Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Busboom
Hello everyone,

Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the 
latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac?  I am just a bit 
confused.  Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or is 
ChromeVox an extension for Chrome?

Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install?  I am not really into beta 
testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the latest 
stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely.

Thanks to all,

Mike

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Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread André Nuno Soares
Hello Michael,

Just go to:
http://www.google.com/chrome

If you go there from your Mac, the site will automatically present the link for 
downloading the latest Mac version.

The download is a dmg file, so you install it the usual way, by copying the 
.app file inside it to your Applications folder.

Note that Chrome includes a process to update your installed version, so after 
installing it for the first time, the browser should install new versions 
automatically.


HTH,
André

On 11/01/2012, at 08:05, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the 
 latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac?  I am just a bit 
 confused.  Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or is 
 ChromeVox an extension for Chrome?
 
 Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install?  I am not really into beta 
 testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the latest 
 stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely.
 
 Thanks to all,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Busboom
Thank you very much, André, for your quick response.  My question, however, is 
whether this version will automatically have accessibility built into it or 
whether I need to install something else.  Does Chrome automatically detect 
that I am using VoiceOver?  From what you wrote, I may be incorrectly surmising 
that this is the regular version of Chrome which, if I understand correctly, 
still needs an accessibility plug-in.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

On 11,Jan,2012, at 10:02 AM, André Nuno Soares wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 Just go to:
 http://www.google.com/chrome
 
 If you go there from your Mac, the site will automatically present the link 
 for downloading the latest Mac version.
 
 The download is a dmg file, so you install it the usual way, by copying the 
 .app file inside it to your Applications folder.
 
 Note that Chrome includes a process to update your installed version, so 
 after installing it for the first time, the browser should install new 
 versions automatically.
 
 
 HTH,
 André
 
 On 11/01/2012, at 08:05, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the 
 latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac?  I am just a bit 
 confused.  Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or is 
 ChromeVox an extension for Chrome?
 
 Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install?  I am not really into beta 
 testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the latest 
 stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely.
 
 Thanks to all,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

nothing else is needed to use chrome.  You can use it with voiceover.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:52 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Thank you very much, André, for your quick response.  My question, however, 
 is whether this version will automatically have accessibility built into it 
 or whether I need to install something else.  Does Chrome automatically 
 detect that I am using VoiceOver?  From what you wrote, I may be incorrectly 
 surmising that this is the regular version of Chrome which, if I understand 
 correctly, still needs an accessibility plug-in.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Mike
 
 On 11,Jan,2012, at 10:02 AM, André Nuno Soares wrote:
 
 Hello Michael,
 
 Just go to:
 http://www.google.com/chrome
 
 If you go there from your Mac, the site will automatically present the link 
 for downloading the latest Mac version.
 
 The download is a dmg file, so you install it the usual way, by copying the 
 .app file inside it to your Applications folder.
 
 Note that Chrome includes a process to update your installed version, so 
 after installing it for the first time, the browser should install new 
 versions automatically.
 
 
 HTH,
 André
 
 On 11/01/2012, at 08:05, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the 
 latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac?  I am just a bit 
 confused.  Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or 
 is ChromeVox an extension for Chrome?
 
 Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install?  I am not really into 
 beta testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the 
 latest stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely.
 
 Thanks to all,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Effectively navigating through edit fields on iPhone with Bluetooth keyboards

2012-01-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Michael,

Remember that you can use quick nav with your bluetooth keyboard.  this is what 
I do since I'm using a mini bluetooth keyboard.  Once quick nav is enabled, you 
can use your arrow keys to work the rotor and activate items.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hello Colin,
 
 Thank you very much for your list of keyboard commands.  Unfortunately, my 
 small Bluetooth keyboard apparently doesn't have a dedicated option key.  If 
 I want to invoke the option key, I have to switch my keyboard to German and 
 then use a modifier key with the letter 'y.' On a German keyboard, the 'y' is 
 where the 'z' is on a U.S. keyboard.  When I switch my keyboard to English, I 
 can't even find the Option Key.
 
 Although it is almost impossible to simultaneously press the Command Option 
 combination on my keyboard, I did succeed once but got no response from 
 VoiceOver's Keyboard Help that the key combination I wanted had been properly 
 entered.  I may need to go to an Apple store and look at other options.  
 Strange, though, since this particular Bluetooth keyboard was designed 
 specifically for the iPhone.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Mike
  
 
 
 On 10,Jan,2012, at 10:18 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
 
 Hi Michael!
 hth Colin
 
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
 General navigation
 
 Keys
 Action
 VO + left or right
 Select previous or next item
 VO + up or down
 Preforms or move to the selected rotor option
 VO + Space
 Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
 VO + H
 Go to home screen
 VO + H 2 times
 Open/close multitask pane
 Escape
 Go back, cancel, close pop-up
 Cmd + Tab
 Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous
 VO + A
 Read all from first object in selected area
 VO + B
 Read all from selected item
 VO + M
 Move to status bar
 VO + I
 Open Item Chooser for current area
 VO + F
 Search and go to match with Enter
 VO + G
 Next search match, hold Shift for previous
 Handling VoiceOver
 
 Keys
 Action
 Control
 Pause/resume speech
 VO + S
 Toggle speech off/on
 VO + Shift + S
 Toggle Screen Curtain on/off
 VO + Cmd + up or down
 Adjust the selected speech rotor option
 VO + Cmd + left or right
 Change the speech rotor setting
 VO + /
 Add label to selected item
 VO + K
 Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit
 Quick Nav Commands
 
 Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left + right
 
 Keys
 Action
 up + down
 Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
 left or right
 Selects the previous or next item
 up or down
 Preforms or move to the selected rotor option
 up + left or right
 Change to next or previous rotor setting
 Option + left or right
 Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page
 Option + up or down
 Move/scroll up or down the screen/page
 Control + up or down
 Select the first or last item in the area
 Control + left or right
 Go to next or previous container/area
 Safari Web Shortcuts
 
 Hold Shift for previous
 
 Keys
 Action
 H
 Next heading
 1 to 6
 Next respective heading level 1–6
 L
 Next link
 S
 Next text element
 W
 Next landmark
 R
 Next text field
 X
 Next list
 T
 Next table
 M
 Next element of same type
 I
 Next image
 B
 Next button
 C
 Next form element
 Text Field Commands
 
 You must have Quick Nav off to use these commands.
 
