Re: Voiceover on, speech off, what did I do?

[gerry cook]

try a 3 fingered double tap  on the track pad and it'll say speech on or off! 
its a tobble.
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  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:55 AM
  Subject: Voiceover on, speech off, what did I do?


  Hi.My cat crawled on my keyboard and turned VO off.  I can turn it on again 
with command f 5, but it says "Voiceover on, speech off," and then goes silent. 
 I have tried the vo - s combination to mute/unmute VO, doesn't help.  Any 
suggestions?

   






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Re: commercial ebooks on lion with vo?

[anouk radix]

Thanks a lot for the information. Its cool that adobe is accessible on 
the mac, it does not seem to work on the pc (with encrypted ebooks). 
Ibooks on the mac would be fantastic, i prefer reading my ebooks in 
braille and dont like this together with the iphone.

Greetings, Anouk,
Op 23-8-2011 18:52, Max schreef:

Hi
This is discussed in more detail in an earlier thread, but basically
it's like this. The Kindle and Kobo Mac apps are not accessible. The
only passable  way to read e-books is with Adobe Digital Editions. You
can buy Adobe incripted ePubs or pdfs from e-book shops like Kobo
and then read them with the Digital Editions app. This app is usable,
but you have to work around some bugs.
I've also heard that iTunes will at some point get something like
ibooks built into it. That is not confirmed though.
Hope this helps

On Aug 22, 1:49 pm, anouk radix  wrote:

Hi everyone,
My new macbook air will arrive soon and I was wondering if it is
possible yet to read ebooks on the mac, by ebooks I mean commercial
encrypted ones with voiceover or built-in text to speech?
I know its possible on the iphone but I prefer doing it ona normal
macbook with my braille display if possible.
Thanks in advance for any information,
Greetings, Anouk,


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Re: Office VS IWorks

[anouk radix]

Hi, maybe this has already been pointed out but there is also openoffice 
for the mac that is accessible. I personally prefer Iwork but thats a 
personal choice.

Greetings, Anouk,
Op 24-8-2011 2:52, Kristyn Leigh schreef:

Office for Mac is not accessible with VoiceOver.

On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:


Hi all,

as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processer mac book pro from my
university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to
provide them with a list of programs that i want to be loaded, i'm
wondering what sort of program that is a must for a university student
to have?

i've request to have ABBY Reader, and they have perchase that for me,
however, , i'm wondering with the choice between office and IWork,
which will be better for my needs? i do alot of word processing tasks,
also, presentation tasks as i'm also a trainer and assessor by
occupation. what is the main different between office and iwork beside
one from MS , and one from Apple?

any other program suggestion will be also much appreciated.

thanks

cheers

Joanne (Australia)

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Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Donna,

Looking at this, I've owned the 15in MBP and all three of the Air's, the 
original incarnation and now the 2010 11in and the revised 2011 11in.

Firstly sound, if you were looking at the original 13in Air, the sound was 
hopeless, with a mono single speaker I really didn't like that thing.

The 11in 2010 and 2011 models though for me solve that. there's stereo baby 
built right in there, and although there's not much bass to talk of, the sound 
is clear and it packs a surprising amount of punch for its size.

put against the 15in, its a notable difference in richness and output, but 
against the 13in MBP, I think less so.

you do have the bass issue and if you like your tones, not just music but Alex 
etc to have that depth it might make you think, but I find that once I sit down 
in front of it, unless I'm working with my iMac along side the Air, which I do 
every now and then, you'll not notice it.

Looking at this DVD business, lets see, presumably you're not watching DVD's in 
the class room etc, so why not just leave the USB drive for that in your hotel 
etc, I've seen you state that this lack of a DVD drive is a real issue, but 
only as you seem to watch films, well as someone else has said, a lot of it is 
downloadable now, you can also rip them, and finally, if you're like me, why 
should I pay to download something I own on disk, spend the additional $80 and 
get the super drive... leave it in your hotel room and you're good to go.

I use my Air for everything when I'm not at a desk, and my iMac if I am.

The issue that a lot of folk seem to be throwing up over spec and performance, 
you really need to ask yourself what you're going to be doing with it, I find 
my Air faster than my MBP 15in, which I had as a late 2010 model with full 
processor upgrade, I think a 2.9Ghz i7 with 4Gb of RAM. but you see most of 
what I do is word processing, e-mail and internet, oh and iTunes / watching 
DVD's.

I carry my MBA all around the world with me, leaving the super drive in hotel 
rooms or my carry on in a plane if its a long flight.

I personally think its really the way to go if you're seriously looking to 
lighten the load.

there is an InCase sleeve for the 11in and 13in available from the Apple online 
store, I use this and think its great... for whoever asked that question.

HTH.

Neil Barnfather.
On 15 Aug 2011, at 20:29, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi Mika,

I believe there's a program called DVD Remaster that does that, though I 
haven't tried it.  In the long-term, your definitely right, I suspect there'll 
come a time not all that far off when having a DVD drive will seem as obsolete 
as having a floppy drive does now.  But for me anyway, that time hasn't quite 
arrived yet.  But, as with Chris's mention of the lack of an SD card slot, this 
is a question of personal preference and usage.

The processor question is a tricky one.  The processor on the MBA is slower 
than that on the MBP.  But the solid state drive should make up for a lot of 
the difference there.
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:

> As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard drive of 
> say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the road?
> 
> I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being acquired 
> through a platform like the Mac app store.
> 
> I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have a 
> built in DVD drive?
> 
> Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I would 
> tend to have.  I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how much of an 
> improvement the processor is, etc.
> 
> BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent 
> release), bought in early 2011.  I still found I mostly used Jaws, mainly 
> because I'm still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and for Qwitter, 
> though I have not really spent the necessary time to learn the Mac ways of 
> doing things.
> 
> 
> Best,
> mika
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
> 
> Hey Chris,
> 
> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
> 
> That 11-inch Air is *really calling my name.  I would have given anything 
> to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big enough that 
> I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can see why you're 
> sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more powerful device.  
> And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with the iPad, I'd be all 
> over it!
> 
> I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I can't 
> see going without a built-in DVD drive, 

And the charging problems get even weirder!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Well, since I got my new charger from Apple for my Macbook, I thought I'd be 
living happily ever after.  Well, almost, but not quite…

Perhaps you all can explain this one to me.  I have installed Bootcamp running 
Windows 7 Ultimate.  The strange thing is, if I am in OSX Lion, my battery 
charges consistently and perfectly every time.  If on the other hand, I'm in 
Windows 7 through Bootcamp, I have to remove my charger, wait about 10 seconds, 
then plug the charger back in for it to take effect and begin charging.  Even 
if the battery is completely full I have this problem.  I did indeed download 
and install all the supported bootcamp software under Windows that includes the 
drivers, all the bootcamp control panel stuff, etc.  I must say, this is 
becoming weirder by the minute.  Are there any additional drivers I need to 
install that may not a been included in the bootcamp software?  Shall I maybe 
try running a Windows update?  

Again, this is a 13 inch stocked mid 2010 white macbook.

Thanks much.

Chris.

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Definitive guide to installing another OS on a new Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Hello all, I have seen bits and pieces of this here several times but is
there a good complete step by step guide to setting up a second
operating system under boot camp, for example say something like Windows
7? Hopefully something that explains setting up the disk partition and
installing the proper drivers etc. Any help would greatly be
appreciated.
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free pdf to txt converters

[chad baker]

hi does anyone know of any free pdf to txt converters out there
i downloaded one its not lion compatible
i need to convert a pdf to txt
also maybe a online converter
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embossers on usb parallel ports?

