had sight before and were 
probably fans of those sports, and this is where the money is going, feature 
requests. And therefore those organizations with money are pouring it in for 
basball and not interactivity or solutions to help younger blind users increase 
their cultures and capacities. Make them batmen and not baseballers.

Sorry i'm getting carried away, i hope things go well with the eyepal and 
perhaps i will still drop by my center to ask if they have one to demo, at 
least i will have a concise opinion that will then be backed by all of the 
above, or i can shut my mouth for all the reasons aforementioned :)

best regards,

Yuma DX®

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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
Now if apple could make scanners and that could work? my scanning solution 
right now is nothing as my printer scanner at least the scanner part does not 
work with the mac at all. so I either have to use my iphone which renders 
terrible results or have some read to me.

Take care all and hope the IPal works right for you.
On Dec 12, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Maybe one of the good things that would come from cuts in funding is the 
> lower-cost solutions. It would be nice if people could afford to purchase 
> their own equipment and software instead of having to secure funding from 
> other sources because the cost is so high. I doubt there is a substantial 
> margin of profit for those who retail these solutions and the money is in 
> training more than the technology itself. So, if the cost of the technology 
> was more inline with the cost of COTS products may help. Of course then there 
> is the issue of how companies make enough money and perhaps branching out 
> into other areas? I don't claim or pretend to have the answers, but the 
> discussion starts somewhere. This is why I have really appreciated what Apple 
> has done. Apple has proven that accessibility can be included in a 
> "mainstream" product.
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:04 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> HI Yuma,
>> 
>> You're not wrong, just impatient.  It's perfectly understandable, but you 
>> have to realize that change is coming and try not to let it get you down.  
>> Unfortunately, my clients are blind now, and their quality of life is at 
>> least as important now as it will be 2 to 5 years from now.  Some of them 
>> may not even have that long.  I have to put things in their hands that make 
>> their lives better, regardless of how I feel about the companies that make 
>> the products or the policies they operate on.  Obviously if there is a way 
>> to do both, I am all for it, and we're seeing more and more opportunities 
>> for common ground all the time.  The other thing is, I need to make my 
>> clients feel confident in the products they are getting.  If I demo this 
>> IPal and tell some one it's overpriced and underrated, but they should buy 
>> it anyway because it does the job, they will feel as if they are wasting 
>> their time and money.  They'll feel cheated before they even buy the thing 
>> and they'll cheat themselves of the opportunity for independence.  I'll 
>> cheat them by making them feel bad bout getting an expensive piece of kit 
>> because it's overpriced and underrated and I don't want them putting money 
>> in the pockets of some greedy blind exploiting bastard.  Is that more right 
>> than a company charging gouging prices for a product just because it's built 
>> specifically to serve the blind, even though it's 100% constructed from 
>> technologies that are available on the commercial market for a tenth of the 
>> price?
>> 
>> The other thing you don't seem to have considered is that unlike the 
>> commercial market, the market for access technology is driven not buy users, 
>> but buy funders.  In other words, I might buy an eyepal in February, but the 
>> money won't come out of my pocket.  My government will pay for it, even 
>> though I may have to get creative in order to make that happen.  Service 
>> clubs, church groups, insurance companies, and others of varying degrees of 
>> wealth and power put these things in our hands and hope that we won't 
>> question too closely.  These people don't actually use the technologies, but 
>> they have ways of syphoning off money earmarked for supporting blind people 
>> as part of paying for all this high priced kit.  There's a reason why the 
>> price of jaws and window-eyes hasn't changed in 15 or 20 years.  That reason 
>> is because governments, corporations, and other funders are willing to 
>> continue paying.  At some point there will be an upheaval, at least in the 
>> province of ontario there will be.  Tech funding was just recently cut.  
>> It's going to be cut again in two years.  There's even a reputable industry 
>> professional here  quietly asking everyone in the blind community to take 
>> their jaws funding whether they want it or not, and not to talk about apple 
>> in professional circles.  His reasoning is that if it becomes obvious to the 
>> dullerds in the agency that any one can go out and by a mac or vinux machine 
>> off the shelf and use it, they will cancel the entire funding program.  That 
>> means, no braille displays.  No reading machines.  No portable notetakers.  
>> ...nothing.  All because some one realized that computers can be accessible 
>> off the shelf.  And the thing is, he's not wrong.  If that happens, we'll 
>> all be out of luck, and a lot of very powerful people behind the scenes will 
>> be as well.  Boo hoo.
>> 
>> Personally, I'll be OK with it when low end windows screen readers are well 
>> and truly on par with the high end ones, and when the electropolimer br

Re: vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Recently I sent a forwarded post re jaws and caps lock key.  Have a look in the 
Archives.  If you can't find it then let me know.

Kawal.
On 12 Dec 2010, at 15:39, Oriol Gómez wrote:

> Ok I got it fixed ti was easier than I thoguht. switch to full screen
> mode pressing control command enter and it automatically gets input.
> But now I have another question...
> How can I use the caps lock key as a modifier key in jaws? I have it
> set to laptop mode and everything but if I hit caps lock i to read
> line for example jaws just says i
> I really need the insert key
> thanks
> 
> On 12/12/10, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
>> it still shows up as a progress indicator and windows has booted up.
>> If I hit the connect apple bluetooth host I hear the standard wnidows
>> USB connection sound so I know it's working. I turned off quick nav,
>> unlaoded voice over, pressed command g, nothing.
>> Do I need anys pecial cursor tracking?
>> 
>> On 12/12/10, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
>>> This is tricky. The most reliable way I have found is to actually click
>>> the
>>> mouse or touch the trackpad. Weather or not you have to do that, you
>>> definitely want to turn quick nave off in VO. Also, if nothing else
>>> works,
>>> unload VO. That is rarely necessary though.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
 and I just need some help.
 I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
 vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
 seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
 sound.
 Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
 me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
 Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
 indicator which never changes.
 