 When moving cursor, hold Shift to select/deselect text
 
 Keys
 Action
 left or right
 Move cursor by character
 up or down
 Move cursor by row
 Option+ left or right
 Move cursor by word
 Control or Cmd + left or right
 Move cursor by phrase
 Cmd + A
 Select all
 Cmd + C
 Copy selection
 Cmd + X
 Cut selection
 Cmd + V
 Paste
 Cmd + Z
 Undo. Note: you can also shake the device
 Cmd + Shift + Z
 Redo. Note: you can also shake the device
 Eject
 Show/hide screen keyboard
 Other Keyboard Action
 
 Keys
 Action
 VO + -
 Preforms special action
 Cmd + Space
 Change language keyboard layout
 F1
 Decrease screen brightness
 F2
 Increase screen brightness
 F7
 Previous song
 F8
 Pause/resume song
 F9
 Next song
 F10
 Mute sound
 F11
 Decrease volume
 F12
 Increase volume
 
 
 On 10 Jan 2012, at 20:21, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 I have recently acquired a Bluetooth keyboard with a tiny docking station 
 to use with my iPhone 4 running IOS5.
 
 While it is easy enough to enter text into an edit field, via the Bluetooth 
 keyboard, I have been unable to cursor or arrow through a text that I am 
 creating in order to insert or delete characters.  Thus far, I have 
 accomplished this task by moving the insertion point using the VoiceOver 
 commands on the touch screen.  I am wondering if there is a way to move 
 through an edit field, character-by-character using the right and left 
 arrow keys on the small Bluetooth keyboard.  Fortunately, the backspace key 
 is working.  Besides working with edit fields, are there other ways to 
 invoke most VO commands using the keyboard instead of the VO gestures?
 
 Thank you all very 

Re: Effectively navigating through edit fields on iPhone with Bluetooth keyboards

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Busboom
Thank you very much, Ricardo, it worked! This does make life easier, though I 
still wish that I could invoke commands such as Interact with commands.

Nevertheless, your Quick Nav tip was perfect and again, thanks!

Best regards,

Mike

On 11,Jan,2012, at 11:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi Michael,
 
 Remember that you can use quick nav with your bluetooth keyboard.  this is 
 what I do since I'm using a mini bluetooth keyboard.  Once quick nav is 
 enabled, you can use your arrow keys to work the rotor and activate items.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Hello Colin,
 
 Thank you very much for your list of keyboard commands.  Unfortunately, my 
 small Bluetooth keyboard apparently doesn't have a dedicated option key.  If 
 I want to invoke the option key, I have to switch my keyboard to German and 
 then use a modifier key with the letter 'y.' On a German keyboard, the 'y' 
 is where the 'z' is on a U.S. keyboard.  When I switch my keyboard to 
 English, I can't even find the Option Key.
 
 Although it is almost impossible to simultaneously press the Command Option 
 combination on my keyboard, I did succeed once but got no response from 
 VoiceOver's Keyboard Help that the key combination I wanted had been 
 properly entered.  I may need to go to an Apple store and look at other 
 options.  Strange, though, since this particular Bluetooth keyboard was 
 designed specifically for the iPhone.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 On 10,Jan,2012, at 10:18 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
 
 Hi Michael!
 hth Colin
 
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
 General navigation
 
 Keys
 Action
 VO + left or right
 Select previous or next item
 VO + up or down
 Preforms or move to the selected rotor option
 VO + Space
 Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
 VO + H
 Go to home screen
 VO + H 2 times
 Open/close multitask pane
 Escape
 Go back, cancel, close pop-up
 Cmd + Tab
 Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous
 VO + A
 Read all from first object in selected area
 VO + B
 Read all from selected item
 VO + M
 Move to status bar
 VO + I
 Open Item Chooser for current area
 VO + F
 Search and go to match with Enter
 VO + G
 Next search match, hold Shift for previous
 Handling VoiceOver
 
 Keys
 Action
 Control
 Pause/resume speech
 VO + S
 Toggle speech off/on
 VO + Shift + S
 Toggle Screen Curtain on/off
 VO + Cmd + up or down
 Adjust the selected speech rotor option
 VO + Cmd + left or right
 Change the speech rotor setting
 VO + /
 Add label to selected item
 VO + K
 Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit
 Quick Nav Commands
 
 Turn on Quick Nav to use these commands by pressing left + right
 
 Keys
 Action
 up + down
 Activate the selected item. (open app, press button)
 left or right
 Selects the previous or next item
 up or down
 Preforms or move to the selected rotor option
 up + left or right
 Change to next or previous rotor setting
 Option + left or right
 Move to next or previous horizontal screen/page
 Option + up or down
 Move/scroll up or down the screen/page
 Control + up or down
 Select the first or last item in the area
 Control + left or right
 Go to next or previous container/area
 Safari Web Shortcuts
 
 Hold Shift for previous
 
 Keys
 Action
 H
 Next heading
 1 to 6
 Next respective heading level 1–6
 L
 Next link
 S
 Next text element
 W
 Next landmark
 R
 Next text field
 X
 Next list
 T
 Next table
 M
 Next element of same type
 I
 Next image
 B
 Next button
 C
 Next form element
 Text Field Commands
 
 You must have Quick Nav off to use these commands.
 
 When moving cursor, hold Shift to select/deselect text
 
 Keys
 Action
 left or right
 Move cursor by character
 up or down
 Move cursor by row
 Option+ left or right
 Move cursor by word
 Control or Cmd + left or right
 Move cursor by phrase
 Cmd + A
 Select all
 Cmd + C
 Copy selection
 Cmd + X
 Cut selection
 Cmd + V
 Paste
 Cmd + Z
 Undo. Note: you can also shake the device
 Cmd + Shift + Z
 Redo. Note: you can also shake the device
 Eject
 Show/hide screen keyboard
 Other Keyboard Action
 
 Keys
 Action
 VO + -
 Preforms special action
 Cmd + Space
 Change language keyboard layout
 F1
 Decrease screen brightness
 F2
 Increase screen brightness
 F7
 Previous song
 F8
 Pause/resume song
 F9
 Next song
 F10
 Mute sound
 F11
 Decrease volume
 F12
 Increase volume
 
 
 On 10 Jan 2012, at 20:21, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 I have recently acquired a Bluetooth keyboard with a tiny docking station 
 to use with my iPhone 4 running IOS5.
 