[erik burggraaf]

Hi guys,

Some one on blind ad is offering a couple of parallel embossers and I was 
wondering.  In theory you should be able to hook one of these up using a mac OS 
compatible usb parallel adapter and translate and emboss using louis.  Has any 
one gotten this to work?  If so, what adapter did you use?

Thanks,

Erik Burggraaf
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AirPlay and DVD-player

[David Hole]

Hi folks.
Can anyone tell me if the DVD-player on the Mac can send sound via
AirPlay, or do I have to use Airfoil to do this?
-David

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RE: Definitive guide to installing another OS on a new Mac

[Bill Holton]

Google this and it should lead you there
manuals.info.apple.com/en/boot_camp_install-setup.pdf


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Definitive guide to installing another OS on a new Mac

Hello all, I have seen bits and pieces of this here several times but is
there a good complete step by step guide to setting up a second
operating system under boot camp, for example say something like Windows
7? Hopefully something that explains setting up the disk partition and
installing the proper drivers etc. Any help would greatly be
appreciated.
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Re: free pdf to txt converters

[Karen Lewellen]

I have referenced this option before.
robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
provides a number of pdf conversion options, mostly via e-mail.
if you send our file to
conv...@robobraille.org
and specify the desired format change in the subject line only
say
txt
they will send you back a converted document.
they will convert to braille too I think do not know do not use that one, and 
even to an mp3 file if you wish.
because I am selective about my text quality, I have it changed to rtf, 
use our rtf converter at shellworld to create an html file and let lynx 
give me lovely text...but that is me.
if the details are confusing, write me off list, send me the file and I 
will do it for you.

Karen

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hi does anyone know of any free pdf to txt converters out there
i downloaded one its not lion compatible
i need to convert a pdf to txt
also maybe a online converter
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safari address bar copy url?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi all,
When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the address 
bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the cursor to the 
start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the entire line with 
shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get this copied to the 
clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be missing?
I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
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Re: Avout Radium

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Fransisco,
I didn't find a directory listing either, but if you type a station name in the 
search field, it will come up. You will find a checkbox beside it to make it 
one of your favorites. From then on, press command left and right to go through 
your favorite stations.
Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> My question is, How can i get the stations directory? i updated it but i 
> didn't find it
> 
> Thanks in advanzed,
> 
> Francisco
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Re: safari address bar copy url?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

You're making life difficult for yourself. Command-L takes you to the address 
bar and highlights the whole URL. Just do Command-c and you're good to go.

Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Aug 2011, at 16:16, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi all,
> When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
> clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the address 
> bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the cursor to the 
> start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the entire line 
> with shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get this copied to 
> the clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be missing?
> I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
> Paul.
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Re: safari address bar copy url?

[Hai Nguyen Ly]

Hello Paul, 
When you press command L to move focus to the address bar, all you need to do 
from here is press command C if you wish to copy the address to the clipboard 
since the text is already highlighted.
Hope this helps.


On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi all,
> When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
> clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the address 
> bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the cursor to the 
> start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the entire line 
> with shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get this copied to 
> the clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be missing?
> I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
> Paul.
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Re: safari address bar copy url?

[Chris Blouch]

Two things to make this simpler. First, Command-L not only moves you to 
the URL input field but it also selects all the text in there. So you 
should be able to just do Command-L Command-C and be done. If you do 
interact with the text and then want to select all the text again, 
rather than navigating around just use Command-A for "select all" and 
then copy.


CB

On 8/25/11 10:16 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

Hi all,
When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the address 
bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the cursor to the 
start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the entire line with 
shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get this copied to the 
clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be missing?
I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
Paul.



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Re: safari address bar copy url?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Anne, Chris and Hai,
That does it. Solved. Thanks a lot.
Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Two things to make this simpler. First, Command-L not only moves you to the 
> URL input field but it also selects all the text in there. So you should be 
> able to just do Command-L Command-C and be done. If you do interact with the 
> text and then want to select all the text again, rather than navigating 
> around just use Command-A for "select all" and then copy.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/25/11 10:16 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
>> clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the 
>> address bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the 
>> cursor to the start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the 
>> entire line with shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get 
>> this copied to the clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be 
>> missing?
>> I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
>> Paul.
>> 
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filevault Lion experiences

[Paul Erkens]

Hi all,
Just passing on my experience with Lion's file vault. I thought it'd be 
difficult but it's not. Carefully read the dialogs and you're all set. No 
complicated setup. Encryption takes a while. Only thing you are going to 
sacrifice is a voice over supported log in. With encryption enabled, you will 
still get audible feedback though, and it is workable. I thought I'd give it a 
shot so I backed up securely and turned it on, but I don't think I'll revert 
back to normal. I don't notice any speed degradation, though it may be present. 
It just doesn't get in the way. Of course, if your full disk is encrypted, only 
avery  small part of the os can be left unencrypted, so that's why you don't 
have voiceover at the login prompt. The prompt now comes very quickly, and the 
rest of the os is loaded after you enter valid credentials.
Paul.

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Windows 7 and VMWare

[Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.]

Hello all,

I have reason to believe I've somehow disabled my Windows 7 from running under 
VMWare Fusion.
I was playing around in VMWare and it read somethig to the effect that it had 
one or two files in the library. I believe one was windows.

Now the program, VMWare, says it has no windows, even though I get the Windows 
is running message under the Virtual Machine menu.

There are the occasional Windows program windows I get to with command-tab. 
These behave like Mac OS windows, but as I said are things I had opened in 
Windows 7 such as Jaws, and Windows Explorer.

I can some times get to running Windows smoothly, but I do not remember later 
how I got to get things to work, and put the focus on it.
I continue to run into something called unity before windows starts, and I 
chose the open window option to interac with the virtual machine.

I can tell windows is running somewhere. Qwitter messages download, and screen 
reading is takig place as normal for all of the initial windows prompts, but 
then I can not find how to work in windows for the life of me.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Antonio



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Re: Questions about mac mini

[Chris Blouch]

So this could be fixed only in the server version, which would make some 
sense. Everyone else will still have to do the VGA to NTSC contraption I 
outlined previously or use a real monitor.


CB

On 8/24/11 11:08 PM, John Panarese wrote:

 Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It was 
Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box.  For 
me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my Mini 
without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but I now 
know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did or similar 
ones when not using a monitor.
On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:

Take Care

John Panarese
jpanar...@gmail.com




i disagree.
this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is slow 
when i don't have the monitor connected.

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Re: Mike H a question regarding you toob and the mac.

[Paul Erkens]

Mike,
On youtube, you can find a link to download flash for mac. It's from Adobe. 
Just install it, forget about it and enjoy hearing youtube.
Paul.
On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Mike Huckabay wrote:

> Hi there dus anny one know of a good utility for the mac to play, manage 
> subscriptions and more that is accessible for the mac?
> Just wondering what other's are using to watch you toob videos.
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Re: dropbox for mac

[Paul Erkens]

Hi,
Does any of you know if the new mac dropbox accessibility that is present in 
the beta, has been appearing in the latest stable dropbox for mac version yet?
Paul.
On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

> Hi,
> This should help and all the steps do work correctly (well they did for me.)
> Click this link.
> http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/05/25/how-to-install-dropbox-on-the-mac-using-voiceover/
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:28 PM, angie Giltinan wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I'm a brand new mac user, and I'm wondering about dropbox, I depend 
>> on it quite a lot, so want to know the best app, and how it works on the max.
>> Thanks for your help in advance! 
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RE: Questions about mac mini

[Bill Holton]

Actually, I need to do a bit more checking.  I do notice that even though VO
comes up on my logon screen, often I have to turn it back on once I reach
the desktop.  And even though I don't have it connected to a monitor, I do
have a cable connected.
jAlso, the server version isn't really different from the standard version.
I got a doc from Apple describing how to revert to a standard version, and
basically, if you haven't set up networking, which I have not, the first and
only step is to delete the server icon from the dock.