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keeping old IDevice backups

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
I was restoring my phone a few days ago and noticed all the back ups from the 
prior month had been deleted. I did some testing and this is what I found.

•the back ups will not be retained if you perform a manual back up and

•in the prefs  under devices the back ups are erased   as well.

Is there a way to retain let's say last month's back ups? this was annoying as 
I could not restore my phone to a few days ago when I broke something.

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Re: AppleTV and Netflix question

2010-12-12 Thread Kevin Mattingly
The choice you want is $7.99 a month.

Kev
On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> All:
> I'm looking at getting an Apple TV and Netflix; however the pricing plans are 
> confusing. What is the cheapist plan I can purchase to use on my Apple TV, 
> Mac, PC, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc? I don't want to receive physical DVDS, just 
> want to Stream. I'm a bit confused.
> 
> 
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Scott,  Since most scanners are unfortunately not supported directly by fine 
reader express, you have to either know the make an model of one that does and 
ask for it when you buy your computer, or you have to get hellishly lucky.  I 
don't even know the make and model of a scanner that's directly compatible with 
fine reader.  If you know the make and model of yours and you should be kind 
enough to post it,  that might very well be the first one posted since FRE was 
released, despite the question being asked about once every 6 weeks for the 
past year on this list.

The poor OCR results I've experienced with FRE are a direct result of needing 
to use image capture to acquire scans because wouldn't you know it, my scanner 
is one of the thousands of models that isn'd directly supported in FRE.  I'm 
glad it's working for you, and I hope they come out with a full product that 
has vastly improved driver support and will read content automaticly without 
needing to import it into something like text edit, but for now, it's not ready 
for the vast majority of us, and it's certainly not something I see most 
seniors adopting at all, let alone seamlessly.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-12-12, at 1:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Erik,
> 
> I have to disagree because I have had very good success with ABBYY's Fine 
> Reader Express. Now I'm fortunate in that my scanner works fine with the 
> included software, so I can either use that software and feed the results to 
> ABBYY or use ABBYY to drive the process. I cannot say how it compares to 
> Openbook etc. since I have not used such software in over 10 years if not 15. 
> So, you may be right that these other solutions produce better results, but I 
> consider the quality of results based on the ability for me to read the 
> output. SInce I have had such success with ABBYY, which costs about $100 I 
> think at least for me I have found a viable solution.
> Hopefully you will get the software etc. sorted out and be able to provide 
> some more feedback because this does sound interesting. However, I have to 
> admit that for me personally, I do not believe I would spend even half that 
> amount for an OCR solution, but again, remember I'm only referring to what I 
> would or would not do.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Well now,  Hold your horses, smiles.
>> 
>> 2 grand is too much for this baby.  No doubt about it.  There are serious 
>> drawbacks that need to be addressed.  The manual is horrendous The mac 
>> software isn't integrated with the mac and tries to be windowsish 
>> apparently.  The actual windows software has been crashing like crazy here, 
>> but that's in my virtual machine, where a lot of things don't exactly play 
>> ball.  It's a testing ground for anything and everything and I'd take my 
>> crashing issues to a couple of actual windows pc's before I really worried 
>> about them.  The unfortunate thing about the crashes from my standpoint is 
>> that I can't show the unit to a client if that's what it's going to do .
>> 
>> Now having said all that, we've got a couple of off the shelf solutions for 
>> the mac for around a hundred bucks.  You know what?  They suck.  I know a 
>> few really ambitious people on this list have gotten it to fly for them, and 
>> that's great, but a fare few of us here are high end computer users.  You've 
>> got to realize, The vast majority of blind people are over the age of 60.  
>> They have interests and poppies and things they like to do and a computer is 
>> a great help to them, but they can't be having to worry about hardware 
>> compatibility, and they don't want 5 or 6 steps and 3 programs to do a 
>> simple scan and read.  I'm not gonna take them through image capture, then 
>> fine reader, then text edit, only to find out that what they scanned didn't 
>> OCR properly.  The first time that happens I'll lose my audience.  You've 
>> got to face the fact that there is nothing for OCR on the mac that is simple 
>> as openbook or kurzweil, and you've especially got to face up to the fact 
>> that there's no one program on the mac that has as many features in one 
>> place as either of those two packages.
>> 
>> For two grand, EyePal doesn't support enough languages.  It's not integrated 
>> with all the services like RFB&D and bookshare.  It doesn't have a spell 
>> check, dictionary or thesaurus.  it doesn't read currency.  It doesn't have 
>> automatic calibration features that will optimize the camera settings for 
>> the particular text you are reading, lighting conditions and so on.
>> 
>> What it does do, is handle large books really and I mean really well.  It 
>> will allow my elderly mac-wealding clients to walk up, put down a document, 
>> hit a button and find out what's on the paper just like my windows clients 

Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Scott Howell
Maybe one of the good things that would come from cuts in funding is the 
lower-cost solutions. It would be nice if people could afford to purchase their 
own equipment and software instead of having to secure funding from other 
sources because the cost is so high. I doubt there is a substantial margin of 
profit for those who retail these solutions and the money is in training more 
than the technology itself. So, if the cost of the technology was more inline 
with the cost of COTS products may help. Of course then there is the issue of 
how companies make enough money and perhaps branching out into other areas? I 
don't claim or pretend to have the answers, but the discussion starts 
somewhere. This is why I have really appreciated what Apple has done. Apple has 
proven that accessibility can be included in a "mainstream" product.
Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:04 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> HI Yuma,
> 
> You're not wrong, just impatient.  It's perfectly understandable, but you 
> have to realize that change is coming and try not to let it get you down.  
> Unfortunately, my clients are blind now, and their quality of life is at 
> least as important now as it will be 2 to 5 years from now.  Some of them may 
> not even have that long.  I have to put things in their hands that make their 
> lives better, regardless of how I feel about the companies that make the 
> products or the policies they operate on.  Obviously if there is a way to do 
> both, I am all for it, and we're seeing more and more opportunities for 
> common ground all the time.  The other thing is, I need to make my clients 
> feel confident in the products they are getting.  If I demo this IPal and 
> tell some one it's overpriced and underrated, but they should buy it anyway 
> because it does the job, they will feel as if they are wasting their time and 
> money.  They'll feel cheated before they even buy the thing and they'll cheat 
> themselves of the opportunity for independence.  I'll cheat them by making 
> them feel bad bout getting an expensive piece of kit because it's overpriced 
> and underrated and I don't want them putting money in the pockets of some 
> greedy blind exploiting bastard.  Is that more right than a company charging 
> gouging prices for a product just because it's built specifically to serve 
> the blind, even though it's 100% constructed from technologies that are 
> available on the commercial market for a tenth of the price?
> 
> The other thing you don't seem to have considered is that unlike the 
> commercial market, the market for access technology is driven not buy users, 
> but buy funders.  In other words, I might buy an eyepal in February, but the 
> money won't come out of my pocket.  My government will pay for it, even 
> though I may have to get creative in order to make that happen.  Service 
> clubs, church groups, insurance companies, and others of varying degrees of 
> wealth and power put these things in our hands and hope that we won't 
> question too closely.  These people don't actually use the technologies, but 
> they have ways of syphoning off money earmarked for supporting blind people 
> as part of paying for all this high priced kit.  There's a reason why the 
> price of jaws and window-eyes hasn't changed in 15 or 20 years.  That reason 
> is because governments, corporations, and other funders are willing to 
> continue paying.  At some point there will be an upheaval, at least in the 
> province of ontario there will be.  Tech funding was just recently cut.  It's 
> going to be cut again in two years.  There's even a reputable industry 
> professional here  quietly asking everyone in the blind community to take 
> their jaws funding whether they want it or not, and not to talk about apple 
> in professional circles.  His reasoning is that if it becomes obvious to the 
> dullerds in the agency that any one can go out and by a mac or vinux machine 
> off the shelf and use it, they will cancel the entire funding program.  That 
> means, no braille displays.  No reading machines.  No portable notetakers.  
> ...nothing.  All because some one realized that computers can be accessible 
> off the shelf.  And the thing is, he's not wrong.  If that happens, we'll all 
> be out of luck, and a lot of very powerful people behind the scenes will be 
> as well.  Boo hoo.
> 
> Personally, I'll be OK with it when low end windows screen readers are well 
> and truly on par with the high end ones, and when the electropolimer braille 
> display becomes a reality, but for now we've got to work in the system the 
> way it is and hope it lasts long enough to get us through the transition to 
> lower priced and equally functional technology.  So even though the whole 
> situation is crap, there's no use getting hot an bothered.  It doesn't help 
> anyone.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.er

Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Scott Howell
Erik,

I have to disagree because I have had very good success with ABBYY's Fine 
Reader Express. Now I'm fortunate in that my scanner works fine with the 
included software, so I can either use that software and feed the results to 
ABBYY or use ABBYY to drive the process. I cannot say how it compares to 
Openbook etc. since I have not used such software in over 10 years if not 15. 
So, you may be right that these other solutions produce better results, but I 
consider the quality of results based on the ability for me to read the output. 
SInce I have had such success with ABBYY, which costs about $100 I think at 
least for me I have found a viable solution.
Hopefully you will get the software etc. sorted out and be able to provide some 
more feedback because this does sound interesting. However, I have to admit 
that for me personally, I do not believe I would spend even half that amount 
for an OCR solution, but again, remember I'm only referring to what I would or 
would not do.