 While it is easy enough to enter text into an edit field, via the 
 Bluetooth keyboard, I have been unable to cursor or arrow through a text 
 that I am creating in order to insert or delete characters.  Thus far, I 
 have accomplished this task by moving the insertion point using the 
 VoiceOver commands on the touch screen.  I am wondering if there is a way 
 to move through an edit 

Re: Blackboard and Voice-over?

2012-01-11 Thread Shanna Stichler
Thanks so much, Mike! This information is most helpful!

Shanna
On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:56 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 Hello Shanna,
 
 Although many portions of the Blackboard platform can be navigated with VO 
 through Safari, there is one area that is difficult and, as far as I am 
 concerned, inadequately accessible.
 
 I am referring to the discussion areas where students interact with one 
 another and their teachers.  I believe that Blackboard calls this area their 
 Bulletin Board area.  While I am not saying that it is impossible to use the 
 Bulletin Board, I am stating that it is difficult.  I have suspended my 
 graduate studies until Blackboard has properly addressed this issue.  It was 
 possible for me to look at class syllabi and download class lectures, 
 however.  My university also uses Blackboard version 9.1.
 
   Although I cannot confirm this, I have heard that it is possible to fully 
 access the Bulletin Board with Google's Chrome browser, but I have been 
 unable to confirm this since I don't know how to go about installing Chrome 
 on my Mac.
 
 Kindest regards,
 
 Mike
 
 On 11,Jan,2012, at 6:03 AM, Shanna Stichler wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm wondering if anyone has attempted using Blackboard with VO, and whether 
 or not it worked for you. It seems semi-accessible, so I thought it would be 
 good to check with this list. I'm using Blackboard version 9.1, I believe. 
 If anyone can give me some tips for working within this site, I'd greatly 
 apreciate it.
 
 Thanks so much for all your help.
 
 Shanna
 
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Re: to do list apps

2012-01-11 Thread Becky Knaub
Hi Enrah,
Thak you so much for the suggestion, I read about the app you sent me and just 
finished installing it.
Thanks again.

Becky
On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Emrah wrote:

 Becky,
 
 I went hunting on the App Store to see if something would fit the description 
 of what you-re looking for. I found an app that claims to have recently 
 improved its VoiceOver support and I purchased it to give it a try.
 It's only $0.99, so if you want to have a look, here is the link:
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/to-do-lists/id416993121?mt=12
 
 This is a Mac OS app. 
 
 Good luck for your assignments!
 Cheers,
 E
 On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:58 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I am taking 5 graduate level courses this semester and all of them require a 
 ton of work. SO does anyone have any suggestions for an accessible app that 
 would function like a to do list but for assignments that I could check off 
 after they are done? I guess what I am looking for is kind of like a 
 homework planner. I just want to make sure I don't miss out on doing all my 
 assignments, I already put their due dates in my calendar which was the 
 first time I used Ical. it was interesting experience but I figured it out.
 
 Becky and C
 
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Blackboard Accessible

2012-01-11 Thread Becky Knaub
Hi Shanna,
I use black board with VoiceOver, I know it was just updated for my university 
while we were on break. I find VO works pretty well with it, I have used it 
with VO for 2 semesters soon to be three when this semester is over and Jaws fr 
the other 4, I would say both work alright with it. I can and do participate on 
the discussion board and can access all of the links on my professor's pages.  
I am using Safari for BlackBoard tough rather then Google Chrome which I just 
installed to see if it would work better than Safari. Use the track pad or VO 
keys with BB not quick nab because sometimes they don't work and try 
interacting with the content, this will allow VO to read and work with the 
discussion Board. HTH

Becky and C

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tips on Navigating Chrome with VO

2012-01-11 Thread Becky Knaub
Hi,
I just downloaded and installed chrome to give it a try. I tried to use 
Blackboard on it and it wouldn't work at all, even when I tried interacting 
with Blackboard. I was hoping it would work because Safari does work but often 
does the Safari Busy thing which is annoying and time consuming. If anyone 
one has some tips for using chrome that would be great. Thanks.

Becky and C

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mars edit

2012-01-11 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi folks,
Just trying out mars edit, and it seems very nice. Just curious, how much does 
this cost?
Cheers.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

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Re: to do list apps

2012-01-11 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Emrah: 
I second what Becky wrote. I \downloaded List Recorder, and I'll any program 
that ws this well with VoiceOver 5 stars. I've had a little time to mess with 
it, but I immediately upgraded it to the full version so that I could record as 
much as I wanted. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Hi Enrah,
 Thak you so much for the suggestion, I read about the app you sent me and 
 just finished installing it.
 Thanks again.
 
 Becky
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Emrah wrote:
 
 Becky,
 
 I went hunting on the App Store to see if something would fit the 
 description of what you-re looking for. I found an app that claims to have 
 recently improved its VoiceOver support and I purchased it to give it a try.
 It's only $0.99, so if you want to have a look, here is the link:
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/to-do-lists/id416993121?mt=12
 
 This is a Mac OS app. 
 
 Good luck for your assignments!
 Cheers,
 E
 On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:58 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I am taking 5 graduate level courses this semester and all of them require 
 a ton of work. SO does anyone have any suggestions for an accessible app 
 that would function like a to do list but for assignments that I could 
 check off after they are done? I guess what I am looking for is kind of 
 like a homework planner. I just want to make sure I don't miss out on doing 
 all my assignments, I already put their due dates in my calendar which was 
 the first time I used Ical. it was interesting experience but I figured it 
 out.
 
 Becky and C
 
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Re: Clearwire internet? Is it any good?

2012-01-11 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

Inaccessible in what way?  Could you explane better please.

Matthew


On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 I found Clear's interfaces inaccessable.
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10/01/2012, at 10:51, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 
Hi All and including mac users.   I am going to be switching over from 
 timeworner to clearwire and was wondering if anyone using clearwire  knows 
 how it is working and how easy is it to use?  I will have 4g and my 
 understanding  it is wify over 4g.  I am just trying to get an idea from 
 anyone here who is blind users inparticular mac users are doing with it.  
 When they coome out to hook it up are they going to have to install any 
 software or do anything on my machine appart from testing the connection?  
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Clearwire internet? Is it any good?

2012-01-11 Thread matthew Dyer
Useless in whart way.  Sorry the kind of comment really doesn't help 
me.  It is really opsion I have at this point since I am going to dish network 
in a few weeks.  It was eather that or att which would not work 
since I can not use do to the fact that I do not have a phone jack to connect 
to.

