Apple Mail question.

2013-06-14 Thread Danny Noonan
I've had disk issues with my mac since day 1 and finally after 2 years talked 
apple into installing a new hard disk so I'm setting up from scratch again. 
With this in mind, I've somehow stumbled on the 48000 messages that were 
somehow stored on my mail server. There now all in an old messages folder in 
apple mail.

This is good because I don't have to try and grab the couple of thousand 
archive messages from my corrupted ccc boot disk backup but trying to work with 
1 folder with this many messages is painful. The amount of busy notifications 
and mail restarts is astounding. 

My question is, I'm trying to apply message rules to this folder so that I can 
have list messages in appropriate folders to be able to work with them but all 
I can find is control option l to apply message rules. I've tried this in the 
folder with all message s highlighted and not highlighted but nothing seems to 
be working. Is there a way to force apple mail to apply rules to a specific 
folder or set of messages?

Thanks in advance and apologies for the next batch of questions in advance 
also..

Danny.

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Re: contacts manager in i phone

2013-06-14 Thread Danny Noonan
It's easy to do but stupid in method. You have to edit the contact, scroll to 
the bottom with a 3 finger swipe up and flick to delete contact which is the 
very bottom option 



Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 15/06/2013, at 11:19 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> Ok, to add to this thread, how do you go about removing a contact?  I think I 
> stumbled across this once, but can't remember how I found it now, so could 
> use a memory refresher, sense I have several I need to get rid of.
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> My responses are in the below message.
>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:08 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All:
>>> I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
>>> Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through 
>>> the letter headings is annoying.  
>>> My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add 
>>> contacts thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a 
>>> photo.  Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  
>>> Somehow when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the 
>>> first name in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.
>> Are you double tapping on each field in turn? Just flicking to the next 
>> field is not enough, you must then tap on it to edit it.
>> 
>>> Next comes company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put 
>>> someone's mobile number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels
>> This is the place where you can label the phone number. If the contact only 
>> has a work and home number, you would hit the "mobile" button, choose work 
>> or home, then hit done.
>> 
>>> If I cancel this and return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile 
>>> phone text field that was not there previously.
>> No, it was there all along, but when you get out of the labels screen you 
>> are automatically focused on the field to enter the number you just labeled.
>> 
>>> This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then when I return to the 
>>> add contact screen once again I have to go all the way to the done field in 
>>> order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a better way.
>> What do you mean by "return"? Once you are adding the number, just touch the 
>> number field or the label button, then keep flicking right to enter 
>> additional information.
>>> Jean
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>> Have a great day,
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Re: contacts manager in i phone

2013-06-14 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, to add to this thread, how do you go about removing a contact?  I think I 
stumbled across this once, but can't remember how I found it now, so could use 
a memory refresher, sense I have several I need to get rid of.
On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> My responses are in the below message.
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:08 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All:
>> I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
>> Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through 
>> the letter headings is annoying.  
>> My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add contacts 
>> thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a photo.  
>> Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  Somehow 
>> when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the first name 
>> in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.
> Are you double tapping on each field in turn? Just flicking to the next field 
> is not enough, you must then tap on it to edit it.
> 
>> Next comes company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put 
>> someone's mobile number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels
> This is the place where you can label the phone number. If the contact only 
> has a work and home number, you would hit the "mobile" button, choose work or 
> home, then hit done.
> 
>> If I cancel this and return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile 
>> phone text field that was not there previously.
> No, it was there all along, but when you get out of the labels screen you are 
> automatically focused on the field to enter the number you just labeled.
> 
>> This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then when I return to the add 
>> contact screen once again I have to go all the way to the done field in 
>> order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a better way.
> What do you mean by "return"? Once you are adding the number, just touch the 
> number field or the label button, then keep flicking right to enter 
> additional information.
>> Jean
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> Have a great day,
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-14 Thread Phil Halton
He couldn't have been very knowledgeable about VO if he didn't know that 
parallels is inaccessible, and that VMWare or Bootcamp are the only windows 
solutions.
I too am about to start using VMWare on an iMac. I have a bootcamp 
installation of Windows7 already on the iMac, and will be installing and 
using VMWare soon to access it more readily. My only dilemma is whether or 
not to eliminate Bootcamp, or to run it directly through VMWare.


- Original Message - 
From: "zoe" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:45 PM
Subject: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hi everyone, I am thinking about getting a base  iMac. I am thinking about 
getting a fusion drive and running Windows 8. I have been using windows for 
13 years and IM a little afraid to convert to the Mac. I use an iPhone, and 
that has opened up a new world for me. The accessibility that I have gotten 
with voice over in my humble opinion, is excellent. Even though I love my 
iPhone, the truth of the matter is I am used to windows. Having said all 
this I really want to make the transition to Mac I believe that I can learn 
a lot, and I also further believe that my experience will be great. Here is 
where I need everybody's feedback. The person who assessed me for my new 
computer suggested I use Boot Camp which comes with the Mac computer. a 
second person later on suggested that I use fusion because it is easier to 
toggle between windows and the mac side. When I went to the Apple Store the 
gentleman who helped me, a very very nice man and knowledgeable invoice over 
told me I should not go with boot camp or fusion, but I should go with 
something called parallel. What do you all suggest. I would like to know the 
differences between Boot Camp fusion and parallel what will be the best for 
me to run what is most accessible?  Does it even matter? Should I be putting 
so much thought into this? Any advice would be appreciated so so much thank 
you all for taking the time to read my mail and thank you in advance for 
giving me advice if you can. Regards Zoe


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Re: what's the current state of firefox accessibility with the latest version of mac os10

2013-06-14 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Firefox 21 is very usable although not perfect yet.  It's certainly worth the 
download and investigating it yourself.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-14, at 11:07 AM, trahern culver  wrote:

> hey all does any one know the current state of firefox accessibility
> with the latest version of mac os10?
> 
> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
> trahern.
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Re: contacts manager in i phone

2013-06-14 Thread Eugenia Firth
I have had some trouble with this too, but I finally figured out that it works 
better if you flick left and right from the left-hand side to the right-hand 
side of the screen and vice versa to get the proper fields come up. I found it 
very frustrating to run my finger around the screen to find the right things. 
The first and the last name field or at the top of the screen so you don't when 
you flick left or right, you need to double tap on them because when you hear 
first or last that is the one that is in focus. If you will notice, when it 
says mobile voice over also says to double tap to get other options. I hope 
this helps.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2013, at 4:08 PM, jean parker  wrote:

> Hello All:
> I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
> Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through the 
> letter headings is annoying.  
> My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add contacts 
> thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a photo.  
> Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  Somehow 
> when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the first name 
> in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.  Next comes 
> company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put someone's mobile 
> number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels If I cancel this and 
> return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile phone text field that was 
> not there previously.  This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then 
> when I return to the add contact screen once again I have to go all the way 
> to the done field in order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a 
> better way.
> Jean
> 
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-14 Thread Alex Hall
My thoughts are that it depends. I used Bootcamp when I started with the Mac, 
and installed a boot manager that let me just hit w or m to boot into windows 
or mac. It was great, since I needed to know not a single mac command to use 
windows, whereas a virtual machine solution requires you to be able to at least 
launch it in mac first. That said, I had no official training so had to rely on 
this list and twitter to learn everything about the mac. Since I still needed 
to use my computer on a daily basis, and since the mac was my only machine, I 
felt that being able to use native windows would be the best solution for me, 
until I was either comfortable with the mac or decided it was not for me and 
stuck with only windows. Needless to say, I got used to the mac and now hardly 
ever boot windows, and am looking into replacing my bootcamp setup with a vm 
solution.

If you are close to an Apple Store, you could go in there and get help, 
especially in the first thirty days while your machine is still under warranty. 
So, since you have access to help, I think a virtual machine solution is 
better: no partitioning of the hard drive, not needing to shut down to do 
something in the other OS, and you can even run a vm of win7 and one of win8, 
or a linux distro, if you wanted to.

None of this is final, too - if you bootcamp now, you can also use a vm 
solution and erase your bootcamp later, or vice versa.

As to virtual machine applications, I have no information on Parallels, but I 
know Fusion is accessible. Virtualbox, another program, is not very accessible, 
but it can be used. However, I had sound problems when I tried to use it, so 
i'd stay away from that one. Really, Fusion seems the best option, unless (as 
another poster said) Parallels has been updated to be accessible.

Please don't hesitate to ask questions about the mac as you learn it. We are 
all here to help, and some of us are even happy to talk to you on the phone or 
skype if necessary.
On Jun 14, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi Zoey,
> 
> I myself am using Fusion, and it's the most wonderful solution for accessing 
> Windows programs along with your mac ones. Bootcamp requires some sighted 
> help to set up, unless you can find a guide to help you, which I honestly 
> still wouldn't recommend.
> As far as Parallels, that's completely inaccessible, the last time i heard 
> anything, but they may have changed. A lot of people on this list use VmWare 
> Fusion.
> 
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 6:45 PM, zoe  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I am thinking about getting a base  iMac. I am thinking about 
>> getting a fusion drive and running Windows 8. I have been using windows for 
>> 13 years and IM a little afraid to convert to the Mac. I use an iPhone, and 
>> that has opened up a new world for me. The accessibility that I have gotten  
>> with voice over in my humble opinion, is excellent. Even though I love my 
>> iPhone, the truth of the matter is I am used to windows. Having said all 
>> this I really want to make the transition to Mac I believe that I can learn 
>> a lot, and I also further believe that my experience will be great. Here is 
>> where I need everybody's feedback. The person who assessed me for my new 
>> computer suggested I use Boot Camp which comes with the Mac computer. a 
>> second person later on suggested that I use fusion because it is easier to 
>> toggle between windows and the mac side. When I went to the Apple Store the 
>> gentleman who helped me, a very very nice man and knowledgeable invoice over 
>> told me I should not go with boot camp or fusion, but I should go with 
>> something called parallel. What do you all suggest. I would like to know the 
>> differences between Boot Camp fusion and parallel what will be the best for 
>> me to run what is most accessible?  Does it even matter? Should I be putting 
>> so much thought into this? Any advice would be appreciated so so much thank 
>> you all for taking the time to read my mail and thank you in advance for 
>> giving me advice if you can. Regards Zoe
>> 
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-14 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi Zoey,

I myself am using Fusion, and it's the most wonderful solution for accessing 
Windows programs along with your mac ones. Bootcamp requires some sighted help 
to set up, unless you can find a guide to help you, which I honestly still 
wouldn't recommend.
As far as Parallels, that's completely inaccessible, the last time i heard 
anything, but they may have changed. A lot of people on this list use VmWare 
Fusion.

On Jun 14, 2013, at 6:45 PM, zoe  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I am thinking about getting a base  iMac. I am thinking about 
> getting a fusion drive and running Windows 8. I have been using windows for 
> 13 years and IM a little afraid to convert to the Mac. I use an iPhone, and 
> that has opened up a new world for me. The accessibility that I have gotten  
> with voice over in my humble opinion, is excellent. Even though I love my 
> iPhone, the truth of the matter is I am used to windows. Having said all this 
> I really want to make the transition to Mac I believe that I can learn a lot, 
> and I also further believe that my experience will be great. Here is where I 
> need everybody's feedback. The person who assessed me for my new computer 
> suggested I use Boot Camp which comes with the Mac computer. a second person 
> later on suggested that I use fusion because it is easier to toggle between 
> windows and the mac side. When I went to the Apple Store the gentleman who 
> helped me, a very very nice man and knowledgeable invoice over told me I 
> should not go with boot camp or fusion, but I should go with something called 
> parallel. What do you all suggest. I would like to know the differences 
> between Boot Camp fusion and parallel what will be the best for me to run 
> what is most accessible?  Does it even matter? Should I be putting so much 
> thought into this? Any advice would be appreciated so so much thank you all 
> for taking the time to read my mail and thank you in advance for giving me 
> advice if you can. Regards Zoe
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Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-14 Thread zoe
Hi everyone, I am thinking about getting a base  iMac. I am thinking about 
getting a fusion drive and running Windows 8. I have been using windows for 13 
years and IM a little afraid to convert to the Mac. I use an iPhone, and that 
has opened up a new world for me. The accessibility that I have gotten  with 
voice over in my humble opinion, is excellent. Even though I love my iPhone, 
the truth of the matter is I am used to windows. Having said all this I really 
want to make the transition to Mac I believe that I can learn a lot, and I also 
further believe that my experience will be great. Here is where I need 
everybody's feedback. The person who assessed me for my new computer suggested 
I use Boot Camp which comes with the Mac computer. a second person later on 
suggested that I use fusion because it is easier to toggle between windows and 
the mac side. When I went to the Apple Store the gentleman who helped me, a 
very very nice man and knowledgeable invoice over told me I should not go with 
boot camp or fusion, but I should go with something called parallel. What do 
you all suggest. I would like to know the differences between Boot Camp fusion 
and parallel what will be the best for me to run what is most accessible?  Does 
it even matter? Should I be putting so much thought into this? Any advice would 
be appreciated so so much thank you all for taking the time to read my mail and 
thank you in advance for giving me advice if you can. Regards Zoe

