Voiceover and Training Peaks

[Israel Antonio]

Hi Listers,

I was wondering if any users of Voiceovers have successfully used the Training 
Peaks web site to log your workouts, meals, and receive coaching?

A friend who is a pro triathlete/coach suggested I set up a free account, which 
I did.  Prior to registering, I played with the site activating various links 
to plans, athletes, coaches, articles, blog, and support.  all seemed 
accessible with VO.  I had difficulty signing up but that was more on my end 
and not VO inaccessibility.  I received e-mail confirmation and followed 
instructions to find my friend's group plans, and seemed to be okay until I 
went back to log into the site later on which is when I discovered that upon 
logging in, I am not able to access my profile or training plans.  Instead I'm 
taken to a site where VO tells me that the html is empty.  The only other 
information which VO reads is to tell me the version of Training Peaks.

I went through the links to reach someone at TP support and managed to fill out 
all required information until the very last step which was a visual captcha.  
there was an option for an audio captcha, but each time I entered what I heard, 
I was told what I entered was incorrect.  I did notice a separate form, which I 
filled out, if one is having trouble with the captchas to inform TP staff.  I 
have not heard back.  

I did find a Training Peaks mobile site, but it actually seemed more 
complicated than the TP main site.  There is a TP app for the iPhone which I've 
not yet tried but that might be my next attempt if I can't resolve this issue.  
Hoping if someone has successfully used the site, you can tell me what I might 
be doing wrong which will enable me to access the TP information I need.

Thank you.

Israel


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Re: Really strange problem with Amadeus

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi Chris 

Amadeus is working correctly and as designed from your description. The 
playhead and insertion heads can not be tied together as far as I know. I 
personally Like the way that when audio is not playing, the arrow keys move the 
insertion point rather than the playhead. But I also think that it would b good 
to be able to tie the insertion point to the playhead.  

You can press command G to bring up a goto dialog. 

Feel free to check out a podcast I did on Amadeus at my site www.iblindtech.com 
 
I thick it is episode 37.


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On 09/04/2013, at 5:06 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> OK.  My guess is that I probably just don't know what I'm doing, but here's 
> the situation.
> 
> I have recorded a television show which lasted about an hour and a half. 
> Obviously, there were commercials which now I need to edit out.  I noticed 
> that when no audio was playing, if I used my left and right arrow keys while 
> quick nav was not enabled, my play head moved as expected, but every time 
> that I hit left and right arrow keys while not playing, it's  jumping 
> literally about 10 or so minutes back and forward each time I hit the keys. 
> Obviously, while audio *is!* playing, I can left and right arrow to scrub 
> through the file, and up and down arrows to adjust my speed with no problem. 
> this only is happenning if audio is not playing.  I went to the menu bar, and 
> to the window menu and under markers, and made sure to start, that there were 
> none, and sure enough, there weren't.  So now, when I hit the tab key while 
> not playing, it returns my play head to the beginning of the recording, and 
> starts playing.  Now, here is the reason for my post.  this is so bizarre!  I 
> should add that I don't recall changing any settings, but maybe I did, so if 
> someone can tell me in preferences how on the general tab to have things, one 
> by one set, I'd appreciate it.  Basically, the issue is that when audio isn't 
> playing, if I hit the left and right arrow keys, then space bar, I get very 
> undesirable results.  Basically, I find that the insertion point is moving, 
> but not the play head.  So for instance, say that I put the insertion point 
> at the very end of the recording, then I was to hit the tab key to go to the 
> beginning.  Then I hit space to stop it playing.  Now, if I right arrow, say, 
> two or 3 times while it isn't playing, then hit space bar to play, I get 
> silence, as there is nothing left to play. the insertion point is still at 
> the very end of the recording.  So, I'm having thus to hit command+y to bring 
> the insertion point to the play head every single time before I resume 
> playing after using the arrow keys while not playing.  Otherwise, my 
> movements either 1, don't work at all, or more likely, they work, but in very 
> unwanted ways.  Is there not a setting I can check where the insertion point 
> cursor always follows my play head?  This way, if I stop, my insertion point 
> will be right there with my play head regardless where I arrow around?  Also 
> my final question is, say I have a 45 minute long recording.  Is there a 
> keystroke I can hit to jump say... to 22 mins and 30 seconds into the file?  
> Like a go to time command?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Creating a page on Facebook via the mobile site.

[Jessica Moss]

I'm trying to create a page on facebook for my job, but can't seem to find a 
place there to do this via the mobile site, can this be done?  If not, can 
someone please give me some pointers on how it's done in the first place?
  I had to be given a physical link to a friend's link a while back, because I 
searched and searched for it, and couldn't find it through her profile, and 
didn't know where else to look for it, which was frustrating, and would like to 
try to create one of my own to try to get my business up and running, so would 
love some tips if anyone can give me some.

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Re: Continuous read with Read2Go app

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mike,

You can also switch it to Read By Page under settings.  If you have a braille 
display this works well, because you can just use the page forward command.
Best,
Donna Apr 8, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I read a lot of material using the Read2Go App from Bookshare on my iPhone 
> 4S.  Although I like the app a lot, I find myself annoyed by something that 
> may be a bug, or just a problem with my technique.
> 
> I prefer listening to Bookshare content using the VoiceOver voice, not the 
> TTS that comes with the Read2Go app.  There are two reasons for this.  
> Firstly, I just like the VO voice better.  Secondly, I frequently need to 
> stop speech in order to determine how a word in the text is spelled or to 
> look it up in the dictionary.
> 
> While I am able to read a page from start to finish, I have never been able 
> to make Read2Go automatically advance to the next page in a text and continue 
> reading.  What I do now is manually advance to the next page and then do a 
> two-finger swipe down to listen to the content.  Having to manually go to the 
> next page gets pretty tedious pretty quickly.  Is there any way to get 
> Read2Go to read more than one page at a time when the Read2Go TTS is turned 
> off?
> 
> Thanks for any and all feedback.
> 
> Mike
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Fwd: Introducing Browser Extensions for Keeper

[Dr. Nancy Badger Ph.D.]