Matthew


On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Clearwire is completely useless.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe
 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 2:16 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re:  Clearwire internet? Is it any good?
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 I found Clear's interfaces inaccessable.
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10/01/2012, at 10:51, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 
Hi All and including mac users.   I am going to be switching over from
 timeworner to clearwire and was wondering if anyone using clearwire  knows
 how it is working and how easy is it to use?  I will have 4g and my
 understanding  it is wify over 4g.  I am just trying to get an idea from
 anyone here who is blind users inparticular mac users are doing with it.
 When they coome out to hook it up are they going to have to install any
 software or do anything on my machine appart from testing the connection?
 Thanks.
 
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Re: tips on Navigating Chrome with VO

2012-01-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey Becky. When I use Chrome, I use a program called Chromevox because VO can't 
navigate some lists. You can find Chromevox in the Chrome Web Store. HTH.

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Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey Michael. I would still install Chromevox because VO can't navigate some 
lists and stuff. You can download it from the Chrome Web Store. HTH.

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RE: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Bill Holton
What are the advantages to running Chrome as opposed to Safari?  Thanks.
Bill


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Hey Michael. I would still install Chromevox because VO can't navigate some
lists and stuff. You can download it from the Chrome Web Store. HTH.

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Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Christine Grassman
How does one override Safari as the default browser without having to 
deliberately start the application manually? For example, if there is a link in 
e-mail, and I click on it, how can I prevent Safari from opening, and instead 
automatically have Chrome or OmniWeb do the honors?
 Thanks.
Christine
On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:02 AM, André Nuno Soares wrote:

 Hello Michael,
 
 Just go to:
 http://www.google.com/chrome
 
 If you go there from your Mac, the site will automatically present the link 
 for downloading the latest Mac version.
 
 The download is a dmg file, so you install it the usual way, by copying the 
 .app file inside it to your Applications folder.
 
 Note that Chrome includes a process to update your installed version, so 
 after installing it for the first time, the browser should install new 
 versions automatically.
 
 
 HTH,
 André
 
 On 11/01/2012, at 08:05, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the 
 latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac?  I am just a bit 
 confused.  Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or is 
 ChromeVox an extension for Chrome?
 
 Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install?  I am not really into beta 
 testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the latest 
 stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely.
 
 Thanks to all,
 
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Jumping to pages in Preview

2012-01-11 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino
Hi Everyone,

I am in the process of reading some multi-paged documents in Preview,
and can't seem to figure out how to quickly jump to a specific page. I
have tried the go to page command (command option g), and though
VoicOver announces that it has successfully jumped to the correct
page, it subsequently proceeds to jump to the top of the document once
I interact with text? Using page down seems to help somewhat, though
it seems to scroll down only in small increments rather than
corresponding to the actual pages of the document. Am I missing
something fundamental here? Thanks in advance.

Lindsay

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Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Chris Blouch
You do that in Chrome. Go to Preferences and in the Basics section 
you'll find a Default Browser section at the very end with a Make 
Google Chrome My Default Browser button.


CB

On 1/11/12 12:16 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

How does one override Safari as the default browser without having to 
deliberately start the application manually? For example, if there is a link in 
e-mail, and I click on it, how can I prevent Safari from opening, and instead 
automatically have Chrome or OmniWeb do the honors?
  Thanks.
Christine
On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:02 AM, André Nuno Soares wrote:


Hello Michael,

Just go to:
http://www.google.com/chrome

If you go there from your Mac, the site will automatically present the link for 
downloading the latest Mac version.

The download is a dmg file, so you install it the usual way, by copying the 
.app file inside it to your Applications folder.

Note that Chrome includes a process to update your installed version, so after 
installing it for the first time, the browser should install new versions 
automatically.


HTH,
André

On 11/01/2012, at 08:05, Michael Busboom wrote:


Hello everyone,

Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the 
latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac?  I am just a bit 
confused.  Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or is 
ChromeVox an extension for Chrome?

Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install?  I am not really into beta 
testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the latest 
stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely.

Thanks to all,

Mike

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embedding audio into a text document

2012-01-11 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
Is there a way to embed audio into a text document in such programs as pages or 
text edit?
Thanks,
Courtney

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Re: Jumping to pages in Preview

2012-01-11 Thread Greg Aikens
I go into the view menu and select single or double page for viewing.  That 
way, when VO wants to jump to the top, it is limited to the page or 2 that are 
displayed instead of the entire document.  

Hope this helps.

GregOn Jan 11, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am in the process of reading some multi-paged documents in Preview,
 and can't seem to figure out how to quickly jump to a specific page. I
 have tried the go to page command (command option g), and though
 VoicOver announces that it has successfully jumped to the correct
 page, it subsequently proceeds to jump to the top of the document once
 I interact with text? Using page down seems to help somewhat, though
 it seems to scroll down only in small increments rather than
 corresponding to the actual pages of the document. Am I missing
 something fundamental here? Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: A truly frustrating issue

2012-01-11 Thread Chris Blouch
I'm not Tim, but you should hear the Mac reboot and chime over and over 
as long as you hold down these keys. If it seems to be booting up 
regularly then you missed to window of opportunity. Most stuff says to 
keep holding down the parameter ram reset keys until you hear 3-5 
startup chimes.


CB

On 1/11/12 2:53 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Tim how does one know if the procedure actually worked when executing 
all of these keystrokes in a short time period?  Thanks.


Les
On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

You don't actually need the keys down when you turn on the power 
button.  Simply press the power button, quickly get your 
hands/fingers in place, then press the cmd+option+p+r as the 
startup chime sounds.


HTH

Later...

On 2012-01-10, at 5:57 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:


Hi there!
I was wondering how to do this with a Imac!
If you have to hold down the keys and then press the power button 
its a bit tricky with the power button on the back of the Imac!

Any tips?
Colin

On 11 Jan 2012, at 00:25, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

It's not VO+p+r, it is cmd-+option+p+r.  I usually use my left 
thumb across the cmd and option keys then my left index and right 
pinky for the r and p respectively.  What it does is clears out 
your memory so that any residual stuff that has, for whatever 
reason, remained clogging up your memory, is sent off into la la 
land.  This process helps quite often when Macs are behaving 
erratically.  It is also suggested by Apple as a next step in 
certain troubleshooting situations.  For example, the Restart is 
suggested first then the Clear PRAM next, when troubleshooting 
power issues.


HTH.

Later...

On 2012-01-10, at 10:12 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Never heard of that procedure before.  VO+P+r?  That would be 
interesting to do with only one control key on the left side.