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Re: ABBY Fine Reader Question

2013-06-14 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Ann,

Finally got ABBY to scan for some reason the Twain setting din't scan but when 
I changed it to the other I got it to scan. I guess I will have to play around 
with it a little as far as settings to see if I can get things set up to 
quickly scan and OCR. Thanks again
On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Brian,
> 
> You should be able to connect your scanner to your Mac, then launch ABBYY 
> Finereader and your scanner should show up in the table of sources. Select 
> your scanner then click the Convert to text button or whichever task you want.
> 
> My Canon Lide 110 shows up twice in the table, once for its twain driver and 
> the second time with something labelled ICA. Both work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 19:06, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey listers,
>> 
>> I just installed the trial of ABBY Fine REader, and please forgive my 
>> ignorance on this. I am assuming that I scan my mail the same way using my 
>> Canoscan and it's software, and when the scan is finished I then open the 
>> scan in ABBY Fine REader and either choose convert to text document or 
>> another option? Is this how the software works? Does the OCR some how make 
>> better use of the recognition than the Canon software. Meaning if something 
>> comes through garbled in the original Canoscan that ABBY Fine Reader's OCR 
>> can make sense of it? Just tried a practice document and yes, it was easier 
>> to read in ABBY fine reader but want to comprehend how it works, and not 
>> sure if the scan came through ok with Canoscan on this one. I would have 
>> thought you would use ABBY to scan the document therefore cutting out the 
>> mistakes Canoscan's poor OCR would make with the initial scan. Thanks.
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Re: ABBY Fine Reader Question

2013-06-14 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Ann,

Like everything I seem to be having a problem. I found the drop down box to 
select the Canon Twain Driver which I did than I pressed the convert to text 
document, and all of the sudden I have no windows in ABBY Fine Reader. Do you 
think having the Canon software hooked to scan when I press the buttons on 
front of the physical scanner might be conflicting with Fine REader? Might it 
be an either or type thing regarding which software you use? Thanks
On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Brian,
> 
> You should be able to connect your scanner to your Mac, then launch ABBYY 
> Finereader and your scanner should show up in the table of sources. Select 
> your scanner then click the Convert to text button or whichever task you want.
> 
> My Canon Lide 110 shows up twice in the table, once for its twain driver and 
> the second time with something labelled ICA. Both work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 19:06, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey listers,
>> 
>> I just installed the trial of ABBY Fine REader, and please forgive my 
>> ignorance on this. I am assuming that I scan my mail the same way using my 
>> Canoscan and it's software, and when the scan is finished I then open the 
>> scan in ABBY Fine REader and either choose convert to text document or 
>> another option? Is this how the software works? Does the OCR some how make 
>> better use of the recognition than the Canon software. Meaning if something 
>> comes through garbled in the original Canoscan that ABBY Fine Reader's OCR 
>> can make sense of it? Just tried a practice document and yes, it was easier 
>> to read in ABBY fine reader but want to comprehend how it works, and not 
>> sure if the scan came through ok with Canoscan on this one. I would have 
>> thought you would use ABBY to scan the document therefore cutting out the 
>> mistakes Canoscan's poor OCR would make with the initial scan. Thanks.
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Re: contacts manager in i phone

2013-06-14 Thread Danny Noonan
All things new iOS users deel with. Please don't think me patronising but 
frustration slows down the learning curve quite a lot. Everything is rational 
and accessible but not expected or in a manner most of us expect. ESP people 
like me from a windows background. 

The first thing to remember is that each field you want to add or change 
information in has to be made active like entering into forms mode in jfw. 
Touch a field like last name and then lift your finger and tap twice anywhere 
on the screen and this will activate the field. Touch to highlight the field or 
controll then 1 finger double tap to start editing. Sounds like your trouble is 
you don't do this again on the next field. The way to know an edit field is 
activated is when you touch the field it will say the field name followed by is 
editing. Eg in my mail message the subject says subject text field. Double tap 
to edit but the message body says message body text field editing. 

Some times you will find a back next and done button just above the keyboard. 
Think of them as shift tab tab and ok. Back and next will move you back and 
forth through the fields making your current field active automatically. Done 
Is pretty self explanatory. It's an ok button 
 for the mobile button, I don't know anyone who didn't think it was for putting 
in the number. Me and my friends sure did.  Smile. This is a button you can 
press to get a list of number types. There labels but in the case of iPhone, if 
someone has iPhone set for their number you can automatically send them 
iMessages saving SMS charges plus use FaceTime etc. not esenchal but very 
handy.  


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 15/06/2013, at 7:08 AM, jean parker  wrote:

> Hello All:
> I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
> Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through the 
> letter headings is annoying.  
> My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add contacts 
> thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a photo.  
> Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  Somehow 
> when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the first name 
> in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.  Next comes 
> company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put someone's mobile 
> number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels If I cancel this and 
> return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile phone text field that was 
> not there previously.  This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then 
> when I return to the add contact screen once again I have to go all the way 
> to the done field in order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a 
> better way.
> Jean
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Re: Blogging

2013-06-14 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Nicholas,

I assume when you say has it already been OCR you mean do I have to do anything 
extra to read it, if that is the question, than no, I just put the piece of 
mail on the scanner, press the scan button in the physical scanner, and the 
software cannon provided with the scanner scans the document and opens it in 
Preview. Of course this is where the problem lies as sometimes the scans come 
through garbled so I think the OCR is not fantastic. I have been playing around 
with ABBY Fine Reader a little and think that might be the option for me, as it 
looks like ABBY might have better OCR than the Canon software on the occasion 
where I need the scan to come out perfect for an account number or phone 
number. A lot of the time, the Canon software does the trick as I just need to 
know what the piece of mail is. Hope this answers your question, if not let me 
know.
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Re: downloading or safari issue

2013-06-14 Thread Maria & Joe Chapman
HI it crashes randomly and it only started doing it when I decided to give 
crome vox a try.  