Scott





On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well now,  Hold your horses, smiles.
> 
> 2 grand is too much for this baby.  No doubt about it.  There are serious 
> drawbacks that need to be addressed.  The manual is horrendous The mac 
> software isn't integrated with the mac and tries to be windowsish apparently. 
>  The actual windows software has been crashing like crazy here, but that's in 
> my virtual machine, where a lot of things don't exactly play ball.  It's a 
> testing ground for anything and everything and I'd take my crashing issues to 
> a couple of actual windows pc's before I really worried about them.  The 
> unfortunate thing about the crashes from my standpoint is that I can't show 
> the unit to a client if that's what it's going to do .
> 
> Now having said all that, we've got a couple of off the shelf solutions for 
> the mac for around a hundred bucks.  You know what?  They suck.  I know a few 
> really ambitious people on this list have gotten it to fly for them, and 
> that's great, but a fare few of us here are high end computer users.  You've 
> got to realize, The vast majority of blind people are over the age of 60.  
> They have interests and poppies and things they like to do and a computer is 
> a great help to them, but they can't be having to worry about hardware 
> compatibility, and they don't want 5 or 6 steps and 3 programs to do a simple 
> scan and read.  I'm not gonna take them through image capture, then fine 
> reader, then text edit, only to find out that what they scanned didn't OCR 
> properly.  The first time that happens I'll lose my audience.  You've got to 
> face the fact that there is nothing for OCR on the mac that is simple as 
> openbook or kurzweil, and you've especially got to face up to the fact that 
> there's no one program on the mac that has as many features in one place as 
> either of those two packages.
> 
> For two grand, EyePal doesn't support enough languages.  It's not integrated 
> with all the services like RFB&D and bookshare.  It doesn't have a spell 
> check, dictionary or thesaurus.  it doesn't read currency.  It doesn't have 
> automatic calibration features that will optimize the camera settings for the 
> particular text you are reading, lighting conditions and so on.
> 
> What it does do, is handle large books really and I mean really well.  It 
> will allow my elderly mac-wealding clients to walk up, put down a document, 
> hit a button and find out what's on the paper just like my windows clients 
> can.  Is that worth 2 grand?  I'm not convinced, but I'm not ready to writhe 
> it off until I get to see current software working on a real platform of my 
> choosing.  Meanwhile,  I suggest you pour yourself another cup of coffee and 
> mellow out.  I know exactly how you feel.  I felt the same way when the 
> original knfb reader came out.  Now that product is a stone-age brick and I 
> could probably have one for $500 if I asked around.  I'll tell you what 
> though.  I got those so and so's right where it hurt.  You know what I did 
> with there $3600 piece of astonishingly portable, nice-looking and effective 
> technology?  Oh ho ho you'll never believe this...  I left it in the store.  
> *rubs hands together with glee*  That showed 'em.  Now I've been working in 
> AT for almost 3 years, all be it on the very bottom most rung of the ladder, 
> and It's not like it was 10 years ago.  They're still charging stupid amounts 
> of money for high end screen readers and braille displays, mostly because 
> it's tradition.  They can charge it and people are paying, so you can't very 
> well blame them.  Newer technologies though are subject to the same laws of 
> depreciation as every other damn thing.  EyePal pricing just dropped in 
> December.  I'm hoping that applies to canadian sales as well.  Next year it 
> will go down again.  The year after that, abisee will introduce something 
> else and you'll be able to have one of th

Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Sarah Alawami
the ipall is a portable scanning and reading system that is about 18 inches 
long. It hooks to a comptuer via usb and you can even have it do auto scanning 
where you turn the page and it will scann it. Tha'ts how  I managed to scann a 
300 page book in about a half hour and have pretty good results.
Seems though the price went oup though.

Good luck wirking wiht yoru mac.
On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Christina wrote:

> What in the world does the iPal do for $2000.  I've never heard of it.
> 
> Thanks and best of luck getting it to work for you,
> Christina
> 
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AppleTV and Netflix question

2010-12-12 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
All:
I'm looking at getting an Apple TV and Netflix; however the pricing plans are 
confusing. What is the cheapist plan I can purchase to use on my Apple TV, Mac, 
PC, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc? I don't want to receive physical DVDS, just want 
to Stream. I'm a bit confused.


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Re: does anyone else use t-mobile and have problems with their site?

2010-12-12 Thread Brett Campbell
Hi,

Unfortunately, it's been my experience anyway, the T-mobile site not 
only doesn't work optimally with VoiceOver, it doesn't work optimally with Mac. 
 Sighted members of my household sometimes have to clear the dust from the 
Windows machine to perform certain tasks within our account on their site.



Brett C.

On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:50 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> ok,
> I have been pestering t-mobile to correct some issues on their website, not 
> notably:
> 1. extensive use of flash video to display amount information and payment 
> methods
> 2. use of a visual only captcha to even log in to the website.
> 
> I was wondering if any of you use t-mobile as a cellular provider and have 
> this problem.
> also, I am not sure whats going on, but I tried to log in there tonight after 
> a webkit update and the site crashes the browser. I have also tried on 
> regular safari with the same result.I am seriously tempted to make a screen 
> capture video of the problem and post it via youtube (the accessibility issue 
> that is). its been 3 months of bothering these guys with no results. I wonder 
> what result a youtube video will have?
> 
> any other suggestions?
> 
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread erik burggraaf
HI Yuma,

You're not wrong, just impatient.  It's perfectly understandable, but you have 
to realize that change is coming and try not to let it get you down.  
Unfortunately, my clients are blind now, and their quality of life is at least 
as important now as it will be 2 to 5 years from now.  Some of them may not 
even have that long.  I have to put things in their hands that make their lives 
better, regardless of how I feel about the companies that make the products or 
the policies they operate on.  Obviously if there is a way to do both, I am all 
for it, and we're seeing more and more opportunities for common ground all the 
time.  The other thing is, I need to make my clients feel confident in the 
products they are getting.  If I demo this IPal and tell some one it's 
overpriced and underrated, but they should buy it anyway because it does the 
job, they will feel as if they are wasting their time and money.  They'll feel 
cheated before they even buy the thing and they'll cheat themselves of the 
opportunity for independence.  I'll cheat them by making them feel bad bout 
getting an expensive piece of kit because it's overpriced and underrated and I 
don't want them putting money in the pockets of some greedy blind exploiting 
bastard.  Is that more right than a company charging gouging prices for a 
product just because it's built specifically to serve the blind, even though 
it's 100% constructed from technologies that are available on the commercial 
market for a tenth of the price?