Just what exactly does that sequence do when used as you describe?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:


Hello Richard,

One thing that hasn't yet been suggested is initialising the 
PRAM. To do this, shut down your machine, then hold down the 
Command, Option, letter P and letter R keys and press the Power 
key. Keep holding down the four keys until you've heard the start 
up chime at least 3 times. Then release them and the machine will 
boot as usual.


This procedure can cure all kinds of strange behaviour.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: perhaps not new but solution for safari busy… : google chrome

2012-01-11 Thread Chris Blouch
Chrome is on a roughly 6-week release cycle so it doesn't take long to 
get old. It should prompt you to update. Most people will be on the 
Stable releases whcih currently is 16.0.912.75. If you're a little 
more daring you can jump to the preview beta release (17.0.963) or the 
even more bleeding edge developer build (18.0.1003). If you want the 
very latest there is also the nightly build called Canary which is 
like the webkit nightly. All the latest new features and all the latest 
new bugs. Canary and regular Chrome can co-exist on the same machine.


CB

On 1/10/12 8:46 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

William,
Wow, it turns out that I was an 11.0.x build. Discovering that I was so far 
back encouraged me to update to the latest dev build. This version of Chrome is 
so much faster with Voiceover than I remember, and the quirks I previously saw 
seem to be gone. Thank you very much for the suggestion. I think this may 
indeed be a good alternative to Safari. now if only I could find an extension 
to change my user agent for m.facebook.com I'd be a happy camper.

On Jan 10, 2012, at 7:50 AM, William Windels wrote:


Hello Rose and others,
I have version 16.0.912.75. I have no idea at all if this is the most recent 
version but I am pretty shore that this is the development version.
But, anyway, tips, suggestions, questions... are welcome.

Kind regards,
William Windels
Op 10-jan.-2012, om 12:28 heeft Rose Morales het volgende geschreven:


Hi William,
What version of Chrome are you running? I have an older dev build here which 
still had some quirks, but things must have improved since then. Either way, 
you've encouraged me to try out the newest dev build.

Rose

On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:17 AM, William Windels wrote:


Hello,
Perhaps this is not new but I have discovered that google chrome is fully 
accessible , at the first look including the vo-navigation on websites.
I am new to that browser and I was wondering if there are 
interesting/accessible extensions or other things to know to make the browsing 
experience on the mac more fun.
Also , if there are other/better browsers for us on the mac, it would be nice 
to hear of it, perhaps a version of firefox?

Kind regards and thx for all ideas,
William

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Re: Blackboard Accessible

2012-01-11 Thread Dawn Benbow
Hi Shanna,

I saw this thread and wanted to jumpin and say that I've just started using my 
iPad and BT keyboard on black board in the discussion board area with the 3 
online classes I have this semester and haven't had much trouble with it. I 
haven't tried using my MBP with it yet though as I've always found it easiest 
just to use my iPod before. I just got an iPad for Christmas. I'm loving it so 
far.

Dawn

On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Hi Shanna,
 I use black board with VoiceOver, I know it was just updated for my 
 university while we were on break. I find VO works pretty well with it, I 
 have used it with VO for 2 semesters soon to be three when this semester is 
 over and Jaws fr the other 4, I would say both work alright with it. I can 
 and do participate on the discussion board and can access all of the links on 
 my professor's pages.  I am using Safari for BlackBoard tough rather then 
 Google Chrome which I just installed to see if it would work better than 
 Safari. Use the track pad or VO keys with BB not quick nab because sometimes 
 they don't work and try interacting with the content, this will allow VO to 
 read and work with the discussion Board. HTH
 
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Re: Jumping to pages in Preview

2012-01-11 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino
Thanks, Greg. Iwill try this. Hopefully Apple has plans to fix some of
the bugs with Preview navigation.

On 1/11/12, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 I go into the view menu and select single or double page for viewing.  That
 way, when VO wants to jump to the top, it is limited to the page or 2 that
 are displayed instead of the entire document.

 Hope this helps.

 GregOn Jan 11, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I am in the process of reading some multi-paged documents in Preview,
 and can't seem to figure out how to quickly jump to a specific page. I
 have tried the go to page command (command option g), and though
 VoicOver announces that it has successfully jumped to the correct
 page, it subsequently proceeds to jump to the top of the document once
 I interact with text? Using page down seems to help somewhat, though
 it seems to scroll down only in small increments rather than
 corresponding to the actual pages of the document. Am I missing
 something fundamental here? Thanks in advance.

 Lindsay

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Is there a read from cursor command?

2012-01-11 Thread Bill Holton
On the iPhone I can do a two finger swipe down to read from the cursor
position to the end.  Am I missing something, or can you not do that with OS
Lion?  I see commands to read entire window, visible screen and such, but if
I cursor quickly down through the useless info at the top of an email such
as salutation and such, I can't get VO to read the rest of the message from
that point on.

Bill

 

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Mac Mini pro audio weirdness

2012-01-11 Thread Chris Blouch
So I've been fighting with nasty audio distortion on the audio out on a 
Mac mini and finally solved it, but I don't understand it. Last March I 
got a Mini which I use for AV purposes connected to a Mackie 16 channel 
mixer, amps etc. The audio out from Keynote, iTunes and such was 
horribly distorted. If I used headphones it was fine. The built-in 
speaker was also fine. As it turns out the house sound system is mono 
so, like I usually do, I have a Y cable that connects the left and 
right together before plugging it into the mixer. On a whim I had pulled 
one of the cables off the Y and the audio problem went away. In other 
words, if I just have left or just right it works fine, but the old Y 
cable trick made it all distorted. What was weirder was if I ran the 
mini's left and right into separate channels on the mixer it was also 
fine. All I can figure out was that the output signals combined were too 
hot for the mixer to handle (doubtful) or there is some digital 
weirdness that the two signals together cancel or combine in a horrible 
way. The same files through the same Y cable from my wife's MacBook 
worked just fine. Soo, not sure I have a question other than theories as 
to why this happens and if you run into the same kind of trouble, don't 
Y the left and right audio outputs from a Mini together.


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Google ChromeVox

2012-01-11 Thread Becky Knaub
Hi,
WHat are they talking about when they say the ChromeVOx keys? Thanks 

Becky

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question regarding trackpad

2012-01-11 Thread Becky Knaub
Hi all,
so I was wondering why if I do a 3 finger scroll down on the trackpad VO won't 
start reading there. If you do it on the iPhone it works so I am wondering if I 
am doing something wrong or missing a step.

Thanks again.