Maria Chapman
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"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 14/06/2013, at 11:25 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there anything you're doing when it crashes or does it crash randomly?  
> Does it crash on startup or at some other time?  Are you using VO alone with 
> Chrome or are you using ChromeVox?
> 
> Sorry, I just need more info to do a good job helping.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-06-14, at 12:32 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  crome tends to crash on me.  any suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Chapman
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
>> Mahatma Gandhi
>> 
>> On 14/06/2013, at 2:01 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This sort of problem tends to happen when Web-Developers use fancier links 
>>> that VO doesn't seem to handle well.  I'm guessing that your focus on the 
>>> link was fine since when you pressed Option-return, it started the download 
>>> fine.  I'm not convinced that Chrome or Firefox on the Mac would have 
>>> handled it much differently.  Firefox is hundreds of times better than it 
>>> was a year ago but still has some issues so I do find it frustrating to use 
>>> most of the time.  Chrome with ChromeVox is actually quite nice, especially 
>>> in Google Apps environments but the ChromeVox Users Guide does suggest 
>>> pressing return on links which is actually the MacOS handling the action, 
>>> not ChromeVox or VO.
>>> 
>>> Interesting suggestion when I've not heard of very many VO users actually 
>>> using Firefox or Chrome particularly often.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-06-13, at 9:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, Tim, et al. This is the message Ray made reference too which makes 
 your help much more appreciated.
 From Philip at CNIB
> Hi Kerri,
>  
> It is of course completely up to you if you want to use a new browser but 
> I know we have clients using Firefox and Chrome. At this stage if you try 
> out one of these browsers and it works for you then we may be able to 
> isolate the problem to Safari, or your particular installation of Safari.
>  
> You are using Voiceover correct? Given what you are downloading it 
> definitely sounds like you are not hitting the actual Download link. 
> There was a time where our JAWS users on our old site where trying to 
> download books and ended up downloading the web page instead. It was 
> because the focus of their screenreader was not on the actual link. Is 
> there anything you can do to confirm that your screenreader is focused on 
> the Download link before you select it?
>  
> Thanks,
> Philip Springall
 
 On 2013-06-13, at 12:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> What did you press when attempting to start the download?  I've found 
> that sometimes either pressing Return or Option-return works on some 
> sites.  Return simply activates the link whereas Option-return starts to 
> download whatever is attached to that link.
> 
> I haven't used the CNIB site much as I used to find that the CNIB didn't 
> cater much to us folks that live in the sticks, nor did they know much 
> about the Mac.  That's probably not a fair comment now but it's how 
> things used to work years ago.  Anyway, I digress.
> 
> See if either of those suggestions help.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-06-13, at 12:25 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, all. I' trying to access the CNIB library in order to download 
>> books. When I click on the download link, rather than download the book, 
>> I have part of the website and the only assistance I received from the 
>> BNIB was to download google chrome. Any help would greatly be 
>> appreciated.
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Re: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

2013-06-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I am getting them on Monday.

Kawal.

On 14 Jun 2013, at 07:30 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone 
> conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The 
> reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for 
> different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it for 
> music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If 
> anybody's got some of these things, do you like them?
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
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Re: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

2013-06-14 Thread Danny Noonan
You can use them for music but can't expect hifi quality. For hearing VO whilst 
still being fully aware of your surroundings they are amazingly good. My 
brother and I use them for calls as well and if the mike is placed well then 
they work perfectly well. 

I find them great in meetings class rooms etc.   At first going from never 
wearing them to 4 to 8 hours in a day I tended to get the occasional headache 
but that was a bunch of extreme changes of which the conduction was a small 
part. 

I love them and for me there worth every penny and the battery life s amazing. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 15/06/2013, at 4:30 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone 
> conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The 
> reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for 
> different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it for 
> music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If 
> anybody's got some of these things, do you like them?
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
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Re: contacts manager in i phone

2013-06-14 Thread Alex Hall
My responses are in the below message.
On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:08 PM, jean parker  wrote:

> Hello All:
> I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
> Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through the 
> letter headings is annoying.  
> My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add contacts 
> thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a photo.  
> Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  Somehow 
> when I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the first name 
> in the first name field they both end up in the last name field.
Are you double tapping on each field in turn? Just flicking to the next field 
is not enough, you must then tap on it to edit it.

> Next comes company then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put 
> someone's mobile number I tap this and get some nonsense about labels
This is the place where you can label the phone number. If the contact only has 
a work and home number, you would hit the "mobile" button, choose work or home, 
then hit done.

> If I cancel this and return to the add contact dialogue I find a mobile phone 
> text field that was not there previously.
No, it was there all along, but when you get out of the labels screen you are 
automatically focused on the field to enter the number you just labeled.

> This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then when I return to the add 
> contact screen once again I have to go all the way to the done field in order 
> to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a better way.
What do you mean by "return"? Once you are adding the number, just touch the 
number field or the label button, then keep flicking right to enter additional 
information.
> Jean
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Re: want to learn more about do shell script?

2013-06-14 Thread Alex Hall
I personally like Awk in place of, or in addition to, Grep. Examine the code 
for the webpage and see if there is always some element or bit of text that 
appears just before the informaiton you want, then use Grep or Awk to get at 
that area. You might then parse further in the shell, or just use Applescript 
to strip away unnecessary information.
On Jun 14, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Traci  wrote:

> I haven't checked out those pages.  I found a manual online which listed a 
> bunch of definitions with curl.  No luck yet with grep.
> 
> Oops, no the webpage I pasted was the radio station's page.  On that page, 
> inside a frame, it always says what is currently playing.  That is the piece 
> of text I'd like to grab.
> 
> I'll check out your second suggestion, thanks.
> 
> Traci
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Not to overstate the obvious but have you checked the man pages for curl and 
>> grep? You might also want to check out the macport version of wget. What are 
>> you trying to scrape from the page you listed? I didn't notice the 
>> temperature on there.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 6/14/13 2:10 PM, Traci wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Can anyone point me in the correct direction to learn more about curl 
>>> commands and grep?  I've been googling, but I'm not getting very far.
>>> 
>>> I have the weather temp script, where I can now hit a keyboard shortcut and 
>>> the current temp is read out for me.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to create a similar script for a local radio station's now playing 
>>> website.  It is like a puzzle I can't quite figure out.
>>> 
>>> Any tips here?  I keep studying the current temp script, but I can't work 
>>> out how to change it into the now playing script.  :)
>>> 
>>> Here is the url I'm working with:
>>> http://www.king.org/pages/4399266
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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contacts manager in i phone

2013-06-14 Thread jean parker
Hello All:
I am having no end of trouble with the contacts manager on the i phone.
Finding a contact is ok for the most part although trying to slog through the 
letter headings is annoying.  
My current problem is how to add a contact.  When I open up the add contacts 
thing the first thing it wants to know is whether I want to add a photo.  
Whatever.  Then it has a field for last name and then first name.  Somehow when 
I try to enter the last name in the last name field ten the first name in the 
first name field they both end up in the last name field.  Next comes company 
then mobile button.  Thinking this is where I put someone's mobile number I tap 
this and get some nonsense about labels If I cancel this and return to the add 
contact dialogue I find a mobile phone text field that was not there 
previously.  This text field contains  a keypad I guess but then when I return 
to the add contact screen once again I have to go all the way to the done field 
in order to hopefully save the contact.  There has to be a better way.
Jean

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2013-06-14 Thread Orin
Seeing how i can subscribe with this email.