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Subject: Re: Questions about mac mini

So this could be fixed only in the server version, which would make some 
sense. Everyone else will still have to do the VGA to NTSC contraption I 
outlined previously or use a real monitor.

CB

On 8/24/11 11:08 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>  Yes, I just bought mine a week ago, so I don't think it is fixed.  It
was Chris who recommended the setup with the VGA adaptor and converter box.
For me, this has fixed the issues I was having and I am happily using my
Mini without a monitor.  Apparently, this varies from person to person, but
I now know of four others who experienced either the exact problems I did or
similar ones when not using a monitor.
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:45 PM, james Walton wrote:
>
> Take Care
>
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>> i disagree.
>> this is the mid2011 mini. the finder becomes slow and the status bar is
slow when i don't have the monitor connected.
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Re: Questions about mac mini

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I have a 2009 mac mini without a monitor amnd it is working fine.  I do entend 
to get a vga addapter to connect thoough so we will see how my machine works 
with it.

Matthew


On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> 1. Run without a monitor: it is doable, but VO will not automatically
> start. I have not experienced the system preferences not saving that
> another lister described. I bought my Mini last week and updated to
> 10.7.1, so it should be the same type you will get.
> 
> 2. Use iTouch as trackpad: this is also doable, but not, to my
> knowledge, in an accessible way. I contacted the developer of one such
> app, the most popular one I could find, to ask just that question and
> was told that accessibility is on the list for a future update but is
> not there yet.
> 3. Show mac screen on iTouch: It looks like this is also possible, but
> no word on accessibility. A common app, from a quick google search,
> seems to be Team Viewer.
> 
> On 8/24/11, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am considering buying a Mac mini and have a few usability questions I hope
>> you can help me with:
>> 1. Do any of you use the mac mini without attaching a screen to it? If so
>> does it work ok or with limitations other than obviously not having info on
>> screen. (smile).
>> 
>> 2. Are there any apps that can turn iphone in trackpad for mac mini and
>> support the voiceover gestures so I don't have to buy one?
>> 3. Can one send the info to the display of an other computer or say an
>> iphone so that my sighted husband could troubleshoot if need be and follow
>> what I do on screen? I think this one is a bit unrealistic but thought I'd
>> ask.
>> Thanks for your help,
>> 
>> Ioana
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Re: Avout Radium

[Larry McCreary]

Hello,
I am unable to find a trial copy of radium.  I would appreciate someone 
advising me where I can locate the trial copy.
thanks
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Fransisco,
> I didn't find a directory listing either, but if you type a station name in 
> the search field, it will come up. You will find a checkbox beside it to make 
> it one of your favorites. From then on, press command left and right to go 
> through your favorite stations.
> Paul.
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My question is, How can i get the stations directory? i updated it but i 
>> didn't find it
>> 
>> Thanks in advanzed,
>> 
>> Francisco
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Re: Avout Radium

[Paul Erkens]

Lary,
>From the app store, if you first find radium, there is a link to find their 
>website. From there, you can download a trial version, which is not possible 
>in the app store.
Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Larry McCreary wrote:

> Hello,
> I am unable to find a trial copy of radium.  I would appreciate someone 
> advising me where I can locate the trial copy.
> thanks
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Fransisco,
>> I didn't find a directory listing either, but if you type a station name in 
>> the search field, it will come up. You will find a checkbox beside it to 
>> make it one of your favorites. From then on, press command left and right to 
>> go through your favorite stations.
>> Paul.
>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My question is, How can i get the stations directory? i updated it but i 
>>> didn't find it
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advanzed,
>>> 
>>> Francisco
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Lion mail search interface and vo

[Paul Erkens]

Dear list,

Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, and 
type something in,
1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message body 
seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find messages with 
an attachment? After having typed the search term, I don't really know what to 
do next. I don't see a menu of some sort. I try to arrow around, and I 
sometimes hit parts of the interface. Can anyone tell how this is layed out, 
and how one should operate it?

Paul.

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device manager present on the mac?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi list,

When I connect a USB scanner, even before having installed its drivers, is 
there a way to verify that the mac sees a USB device? Is there sort of a device 
manager present in os10? I suppose there will be. In windows, one can see which 
devices are detected, but have no drivers installed, or devices having problems 
with their driver. Where do I go for this on the mac? Is it easy to uninstall a 
driver if you no longer need a device for which you once installed drivers? 

Paul.

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Re: creating different voiceOver activities

[Paul Erkens]

Another way to switch languages on the fly is to use the vo command arrows. If 
you have both an English and the Spanish voice installed, hold down control 
option command, and use the left and right arrows to choose an aspect of the 
voice you want to change. One of them, among pitch etc, is the voice itself. 
So, stop arrowing left or right as soon as you hear the word voice. Keep 
holding down v o command, and this time, use the arrows up and down to switch 
from one voice to the other. Voiceover remembers the last 2 voices you used, 
and once you have switched from English to Spanish and back, these 2 voices 
will be at the top of the list.

>From then on, pressing v o command down will get you to the other language. 
>Pressing it again will switch back.

Hth,
Paul.
On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> I don't know if you can get it to switch languages on the fly, but you could 
> at least create an appropriate activity.
> 
> 1. Go into VoiceOver utility with Vo-f8.
> 2. Go down to activities, then go over to the add button and hit it. Type in 
> a name, Spanish for example.
> 3. Now you'll see your new activity in the table. Go over to the checkboxes. 
> These control which controls you can configure.
> 4. Check the Voices box and hit the button. Now you'll see a mostly familiar 
> screen to configure your voice. Choose your spanish voice, make any other 
> changes and hit close. Repeat this for any other groups of settings you wish 
> to configure.
> 5. Exit the VoiceOver utility. Now to use the activity, hit Vo-x. You can 
> switch between the last two activities with Vo-x-x, so you could easily 
> switch between English and Spanish.
> 
> That should do it.
> 
> - AUstin
> 
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> How do you create a VoiceOver actvity? I want to set up Monica the Spanish 
>> voice I believe from Spain to read my E-mails from my finacé. How do I do 
>> this? I have no idea how to go about this, but I have heard people talk 
>> about how it can be done. Can anyone give me a step by step guide? Thank you 
>> so much for any assistance you can provide. Have a  great evening.
>> 
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
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Re: Lion mail search interface and vo

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Paul!
When I use this in SL after typing the search word I stop interacting and then 
get further choices like all mail boxes or the one I'm in like trash then 
choices like sent from subject whole of message then at the end the table of 
results!
Then I just interact with that table and scroll through!
hth Colin

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> Dear list,
> 
> Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, and 
> type something in,
> 1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
> 2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message 
> body seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find 
> messages with an attachment? After having typed the search term, I don't 
> really know what to do next. I don't see a menu of some sort. I try to arrow 
> around, and I sometimes hit parts of the interface. Can anyone tell how this 
> is laid out, and how one should operate it?
> 
> Paul.
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Re: Facebook app

[Simon Cavendish]

I saw some posts on the list a while ago, reviewing favourably  an application 
called ""Trillian" (if I remember correctly), available from the app store. 
Maybe you could try it out, or else look for some earlier posts using the 
search term Trillian on the archive page.