The other thing you don't seem to have considered is that unlike the commercial 
market, the market for access technology is driven not buy users, but buy 
funders.  In other words, I might buy an eyepal in February, but the money 
won't come out of my pocket.  My government will pay for it, even though I may 
have to get creative in order to make that happen.  Service clubs, church 
groups, insurance companies, and others of varying degrees of wealth and power 
put these things in our hands and hope that we won't question too closely.  
These people don't actually use the technologies, but they have ways of 
syphoning off money earmarked for supporting blind people as part of paying for 
all this high priced kit.  There's a reason why the price of jaws and 
window-eyes hasn't changed in 15 or 20 years.  That reason is because 
governments, corporations, and other funders are willing to continue paying.  
At some point there will be an upheaval, at least in the province of ontario 
there will be.  Tech funding was just recently cut.  It's going to be cut again 
in two years.  There's even a reputable industry professional here  quietly 
asking everyone in the blind community to take their jaws funding whether they 
want it or not, and not to talk about apple in professional circles.  His 
reasoning is that if it becomes obvious to the dullerds in the agency that any 
one can go out and by a mac or vinux machine off the shelf and use it, they 
will cancel the entire funding program.  That means, no braille displays.  No 
reading machines.  No portable notetakers.  ...nothing.  All because some one 
realized that computers can be accessible off the shelf.  And the thing is, 
he's not wrong.  If that happens, we'll all be out of luck, and a lot of very 
powerful people behind the scenes will be as well.  Boo hoo.

Personally, I'll be OK with it when low end windows screen readers are well and 
truly on par with the high end ones, and when the electropolimer braille 
display becomes a reality, but for now we've got to work in the system the way 
it is and hope it lasts long enough to get us through the transition to lower 
priced and equally functional technology.  So even though the whole situation 
is crap, there's no use getting hot an bothered.  It doesn't help anyone.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2010-12-12, at 11:03 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Thanks Eric for the explanation.
> 
> 
> Assistive tech is a rather new subject to me, and my perspective is still 
> anchored in the mind of a sighted person who would rather spend 2k on his 
> kid's education, a new laptop or a great hoiday than 2k on a device that's 
> grossly overpriced and would last only a year before it looses value faster 
> than i can regenrate funds for as there are many other things in life to 
> consider.
> I totally understand your position, that you actually test these devices, 
> demo them to elderly people who probably have had sight most of their lives, 
> and therefore don't much as mind spending 2k as the majority could afford it 
> or wouldn't have the energy to go to Africa for example with hiking boots and 
> a photography setup for blind individuals as an alternative source of 
> entertainment.
> 
> Even after having crossed the line between sighted and blind, moreso now that 
> i understand all the difficulties i have

Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Justin Ekis
Well now. What on earth? I just went back there and you are absolutely correct. 
How utterly weird. It was a free download on the day of release, so I just 
confirmed the address of the page and sent it, assuming that clicking the mac 
software link would do what it did less than two weeks ago. This is 
incomprehensible. Sorry for the misinformation.


On Dec 12, 2010, at 4:13 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hi, When I go to this page and click the download link for EyePal for the mac, 
it takes me to a paypal order page with an invoice for $150.  It doesn't give 
me the download.  Hum...

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-12-11, at 11:12 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

> Hi Erik,
> 
> I'm not sure where you might have read that you have to pay for the mac 
> software, since it is available for download directly from the abisee support 
> page. Here is the link
> 
> http://www.abisee.com/support/software.html
> 
> I'm not sure why it's such a huge download though. It's about a gigabyte. 
> Anyway, I downloaded it when it first came out but haven't had the 
> opportunity to connect my eyepal and try it out yet.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
> Well boys and girls...  I was all gung hoe to spend the morning with my demo 
> eyepal, testing it on various printed material and working up a podcast on 
> the thing.  Unfortunately when I got it out the box I discovered that mac 
> software was not included.  Further to my irritation, there's no demo 
> download of the thing.  You have to buy it for $150.  I dano guys this could 
> be a show stopper for me.  I don't really want to give up on the eyepal just 
> yet, but I don't want to get ripped off either.  It's just unbelievably 
> irritating to have the thing sit here and not be able to play with it.  I 
> might have to rig up a windows solution just to try it out, but that really 
> wasn't the idea at all.
> 
> Shrugs,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Yuma Decaux
Thanks Eric for the explanation.


Assistive tech is a rather new subject to me, and my perspective is still 
anchored in the mind of a sighted person who would rather spend 2k on his kid's 
education, a new laptop or a great hoiday than 2k on a device that's grossly 
overpriced and would last only a year before it looses value faster than i can 
regenrate funds for as there are many other things in life to consider.
I totally understand your position, that you actually test these devices, demo 
them to elderly people who probably have had sight most of their lives, and 
therefore don't much as mind spending 2k as the majority could afford it or 
wouldn't have the energy to go to Africa for example with hiking boots and a 
photography setup for blind individuals as an alternative source of 
entertainment.