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Re: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

2013-06-14 Thread Phil Halton
I have a pair of AfterShockz Bluez bone conduction headphones and they work 
just fine since they are A2DP compliant. Since I don't use them anymore 
(don't have any need for them), they are for sale. I only used them for 
roughly one battery charge, so they're practically new. I'll ship them with 
the origional box and all accessories (hardshell carrying case and charging 
cable) anywhere in the US, outside the US the shipping costs make it 
prohibitive.


Contact me offlist at
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- Original Message - 
From: "Eugenia Firth" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 2:30 PM
Subject: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone


Hi guys
I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone 
conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The 
reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for 
different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it 
for music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If 
anybody's got some of these things, do you like them?

Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: VM Fusion question

2013-06-14 Thread Phil Halton
I have a bootcamp partition that is half my hard disk with Mac OSX taking 
the other half. I'd like to import the bootcamp into VMWare, but it's too 
big. I have a external firewire disk available. How can I go about doing the 
import, and then erasing the bootcamp partition once successfully imported? 
I'd like to have the VM on my hard disk, not on the external.


Also, do you run into windows and Office authorization problems when 
importing, or just when running the bootcamp from within VMWare? Is either 
method better/less problematic?


- Original Message - 
From: "matthew Dyer" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: VM Fusion question


Hi,

One thing you can do is place the machine you are running in full screan 
mode and yes my vmware takes over the keyboard when in fockus.


Matthew


On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

It is supposed to grab keyboard automatically.  If you can see the 
toolbar, try hitting option-tab a few times until you hear wineyes.  That 
usually works for me.  If it doesn't grab, try moving away from the Fusion 
window with command-tab and back again.  Then retry the option-tab thing 
again.
You can also try maximizing the window.  I think it is 
control-command-enter.  You can find it in one of the menus to be sure.


On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:

Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the 
startup Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows 
logon.  All I get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the 
window and give the keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.


On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014515.


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On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

Hi.
Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM Fusion question

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up
bootcamp without sighted assistance from
www.applevis.com



Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM

fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware 
on
the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant 
the

one I should use for Boot Camp?

Thanks
Bill



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Re: learning how to encode files to DAISY format

2013-06-14 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, Slau. I also posted the email to MacVisionaries yesterday, but I haven't 
received any replies yet. I might repost the email on the list and see if I can 
get any responses.
Katie
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  From: Slau 
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  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:14 PM
  Subject: Re: learning how to encode files to DAISY format


  Hi Katie,


  I think some folks over at the MacVisionaries email list would probably have 
more useful information on the subject. Unless somebody here can chime in, I 
think that'll be your best bet.


  Cheers,


  Slau


  On Jun 13, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Katie Zodrow wrote:


Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't to off topic. I'm planning on working at a 
recording studio in Northridge California soon. They produce video descriptions 
for TV networks, documentaries, online music videos and have worked on adding 
description to educational videos for classrooms. They will also be working on 
a proposal to get a contract for recording books and putting them in DAISY 
format for the NLS which should start this fall if everything goes well. I'm 
trying to figure out what the best software is for converting and encoding 
audio files to DAISY format. I went on wikipedia last night to learn what DAISY 
is and also browsed www.daisy.org. When I looked at the links for production 
and conversion tools, there's plenty of different software that you can 
download. I wasn't sure which software to look at that works well for encoding 
audio books for navigation and converting them in DAISY format. It looks like 
some of this software also works on Mac as well as Windows. I'm curious if the 
Mac versions are accessible with Voiceover.
Any help I can get on this would be very appreciated.
Thanks.
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Re: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

2013-06-14 Thread Ilkka Pirttimaa
I have tested many bone conduction headphones and AfterShokz is the best
ones I have used.
You need first decide if you want it with wires or wireless.

My suggestion with wires is
AfterShokz Sportz M2 -model. It has microphone too, so you can make phone
calls too and control Siri.

For wireless there is
AfterShokz Bluez -model. It is using bluetooth and it has microphone too.


On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Gigi,
>
> I have Aftershokz headphones and love them, especially when out using GPS
> on my iPhone. They're really comfortable and work well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 20:30, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>
> > Hi guys
> > I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone
> conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The
> reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for
> different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it
> for music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If
> anybody's got some of these things, do you like them?
> > Regards,
> > Gigi
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: want to learn more about do shell script?

2013-06-14 Thread Traci
I haven't checked out those pages.  I found a manual online which listed a 
bunch of definitions with curl.  No luck yet with grep.

Oops, no the webpage I pasted was the radio station's page.  On that page, 
inside a frame, it always says what is currently playing.  That is the piece of 
text I'd like to grab.

I'll check out your second suggestion, thanks.

Traci
On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Not to overstate the obvious but have you checked the man pages for curl and 
> grep? You might also want to check out the macport version of wget. What are 
> you trying to scrape from the page you listed? I didn't notice the 
> temperature on there.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 6/14/13 2:10 PM, Traci wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Can anyone point me in the correct direction to learn more about curl 
>> commands and grep?  I've been googling, but I'm not getting very far.
>> 
>> I have the weather temp script, where I can now hit a keyboard shortcut and 
>> the current temp is read out for me.
>> 
>> I'd like to create a similar script for a local radio station's now playing 
>> website.  It is like a puzzle I can't quite figure out.
>> 
>> Any tips here?  I keep studying the current temp script, but I can't work 
>> out how to change it into the now playing script.  :)
>> 
>> Here is the url I'm working with:
>> http://www.king.org/pages/4399266
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
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Re: Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

2013-06-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Gigi,

I have Aftershokz headphones and love them, especially when out using GPS on my 
iPhone. They're really comfortable and work well.

Cheers,

Anne


On 14 Jun 2013, at 20:30, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone 
> conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The 
> reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for 
> different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it for 
> music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If 
> anybody's got some of these things, do you like them?
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: VM Fusion question

2013-06-14 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

One thing you can do is place the machine you are running in full screan mode 
and yes my vmware takes over the keyboard when in fockus.