With best wishes

Simon
On 25 Aug 2011, at 01:18, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> can you suggest me a Facebook app accessible with Voice Over? i need it 
> because i can't navigate the mobile web with Safary
> 
> Thanks in advanzed,
> 
> Francisco
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Re: Lion mail search interface and vo

[RvR]

Paul,
I answered this already on the Dutch list.
Better check if people reply to your questions ;-)
Best,
Ronald

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 25 aug. 2011 om 19:29 heeft Paul Erkens  het volgende 
geschreven:

> Dear list,
> 
> Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, and 
> type something in,
> 1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
> 2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message 
> body seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find 
> messages with an attachment? After having typed the search term, I don't 
> really know what to do next. I don't see a menu of some sort. I try to arrow 
> around, and I sometimes hit parts of the interface. Can anyone tell how this 
> is layed out, and how one should operate it?
> 
> Paul.
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Re: dropbox for mac

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

What accessibility are you referring to?

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi,
> Does any of you know if the new mac dropbox accessibility that is present in 
> the beta, has been appearing in the latest stable dropbox for mac version yet?
> Paul.
> On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> This should help and all the steps do work correctly (well they did for me.)
>> Click this link.
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/05/25/how-to-install-dropbox-on-the-mac-using-voiceover/
>> HTH,
>> Jeffrey
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:28 PM, angie Giltinan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, I'm a brand new mac user, and I'm wondering about dropbox, I depend 
>>> on it quite a lot, so want to know the best app, and how it works on the 
>>> max.
>>> Thanks for your help in advance! 
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Re: safari address bar copy url?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Paul. Once you move to the address bar, the address text is already 
highlighted. So you can press command-l followed by command-c, then open an 
email and paste it in with command-v. It worked for me just now when I tried it.

HTH,
Teresa 
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> Hi all,
> When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
> clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the address 
> bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the cursor to the 
> start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the entire line 
> with shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get this copied to 
> the clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be missing?
> I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
> Paul.
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Re: safari address bar copy url?

[Teresa Cochran]

Woops, I didn't read this entire conversation; sorry about that. :)

Teresa
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> Hi, Paul. Once you move to the address bar, the address text is already 
> highlighted. So you can press command-l followed by command-c, then open an 
> email and paste it in with command-v. It worked for me just now when I tried 
> it.
> 
> HTH,
> Teresa 
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> When attempting to copy the contents of the safari address bar to the 
>> clipboard, command c for copy seems disabled. I first navigate to the 
>> address bar with command l. Then I turn quicknav off. Then, I move the 
>> cursor to the start of the line with command left arrow. Then, I select the 
>> entire line with shift command right arrow. Then, I press command c to get 
>> this copied to the clipboard, but command c bangs. Any idea what I may be 
>> missing?
>> I'm trying to copy the url for pasting in an email.
>> Paul.
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Re: How to copy text from PDF-files?

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Thomas,

While this method works with some PDF files, it won't work at all with others.

1.  When you encounter a PDF file, open it.  On the Mac, the program used for 
looking at PDF files is called "Preview," and it should automatically launch 
when you open the PDF file from within Finder.

2.  When the document has been opened, enter Command +A to highlight the entire 
document.

3.  Enter Command+C to copy the contents to the clipboard.

4.  Launch Text Edit and paste the contents of the clipboard by entering  
Command+v into the empty document.

If this doesn't work for you, contact me off list and I can tell you about a 
service that converts several different file formats into something readable.

Best regards,

Mike
 
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> Hi!
> 
> Is it possible to copy text from A PDF-file on the Mac and if it is, how can 
> it be done?
> 
> Best regards
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Re: Lion mail search interface and vo

[Thomas Byskov Dalgaard]

Hi!

Would you kindly tell a bit about more of the search-options I'm not on that 
list since I do not speak Dutch.
Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Thomas
Den 25/08/2011 kl. 20.06 skrev RvR:

> Paul,
> I answered this already on the Dutch list.
> Better check if people reply to your questions ;-)
> Best,
> Ronald
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> 
> Op 25 aug. 2011 om 19:29 heeft Paul Erkens  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Dear list,
>> 
>> Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, 
>> and type something in,
>> 1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
>> 2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message 
>> body seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find 
>> messages with an attachment? After having typed the search term, I don't 
>> really know what to do next. I don't see a menu of some sort. I try to arrow 
>> around, and I sometimes hit parts of the interface. Can anyone tell how this 
>> is layed out, and how one should operate it?
>> 
>> Paul.
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Re: dropbox for mac

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Ricardo,
As far as I know, if you use dropbox on the mac, you won't be able to access 
any of its settings, because voiceover can't see its icon in the menu bar. 
People have to do something special, which I can't remember, to actually get 
into the dropbox status menu item. Is that still true?

Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> What accessibility are you referring to?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Does any of you know if the new mac dropbox accessibility that is present in 
>> the beta, has been appearing in the latest stable dropbox for mac version 
>> yet?
>> Paul.
>> On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> This should help and all the steps do work correctly (well they did for me.)
>>> Click this link.
>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/05/25/how-to-install-dropbox-on-the-mac-using-voiceover/
>>> HTH,
>>> Jeffrey
>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:28 PM, angie Giltinan wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all, I'm a brand new mac user, and I'm wondering about dropbox, I 
 depend on it quite a lot, so want to know the best app, and how it works 
 on the max.
 Thanks for your help in advance! 
 
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trackpad commands lost, pls help!

[William Windels]

Hello All,
Because of the different bugs and possible discussions On the mailing list, I 
have made a clean install of lion after testing lion above sl..

No, it seems that I have lost all me commander-settings like keyboard commander 
and also the predefined keys in the trackpad commander.
The commanders are set on.
I have also tried to import the last main voprefs file that was made while lion 
was installed above sl but no success.
Also, When I have imported a earlier voprefs-file with only the trackpad 
commands included in it, this gives also no result.

So, what can be wrong with this?

Something strange I discovered perhaps:
If I chose to open the vopref-files from inside the finder, with the open with 
option, I have 2 possibilities:
voiceoverutilitycachbuilder.app (default)
or : voiceover-utility.app 

What should be the difference?

Thx alot for your help .

best regards,
William

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Trouble with password field

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
I am trying to set up bootcamp drivers to copy onto a disk.  The Admin
request dialog comes up, I can enter my account name, but no matter how I
move to the password field nothing types in.  No clicking sound, no visible
*'s or anything, and if I type it in and press return the dialog closes as
failed.  
I have tried swiping to the field, tabbing to the field, moving to the field
and interacting, every way, it would seem, but the correct way.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: trackpad commands lost, pls help!

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,

there seems to be an issue with ex- or importing VoiceOver settings in Lion. I 
even lost my pronunciations and who knows what else.
Please send your experience also to 
accessibility@apple dot com. 

All the best
Jürgen

Am 25.08.2011 um 15:54 schrieb William Windels:

> Hello All,
> Because of the different bugs and possible discussions On the mailing list, I 
> have made a clean install of lion after testing lion above sl..
> 
> No, it seems that I have lost all me commander-settings like keyboard 
> commander and also the predefined keys in the trackpad commander.
> The commanders are set on.
> I have also tried to import the last main voprefs file that was made while 
> lion was installed above sl but no success.
> Also, When I have imported a earlier voprefs-file with only the trackpad 
> commands included in it, this gives also no result.
> 
> So, what can be wrong with this?
> 
> Something strange I discovered perhaps:
> If I chose to open the vopref-files from inside the finder, with the open 
> with option, I have 2 possibilities:
> voiceoverutilitycachbuilder.app (default)
> or : voiceover-utility.app 
> 
> What should be the difference?
> 
> Thx alot for your help .
> 
> best regards,
> William
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Re: trackpad commands lost, pls help!