For those who use keeper: Can someone explain this to me? What will this do if 
I install it? Do I want to do this?
Thanks
Nancy

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Re: using the back button in safari and other apps

[Danny Noonan]

I like control f5 for toolbar but since ml, I use command left and right arrow 
for back and forward. 1 hand action on a laptop or standard keyboard, unlike 
left right bracket it always works where I've herd some issues with the 
brackets and it requires no terminal to reactivate. 
All personal preference obviously. 
Danny. 
 

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On 09/04/2013, at 5:19 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> didn't know about the delete key for moving back through links. And, as for 
> the back button, well..., uh..., I guess I don't really know.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: using the back button in safari and other apps
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Why would anyone do that when you can just press the delete key or, command 
> left bracket to go back?  I don't know, actually going to the toolbar sounds 
> like more work than is needed.
> 
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> 
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be 
>> placed on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't 
>> work as the "back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a 
>> toolbar subgroup called "back/forward", and you have to first interact with 
>> that group to get to those buttons.
>> 
>> I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on 
>> the back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar in 
>> the toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.
>> 
>> Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
>> ControlF5 functionality?
>> 
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Re: You want Tech Support, we can give you support and how about $200 in gift cards?

[Nancy Wyman]

Sounds interesting but you did not say if the pricing is per month or per year.

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Re: Porting software written in C-sharp two the mac

[Chris Blouch]

Supposedly the Mono project lets you rejigger C# to run on other platforms:

http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:OSX

From what I've read the difficult part isn't c# but that most c# code 
relies heavily on the Microsoft .net frameworks which I'm sure MS will 
never port to OSX. Mono supposedly tries to be a substitute framework. 
In the end, as Brandt suggested, it might be easier just to rewrite it 
in something else more portable. Even a simple web page with some 
javascript.


CB

On 4/8/13 3:15 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
I do not believe that a C sharp program will work in the Macintosh 
environment. C-Sharp was developed by Microsoft and I have only heard 
of it running on their platforms. I would not think a chess timer 
should be too complicated, so perhaps one could write it in less then 
200 lines of code.


The entire interface with the Operating System and windowing 
environment would have to be re-written though.


Best of luck,


On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Brandt wrote:


Hi there folks,

Someone will be giving me the sores code to an application written in 
C sharp for Windows, which I need for keeping time in chess games. 
How would I go about compiling this software for the Mac?


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Re: using the back button in safari and other apps

[Phil Halton]

didn't know about the delete key for moving back through links. And, as for 
the back button, well..., uh..., I guess I don't really know.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: using the back button in safari and other apps


Hi,

Why would anyone do that when you can just press the delete key or, command 
left bracket to go back?  I don't know, actually going to the toolbar sounds 
like more work than is needed.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be 
placed on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't 
work as the "back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a 
toolbar subgroup called "back/forward", and you have to first interact 
with that group to get to those buttons.


I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on 
the back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar 
in the toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.


Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
ControlF5 functionality?



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Re: Porting software written in C-sharp two the mac

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I do not believe that a C sharp program will work in the Macintosh environment. 
C-Sharp was developed by Microsoft and I have only heard of it running on their 
platforms. I would not think a chess timer should be too complicated, so 
perhaps one could write it in less then 200 lines of code.

The entire interface with the Operating System and windowing environment would 
have to be re-written though.

Best of luck,


On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Brandt wrote:

> Hi there folks,
> 
> Someone will be giving me the sores code to an application written in C sharp 
> for Windows, which I need for keeping time in chess games. How would I go 
> about compiling this software for the Mac?
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
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Really strange problem with Amadeus

[Chris Gilland]

OK.  My guess is that I probably just don't know what I'm doing, but here's 
the situation.


I have recorded a television show which lasted about an hour and a half. 
Obviously, there were commercials which now I need to edit out.  I noticed 
that when no audio was playing, if I used my left and right arrow keys while 
quick nav was not enabled, my play head moved as expected, but every time 
that I hit left and right arrow keys while not playing, it's  jumping 
literally about 10 or so minutes back and forward each time I hit the keys. 
Obviously, while audio *is!* playing, I can left and right arrow to scrub 
through the file, and up and down arrows to adjust my speed with no problem. 
this only is happenning if audio is not playing.  I went to the menu bar, 
and to the window menu and under markers, and made sure to start, that there 
were none, and sure enough, there weren't.  So now, when I hit the tab key 
while not playing, it returns my play head to the beginning of the 
recording, and starts playing.  Now, here is the reason for my post.  this 
is so bizarre!  I should add that I don't recall changing any settings, but 
maybe I did, so if someone can tell me in preferences how on the general tab 
to have things, one by one set, I'd appreciate it.  Basically, the issue is 
that when audio isn't playing, if I hit the left and right arrow keys, then 
space bar, I get very undesirable results.  Basically, I find that the 
insertion point is moving, but not the play head.  So for instance, say that 
I put the insertion point at the very end of the recording, then I was to 
hit the tab key to go to the beginning.  Then I hit space to stop it 
playing.  Now, if I right arrow, say, two or 3 times while it isn't playing, 
then hit space bar to play, I get silence, as there is nothing left to play. 
the insertion point is still at the very end of the recording.  So, I'm 
having thus to hit command+y to bring the insertion point to the play head 
every single time before I resume playing after using the arrow keys while 
not playing.  Otherwise, my movements either 1, don't work at all, or more 
likely, they work, but in very unwanted ways.  Is there not a setting I can 
check where the insertion point cursor always follows my play head?  This 
way, if I stop, my insertion point will be right there with my play head 
regardless where I arrow around?  Also my final question is, say I have a 45 
minute long recording.  Is there a keystroke I can hit to jump say... to 22 
mins and 30 seconds into the file?  Like a go to time command?