Even after having crossed the line between sighted and blind, moreso now that i 
understand all the difficulties i have doing a lot of things i used to take for 
granted, the fact that these greedy corporations barricade themselves behind 
production costs to justify their prices. I just have a very hard time 
apprehending entities, individuals corporations, governments. Whatever you 
want, to make a profit on those who are fighting everyday for a better chance 
to just read books or quickly checking snail mail for crying out loud.

There has to be a change in this trend, and it has to come from the convergence 
of intellectual property, associative enterprising and the exposure of current 
corporate philosophies where it hurts.

There was a recent Lecture over here in AUckland Uni about the favorable switch 
the economic world has to experience before it can actually get better, and 
that is for corporations to stop artificial market injections and follow a more 
benevolent style of making business. The modern world is generating much more 
by working together rather than taking things behind closed doors, the threat 
of patent infringement and come-up with a device that's half-baked, has a life 
expectancy close to a percent of a human or canine lifetime, with eye gouging 
prices, and it also probably looks like a tentacle from hell Or a monolithic 
slab from stanley kubrick's imagination.

Taking this into context with what used to be, and looking at what it has done 
to people now you can't help but be cynical. Like you mention it, it's not what 
it used to be. Is that because those corporations who make assistive devices 
are all trying to squeeze the most out of every cent they spend? And more? And 
what is their R&D capacity? What's the percentage they funnel back into 
research, and how many products do they have to support their production? 
Those are the questions i ask myself when i buy a product that's pricy, like a 
bang and olufsen speaker or a mini austen instead of a second hand peugeot. 
There are incentives to these products, they are extremely durable, known, and 
best of all, don't loose value. Imagine having a Sony Ericsson Honda 
collaboration for a snap scanner text reader or an apple bang and olufsen 
retinal implant. This is a utopic jerk of my current existential state that 
will gratify an early morning stint to the coffee machine, soon to evaporate 
like the steam off the mug, but reflection on how to reach this type of world 
is worth a thousand expresso shots.

Oh, and i'm definetely not buying any assistive crap anytime soon Unless they 
come clean with their stuff, and that's stuff that works out of the box.


  

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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Erick:
You have so hit the proverbial nail on the head here.  I've been trying very 
hard to make vuescan work, to make anything work in terms of scanning.  I have 
had absolutely no luck, even with a version that works for some, even with an 
Apple trainer very generously spending time with me on things.  I finally took 
100 pieces of mail and booted up my old Dell pc with it's even older version of 
openbook.  I found a lot of missing stuff, and found out which bills I didn't 
pay while I was trying like heck to scan with my mac, and now have a credit 
ding.  Strictly my fault.  But, I was being obsessive/determined to get the mbp 
to scan for me.
so, you've just laid it out in far nicer terms than I've been feeling just now.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is feeling like the MBP is a lot of things, 
but not a very good scanning solution for the average user.
Thanks for spelling this out so succinctly.  I was beginning to really beat 
myself up for not being able to make this work.

Take care

Carolyn Haas
On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well now,  Hold your horses, smiles.
> 
> 2 grand is too much for this baby.  No doubt about it.  There are serious 
> drawbacks that need to be addressed.  The manual is horrendous The mac 
> software isn't integrated with the mac and tries to be windowsish apparently. 
>  The actual windows software has been crashing like crazy here, but that's in 
> my virtual machine, where a lot of things don't exactly play ball.  It's a 
> testing ground for anything and everything and I'd take my crashing issues to 
> a couple of actual windows pc's before I really worried about them.  The 
> unfortunate thing about the crashes from my standpoint is that I can't show 
> the unit to a client if that's what it's going to do .
> 
> Now having said all that, we've got a couple of off the shelf solutions for 
> the mac for around a hundred bucks.  You know what?  They suck.  I know a few 
> really ambitious people on this list have gotten it to fly for them, and 
> that's great, but a fare few of us here are high end computer users.  You've 
> got to realize, The vast majority of blind people are over the age of 60.  
> They have interests and poppies and things they like to do and a computer is 
> a great help to them, but they can't be having to worry about hardware 
> compatibility, and they don't want 5 or 6 steps and 3 programs to do a simple 
> scan and read.  I'm not gonna take them through image capture, then fine 
> reader, then text edit, only to find out that what they scanned didn't OCR 
> properly.  The first time that happens I'll lose my audience.  You've got to 
> face the fact that there is nothing for OCR on the mac that is simple as 
> openbook or kurzweil, and you've especially got to face up to the fact that 
> there's no one program on the mac that has as many features in one place as 
> either of those two packages.
> 
> For two grand, EyePal doesn't support enough languages.  It's not integrated 
> with all the services like RFB&D and bookshare.  It doesn't have a spell 
> check, dictionary or thesaurus.  it doesn't read currency.  It doesn't have 
> automatic calibration features that will optimize the camera settings for the 
> particular text you are reading, lighting conditions and so on.
> 
> What it does do, is handle large books really and I mean really well.  It 
> will allow my elderly mac-wealding clients to walk up, put down a document, 
> hit a button and find out what's on the paper just like my windows clients 
> can.  Is that worth 2 grand?  I'm not convinced, but I'm not ready to writhe 
> it off until I get to see current software working on a real platform of my 
> choosing.  Meanwhile,  I suggest you pour yourself another cup of coffee and 
> mellow out.  I know exactly how you feel.  I felt the same way when the 
> original knfb reader came out.  Now that product is a stone-age brick and I 
> could probably have one for $500 if I asked around.  I'll tell you what 
> though.  I got those so and so's right where it hurt.  You know what I did 
> with there $3600 piece of astonishingly portable, nice-looking and effective 
> technology?  Oh ho ho you'll never believe this...  I left it in the store.  
> *rubs hands together with glee*  That showed 'em.  Now I've been working in 
> AT for almost 3 years, all be it on the very bottom most rung of the ladder, 
> and It's not like it was 10 years ago.  They're still charging stupid amounts 
> of money for high end screen readers and braille displays, mostly because 
> it's tradition.  They can charge it and people are paying, so you can't very 
> well blame them.  Newer technologies though are subject to the same laws of 
> depreciation as every other damn thing.  EyePal pricing just dropped in 
> December.  I'm hoping that applies to canadian sales as well.  Next year it 
> will go down again.  The year after that, abisee will introduce something 
> else and you'll be abl