[William Windels]

Thx jurgen.
I have already reported this to accessibility without responce at this moment.
Is there no workaround to import voprefs?
Thx for your answers


Mvg
william Windels

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 25-aug.-2011 om 22:41 heeft Jürgen Fleger  het 
volgende geschreven:

> Hi,
> 
> there seems to be an issue with ex- or importing VoiceOver settings in Lion. 
> I even lost my pronunciations and who knows what else.
> Please send your experience also to 
> accessibility@apple dot com. 
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 25.08.2011 um 15:54 schrieb William Windels:
> 
>> Hello All,
>> Because of the different bugs and possible discussions On the mailing list, 
>> I have made a clean install of lion after testing lion above sl..
>> 
>> No, it seems that I have lost all me commander-settings like keyboard 
>> commander and also the predefined keys in the trackpad commander.
>> The commanders are set on.
>> I have also tried to import the last main voprefs file that was made while 
>> lion was installed above sl but no success.
>> Also, When I have imported a earlier voprefs-file with only the trackpad 
>> commands included in it, this gives also no result.
>> 
>> So, what can be wrong with this?
>> 
>> Something strange I discovered perhaps:
>> If I chose to open the vopref-files from inside the finder, with the open 
>> with option, I have 2 possibilities:
>> voiceoverutilitycachbuilder.app (default)
>> or : voiceover-utility.app 
>> 
>> What should be the difference?
>> 
>> Thx alot for your help .
>> 
>> best regards,
>> William
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Re: device manager present on the mac?

[Scott Howell]

Paul,

Go to the menu (VO-m) or control-f2, choose "About this Mac", and choose "More 
INfo" button. You can navigate through the information and find out all sorts 
of stuff about your Mac and the devices attached to it.

On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> When I connect a USB scanner, even before having installed its drivers, is 
> there a way to verify that the mac sees a USB device? Is there sort of a 
> device manager present in os10? I suppose there will be. In windows, one can 
> see which devices are detected, but have no drivers installed, or devices 
> having problems with their driver. Where do I go for this on the mac? Is it 
> easy to uninstall a driver if you no longer need a device for which you once 
> installed drivers? 
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Re: dropbox for mac

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

as far as I'm aware the problem still exists.  But, it doesn't even matter if 
you did the work around to get to the dropbox icon in the status menu since the 
settings window isn't even visible to voiceover.  Darcy Bernard posted a way 
around this but I can't remember it for the life of me.  You might be able to 
find it in the archives.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Ricardo,
> As far as I know, if you use dropbox on the mac, you won't be able to access 
> any of its settings, because voiceover can't see its icon in the menu bar. 
> People have to do something special, which I can't remember, to actually get 
> into the dropbox status menu item. Is that still true?
> 
> Paul.
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What accessibility are you referring to?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Does any of you know if the new mac dropbox accessibility that is present 
>>> in the beta, has been appearing in the latest stable dropbox for mac 
>>> version yet?
>>> Paul.
>>> On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 This should help and all the steps do work correctly (well they did for 
 me.)
 Click this link.
 http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/05/25/how-to-install-dropbox-on-the-mac-using-voiceover/
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:28 PM, angie Giltinan wrote:
 
> Hi all, I'm a brand new mac user, and I'm wondering about dropbox, I 
> depend on it quite a lot, so want to know the best app, and how it works 
> on the max.
> Thanks for your help in advance! 
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Re: trackpad commands lost, pls help!

[Paul Erkens]

Hi William,

Maybe it is a good idea to recreate your settings for the time being. If Jurgen 
has not received a response, it could take a while until this  bug in voiceover 
is going to be fixed. If you now save your vo prefs under lion, you will likely 
be able to import those again later. It could be that snow leopard exports its 
vo settings in a slightly different file format than Lion, but that is a guess. 
Anyhow, Depending on how much work it is, recreating them may outweigh the nag 
of not having them right now. Each time you want to use a trackpad command that 
doesn't work yet, create it on the fly. No real solution to the problem, I 
admit, but when you're done it may take away some frustration.
Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:21 PM, William Windels wrote:

> Thx jurgen.
> I have already reported this to accessibility without responce at this moment.
> Is there no workaround to import voprefs?
> Thx for your answers
> 
> 
> Mvg
> william Windels
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> 
> Op 25-aug.-2011 om 22:41 heeft Jürgen Fleger  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> there seems to be an issue with ex- or importing VoiceOver settings in Lion. 
>> I even lost my pronunciations and who knows what else.
>> Please send your experience also to 
>> accessibility@apple dot com. 
>> 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> Am 25.08.2011 um 15:54 schrieb William Windels:
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> Because of the different bugs and possible discussions On the mailing list, 
>>> I have made a clean install of lion after testing lion above sl..
>>> 
>>> No, it seems that I have lost all me commander-settings like keyboard 
>>> commander and also the predefined keys in the trackpad commander.
>>> The commanders are set on.
>>> I have also tried to import the last main voprefs file that was made while 
>>> lion was installed above sl but no success.
>>> Also, When I have imported a earlier voprefs-file with only the trackpad 
>>> commands included in it, this gives also no result.
>>> 
>>> So, what can be wrong with this?
>>> 
>>> Something strange I discovered perhaps:
>>> If I chose to open the vopref-files from inside the finder, with the open 
>>> with option, I have 2 possibilities:
>>> voiceoverutilitycachbuilder.app (default)
>>> or : voiceover-utility.app 
>>> 
>>> What should be the difference?
>>> 
>>> Thx alot for your help .
>>> 
>>> best regards,
>>> William
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Re: device manager present on the mac?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Scott,
Well, I never knew it was there. That is definitely a wonderful source of 
information, apple, about this mac, more info. It does give USB information, 
but to what extent I can use it to troubleshoot stuff, I still need to find 
out. But useful it is indeed. Thanks a lot.

Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> Go to the menu (VO-m) or control-f2, choose "About this Mac", and choose 
> "More INfo" button. You can navigate through the information and find out all 
> sorts of stuff about your Mac and the devices attached to it.
> 
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> When I connect a USB scanner, even before having installed its drivers, is 
>> there a way to verify that the mac sees a USB device? Is there sort of a 
>> device manager present in os10? I suppose there will be. In windows, one can 
>> see which devices are detected, but have no drivers installed, or devices 
>> having problems with their driver. Where do I go for this on the mac? Is it 
>> easy to uninstall a driver if you no longer need a device for which you once 
>> installed drivers? 
>> 
>> Paul.
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Re: dropbox for mac

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Ricardo,
Thanks for your answer. For the record, the article I think you mean, regarding 
how to install dropbox in a voiceover friendly manner, is on lioncourt.com. or 
accessibility.net, I believe that is the same website.
Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> as far as I'm aware the problem still exists.  But, it doesn't even matter if 
> you did the work around to get to the dropbox icon in the status menu since 
> the settings window isn't even visible to voiceover.  Darcy Bernard posted a 
> way around this but I can't remember it for the life of me.  You might be 
> able to find it in the archives.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ricardo,
>> As far as I know, if you use dropbox on the mac, you won't be able to access 
>> any of its settings, because voiceover can't see its icon in the menu bar. 
>> People have to do something special, which I can't remember, to actually get 
>> into the dropbox status menu item. Is that still true?
>> 
>> Paul.
>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What accessibility are you referring to?
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Does any of you know if the new mac dropbox accessibility that is present 
 in the beta, has been appearing in the latest stable dropbox for mac 
 version yet?
 Paul.
 On Jul 25, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
 