Thanks.

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Re: using the back button in safari and other apps

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Well, the control-F5 button moves to/away from the toolbar as a standard 
Macintosh command. In my browser, the forward and delete are a group of buttons 
in the second position of the toolbar.

So if I hit control-F5 and then tab, I end up on the back button. If I then use 
either the left  or right arrow keys I will switch between back and forward.

YOur mileage might vary depending on driving conditions. 

Some other resources..

1 In the keyboards area of system preferences one can assign custom keys to 
specific application menus and I also believe buttons. 
2. THe second menu item in the View menu should allow you to customize the 
toolbar button positions.
Best wishes,
. 

On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

> Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be 
> placed on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't 
> work as the "back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a 
> toolbar subgroup called "back/forward", and you have to first interact with 
> that group to get to those buttons.
>  
> I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on 
> the back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar in 
> the toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.
>  
> Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
> ControlF5 functionality?
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Re: Continuous read with Read2Go app

[Jamie Tachiyama]

Does Read To Go only read Daisy files?  If so, does anyone have a good
way to convert text files to daisy files?

On 4/8/13, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> Although this is unfortunate, Nancy, I may have to live with it.  I have
> noticed that this problem arises, even when Bookshare gets material directly
> from the publisher.  Perhaps I need to contact Bllkshare and ask them about
> adding a continuous read feature that would work more satisfactorily.
>
> Thank you very much for your input.  It is my sense that I am not doing
> anything wrong. :-)
>
> Mike
>
> On 8,Apr,2013, at 8:12 PM, Nancy Wyman  wrote:
>
>> From my experience, it all depends on the way the book is scanned in. If
>> it's ScanMan and small sections, the video will stop at the end of each
>> section this gets annoying. If it is Scandi and as one chapter equals one
>> section, then it VO Will read continuingly to the end of the chapter.
>>
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling
>> errors.
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I read a lot of material using the Read2Go App from Bookshare on my
>>> iPhone 4S.  Although I like the app a lot, I find myself annoyed by
>>> something that may be a bug, or just a problem with my technique.
>>>
>>> I prefer listening to Bookshare content using the VoiceOver voice, not
>>> the TTS that comes with the Read2Go app.  There are two reasons for this.
>>>  Firstly, I just like the VO voice better.  Secondly, I frequently need
>>> to stop speech in order to determine how a word in the text is spelled or
>>> to look it up in the dictionary.
>>>
>>> While I am able to read a page from start to finish, I have never been
>>> able to make Read2Go automatically advance to the next page in a text and
>>> continue reading.  What I do now is manually advance to the next page and
>>> then do a two-finger swipe down to listen to the content.  Having to
>>> manually go to the next page gets pretty tedious pretty quickly.  Is
>>> there any way to get Read2Go to read more than one page at a time when
>>> the Read2Go TTS is turned off?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any and all feedback.
>>>
>>> Mike
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Re: audio hijack pro and voiceover

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks,
I'm trying not to break the bank. LOL
On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Umm, Art is a brand. Here is a device I've used in the past:
> 
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/USBDualPrePS/
> 
> Of course a real mixer gives you all kinds of flexibility but the cost starts 
> going up.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/1/13 9:51 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> Any brand recommendations?
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> How are you concurrently connecting the mic and the reader to record? Are 
>>> you using a mixer or a dual-input preamp? If it were me I'd do it with 
>>> something like the ART USB DualPre. Mic goes in one input, Reader goes in 
>>> the other and then record just from the USB audio device. No voiceover will 
>>> ever get into the audio stream being recorded.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 3/30/13 10:01 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 Hi:
 I'm trying to record myself speaking, and the sound output from a Victor 
 Reader Stream. I have a MBP 2010. I do have an Oak external mike that will 
 go in the mike jack on my MBP. I do not want to hear VO because this needs 
 to sound professional. Thanks for the assistance.
 On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Esther  wrote:
 