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Re: question regarding trackpad

2012-01-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

wrong gesture.

Its a 2 finger swipe down on the Mac and the iPhone.

hth

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On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Hi all,
 so I was wondering why if I do a 3 finger scroll down on the trackpad VO 
 won't start reading there. If you do it on the iPhone it works so I am 
 wondering if I am doing something wrong or missing a step.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 Becky
 
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Re: Is there a read from cursor command?

2012-01-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

yes.  you need to interact with the text of the message and press VO A.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

 On the iPhone I can do a two finger swipe down to read from the cursor 
 position to the end.  Am I missing something, or can you not do that with OS 
 Lion?  I see commands to read entire window, visible screen and such, but if 
 I cursor quickly down through the useless info at the top of an email such as 
 salutation and such, I can’t get VO to read the rest of the message from that 
 point on.
 Bill
  
 
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Matlab

2012-01-11 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino
Hi Everyone,

I am wondering if any of you have had experience running MATLAB with
VoiceOver, and could give me any input on its accessibility. I do
research in cognitive neuroscience, and make frequent and robust use
of MATLAB and Excel. I have up to this point been using Windows for
both of these applications, but would like to utilize the Mac
environment if such is practical and efficient. Any suggestions would
be much appreciated. Thanks.

Lindsay

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Web design applications

2012-01-11 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello I am looking into making a website to promote my music. I was wondering 
if anybody knows of a Website Design application that is accessible with 
Voiceover, and is simple to use. I don't know html or any programing, but I am 
willing to figure it out and learn it aswell.
Thanks in advance.

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RE: Is there a read from cursor command?

2012-01-11 Thread Bill Holton
Thanks.
I was using the correct commands, I just wasn't interacting with the text
first.

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Hi,

yes.  you need to interact with the text of the message and press VO A.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

 On the iPhone I can do a two finger swipe down to read from the cursor
position to the end.  Am I missing something, or can you not do that with OS
Lion?  I see commands to read entire window, visible screen and such, but if
I cursor quickly down through the useless info at the top of an email such
as salutation and such, I can't get VO to read the rest of the message from
that point on.
 Bill
  
 
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Re: Matlab

2012-01-11 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Lindsay. 
I haven't used matlab, but I am using Numbers a lot. My use of Numbers improved 
immensely when I discovered headers, both for rows and columns. You can choose 
how many you want of either one, and VoiceOver will say the headers just like 
the Windows screen readers. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am wondering if any of you have had experience running MATLAB with
 VoiceOver, and could give me any input on its accessibility. I do
 research in cognitive neuroscience, and make frequent and robust use
 of MATLAB and Excel. I have up to this point been using Windows for
 both of these applications, but would like to utilize the Mac
 environment if such is practical and efficient. Any suggestions would
 be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Just Curious -- Why Is Safari Not As Problematic and Busy On the IPhone as On the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Christine Grassman
Subject says it all. Any accepted explanations or good or proven theories?
Christine

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RE: Just Curious -- Why Is Safari Not As Problematic and Busy On the IPhone as On the Mac?

2012-01-11 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

I'd assume because it's a stripped down version of Safari on the iPhone,
which requires less processing power and ram to run sufficiently. Plus you
also have to keep in mind safari on the mac could also be running lots of
extentions, which could ultimately slow down performance.


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Subject says it all. Any accepted explanations or good or proven theories?
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Recording techniques / was / Garageband and apple to the core podcast update

2012-01-11 Thread Emrah
Hello Ricardo,

If you don't mind, could you please briefly detail the software setup you use 
to record your podcasts? What is your technique to capture sounds both from 
your mic (which sounds like a Blue Snowball) and your system audio?

Thanks in advance for your info.

Cheers,
Emrah
On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Thanks for the kind words.  I had fun doing them, and I'm happy people can 
 put them to good use.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Emrah wrote:
 
 Great podcasts, Ricardo.
 
 Congrats and thanks!
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Sorry about the inconvenience.  You can now find my Apple to the core, and 
 Getting started in Garageband podcasts at
 www.appletothecore.info.  If you want to contact me privately about 
 anything related to the site or the podcasts and blogs posted, you can 
 e-mail at rica...@appletothecore.info.  Finally, if you want to follow on 
 twitter, you can find a follow button on the site along with info to 
 subscribe to the apple to the core podcast.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
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Re: Blackboard Accessible

2012-01-11 Thread ezzie bueno

Hello Shanna, Mike and Others,

I've used Blackboard successfully with another web browser called 
OmniWeb.  It has worked well.
I just downloaded Google Chrome and will try using Blackboard 
with this new browser as soon as classes start in two weeks.


HTH,
Ezzie


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Date sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:18:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Blackboard Accessible

Hi Shanna,

I saw this thread and wanted to jumpin and say that I've just 
started using my iPad and BT keyboard on black board in the 
discussion board area with the 3 online classes I have this 
semester and haven't had much trouble with it.  I haven't tried 
using my MBP with it yet though as I've always found it easiest 
just to use my iPod before.  I just got an iPad for Christmas.  
I'm loving it so far.


Dawn

On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

Hi Shanna,
I use black board with VoiceOver, I know it was just updated for 
my university while we were on break.  I find VO works pretty 
well with it, I have used it with VO for 2 semesters soon to be 
three when this semester is over and Jaws fr the other 4, I would 
say both work alright with it.  I can and do participate on the 
discussion board and can access all of the links on my 
professor's pages.  I am using Safari for BlackBoard tough rather 
then Google Chrome which I just installed to see if it would work 
better than Safari.  Use the track pad or VO keys with BB not 
quick nab because sometimes they don't work and try interacting 
with the content, this will allow VO to read and work with the 
discussion Board.  HTH


Becky and C

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re: mars edit

2012-01-11 Thread ezzie bueno

Hi,

Mars Edit cost me $39.99 in the Mac App Store.  I bought it a 
couple of weeks ago.


HTH,
Ezzie

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Date sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:46:27 -0500
Subject: mars edit

Hi folks,
Just trying out mars edit, and it seems very nice.  Just curious, 
how much does this cost?

Cheers.

Matt
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Audio Editing Software

2012-01-11 Thread Marc Sutton
Hi,
I was wondering what accessible software people use with Voiceover to edit 
audio files. Does Audacity work with VO? Or do people recommend others. I have 
used Studio Recorder on the PC side. I just need to do a little editing of .wav 
files. Thanks.
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Re: Audio Editing Software

2012-01-11 Thread Emrah
Hi Marc,

I fell in love with Amadeus Pro. This soft is very robust and unbelievably 
reliable. It is super accessible and I use it constantly for multi-track edits 
on rather complex projects.
Audio Units can be used with a generic interface accessible with VoiceOver.