> Hi,
> This should help and all the steps do work correctly (well they did for 
> me.)
> Click this link.
> http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/05/25/how-to-install-dropbox-on-the-mac-using-voiceover/
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:28 PM, angie Giltinan wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I'm a brand new mac user, and I'm wondering about dropbox, I 
>> depend on it quite a lot, so want to know the best app, and how it works 
>> on the max.
>> Thanks for your help in advance! 
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Re: Lion mail search interface and vo

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Colin,
Unfortunately, this is what I've been reading so far. But in Lion mail, well, 
at least in my setup and my machine, simply typing a search in the mail 
toolbar, stopping to interact  and then vo arrowing around, does not take me to 
any further choices you mention. Hopefully someone else would like to kick in 
here? Being able to use search in Lion mail is something I would love to get my 
mind around, because I miss the functionality.
Paul.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Paul!
> When I use this in SL after typing the search word I stop interacting and 
> then get further choices like all mail boxes or the one I'm in like trash 
> then choices like sent from subject whole of message then at the end the 
> table of results!
> Then I just interact with that table and scroll through!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 25 Aug 2011, at 18:29, Paul Erkens wrote:
> 
>> Dear list,
>> 
>> Question is: Once you go to the search field in the toolbar in Lion mail, 
>> and type something in,
>> 1. Do I press enter afterwards or not?
>> 2. What exactly can I search for? Through subject lines and in the message 
>> body seems apparent, but can you also search message headers, or find 
>> messages with an attachment? After having typed the search term, I don't 
>> really know what to do next. I don't see a menu of some sort. I try to arrow 
>> around, and I sometimes hit parts of the interface. Can anyone tell how this 
>> is laid out, and how one should operate it?
>> 
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Re: trackpad commands lost, pls help!

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi William,
sorry, I have no work around. But fortunately VoiceOver Lion doesn't seem to 
reset itself from time to time as it was in Snow Leopard. So hopefully there is 
no need for a quick solution.
All the best
Jürgen
Am 25.08.2011 um 17:21 schrieb William Windels:

> Thx jurgen.
> I have already reported this to accessibility without responce at this moment.
> Is there no workaround to import voprefs?
> Thx for your answers
> 
> 
> Mvg
> william Windels
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> 
> Op 25-aug.-2011 om 22:41 heeft Jürgen Fleger  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> there seems to be an issue with ex- or importing VoiceOver settings in Lion. 
>> I even lost my pronunciations and who knows what else.
>> Please send your experience also to 
>> accessibility@apple dot com. 
>> 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> Am 25.08.2011 um 15:54 schrieb William Windels:
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> Because of the different bugs and possible discussions On the mailing list, 
>>> I have made a clean install of lion after testing lion above sl..
>>> 
>>> No, it seems that I have lost all me commander-settings like keyboard 
>>> commander and also the predefined keys in the trackpad commander.
>>> The commanders are set on.
>>> I have also tried to import the last main voprefs file that was made while 
>>> lion was installed above sl but no success.
>>> Also, When I have imported a earlier voprefs-file with only the trackpad 
>>> commands included in it, this gives also no result.
>>> 
>>> So, what can be wrong with this?
>>> 
>>> Something strange I discovered perhaps:
>>> If I chose to open the vopref-files from inside the finder, with the open 
>>> with option, I have 2 possibilities:
>>> voiceoverutilitycachbuilder.app (default)
>>> or : voiceover-utility.app 
>>> 
>>> What should be the difference?
>>> 
>>> Thx alot for your help .
>>> 
>>> best regards,
>>> William
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Re: itunes issue

[Denise Avant]

hi,
when i move to the table, it says music table. then when i arrow down, i get no 
response from vo. i don't see any other obvious issues.

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> Hi Denise,
> 
> I checked this out on a SL machine today and iTunes behaves properly for me.  
> I do not have Quicknav on.  I can arrow without VO keys while Interacting 
> with or simply focusing on the Songs table.  Have you tried restarting your 
> computer to see if there are any other factors that could be affecting iTunes 
> for you?
> 
> Later…
> 
> On 2011-08-24, at 3:04 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> thanks. i do not have quick nav turned on. i just noticed that when i 
>> arrowed up and down in my songs list, vo would not speak automatically 
>> unless i interact with the table.
>> it speaks fine when i arrow up and down in the source list, i.e. music 
>> movies podcast etc.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Denise,
>>> 
>>> Arrow navigation does now work properly in Lion and the navigation through 
>>> the Music Library has also reverted to regular "no hesitation" as in 
>>> previous versions of iTunes..  In the Software Update notes pertaining to 
>>> iTunes, it mentions that it is now fully compatible to Lion which leads me 
>>> to believe that these fixes may not specifically improve performance in 
>>> Snow Leopard.  I'll locate a Snow Leopard machine tomorrow and try to 
>>> confirm this.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> On 2011-08-23, at 5:38 PM, Denise Avant wrote:
>>> 
 hi all,
 i notice some improvement with the newest version of itunes. but i still 
 cannot arrow up and down in my songs list, though i am set to list view. i 
 am running snow leopard.
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Re: Trouble with password field

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Bill!
I've found on some of my secure text fields that I have to do a mouse click 
then I get the normal clicking!
I do not know if this was one of the options you tried!
And just in case! :]
move mouse [if needed] vo+command+f5 then mouse click vo+shift+space!
Sorry if you've already tried it!
Colin

On 25 Aug 2011, at 21:35, Bill Holton wrote:

> Hi.
> I am trying to set up bootcamp drivers to copy onto a disk.  The Admin
> request dialog comes up, I can enter my account name, but no matter how I
> move to the password field nothing types in.  No clicking sound, no visible
> *'s or anything, and if I type it in and press return the dialog closes as
> failed.  
> I have tried swiping to the field, tabbing to the field, moving to the field
> and interacting, every way, it would seem, but the correct way.
> Any help appreciated.
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Re: itunes issue

[Teresa Cochran]

If you move to the music table with VO-right-arrow, you will have to interact 
with it first and then arrow through it. If you have VO set to interact when 
using tab key, you can simply tab over and not have to interact. You can set 
this VO setting in VO preferences (VO-f8), navigation.

HTH,
Teresa
On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Denise Avant wrote:

> hi,
> when i move to the table, it says music table. then when i arrow down, i get 
> no response from vo. i don't see any other obvious issues.
> 
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> I checked this out on a SL machine today and iTunes behaves properly for me. 
>>  I do not have Quicknav on.  I can arrow without VO keys while Interacting 
>> with or simply focusing on the Songs table.  Have you tried restarting your 
>> computer to see if there are any other factors that could be affecting 
>> iTunes for you?
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> On 2011-08-24, at 3:04 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>> 
>>> hi,
>>> thanks. i do not have quick nav turned on. i just noticed that when i 
>>> arrowed up and down in my songs list, vo would not speak automatically 
>>> unless i interact with the table.
>>> it speaks fine when i arrow up and down in the source list, i.e. music 
>>> movies podcast etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Denise,
 
 Arrow navigation does now work properly in Lion and the navigation through 
 the Music Library has also reverted to regular "no hesitation" as in 
 previous versions of iTunes..  In the Software Update notes pertaining to 
 iTunes, it mentions that it is now fully compatible to Lion which leads me 
 to believe that these fixes may not specifically improve performance in 
 Snow Leopard.  I'll locate a Snow Leopard machine tomorrow and try to 
 confirm this.
 