> Hi Sarai,
> 
> I'm not sure what you're trying to record or what your Mac configuration 
> is (Mac Mini or laptop Mac, available USB ports, line-in, etc.).Are 
> you saying that you're using your line-in to connect the input sound 
> device to your computer, so you don't have a way to independently monitor 
> the sound level coming in with your headphones?   You can use a Griffin 
> iMic to let you plug your input or output audio source into the iMic and 
> connect to your Mac through a USB port.  These run for about $25 at 
> Amazon, and mine dates from when I got my first Mac and wanted to 
> digitize old cassette tapes, so it's about 8 years old and still works. I 
> used the iMic with Amadeus Pro to record. You could also put a 
> Y-connector on your audio source so you can hook in headphones that way.  
> There's also a very convenient free program, named "LineIn", that you can 
> download from the Rogue Amoeba freebies page:
> http://rogueamoeba.com/freebies/
> 
> You can use this app to direct the sound output that you've plugged into 
> your line-in to your Mac's speakers.  Most recording and editing programs 
> have a pass-through feature for this kind of monitoring, but this 
> function is not built into the Mac's audio system by default.  Select 
> Input from Built-In Line In and send Output to Default System Output.  
> Then VO-Space on the "pass-thru" checkbox.
> 
> If you are using Audio Hijack Pro for multiple sources, you generally 
> first hijack system audio, and then individual applications.  If you want 
> to hijack the system audio without VoiceOver, you'll have to mute VO.  As 
> Teresa says, I don't think you can leave VoiceOver out of the system 
> audio recordings.
> 
> Here's another suggestion. Many of the questions you are asking came up 
> when Anna Dresner joined the list for a brief time four years ago.  She 
> wanted to make a teaching podcast using Audio Hijack Pro, although she 
> actually both wanted to have a demo of an iPod device, and record with 
> VoiceOver.  Use the Mail Archive web search for this list.  I'll point 
> you to one of the archived posts I gave her in reply, pointing her to an 
> old podcast about using Audio Hijack Pro:
> • Re: creating a teaching podcast
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06213.html
> 
> In addition to reading that page for content, navigate to the search text 
> box and type in:
> from:Woody hijack
> and press return.  There are less than a dozen results.  (She posted as 
> "Woody Anna Dresner", so I used the first word as the argument for the 
> "from:" search keyword, which has a colon immediately after the word. You 
> can use any word in the posting name to search by the poster, or the full 
> name if you put the entire name in quotation marks, but it's best to 
> choose a word that gives unique results.)
> 
> Activate the links with the various post subjects to read the full posts, 
> then read up or down the threads with Control-N or Control-P.  You'll get 
> most of the questions she asked and the responses on topics like how best 
> to stop the recording, and was there any way to get rid of the 30 second 
> delay in listening to combined hijacked tracks.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 30 Mar 2013, at 09:47, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunantly, VO gets recorded. Unless I can edit out VO from the 
>> background.
>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A

Re: Mack question:

[Nancy Wyman]

I have a MacBook pro that I have been using since 2009 and it is still going 
strong.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:31 PM, "Red.Falcon"  
wrote:

> Hi there!
> Although Apples cover will be over you could take out your own with some kind 
> of insurance!
> And as far as keep on using the one you've got I heard people talking about 
> still using Mac's longer than 3 years and they are still going strong!
> As I've said in another post this iMac is nearly 4 and nothing has gone wrong 
> with it at all!
> I had to have it repaired once but that was totally my fault!
> HTH
> Colin
> 
> On 7 Apr 2013, at 22:50, Chenelle Hancock  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> it's been a while since i have posted  anything on the list. I wanted to 
>> know if ones  computer would no longer be covered  due to its three year 
>> expiration date  coming up in mid october. would you just  purchase another 
>> mack book or would you just continue using the one that you currently have 
>> in spite of it no longer having any coverage on it?
>> thanks so much for your help and time. it is  greatly appreciate it.
>> sincerely, chenelle.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 07/04/2013, at 5:45 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>> 
>>>   Today's Topic Summary
>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>>> 
>>> Serious question about Mac vs. Windows [3 Updates]
>>> pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an iPod 4th gen [1 Update]
>>> Selling my iPhone 4S [1 Update]
>>> Jumping in with using a Mac [5 Updates]
>>> VM Fusion and Windows 7 [1 Update]
>>> Porting software written in C-sharp two the mac [1 Update]
>>> Strange FTP problem [1 Update]
>>>  Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
>>> Jamie Pauls  Apr 07 01:07PM -0500  
>>> 
>>> I find VoiceOver to be a very robust screen reader. I think you will fine 
>>> that the only accessibility issues you have will be with specific 
>>> applications. About the only area where there seems to be a consensus is in 
>>> office productivity. Microsoft office and windows screen readers continue 
>>> to have a definite edge there. I am hopeful that this will not always be 
>>> the case. VoiceOver is quite powerful as a screen reader and serves its 
>>> operating system quite adequately, in my opinion. 
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Eugenia Firth  Apr 07 04:12PM -0500  
>>> 
>>> Hi Shannon and Kelly
>>> In my opinion, voiceover is a serious screen reader which is a serious 
>>> contender with window was in Jaws. Having said that, I think that it's not 
>>> voiceover that's limited, it's the applications which your work with it or 
>>> don't, depending on whether of the developer Roos contacted Apple for the 
>>> information they needed to make it work. This also assumes that they 
>>> thought of us in the first place. There are some blind people these days 
>>> that have really no useful windows and Leslie want it. iPhone one could do 
>>> without it forever.
>>> Regards,
>>> GG
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Maria & Joe Chapman  Apr 08 07:45AM +1000  
>>> 
>>> HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices 
>>> integrate with the mac. Not to mention in my opinion itunes and vo work 
>>> much better than iTunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time 
>>> just before I switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi. 
>>> I also think as time goes on there will be more and more accessible 
>>> programmes for the mac. 
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>>  
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an iPod 4th gen
>>> Mark Baxter  Apr 07 02:32PM -0700  
>>> 
>>> Can this be done? whenever he goes t accessibility/voiceover/braille, it 
>>> only sees a "braille edge 0102," and cannot successfully pair. Any ideas?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
>>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>>> • My home page:
>>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>>  
>>>  Selling my iPhone 4S
>>> "Chris Gilland"  Apr 07 04:28PM -0400  
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 4S black 16GB locked to the AT&T carrier, non-jailbroken, 
>>> and never once has been, which was bought in February of 2011. This hone is 
>>> in 100% tip-top mint condition, not a single scratch or crack on it. It 
>>> never even once has ever been dropped. It is running the latest I O S 
>>> 6.1.3. 
>>> I have all the cables, as well as the electrical receptacle charging cube, 
>>> and even still have the original earbuds. Though I love this phone, I have 
>>> upgraded last January to an iPhone 5 black 64GB, so I no longer am in the 
>>> need for this phone. I'm asking $200.00. Please note as a few 

Re: Continuous read with Read2Go app

[Mike Busboom]

Although this is unfortunate, Nancy, I may have to live with it.  I have 
noticed that this problem arises, even when Bookshare gets material directly 
from the publisher.  Perhaps I need to contact Bllkshare and ask them about 
adding a continuous read feature that would work more satisfactorily.