Good luck!
Emrah
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 I was wondering what accessible software people use with Voiceover to edit 
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 of .wav files. Thanks.
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Re: Audio Editing Software

2012-01-11 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
For era simple project, Wave Pad for Mac works really well.


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Re: question regarding trackpad

2012-01-11 Thread Becky Knaub
Hi,
I just tried it and a two fingered swipe down reads all, where as the gesture I 
am talking about the three fingered swipe up or down allows for scrolling on 
the iPhone. SOrry I was not clear.

Thanks.


Becky and C
On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 wrong gesture.
 
 Its a 2 finger swipe down on the Mac and the iPhone.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so I was wondering why if I do a 3 finger scroll down on the trackpad VO 
 won't start reading there. If you do it on the iPhone it works so I am 
 wondering if I am doing something wrong or missing a step.
 
 Thanks again.
 
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Re: Matlab

2012-01-11 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino
Thanks, Gigi. What version of Numbers are you using?

Lindsay

On 1/11/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Lindsay.
 I haven't used matlab, but I am using Numbers a lot. My use of Numbers
 improved immensely when I discovered headers, both for rows and columns. You
 can choose how many you want of either one, and VoiceOver will say the
 headers just like the Windows screen readers.

 Regards,
 Gigi

 On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I am wondering if any of you have had experience running MATLAB with
 VoiceOver, and could give me any input on its accessibility. I do
 research in cognitive neuroscience, and make frequent and robust use
 of MATLAB and Excel. I have up to this point been using Windows for
 both of these applications, but would like to utilize the Mac
 environment if such is practical and efficient. Any suggestions would
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anybody doing video

2012-01-11 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello group; I was wondering if anyone on here is using their mac  
camera to record videos for youtube or facebook.  if so, could you  
please tell me what software you are using.  I find the older version  
of i movie that i have to betotally inaccessible.  I want to start  
posting video replies on youtube.  and eventually want to do a regular  
video post for my site. thanks in advance for any help. take care, max 


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Re: Blackboard Accessible

2012-01-11 Thread Scott Howell
Do you know which version of Blackboard is being used? THis would be good info 
to have.

Thanks,

On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Becky Knaub wrote:

 Hi Shanna,
 I use black board with VoiceOver, I know it was just updated for my 
 university while we were on break. I find VO works pretty well with it, I 
 have used it with VO for 2 semesters soon to be three when this semester is 
 over and Jaws fr the other 4, I would say both work alright with it. I can 
 and do participate on the discussion board and can access all of the links on 
 my professor's pages.  I am using Safari for BlackBoard tough rather then 
 Google Chrome which I just installed to see if it would work better than 
 Safari. Use the track pad or VO keys with BB not quick nab because sometimes 
 they don't work and try interacting with the content, this will allow VO to 
 read and work with the discussion Board. HTH
 
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Re: Matlab

2012-01-11 Thread Gigi
Hi Lindsay.
I have the latest version of Numbers. Here are some things I really like about 
it over Excel.

Let's say you want to add a column of numbers. After you have put in your 
numbers in a column, you just go to Insert and then choose function. Then the 
first one on the list is sum. You don't have to type in the formula. It's got 
averaging and multiplying in there as well, and I can't remember what else. 

Regards,
Gigi


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On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino lindsay3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Gigi. What version of Numbers are you using?
 
 Lindsay
 
 On 1/11/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Hi Lindsay.
 I haven't used matlab, but I am using Numbers a lot. My use of Numbers
 improved immensely when I discovered headers, both for rows and columns. You
 can choose how many you want of either one, and VoiceOver will say the
 headers just like the Windows screen readers.
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am wondering if any of you have had experience running MATLAB with
 VoiceOver, and could give me any input on its accessibility. I do
 research in cognitive neuroscience, and make frequent and robust use
 of MATLAB and Excel. I have up to this point been using Windows for
 both of these applications, but would like to utilize the Mac
 environment if such is practical and efficient. Any suggestions would
 be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
 Lindsay
 
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Re: Clearwire internet? Is it any good?

2012-01-11 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here
Sign up screens are silent to screen readers, as are connect buttons.

Regards,
Cheree Heppe


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On 11/01/2012, at 6:42, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Inaccessible in what way?  Could you explane better please.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 I found Clear's interfaces inaccessable.
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10/01/2012, at 10:51, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 
   Hi All and including mac users.   I am going to be switching over from 
 timeworner to clearwire and was wondering if anyone using clearwire  knows 
 how it is working and how easy is it to use?  I will have 4g and my 
 understanding  it is wify over 4g.  I am just trying to get an idea from 
 anyone here who is blind users inparticular mac users are doing with it.  
 When they coome out to hook it up are they going to have to install any 
 software or do anything on my machine appart from testing the connection?  
 Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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Re: Clearwire internet? Is it any good?

2012-01-11 Thread Esther
Hi Matthew,

I'm using Clear's mobile plan, so I don't know whether any of these comments 
are relevant to the accessibility of setting up or administering your home 
service.  Basically, this involves using a personal WiFi hotspot that picks up 
service from Clear's 4G towers.  A fully charged ClearSpot will run for about 4 
and a half hours, and support up to 5 connected devices.  These numbers will 
vary according to the number of devices you connect, and the condition of the 
signal.  (I never have as many as five devices connected simultaneously).

In order to query the connection status, assuming I have connected with Clear, 
I point my browser to:
192.168.1.1
This gives the summary status page for the connection.  For example, the 
maximum WIMAX signal is 5 bars, and the graphics will be announced as 5 png 
image (or a lower number).  The battery charge is shown eithaer as charging 
if the unit is connected to a mini-USB charger, or else is given in terms of a 
maximum of  3 stars (also announced as a number from 1 to 3 with png image 
appended).  You can get other information on the number of devices connected, 
signal status, etc.  I've never had to change the defaults (e.g. Wi-Fi channel, 
or WPA encryption scheme).