Re: vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Oriol Gómez
Ok I got it fixed ti was easier than I thoguht. switch to full screen
mode pressing control command enter and it automatically gets input.
But now I have another question...
How can I use the caps lock key as a modifier key in jaws? I have it
set to laptop mode and everything but if I hit caps lock i to read
line for example jaws just says i
I really need the insert key
thanks

On 12/12/10, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> it still shows up as a progress indicator and windows has booted up.
> If I hit the connect apple bluetooth host I hear the standard wnidows
> USB connection sound so I know it's working. I turned off quick nav,
> unlaoded voice over, pressed command g, nothing.
> Do I need anys pecial cursor tracking?
>
> On 12/12/10, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
>> This is tricky. The most reliable way I have found is to actually click
>> the
>> mouse or touch the trackpad. Weather or not you have to do that, you
>> definitely want to turn quick nave off in VO. Also, if nothing else
>> works,
>> unload VO. That is rarely necessary though.
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
>>> and I just need some help.
>>> I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
>>> vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
>>> seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
>>> sound.
>>> Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
>>> me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
>>> Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
>>> indicator which never changes.
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Re: vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Oriol Gómez
it still shows up as a progress indicator and windows has booted up.
If I hit the connect apple bluetooth host I hear the standard wnidows
USB connection sound so I know it's working. I turned off quick nav,
unlaoded voice over, pressed command g, nothing.
Do I need anys pecial cursor tracking?

On 12/12/10, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
> This is tricky. The most reliable way I have found is to actually click the
> mouse or touch the trackpad. Weather or not you have to do that, you
> definitely want to turn quick nave off in VO. Also, if nothing else works,
> unload VO. That is rarely necessary though.
>
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
>> and I just need some help.
>> I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
>> vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
>> seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
>> sound.
>> Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
>> me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
>> Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
>> indicator which never changes.
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread erik burggraaf
Well now,  Hold your horses, smiles.

2 grand is too much for this baby.  No doubt about it.  There are serious 
drawbacks that need to be addressed.  The manual is horrendous The mac software 
isn't integrated with the mac and tries to be windowsish apparently.  The 
actual windows software has been crashing like crazy here, but that's in my 
virtual machine, where a lot of things don't exactly play ball.  It's a testing 
ground for anything and everything and I'd take my crashing issues to a couple 
of actual windows pc's before I really worried about them.  The unfortunate 
thing about the crashes from my standpoint is that I can't show the unit to a 
client if that's what it's going to do .

Now having said all that, we've got a couple of off the shelf solutions for the 
mac for around a hundred bucks.  You know what?  They suck.  I know a few 
really ambitious people on this list have gotten it to fly for them, and that's 
great, but a fare few of us here are high end computer users.  You've got to 
realize, The vast majority of blind people are over the age of 60.  They have 
interests and poppies and things they like to do and a computer is a great help 
to them, but they can't be having to worry about hardware compatibility, and 
they don't want 5 or 6 steps and 3 programs to do a simple scan and read.  I'm 
not gonna take them through image capture, then fine reader, then text edit, 
only to find out that what they scanned didn't OCR properly.  The first time 
that happens I'll lose my audience.  You've got to face the fact that there is 
nothing for OCR on the mac that is simple as openbook or kurzweil, and you've 
especially got to face up to the fact that there's no one program on the mac 
that has as many features in one place as either of those two packages.

For two grand, EyePal doesn't support enough languages.  It's not integrated 
with all the services like RFB&D and bookshare.  It doesn't have a spell check, 
dictionary or thesaurus.  it doesn't read currency.  It doesn't have automatic 
calibration features that will optimize the camera settings for the particular 
text you are reading, lighting conditions and so on.