Thank you very much for your input.  It is my sense that I am not doing 
anything wrong. :-)

Mike

On 8,Apr,2013, at 8:12 PM, Nancy Wyman  wrote:

> From my experience, it all depends on the way the book is scanned in. If it's 
> ScanMan and small sections, the video will stop at the end of each section 
> this gets annoying. If it is Scandi and as one chapter equals one section, 
> then it VO Will read continuingly to the end of the chapter.
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I read a lot of material using the Read2Go App from Bookshare on my iPhone 
>> 4S.  Although I like the app a lot, I find myself annoyed by something that 
>> may be a bug, or just a problem with my technique.
>> 
>> I prefer listening to Bookshare content using the VoiceOver voice, not the 
>> TTS that comes with the Read2Go app.  There are two reasons for this.  
>> Firstly, I just like the VO voice better.  Secondly, I frequently need to 
>> stop speech in order to determine how a word in the text is spelled or to 
>> look it up in the dictionary.
>> 
>> While I am able to read a page from start to finish, I have never been able 
>> to make Read2Go automatically advance to the next page in a text and 
>> continue reading.  What I do now is manually advance to the next page and 
>> then do a two-finger swipe down to listen to the content.  Having to 
>> manually go to the next page gets pretty tedious pretty quickly.  Is there 
>> any way to get Read2Go to read more than one page at a time when the Read2Go 
>> TTS is turned off?
>> 
>> Thanks for any and all feedback.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: Continuous read with Read2Go app

[Nancy Wyman]

>From my experience, it all depends on the way the book is scanned in. If it's 
>ScanMan and small sections, the video will stop at the end of each section 
>this gets annoying. If it is Scandi and as one chapter equals one section, 
>then it VO Will read continuingly to the end of the chapter.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I read a lot of material using the Read2Go App from Bookshare on my iPhone 
> 4S.  Although I like the app a lot, I find myself annoyed by something that 
> may be a bug, or just a problem with my technique.
> 
> I prefer listening to Bookshare content using the VoiceOver voice, not the 
> TTS that comes with the Read2Go app.  There are two reasons for this.  
> Firstly, I just like the VO voice better.  Secondly, I frequently need to 
> stop speech in order to determine how a word in the text is spelled or to 
> look it up in the dictionary.
> 
> While I am able to read a page from start to finish, I have never been able 
> to make Read2Go automatically advance to the next page in a text and continue 
> reading.  What I do now is manually advance to the next page and then do a 
> two-finger swipe down to listen to the content.  Having to manually go to the 
> next page gets pretty tedious pretty quickly.  Is there any way to get 
> Read2Go to read more than one page at a time when the Read2Go TTS is turned 
> off?
> 
> Thanks for any and all feedback.
> 
> Mike
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Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows

[ppowells09]

Hi Shannon, To my knowledge, no one has mentioned the learning curve involved 
when changing systems. What does your wife use her computer for? Also, does she 
have the time to emerse herself in a new system for the sake of truly learning 
to use it? I have both a mac & windows machine. I spent most of my computer 
life on DOS & Windows. However, after losing my mom almost 2 years ago, I used 
the time on my hands to really get educated on the mac OS & have not regretted 
it. There are pros & cons to both systems depending on the primary use of one's 
computer along with the time one has. Good luck with your decision, welcome to 
the list.

Pam Francis

On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

I don't think you will ever win the game of trying to figure out when the next 
MacBook will come out, especially since Apple seems to be less predictable 
about the timing of new product releases then they used to be. I purchased my 
MacBook last November and I expect to remain content with it for quite some 
time. I would say go ahead and purchase now if that is in fact what you decide 
to do. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:58 PM, "Shannon Gerdts"  wrote:

> Hello all,
> Again thanks so much for all your prompt responses on this issue.  The 
> last thing I guess we have to ask is just if anyone knows how mac goes about 
> their releases of computers since I know the newest macbook pro currently is 
> almost a year old.  If anyone knows their typical releasing of computers or 
> if they have a specific regular timeframe than we could think about holding 
> out if the new macbook is coming out relatively soon.
>  
> Take care,
> Shannon Gerdts
>  
> From: Maria & Joe Chapman
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
>  
> HI.  Yes, I was going to point  out how well the mac and Ios devices 
> integrate with the mac.  Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work 
> much better than itunes and jaws or nvda.  I did try to use nvda full time 
> just before  I switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi.  
> I also think as time goes on there will be more and more accessible 
> programmes for the mac.   
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl
> skype: bubbygirl1972
>  
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On 04/04/2013, at 6:52 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Well, if you have iOS devices there are more advantages, since things like 
>> contacts, notes, calendars, and more sync to all your devices. You can, for 
>> instance, do a lot of typing in reminders or contacts on the mac, and then 
>> the changes will appear on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch.
>> 
>> I'll not talk about the other advantages of the Mac, since they are 
>> basically the same for sighted and blind users so any Gogle search can give 
>> you more than I could think of. I will mention the cost of screen readers, 
>> though: vo is free, whereas most Windows screen readers cost money. However, 
>> the free NVDA screen reader nullifies this point somewhat.
>> 
>> I still don't like browsing the web on the mac as much as on windows, but I 
>> have grown used to it. Still, I like the windows approach to the internet 
>> much more (well, technically, I like windows scree readers' approaches to 
>> it). Aside from that, and having less hotkeys in dialogs (balanced by the 
>> ability to assign custom hotkeys to items in the dropdown menus), I can't 
>> think of disadvantages except, of course, the price.
>> 
>> I use both Bootcamp and a virtual machine solution, so both avenues are open 
>> to you assuming you have a license key for your copy of windows. I'm not 
>> suggesting you have an illegal copy, I'm saying you will need the 
>> 25-character code to re-authorize your copy of windows if you want it to 
>> work normally. You can find isos of Windows online and use them, but they 
>> will expire and you could run into some problems if that happens. The 
>> bootcamp vs vm debate is also something I will not get into here, as it has 
>> little to do specifically with the blind and so information you find online 
>> will apply to you as much as anyone else.
>> 
>> If you have additional questions, let me know.
>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Shannon Gerdts  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> I'm a new subscriber as of today and would like to ask this direct question 
>>> without getting a lot of elitest Mac/Windows mentalities.  What I mean by 
>>> this is I would love to get some feedback from you guys on the list about 
>>> an unbiased bit of feedback on your experiences with the Mac.  I also would 
>>> like to know what you guys have experienced as being pros to the switch 
>>> from a windows machine to that of a  Mac system as well as cons if there is 
>>> any.  Have any of you used boot camp or another way of running windows 
>>> successfully on