 Later…
 
 On 2011-08-23, at 5:38 PM, Denise Avant wrote:
 
> hi all,
> i notice some improvement with the newest version of itunes. but i still 
> cannot arrow up and down in my songs list, though i am set to list view. 
> i am running snow leopard.
> i am wondering if others have found this to be the case? thanks.
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Re: device manager present on the mac?

[Mike Arrigo]

Yes, open your uti9lities folder and then open system information, there should 
be a usb section detailing your usb devices.
On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> When I connect a USB scanner, even before having installed its drivers, is 
> there a way to verify that the mac sees a USB device? Is there sort of a 
> device manager present in os10? I suppose there will be. In windows, one can 
> see which devices are detected, but have no drivers installed, or devices 
> having problems with their driver. Where do I go for this on the mac? Is it 
> easy to uninstall a driver if you no longer need a device for which you once 
> installed drivers? 
> 
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Quick list policy change

[Cara Quinn]

Hello All;

-Just a quick note to let you know that I've decided to moderate these two 
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are. :) Thank you Mark!

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Re: Quick list policy change

[Alex Hall]

My only suggestion is what was discussed a few days ago: allow anyone
to sign up for this list instead of requiring them to be approved on
an individual basis.

On 8/25/11, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> Hello All;
>
> -Just a quick note to let you know that I've decided to moderate these two
> groups on my own once again.
>
> Let me just take a second here to thank Mark for his help in the interim.
> Mark had graciously offered his assistance for as long as I needed it and so
> here we are. :) Thank you Mark!
>
> So as of now, I'm the sole list moderator. So please do feel free to write
> me with any issues you may have.
>
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com
>
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> wherever you may be!
>
> CQ out! :)
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Re: itunes issue

[Tim Kilburn]

When I do the same, Music Table is announced then VO reads the entire row of 
items.  If I interact with the table, then I can go down each column reading 
only that columns items.

I'm not sure what could be happening with yours other than a VO settings or 
focus sort of thing.  If you have not changed your VO settings in any way, then 
I'm not sure what to do as I'm unable to duplicate the issue.  I'm assuming 
that you've done all the Software Updates since you've got the iTunes 10.4.1.

Sorry.

On 2011-08-24, at 10:27 PM, Denise Avant wrote:

> hi,
> when i move to the table, it says music table. then when i arrow down, i get 
> no response from vo. i don't see any other obvious issues.
> 
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi Denise,
>> 
>> I checked this out on a SL machine today and iTunes behaves properly for me. 
>>  I do not have Quicknav on.  I can arrow without VO keys while Interacting 
>> with or simply focusing on the Songs table.  Have you tried restarting your 
>> computer to see if there are any other factors that could be affecting 
>> iTunes for you?
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> On 2011-08-24, at 3:04 AM, Denise Avant wrote:
>> 
>>> hi,
>>> thanks. i do not have quick nav turned on. i just noticed that when i 
>>> arrowed up and down in my songs list, vo would not speak automatically 
>>> unless i interact with the table.
>>> it speaks fine when i arrow up and down in the source list, i.e. music 
>>> movies podcast etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Denise,
 
 Arrow navigation does now work properly in Lion and the navigation through 
 the Music Library has also reverted to regular "no hesitation" as in 
 previous versions of iTunes..  In the Software Update notes pertaining to 
 iTunes, it mentions that it is now fully compatible to Lion which leads me 
 to believe that these fixes may not specifically improve performance in 
 Snow Leopard.  I'll locate a Snow Leopard machine tomorrow and try to 
 confirm this.
 
 Later…
 
 On 2011-08-23, at 5:38 PM, Denise Avant wrote:
 
> hi all,
> i notice some improvement with the newest version of itunes. but i still 
> cannot arrow up and down in my songs list, though i am set to list view. 
> i am running snow leopard.
> i am wondering if others have found this to be the case? thanks.
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guitar amp software?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all
I am wondering if any software exists for the mac to let me plug 
my guitar into the mac (via a DI box or basic amp) and apply 
effects? Of course, whatever app this is should be accessible.  
Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.


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Re: guitar amp software?

[Taylor Scott]

Yeah, pretty sure you could do this with Garageband.
I'm still new to all this, so can't give details other than it is
doable. Maybe hit up youtube?

On 8/25/11, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Hi all
> I am wondering if any software exists for the mac to let me plug
> my guitar into the mac (via a DI box or basic amp) and apply
> effects? Of course, whatever app this is should be accessible.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
>
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RE: Definitive guide to installing another OS on a new Mac

[Frank Ventura]

Thank you very much I found it. Doesn't look like it is update for Lion
yet. I assume the portion where Windows is installed on the bootcamp
partition requires sighted assistance.
Tia
Frank

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Subject: RE: Definitive guide to installing another OS on a new Mac

Google this and it should lead you there
manuals.info.apple.com/en/boot_camp_install-setup.pdf


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Subject: Definitive guide to installing another OS on a new Mac

Hello all, I have seen bits and pieces of this here several times but is
there a good complete step by step guide to setting up a second
operating system under boot camp, for example say something like Windows
7? Hopefully something that explains setting up the disk partition and
installing the proper drivers etc. Any help would greatly be
appreciated.
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Re: guitar amp software?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks. It looks like you can record and apply effects later, but I'm
still not sure about live effects. That is, I'm not sure if you can
apply effects as you play or only to recordings.

On 8/25/11, Taylor Scott  wrote:
> Yeah, pretty sure you could do this with Garageband.
> I'm still new to all this, so can't give details other than it is
> doable. Maybe hit up youtube?
>
> On 8/25/11, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> Hi all
>> I am wondering if any software exists for the mac to let me plug
>> my guitar into the mac (via a DI box or basic amp) and apply
>> effects? Of course, whatever app this is should be accessible.
>> Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
>>
>> Have a great day,
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Re: guitar amp software?

[Taylor Scott]

Hmm, I'm fairly sure you can only apply affects to a recording in Garageband...


On 8/25/11, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Thanks. It looks like you can record and apply effects later, but I'm
> still not sure about live effects. That is, I'm not sure if you can
> apply effects as you play or only to recordings.
>
> On 8/25/11, Taylor Scott  wrote:
>> Yeah, pretty sure you could do this with Garageband.
>> I'm still new to all this, so can't give details other than it is
>> doable. Maybe hit up youtube?
>>
>> On 8/25/11, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> I am wondering if any software exists for the mac to let me plug
>>> my guitar into the mac (via a DI box or basic amp) and apply
>>> effects? Of course, whatever app this is should be accessible.
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Have a great day,
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Re: Mail Certificate Varification

[Chris Blouch]

Note that your mail came through as being from April 30 2012 so maybe it 
thinks the cert for gmail has expired when it hasn't. Might want to 
check your clock setting. Even if your mac shuts down with the power run 
out the clock shouldn't reset. There is a separate battery for this and 
it sounds like yours isn't working. I just let mine run out of battery 
last night and it powered back up with everything intact. How old is 
your laptop? I think the batteries usually last about 5 years, roughly 
the lifetime of the machine.