Matthew


On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> It is supposed to grab keyboard automatically.  If you can see the toolbar, 
> try hitting option-tab a few times until you hear wineyes.  That usually 
> works for me.  If it doesn't grab, try moving away from the Fusion window 
> with command-tab and back again.  Then retry the option-tab thing again.
> You can also try maximizing the window.  I think it is control-command-enter. 
>  You can find it in one of the menus to be sure.
> 
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the 
> startup Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows logon. 
>  All I get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the window and give 
> the keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.
> 
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
>> I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014515.
>> 
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>> Available in the Mac app store.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
>> bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VM Fusion question
>> 
>> You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
>> bootcamp without sighted assistance from
>> www.applevis.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
>> fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
>>> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
>> the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
>> one I should use for Boot Camp?
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill
>>> 
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Bone conduction your phones with iPhone

2013-06-14 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys
I bought BlindSquare for my iPhone yesterday. It recommends getting bone 
conduction your phones, and I found the ones on Amazon for aftershock. The 
reviews I read seemed somewhat mixed. But these people were using them for 
different things that I want to use them for. A lot of them were using it for 
music and phone calls. However, I want to hear GPS information on. If anybody's 
got some of these things, do you like them?
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: want to learn more about do shell script?

2013-06-14 Thread Chris Blouch
Not to overstate the obvious but have you checked the man pages for curl 
and grep? You might also want to check out the macport version of wget. 
What are you trying to scrape from the page you listed? I didn't notice 
the temperature on there.


CB

On 6/14/13 2:10 PM, Traci wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone point me in the correct direction to learn more about curl commands 
and grep?  I've been googling, but I'm not getting very far.

I have the weather temp script, where I can now hit a keyboard shortcut and the 
current temp is read out for me.

I'd like to create a similar script for a local radio station's now playing 
website.  It is like a puzzle I can't quite figure out.

Any tips here?  I keep studying the current temp script, but I can't work out 
how to change it into the now playing script.  :)

Here is the url I'm working with:
http://www.king.org/pages/4399266

Thanks,
Traci



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want to learn more about do shell script?

2013-06-14 Thread Traci
Hi all,

Can anyone point me in the correct direction to learn more about curl commands 
and grep?  I've been googling, but I'm not getting very far.

I have the weather temp script, where I can now hit a keyboard shortcut and the 
current temp is read out for me.

I'd like to create a similar script for a local radio station's now playing 
website.  It is like a puzzle I can't quite figure out.

Any tips here?  I keep studying the current temp script, but I can't work out 
how to change it into the now playing script.  :)

Here is the url I'm working with:
http://www.king.org/pages/4399266

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: ABBY Fine Reader Question

2013-06-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Brian,

You should be able to connect your scanner to your Mac, then launch ABBYY 
Finereader and your scanner should show up in the table of sources. Select your 
scanner then click the Convert to text button or whichever task you want.

My Canon Lide 110 shows up twice in the table, once for its twain driver and 
the second time with something labelled ICA. Both work.

Cheers,

Anne


On 14 Jun 2013, at 19:06, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey listers,
> 
> I just installed the trial of ABBY Fine REader, and please forgive my 
> ignorance on this. I am assuming that I scan my mail the same way using my 
> Canoscan and it's software, and when the scan is finished I then open the 
> scan in ABBY Fine REader and either choose convert to text document or 
> another option? Is this how the software works? Does the OCR some how make 
> better use of the recognition than the Canon software. Meaning if something 
> comes through garbled in the original Canoscan that ABBY Fine Reader's OCR 
> can make sense of it? Just tried a practice document and yes, it was easier 
> to read in ABBY fine reader but want to comprehend how it works, and not sure 
> if the scan came through ok with Canoscan on this one. I would have thought 
> you would use ABBY to scan the document therefore cutting out the mistakes 
> Canoscan's poor OCR would make with the initial scan. Thanks.
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Re: VM Fusion question

2013-06-14 Thread Barry Hadder
It is supposed to grab keyboard automatically.  If you can see the toolbar, try 
hitting option-tab a few times until you hear wineyes.  That usually works for 
me.  If it doesn't grab, try moving away from the Fusion window with 
command-tab and back again.  Then retry the option-tab thing again.
You can also try maximizing the window.  I think it is control-command-enter.  
You can find it in one of the menus to be sure.

On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:

Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the startup 
Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows logon.  All I 
get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the window and give the 
keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.

On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014515.
> 
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> Available in the Mac app store.
> 
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> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
> bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VM Fusion question
> 
> You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
> bootcamp without sighted assistance from
> www.applevis.com
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
> fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
>> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
> the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
> one I should use for Boot Camp?
>> Thanks
>> Bill
>> 
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Re: Reading PDF files in 10.8.4

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Hogue
That's a little annoying, since I like reading them a page at a time.

However, the PDF files read much much better -- thank goodness!

Cheers,

Harry

On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You can only read pdf files in continuous scroll with vo in 10.8.4.
> 
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> Does anyone have experience reading PDF files in Previous with ML 10.8.4?  
> Since updating yesterday or the day before I can't read any content in any 
> PDF file -- I only hear "Text," and can't read further.  Interestingly, text 
> navigation was supposed to have been improved.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts.  It might be a setting I need to change, as I'm 
> certain at least one or two of the PDF files I had on my computer I was able 
> to read, if badly, before this.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: VM Fusion question

2013-06-14 Thread Bill Holton
Thanks.  I am very close.  I got a bootcamp window to come up with the startup 
Window eyes message, but I can't get to it to enter my Windows logon.  All I 
get is the toolbar.  Is there a hotkey to maximize the window and give the 
keyboard control in the Windows area?  Thanks.

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> I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014515.
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> On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
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> Hi.
> Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
> bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VM Fusion question
> 
> You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
> bootcamp without sighted assistance from
> www.applevis.com
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
> fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
>> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
> the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
> one I should use for Boot Camp?
>> Thanks
>> Bill
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what's the current state of firefox accessibility with the latest version of mac os10

2013-06-14 Thread trahern culver
hey all does any one know the current state of firefox accessibility
with the latest version of mac os10?

your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards
trahern.

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ABBY Fine Reader Question

2013-06-14 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey listers,

I just installed the trial of ABBY Fine REader, and please forgive my ignorance 
on this. I am assuming that I scan my mail the same way using my Canoscan and 
it's software, and when the scan is finished I then open the scan in ABBY Fine 
REader and either choose convert to text document or another option? Is this 
how the software works? Does the OCR some how make better use of the 
recognition than the Canon software. Meaning if something comes through garbled 
in the original Canoscan that ABBY Fine Reader's OCR can make sense of it? Just 
tried a practice document and yes, it was easier to read in ABBY fine reader 
but want to comprehend how it works, and not sure if the scan came through ok 
with Canoscan on this one. I would have thought you would use ABBY to scan the 
document therefore cutting out the mistakes Canoscan's poor OCR would make with 
the initial scan. Thanks.