Again, I suspect this information may not be that helpful to you, because I've 
never done a home modem setup.  I basically use this as a personal WiFi access 
point, and maintain minimal data plans for the iPhone.  This provides 
connection to multiple devices at basically faster speed than I would get from 
my 3G iPhone service, and also works when I travel.  This was one of these two 
mobile device plans supported for $55/month that I split with someone else a 
year and a half ago.  I bought the ClearSpot I was using a year and a half ago 
for $29  when they had the 1-day special iSpot promotion -- normally these cost 
$99.  This has worked well for me, but my home service is TimesWarner cable 
modem.  My impression is that the quality of service of any WiFi carrier varies 
so dramatically from region to region that you can only ask other who live in 
exactly the same area of the country that you do to get an estimate of likely 
performance.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 11, 2012, at 04:48, matthew Dyer wrote:

 Useless in whart way.  Sorry the kind of comment really doesn't help 
 me.  It is really opsion I have at this point since I am going to dish 
 network in a few weeks.  It was eather that or att which would 
 not work since I can not use do to the fact that I do not have a phone jack 
 to connect to.
 
Matthew
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Clearwire is completely useless.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe
 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 2:16 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re:  Clearwire internet? Is it any good?
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 I found Clear's interfaces inaccessable.
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10/01/2012, at 10:51, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 
   Hi All and including mac users.   I am going to be switching over from
 timeworner to clearwire and was wondering if anyone using clearwire  knows
 how it is working and how easy is it to use?  I will have 4g and my
 understanding  it is wify over 4g.  I am just trying to get an idea from
 anyone here who is blind users inparticular mac users are doing with it.
 When they coome out to hook it up are they going to have to install any
 software or do anything on my machine appart from testing the connection?
 Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 

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Re: Clearwire internet? Is it any good?

2012-01-11 Thread Esther
Hi Cheree,

Since I posted about using Clear's mobile services about the same time as your 
reply post, I should mention that when I got Clear service, there was a local 
kiosk and salesperson, who walked through all the sign up and demoed use of the 
ClearSpot.  So I wasn't aware of accessibility problems with sign up screens.  
This was something they were doing for all customers who showed up at their 
offices.

Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 11, 2012, at 16:44, Cheree Heppe wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here
 Sign up screens are silent to screen readers, as are connect buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11/01/2012, at 6:42, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Inaccessible in what way?  Could you explane better please.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 I found Clear's interfaces inaccessable.
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10/01/2012, at 10:51, matthew Dyer matthewd...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 
  Hi All and including mac users.   I am going to be switching over from 
 timeworner to clearwire and was wondering if anyone using clearwire  knows 
 how it is working and how easy is it to use?  I will have 4g and my 
 understanding  it is wify over 4g.  I am just trying to get an idea from 
 anyone here who is blind users inparticular mac users are doing with it.  
 When they coome out to hook it up are they going to have to install any 
 software or do anything on my machine appart from testing the connection?  
 Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 

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Re: A truly frustrating issue

2012-01-11 Thread Tim Kilburn
Thanks for subbing in Chris.  A little crazy at work this week so my home 
eMails get sporadically read.  Good explanation.

Later...

On 2012-01-11, at 11:05 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I'm not Tim, but you should hear the Mac reboot and chime over and over as 
 long as you hold down these keys. If it seems to be booting up regularly then 
 you missed to window of opportunity. Most stuff says to keep holding down the 
 parameter ram reset keys until you hear 3-5 startup chimes.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/11/12 2:53 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
 Tim how does one know if the procedure actually worked when executing all of 
 these keystrokes in a short time period?  Thanks.
 
 Les
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You don't actually need the keys down when you turn on the power button.  
 Simply press the power button, quickly get your hands/fingers in place, 
 then press the cmd+option+p+r as the startup chime sounds.
 
 HTH
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-01-10, at 5:57 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 I was wondering how to do this with a Imac!
 If you have to hold down the keys and then press the power button its a 
 bit tricky with the power button on the back of the Imac!
 Any tips?
 Colin
 
 On 11 Jan 2012, at 00:25, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It's not VO+p+r, it is cmd-+option+p+r.  I usually use my left thumb 
 across the cmd and option keys then my left index and right pinky for the 
 r and p respectively.  What it does is clears out your memory so that 
 any residual stuff that has, for whatever reason, remained clogging up 
 your memory, is sent off into la la land.  This process helps quite often 
 when Macs are behaving erratically.  It is also suggested by Apple as a 
 next step in certain troubleshooting situations.  For example, the 
 Restart is suggested first then the Clear PRAM next, when 
 troubleshooting power issues.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-01-10, at 10:12 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Never heard of that procedure before.  VO+P+r?  That would be 
 interesting to do with only one control key on the left side.
 
 Just what exactly does that sequence do when used as you describe?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Richard,
 
 One thing that hasn't yet been suggested is initialising the PRAM. To 
 do this, shut down your machine, then hold down the Command, Option, 
 letter P and letter R keys and press the Power key. Keep holding down 
 the four keys until you've heard the start up chime at least 3 times. 
 Then release them and the machine will boot as usual.
 
 This procedure can cure all kinds of strange behaviour.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Google ChromeVox

2012-01-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey Becky. The chromevox modifier keys are the same as the VO modifier keys, 
control and option. HTH.

Shawn

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Safari bookmarks

2012-01-11 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.

Am I missing something here?  I tried using the command option B command to
call up my list of book marks.  It seems you have to move up to the first
table, interact with that table, find the bookmark you want, stop
interacting with that table, move down to the next table, interact with that
table, move over to the bookmark listing and then press spacebar.  Can it
possibly be that complicated to pick a bookmark or is there something
obvious I am missing?  Thanks.

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Re: Safari bookmarks

2012-01-11 Thread Gerry Cook
hi Bill I found that out of the 2 tables the first one on the left selects the 
list of bookmarks you havve and the table to the right, of that, you can choose 
the bookmark you want then you stop interacting with that list, hope this helps 
and the 2 tables i have are on the left bookmarks bar address book all rss 
feeds popular add to reading list inported 28/09/11 which are the ones i got 
from internet explorer and bookmarks menu which are what i've added on the 
mac.. the best way i could explain it, and hope this helps.
Gerry Cook
cheers gerry
gerryc...@optusnet.com.au


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 Hi.
 Am I missing something here?  I tried using the command option B command to 
 call up my list of book marks.  It seems you have to move up to the first 
 table, interact with that table, find the bookmark you want, stop interacting 
 with that table, move down to the next table, interact with that table, move 
 over to the bookmark listing and then press spacebar.  Can it possibly be 
 that complicated to pick a bookmark or is there something obvious I am 
 missing?  Thanks.
 Thanks.
 Bill
  
 
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