CB

On 4/30/12 1:47 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hi. I fell asleep with my Mac turned on without the charger and I guess the 
battery died completely. I had to set the time and date and all that fun stuff. 
But now when I use mail, it's saying that my certificate for pop.gmail.com has 
expired and that it could be a fake posing as pop.gmail.com. How do I tell it 
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Re: guitar amp software?

[Chris Blouch]

Apple's video on using Garage band with guitar effects seems to imply 
it's all live. They even mention using an external foot pedal to change 
the sound setup while playing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNZrYzM1WQ

CB

On 8/25/11 10:33 PM, Taylor Scott wrote:

Hmm, I'm fairly sure you can only apply affects to a recording in Garageband...


On 8/25/11, Alex Hall  wrote:

Thanks. It looks like you can record and apply effects later, but I'm
still not sure about live effects. That is, I'm not sure if you can
apply effects as you play or only to recordings.

On 8/25/11, Taylor Scott  wrote:

Yeah, pretty sure you could do this with Garageband.
I'm still new to all this, so can't give details other than it is
doable. Maybe hit up youtube?

On 8/25/11, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all
I am wondering if any software exists for the mac to let me plug
my guitar into the mac (via a DI box or basic amp) and apply
effects? Of course, whatever app this is should be accessible.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.

Have a great day,
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Re: guitar amp software?

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I, too, want an app that will let me play the live effects, even if I'm just 
jamming and not recording.  Plug my Strat into the line-in, select the effect, 
play it.  The virtue of this is that there would presumably be a LOT of effects 
to play with.  Plus, it'd look real cool at parties. :)


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guitar amp software?

[Matthew J]

hi all,

firstly, using software effects would cause slight delays to the playing 
as the effect is applied, so you'd have timing issues. The talk of 
changing the effect with a peddle is external, there are effects peddles 
you can get which do effects. I recommend that root, the setup would be 
guitar to peddle, peddle to mac.


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Re: guitar amp software?

[Alex Hall]

The movie from Chris does make it look like it is live. I wonder if
you really need the cable they talk about, though; I heard on forums
that it costs $25 or so, which is a lot for a cable. Besides which,
are all these effects and settings accessible?

On 8/25/11, Mark BurningHawk Baxter  wrote:
> I, too, want an app that will let me play the live effects, even if I'm just
> jamming and not recording.  Plug my Strat into the line-in, select the
> effect, play it.  The virtue of this is that there would presumably be a LOT
> of effects to play with.  Plus, it'd look real cool at parties. :)
>
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Re: advanced documentation for voice over?

[Johnny Angel!]

Hi Ezzie,

Would you please be so kind as to also send me this attachment?

Thanks!

Johnny Chilelli
On Aug 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, ezzie bueno wrote:

> Hi! There's a "VoiceOver: Getting Started book" that will teach you more 
> about VO.  I can send it to you as an attachment if you're interested.
> 
> Ezzie
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kliph&Sharrie"  To:  Date sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:56:29 -0500
> Subject: advanced documentation for voice over?
> 
> Okay, so I've had my mac for almost 3 months.  And have learned a lot of the
> basics on my own, and by asking questions.  Where can I get some advanced
> documentation on how to use voice over.  I'm sure there are some things I
> don't know, and need to know.  So where have all you learned the things you
> know?  Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kliphton SR
> 
> (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
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Re: Office VS IWorks

[David Tanner]

You will not be able to access MicroSoft Office with VoiceOver.  You can 
access iWork.




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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: Office VS IWorks


Hi, maybe this has already been pointed out but there is also openoffice 
for the mac that is accessible. I personally prefer Iwork but thats a 
personal choice.

Greetings, Anouk,
Op 24-8-2011 2:52, Kristyn Leigh schreef:

Office for Mac is not accessible with VoiceOver.

On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:


Hi all,

as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processer mac book pro from my
university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to
provide them with a list of programs that i want to be loaded, i'm
wondering what sort of program that is a must for a university student
to have?

i've request to have ABBY Reader, and they have perchase that for me,
however, , i'm wondering with the choice between office and IWork,
which will be better for my needs? i do alot of word processing tasks,
also, presentation tasks as i'm also a trainer and assessor by
occupation. what is the main different between office and iwork beside
one from MS , and one from Apple?

any other program suggestion will be also much appreciated.

thanks

cheers

Joanne (Australia)

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Re: Quick list policy change

[Cara Quinn]

Hello Alex, I'm posting this on-list so that everyone will understand why this 
policy is enacted.

Put simply, people need to be approved to join this list to eliminate spam. 
Now, from time to time as some have seen here, we'll occasionally get a spam 
message or two. But the amount we've seen in the time this list has been in 
operation on Google Groups is really, really good. So unfortunately, (or 
fortunately) the list sign-up policy / procedure needs to stay as it is.

thanks for your interest though and let me just encourage others to write 
privately with any other concerns / questions etc.

Have a great night All, and talk with you soon!…

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On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

My only suggestion is what was discussed a few days ago: allow anyone
to sign up for this list instead of requiring them to be approved on
an individual basis.

On 8/25/11, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> Hello All;
> 
> -Just a quick note to let you know that I've decided to moderate these two
> groups on my own once again.
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> Let me just take a second here to thank Mark for his help in the interim.
> Mark had graciously offered his assistance for as long as I needed it and so
> here we are. :) Thank you Mark!
> 
> So as of now, I'm the sole list moderator. So please do feel free to write
> me with any issues you may have.
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> caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com
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Re: Office VS IWorks

[Joanne Chua]

hi all,

thanks very much for the support  so far.

i got the call from my university today. i thought they asking me to
go and pick up my new MBP however, as the result, they rang to say
that they can't provide me with any kind of Mac product. not MBP, or
MBA, or Ipad even. the reason behind that is, there's no technical
support on campus for any Apple products, and well, with windows or
Jaws or MSOffice, the IT Arguement is they already have onside licence
for it, so, the only problem they need to worry about is getting an
empty laptop and then they can transfer those licence to it.

its a sad news, but thats the best they can do for now.

Since i'm on the committee meeting for our disability committee on
campus, i'm going to suggest that, if student with disability in
future who having deficulty and needing a laptop or such for their
study purposes, the university should able to get them an IPad. i
mean, realisticly, is the most ephysion with cost effectiveness
adductive technology in place, before any laptops or notebooks.

ones again, thanks for all the support regarding my enquiry with
office or iwork. i'll of course, post more problems sooner or later to
the list, as  i have an imac for my home use.

cheers

Joanne (Australia)

On 26/08/2011, David Tanner  wrote:
> You will not be able to access MicroSoft Office with VoiceOver.  You can
> access iWork.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "anouk radix" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Office VS IWorks
>
>
>> Hi, maybe this has already been pointed out but there is also openoffice
>> for the mac that is accessible. I personally prefer Iwork but thats a
>> personal choice.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> Op 24-8-2011 2:52, Kristyn Leigh schreef:
>>> Office for Mac is not accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 as i'm getting a new 13inch 2.7 processer mac book pro from my
 university, and i'm fairly new with Mac, and they are requesting me to
 provide them with a list of programs that i want to be loaded, i'm
 wondering what sort of program that is a must for a university student
 to have?

 i've request to have ABBY Reader, and they have perchase that for me,
 however, , i'm wondering with the choice between office and IWork,
 which will be better for my needs? i do alot of word processing tasks,
 also, presentation tasks as i'm also a trainer and assessor by
 occupation. what is the main different between office and iwork beside
 one from MS , and one from Apple?

 any other program suggestion will be also much appreciated.

 thanks

 cheers

 Joanne (Australia)

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