What it does do, is handle large books really and I mean really well.  It will 
allow my elderly mac-wealding clients to walk up, put down a document, hit a 
button and find out what's on the paper just like my windows clients can.  Is 
that worth 2 grand?  I'm not convinced, but I'm not ready to writhe it off 
until I get to see current software working on a real platform of my choosing.  
Meanwhile,  I suggest you pour yourself another cup of coffee and mellow out.  
I know exactly how you feel.  I felt the same way when the original knfb reader 
came out.  Now that product is a stone-age brick and I could probably have one 
for $500 if I asked around.  I'll tell you what though.  I got those so and 
so's right where it hurt.  You know what I did with there $3600 piece of 
astonishingly portable, nice-looking and effective technology?  Oh ho ho you'll 
never believe this...  I left it in the store.  *rubs hands together with glee* 
 That showed 'em.  Now I've been working in AT for almost 3 years, all be it on 
the very bottom most rung of the ladder, and It's not like it was 10 years ago. 
 They're still charging stupid amounts of money for high end screen readers and 
braille displays, mostly because it's tradition.  They can charge it and people 
are paying, so you can't very well blame them.  Newer technologies though are 
subject to the same laws of depreciation as every other damn thing.  EyePal 
pricing just dropped in December.  I'm hoping that applies to canadian sales as 
well.  Next year it will go down again.  The year after that, abisee will 
introduce something else and you'll be able to have one of these for a fraction 
of the cost.  The market is going a certain way that will eventually freeze out 
gouging prices for access technology, but change is slow and you just have to 
pace yourself and not let it rip you up so much.

Take 'er easy.

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2010-12-11, at 7:19 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to jump in on this, but 2000 dollars for a demo? I mean, crashing 
> and all, missing manuals or software and a total lack of anything integrated? 
> How come it's that ridiculously priced? It's actually the price of two 
> macbook airs, and i thought apple was going premium with their stuff. I 
> understand the cost of manufacture/quantity of sale/specialization of the 
> device but 2k for something like that is basically laughing at the blind 
> man's difficulties and adding more fuel to the fire.
> 
> Sorry for my language but i cannot comprehend the level of anger mustering 
> out of me in regards to these so called accessiblity solutions when all it 
> does is one function, and not even that great as i read on

Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Carolyn, The eyepal actually needs a computer, either a windows or mac will 
do ostensibly.  The EyePal solo works without a computer.

I work pretty closely with the humanware people on demoing products and I think 
this was just an honest mistake.  They had just received it back from a CNIB 
office that was showing it, and wanted to get it out to me as soon as they 
could.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2010-12-11, at 9:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Erick:
> Wow, what kind of deal is that?  Did they not tell you you needed that when 
> your ordered?  Is that Humanware?  I'm kind of surprised, as I'd expect 
> better from them.:)
> Does the eye-pal actually need the Mac to run?  I thught it was an 
> independent.
> 
> Carolyn Haas
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 5:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Well boys and girls...  I was all gung hoe to spend the morning with my demo 
>> eyepal, testing it on various printed material and working up a podcast on 
>> the thing.  Unfortunately when I got it out the box I discovered that mac 
>> software was not included.  Further to my irritation, there's no demo 
>> download of the thing.  You have to buy it for $150.  I dano guys this could 
>> be a show stopper for me.  I don't really want to give up on the eyepal just 
>> yet, but I don't want to get ripped off either.  It's just unbelievably 
>> irritating to have the thing sit here and not be able to play with it.  I 
>> might have to rig up a windows solution just to try it out, but that really 
>> wasn't the idea at all.
>> 
>> Shrugs,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: My Eyepal demo is here.

2010-12-12 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, When I go to this page and click the download link for EyePal for the mac, 
it takes me to a paypal order page with an invoice for $150.  It doesn't give 
me the download.  Hum...

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-12-11, at 11:12 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

> Hi Erik,
> 
> I'm not sure where you might have read that you have to pay for the mac 
> software, since it is available for download directly from the abisee support 
> page. Here is the link
> 
> http://www.abisee.com/support/software.html
> 
> I'm not sure why it's such a huge download though. It's about a gigabyte. 
> Anyway, I downloaded it when it first came out but haven't had the 
> opportunity to connect my eyepal and try it out yet.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 4:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
> Well boys and girls...  I was all gung hoe to spend the morning with my demo 
> eyepal, testing it on various printed material and working up a podcast on 
> the thing.  Unfortunately when I got it out the box I discovered that mac 
> software was not included.  Further to my irritation, there's no demo 
> download of the thing.  You have to buy it for $150.  I dano guys this could 
> be a show stopper for me.  I don't really want to give up on the eyepal just 
> yet, but I don't want to get ripped off either.  It's just unbelievably 
> irritating to have the thing sit here and not be able to play with it.  I 
> might have to rig up a windows solution just to try it out, but that really 
> wasn't the idea at all.
> 
> Shrugs,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Larry Skutchan
This is tricky. The most reliable way I have found is to actually click the 
mouse or touch the trackpad. Weather or not you have to do that, you definitely 
want to turn quick nave off in VO. Also, if nothing else works, unload VO. That 
is rarely necessary though.

On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:

> Hi all,
> sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
> and I just need some help.
> I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
> vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
> seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
> sound.
> Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
> me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
> Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
> indicator which never changes.
> 
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vmware fusion weirdness..

2010-12-12 Thread Oriol Gómez
Hi all,
sorry for all the questions lately but I jsut got my new mac yesterday
and I just need some help.
I was listening to a podcast by Mike Arrigo on virtualziation. I got
vmware fusion 3.12. I put my windows cd in, chose easy install,a nd it
seems to install fine up to the point that I hear the windows booting
sound.
Then it says that vmwarje tools is not installeed, but it doesn't let
me press command g to send keystrokes to windows.
Also, the scroll area where you're supposed to type in is a progress
indicator which never changes.

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