Continuous read with Read2Go app

[Mike Busboom]

Hello.

I read a lot of material using the Read2Go App from Bookshare on my iPhone 4S.  
Although I like the app a lot, I find myself annoyed by something that may be a 
bug, or just a problem with my technique.

I prefer listening to Bookshare content using the VoiceOver voice, not the TTS 
that comes with the Read2Go app.  There are two reasons for this.  Firstly, I 
just like the VO voice better.  Secondly, I frequently need to stop speech in 
order to determine how a word in the text is spelled or to look it up in the 
dictionary.

While I am able to read a page from start to finish, I have never been able to 
make Read2Go automatically advance to the next page in a text and continue 
reading.  What I do now is manually advance to the next page and then do a 
two-finger swipe down to listen to the content.  Having to manually go to the 
next page gets pretty tedious pretty quickly.  Is there any way to get Read2Go 
to read more than one page at a time when the Read2Go TTS is turned off?

Thanks for any and all feedback.

Mike

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Re: using the back button in safari and other apps

[Thierry Renoux]

Hello,

In order to  use the backspace key in Safari open terminal and enter the 
following command:
defaults write com.apple.Safari 
com.apple.Safari.ContentPageGroupIdentifier.WebKit2BackspaceKeyNavigationEnabled
 -bool YES

Thierry
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Why would anyone do that when you can just press the delete key or, command 
> left bracket to go back?  I don't know, actually going to the toolbar sounds 
> like more work than is needed.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be 
>> placed on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't 
>> work as the "back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a 
>> toolbar subgroup called "back/forward", and you have to first interact with 
>> that group to get to those buttons.
>> 
>> I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on 
>> the back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar in 
>> the toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.
>> 
>> Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
>> ControlF5 functionality?
>> 
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Re: pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen

[Mark Baxter]

Neither have I had any problems with the Phone or Pad and pairing the Edge.  I 
love that thing!  I do not own a pod, as I've said, and I hope he gets it 
straightened out because until I get a pod and a chance to learn its quirks, I 
can't help any more than I have. :) Thanks; we'll just keep our fingers 
crossed--the ones we're not using to gesture with.


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Re: pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Mark
I've never had any problems with the Braille Edge 40 with the iPhone. So 
there's something weird going on here. Hope you can figure it out, because I 
can't think of anything else to suggest yet.
Regards,
Gigi
On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> Hi, Gigi:
> 
> Yeah, we went through all those steps, even turned off the laptop in the 
> other room that it *WAS* successfully paired with, to eliminate interference. 
>  I don't know what version IOS the Ipod is running.  I was trying to help him 
> over the phone with the mediation of a health worker, and it just didn't take.
> 
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Re: using the back button in safari and other apps

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Why would anyone do that when you can just press the delete key or, command 
left bracket to go back?  I don't know, actually going to the toolbar sounds 
like more work than is needed.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be 
> placed on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't 
> work as the "back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a 
> toolbar subgroup called "back/forward", and you have to first interact with 
> that group to get to those buttons.
>  
> I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on 
> the back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar in 
> the toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.
>  
> Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
> ControlF5 functionality?
>  
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Re: Apology

[Kevin Mattingly]

A lot of noise about nothing. Its never been an abusive practice, so let it go. 
I saw it and it was a good deal for someone. Everyone needs to appreciate the 
opportunity to pick up a bargain when offered.

Kev
On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> Can I just say here that promotional materials for accessibility training 
> businesses and so forth come across both this and the VIPhone list all the 
> time, including the one I work for?  I specifically asked about this when 
> other such businesses began promoting and advertising, so why is it off topic 
> to post an Iphone for sale?  Has nothign to do with the Haves and the 
> Have-nots.
> 
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Re: Apology

[Mark Baxter]

Can I just say here that promotional materials for accessibility training 
businesses and so forth come across both this and the VIPhone list all the 
time, including the one I work for?  I specifically asked about this when other 
such businesses began promoting and advertising, so why is it off topic to post 
an Iphone for sale?  Has nothign to do with the Haves and the Have-nots.


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Re: pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen

[Mark Baxter]

Hi, Gigi:

Yeah, we went through all those steps, even turned off the laptop in the other 
room that it *WAS* successfully paired with, to eliminate interference.  I 
don't know what version IOS the Ipod is running.  I was trying to help him over 
the phone with the mediation of a health worker, and it just didn't take.