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Re: further to my screen sharing issue

2013-06-14 Thread John Panarese
You don't need screen sharing turned on in system preferences, but as Tim 
pointed out, it doesn't work for iMessages.  What you can do is use an AIM or 
Google or yahoo instant message account on both ends and it will work.


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> screen sharing was indeed turned off in system preferences
> .  Am I to understand that it is not necessary for this to be enabled?
> 
> 
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> 
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further to my screen sharing issue

2013-06-14 Thread Rhonda Hornbacher
Hi Mac Friends,

When I attempted to try out screen sharing in the messages application the 
screen sharing was indeed turned off in system preferences
.  Am I to understand that it is not necessary for this to be enabled?


Also when doing my test, I was using my Apple ID and so was the person I was 
attempting to screen share with. Do I need to change this?

Thanks again for all of your valuable assistance!

Have a fantastic day,
Rhonda

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Re: VM Fusion question

2013-06-14 Thread Barry Hadder
I think you can find what you are looking for here: 
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014515.

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On Jun 14, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

Hi.
Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM Fusion question

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
bootcamp without sighted assistance from
www.applevis.com



Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
> Hi.
> I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
one I should use for Boot Camp?
> Thanks
> Bill
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Re: Reading PDF files in 10.8.4

2013-06-14 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi,

You can only read pdf files in continuous scroll with vo in 10.8.4.

On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

hello,

Does anyone have experience reading PDF files in Previous with ML 10.8.4?  
Since updating yesterday or the day before I can't read any content in any PDF 
file -- I only hear "Text," and can't read further.  Interestingly, text 
navigation was supposed to have been improved.

Thanks for any thoughts.  It might be a setting I need to change, as I'm 
certain at least one or two of the PDF files I had on my computer I was able to 
read, if badly, before this.

Thanks,

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Reading PDF files in 10.8.4

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Hogue
hello,

Does anyone have experience reading PDF files in Previous with ML 10.8.4?  
Since updating yesterday or the day before I can't read any content in any PDF 
file -- I only hear "Text," and can't read further.  Interestingly, text 
navigation was supposed to have been improved.

Thanks for any thoughts.  It might be a setting I need to change, as I'm 
certain at least one or two of the PDF files I had on my computer I was able to 
read, if badly, before this.

Thanks,

Harry

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Re: Has anyone got experience with the elgato eyetv hybrid on the mac/ios and vo?

2013-06-14 Thread patricia solis
HI:

Yes, I"m currently using The El Gato eye Tv Hybrid tuner with my Imac. 
I've  been using it a  little over a year.  . Had  to have some sighted  
assistance  to set it up  but  after that is simple  to use when watching cable 
tv. there is some downs for it but nothing I don't mind. Works for me.




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> Hi, Well, in my search for a tv tuner for my macbook air with which i could 
> replace my old tv to watch analog cable tv on the mac i came across the 
> elgato eyetv hybrid. Has anyone used this tv tuner stick before in 
> combination with voiceover?
> Thanks,
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RE: VM Fusion question

2013-06-14 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.
Do you know which number podcast it is that helps with VM Fusion and
bootcamp?  I wasn't able to find it.  Thanks.


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Subject: Re: VM Fusion question

You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
bootcamp without sighted assistance from
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Chris

On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
> Hi.
> I am trying to use  my Boot Camp Windows installation to  create  VM
fusion virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on
the same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the
one I should use for Boot Camp?
> Thanks
> Bill
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Anne.

I used goggles with standscan yesterday, there was some creams which I could 
not find the barcodes on, nothing worked. At last I used standscan and talking 
goggles, If you lift your item a little inside the standscan it works pretty 
good. I would like, if the results where shown in braille, because it can be a 
little difficult to understand what talking goggles says.

Cheers Annie.
Den Jun 14, 2013 kl. 11:00 AM skrev Anne Robertson :

> Hello Nick,
> 
> I find that Talking Goggles doesn't really work for me with the StandScan 
> Pro, but it works great freehand in front of the kitchen window. It's in the 
> kitchen that I use it most to identify things like jars of pâté or pachaged 
> cold meats.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 10:46, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> Fantastic, thanks, Anne! You've given me the confidence and encouragement I 
>> need to go out and order myself one. I think it's going to make a big 
>> difference.
>> 
>> Have you had any luck using the StandScan with Talking Gogles or one of 
>> those video-based apps which automatically read the results aloud?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
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Re: downloading or safari issue

2013-06-14 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Is there anything you're doing when it crashes or does it crash randomly?  Does 
it crash on startup or at some other time?  Are you using VO alone with Chrome 
or are you using ChromeVox?

Sorry, I just need more info to do a good job helping.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-14, at 12:32 AM, Maria & Joe Chapman  wrote:

> Hi.  crome tends to crash on me.  any suggestions?
> 
> 
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
> Mahatma Gandhi
> 
> On 14/06/2013, at 2:01 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This sort of problem tends to happen when Web-Developers use fancier links 
>> that VO doesn't seem to handle well.  I'm guessing that your focus on the 
>> link was fine since when you pressed Option-return, it started the download 
>> fine.  I'm not convinced that Chrome or Firefox on the Mac would have 
>> handled it much differently.  Firefox is hundreds of times better than it 
>> was a year ago but still has some issues so I do find it frustrating to use 
>> most of the time.  Chrome with ChromeVox is actually quite nice, especially 
>> in Google Apps environments but the ChromeVox Users Guide does suggest 
>> pressing return on links which is actually the MacOS handling the action, 
>> not ChromeVox or VO.
>> 
>> Interesting suggestion when I've not heard of very many VO users actually 
>> using Firefox or Chrome particularly often.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-06-13, at 9:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Tim, et al. This is the message Ray made reference too which makes 
>>> your help much more appreciated.
>>> From Philip at CNIB
 Hi Kerri,
  
 It is of course completely up to you if you want to use a new browser but 
 I know we have clients using Firefox and Chrome. At this stage if you try 
 out one of these browsers and it works for you then we may be able to 
 isolate the problem to Safari, or your particular installation of Safari.
  
 You are using Voiceover correct? Given what you are downloading it 
 definitely sounds like you are not hitting the actual Download link. There 
 was a time where our JAWS users on our old site where trying to download 
 books and ended up downloading the web page instead. It was because the 
 focus of their screenreader was not on the actual link. Is there anything 
 you can do to confirm that your screenreader is focused on the Download 
 link before you select it?
  