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Re: using the back button in safari and other apps

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi.
Wouldn't it be easier to do CMD left bracket to go back and CMD right bracket 
to go forward?
Matt
Sent from my mac
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On 2013-04-08, at 11:02 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be 
> placed on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't 
> work as the "back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a 
> toolbar subgroup called "back/forward", and you have to first interact with 
> that group to get to those buttons.
>  
> I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on 
> the back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar in 
> the toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.
>  
> Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
> ControlF5 functionality?
>  
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using the back button in safari and other apps

[Phil Halton]

Once upon a time in Safari, you could press control +F5 and you would be placed 
on the "back" button in the toolbar. Now, That key command doesn't work as the 
"back" and "forward" buttons seem to have been placed in a toolbar subgroup 
called "back/forward", and you have to first interact with that group to get to 
those buttons.

I've noticed that pressing tab when at the end of the HTML will put you on the 
back button, and pressing control+F7 will put you on the address bar in the 
toolbar which is kind of close to the back button.

Other than that, how are people using the back buttons since this loss of 
ControlF5 functionality?

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Re: Mack question:

[matthew Dyer]

Hi there.

I am using a 2009 mac mini and the worinty expired on it last June.  If it 
continues to work for you then you should be fine.  If you having problems as I 
have then you could looking into  getting another one.  I donbn't think you can 
get  a new worinty with it.  HTH.

Matthew


On Apr 7, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> it's been a while since i have posted  anything on the list. I wanted to know 
> if ones  computer would no longer be covered  due to its three year 
> experation date  coming up in mid october. would you just  purchase another 
> mack book or would you just continue using the one that you hcurrently have 
> in spite of it no longer having any coverage on it?
> thanks so much for your help and time. it is  greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 07/04/2013, at 5:45 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>> 
>> Serious question about Mac vs. Windows [3 Updates]
>> pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen [1 Update]
>> Selling my IPhone 4S [1 Update]
>> Jumping in with using a Mac [5 Updates]
>> VM Fusion and Windows 7 [1 Update]
>> Porting software written in C-sharp two the mac [1 Update]
>> Strange FTP problem [1 Update]
>>  Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
>> Jamie Pauls  Apr 07 01:07PM -0500  
>> 
>> I find VoiceOver to be a very robust screen reader. I think you will fine 
>> that the only accessibility issues you have will be with specific 
>> applications. About the only area where there seems to be a consensus is in 
>> office productivity. Microsoft office and windows screen readers continue to 
>> have a definite edge there. I am hopeful that this will not always be the 
>> case. VoiceOver is quite powerful as a screen reader and serves its 
>> operating system quite adequately, in my opinion. 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>>  
>> Eugenia Firth  Apr 07 04:12PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hi Shannon and Kelly
>> In my opinion, voiceover is a serious screen reader which is a serious 
>> contender with window was in Jaws. Having said that, I think that it's not 
>> voiceover that's limited, it's the applications which your work with it or 
>> don't, depending on whether of the developer Roos contacted Apple for the 
>> information they needed to make it work. This also assumes that they thought 
>> of us in the first place. There are some blind people these days that have 
>> really no useful windows and Leslie want it. iPhone one could do without it 
>> forever.
>> Regards,
>> GG
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>>  
>> Maria & Joe Chapman  Apr 08 07:45AM +1000  
>> 
>> HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices integrate 
>> with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work much better 
>> than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time just before I 
>> switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi. I also think as 
>> time goes on there will be more and more accessible programmes for the mac. 
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>  
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen
>> Mark Baxter  Apr 07 02:32PM -0700  
>> 
>> Can this be done? whenever he goes t accessibility/voiceover/braille, it 
>> only sees a "braille edge 0102," and cannot successfully pair. Any ideas?
>>  
>>  
>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> • My home page:
>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>  
>>  Selling my IPhone 4S
>> "Chris Gilland"  Apr 07 04:28PM -0400  
>> 
>> I have an IPhone 4S black 16GB locked to the AT&T carrier, non-jailbroken, 
>> and never once has been, which was bought in February of 2011. This hone is 
>> in 100% tip-top mint condition, not a single scratch or crack on it. It 
>> never even once has ever been dropped. It is running the latest I O S 6.1.3. 
>> I have all the cables, as well as the electrical receptacle charging cube, 
>> and even still have the original earbuds. Though I love this phone, I have 
>> upgraded last January to an IPhone 5 black 64GB, so I no longer am in the 
>> need for this phone. I'm asking $200.00. Please note as a few people have 
>> asked me this already, so I want to make this very clear from the get-go. 
>> No, I will not accept multiple installment payments. I must receive the 
>> payment in full all at once, and only will ship to the states, sorry 
>> Canadian residents. The $200 does include shipping. If you are an IPhone 
>> Newby, I even can have it set when you get it for Voiceover already to be 
>> enabled, although it's easy enough to do yourself. I know this list is for 
>> Mac users, however, upon request, I will even for an additional dollar, 

creating repeating appointments on calendar with osx

[William Windels]

Hello,
It seems so frustrating sometimes to work with the calendar on osx 10.8.3:
I want to create a appointment that repeated every 2 weeks starting at 
23/4/2013 and ending 18/6/2013.
I have several problems to set this specific repetition of every 2 weeks:
When I chose for a specific repetition in the combo box, I have a dialogue box.
There  the frequention is set to every week in the combo box and this is ok for 
me.
then vo+right end I can fill in a number  for every x weeks the event should 
repeate.
Then vo+right and I can fill in on which day(s) of the week the event should 
repeat with checking or unchecking the checkbox next to every day of the week.
Here, while the speech is saying checked, braille is showing unchecked. ;)
Also here: every checkbox that has vo-cursor on my braille display, becomes 
checked…
When I close this dialogue box for the days of the week and  the frequent ion 
with the ok-button, the focus isn't jumping back automatically to the screen 
with the basic information of my event…

Also , when I change a appointment that's part of a repetition, There is a 
message that asks if I want to change all the appointments of the repetition or 
only the event I am editing.
Unfortunately, this question is asked in a new window but is not having focus 
automatically.

Conclusion:
If this situation is clear and true, I can only conclude that the calendar in 
10.8.3 has some voiceover bugs that  will be fixed next to some new bugs Apple 
ail make.

In my personal opinion, the quality of voiceover in osx is going down and the 
advantage of having one company for the os and the screenreader is not a 
advantage since they do not enough tests before the release and are debugging 
so slowly sometimes.

With frustrated regards,
William Windels

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Re: Apology

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Chriss.

You have to remember that there are many members on this list from the whole 
world, and not only the US or UK. therefore I wander why mails regarding sails 
are allowed on those lists, because those mails are only for those who are 
living in the countries which the sails person is willing to send the device to.
Do you see my point? If I was selling my phone and said that I'm only willing 
to sell it to people in Denmark, all other people from other countries would 
say this was spam. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there are more 
than 700 members on those lists, and many of them are from the whole globe.
So for that reason, I'll say that sails mails should only be allowed if people 
from the whole world would be able to buy the items people are trying to sell.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 08/04/2013 kl. 00.40 skrev Chris Gilland :

> Hello guys.
> 
> a couple of people have written me off the list regarding my selling of my 
> iPhone 4S. It appears, though I have no idea why, a lot of you have been very 
> offended at me posting this to the list. I was simply trying to offer you 
> guys an option, for a nice, yet cheap cell phone. I have seen people plenty 
> of times before put things up on list like this. And after all, though this 
> list is more for Mac related things, I have seen plenty of posts regarding 
> iPhone stuff as well. The bottom ultimate line is, I'm sorry for offending 
> everyone. Don't worry, I will put the phone on eBay, and will not offer it up 
> here any longer, Seeing that you guys don't seem to be impressed with the 
> fact that I am offering it. It's obvious that my offer was very unwelcomed.
> 
> Anyway, sorry again for the inconvenience. I will Leave you guys alone.
> 
> Chris.
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Re: pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen

[Eugenia Firth]

I'm not sure but I think it needs to be running iOS 6. You might want to find 
that out first. Then, you might notice there is a switch on the braille inch 
40. If the switch is in the position of towards the keyboard, then the 
Bluetooth is not On that. It has to be in the other position for the Bluetooth 
to be on. I would restart both devices. Then make sure you go to the VoiceOver 
utility in accessibility and go to braille. Do not try to turn it on by 
choosing the Bluetooth option and parry that way. It won't work.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> It's an Ipod, I would assume it's running IOS^.1.3 adapted for Ipod touch.  I 
> have no idea, I don't own a Pod. Pad, PHone, no pod. What the heck is wrong 
> with me. :)
> 
> 
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RE: Apology

[wayne17a]

Hi chris you did not offend me and you are right some folks don't
have a budget to buy new things so this is what some people have to look out
for so unless the moderaters tell you not to do this then don't worry 


-wayne cOriginal Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
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Subject: Apology

Hello guys.

a couple of people have written me off the list regarding my selling of my
iPhone 4S. It appears, though I have no idea why, a lot of you have been
very offended at me posting this to the list. I was simply trying to offer
you guys an option, for a nice, yet cheap cell phone. I have seen people
plenty of times before put things up on list like this. And after all,
though this list is more for Mac related things, I have seen plenty of posts
regarding iPhone stuff as well. The bottom ultimate line is, I'm sorry for
offending everyone. Don't worry, I will put the phone on eBay, and will not
offer it up here any longer, Seeing that you guys don't seem to be impressed
with the fact that I am offering it. It's obvious that my offer was very
unwelcomed.

Anyway, sorry again for the inconvenience. I will Leave you guys alone.

Chris.

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Re: using onekey navigation with vo on mac (webpages)

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Anouk,

All the commands are documented in VoiceOver Utility, right where you enable 
single key navigation. Just click on Assign Commands and a table will appear 
with all the predefined commands. The contents of this table are by default the 
arrow key combinations, but if you click the Arrows modifier key pop up button, 
you can select Single Keys and the table will then show all the commands.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Apr 2013, at 08:28, anouk radix  wrote:

> Thanks for that info Rachel, is there a reference somewhere to see what 
> commands i can use? I assume probbably the getting started guide but still 
> need to reread that later today.
> Thanks
> Greetings, Anouk,
> Op 08/04/2013 01:50, Rachel Feinberg schreef:
>> Hi Anouk,
>> 
>> You can enable single key navigation on web pages, so when quick Nav is on, 
>> you'll be able to use H to jump to headings, much like you do in iOS.
>> to do this, go to the voiceover utility with vo+f8. And scroll down the 
>> table to the commanders category. Choose the "Quick Nav" tab, and check the 
>> box that says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav"
>> then, you'll be able to navigate the web as you got used to on the phone 
>> side of things.
>> Rachel
>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:49 PM, anouk radix  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I borrowed a mac from a friend of mine for a few months.
>>> I know you can do on ekey jump to headings etc on ios with a bt keyboard. I 
>>> know i can do this with the webrotor on the mac but would prefer one-key 
>>> navigation. Is this possible and how can i set this up?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings Anouk,
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