 Thanks,
 Philip Springall
>>> 
>>> On 2013-06-13, at 12:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 What did you press when attempting to start the download?  I've found that 
 sometimes either pressing Return or Option-return works on some sites.  
 Return simply activates the link whereas Option-return starts to download 
 whatever is attached to that link.
 
 I haven't used the CNIB site much as I used to find that the CNIB didn't 
 cater much to us folks that live in the sticks, nor did they know much 
 about the Mac.  That's probably not a fair comment now but it's how things 
 used to work years ago.  Anyway, I digress.
 
 See if either of those suggestions help.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
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> books. When I click on the download link, rather than download the book, 
> I have part of the website and the only assistance I received from the 
> BNIB was to download google chrome. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
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Re: Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?

2013-06-14 Thread zoe
Thank you so much for the info. I have another question, and please accept my 
appologies if it seems like a stupid question.  When I change the language 
settings to Greek, and then I connect my phone and itunes automatically 
appears, is the hq language suppose to automatically download, or am I suppose 
to look for it somewhere to download?  I did the above, but it doesn't seem 
like anything happend, i searched around on the itunes but could not see 
anything for language options or downloads.  Nothing happend but that could 
also be because there isn't a hq voice available for the Greek.  What do you 
think?
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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?


Hi Jurgen and Zoe. Yes, you can only use the iPhone's voices that are built in 
to the iOS and unfortunately, you can only download one HQ voice at a time. 
Also, the device needs to be plugged in for a voice to download. So if you want 
the English voice, either Daniel, Samantha or Karen, you would have to either 
change your language or your region settings to get those voices. Likewise, if 
you wanted, in Jurgen's case, the German voice and in Zoe's case, the Greek 
language, you would have to change your language, plug the phone in and let it 
download. I hope that helped.

Shawn
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text-grabber vs. Prismo (was Almost perfect scan with Prizmo)

2013-06-14 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

Yesterday afternoon I was messing around with both these apps to try and figure 
out if one is better.  So far my results are inconclusive, I wasn't 100% happy 
with either scan.  I was just holding the phone in my hand, I was not using a 
StandScan Pro or Scanbox.  Just curious whether anyone else has done a 
side-by=side of these two apps, and if so, what you're thoughts are on the 
merits of one over the other.
Best,
Donna
On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Michael, the app we're discussing here is for iPhone and other IOS devices, 
> not for the Mac.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 11:54, Michael Marshall  wrote:
> 
>> hey,
>> just wondering can this program do PDF files? if so can it batch convert?
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
thanks for letting me know.
my serch for a batch OCR ap for mac continues.

Michael
On 14/06/2013, at 8:59 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Michael, the app we're discussing here is for iPhone and other IOS devices, 
> not for the Mac.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 11:54, Michael Marshall  wrote:
> 
>> hey,
>> just wondering can this program do PDF files? if so can it batch convert?
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Michael, the app we're discussing here is for iPhone and other IOS devices, not 
for the Mac.

Cheers,

Anne


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> hey,
> just wondering can this program do PDF files? if so can it batch convert?
> thanks
> 
> Michael

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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
just wondering can this program do PDF files? if so can it batch convert?
thanks

Michael
On 14/06/2013, at 6:46 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Fantastic, thanks, Anne! You've given me the confidence and encouragement I 
> need to go out and order myself one. I think it's going to make a big 
> difference.
> 
> Have you had any luck using the StandScan with Talking Gogles or one of those 
> video-based apps which automatically read the results aloud?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick,

I find that Talking Goggles doesn't really work for me with the StandScan Pro, 
but it works great freehand in front of the kitchen window. It's in the kitchen 
that I use it most to identify things like jars of pâté or pachaged cold meats.

Cheers,

Anne


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wrote:

> Fantastic, thanks, Anne! You've given me the confidence and encouragement I 
> need to go out and order myself one. I think it's going to make a big 
> difference.
> 
> Have you had any luck using the StandScan with Talking Gogles or one of those 
> video-based apps which automatically read the results aloud?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Nic
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
If the boxes were made of plastic rather than  what they are made of now i'd 
get one. 

On 14 Jun 2013, at 09:39 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Kawal,
> 
> There are two similar boxes to help with scanning using a smart phone. 
> There's StandScan Pro and ScanBox. The StandScan Pro is shipped from Hongkong 
> and the Scan Box comes from Australia. They both work on the same principle 
> of providing ideal lighting and positioning with no difficulty.
> 
> Someone who has both says that the StandScan Pro gives better results but I 
> can't speak from personal experience as I only have the StandScan Pro.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 14 Jun 2013, at 09:51, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Is it the same box that people were on about? The one you could get from 
>> Hong Kong?
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Fantastic, thanks, Anne! You've given me the confidence and encouragement I 
need to go out and order myself one. I think it's going to make a big 
difference.

Have you had any luck using the StandScan with Talking Gogles or one of those 
video-based apps which automatically read the results aloud?

Many thanks,

Nic

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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Kawal,

There are two similar boxes to help with scanning using a smart phone. There's 
StandScan Pro and ScanBox. The StandScan Pro is shipped from Hongkong and the 
Scan Box comes from Australia. They both work on the same principle of 
providing ideal lighting and positioning with no difficulty.

Someone who has both says that the StandScan Pro gives better results but I 
can't speak from personal experience as I only have the StandScan Pro.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Is it the same box that people were on about? The one you could get from Hong 
> Kong?

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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Is it the same box that people were on about? The one you could get from Hong 
Kong?

On 14 Jun 2013, at 01:14 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> I had doing some experimentation with Prizmo, and had mixed results. My 
> husband got me this box called scan box. He got it from Amazon. Using it, I 
> was able to get almost a perfect stand of a letter I got. True, the printing 
> was very good, but I also read a bill and was able to figure out who it was 
> from and how much it was. This box has a hole for the camera to go on, but 
> you do need page detection because I found out that if I didn't have it, the 
> camera would get covered up a little bit and mess up things so that it didn't 
> see a page. This box tends to keep the camera very still when you tell the 
> iPhone to take the picture.
> Regards,
> Gigi
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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick,

I've been using the StandScan Pro for about three months now and would highly 
recommend it.

My preferred OCR app for use with the StandScan Pro is TextGrabber + Translator 
which can handle three different languages at once and produces even better 
results than Prizmo.

I use both TextGrabber and Prizmo because Prizmo works better freehand than 
TextGrabber and situations arise where it isn't convenient to set up the 
StandScan or even carry it with me.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Have any of you tried StandScan? I've heard it's pretty good. I'm thinking 
> about trying it myself.

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Re: Almost perfect scan with Prizmo

2013-06-14 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Have any of you tried StandScan? I've heard it's pretty good. I'm thinking 
about trying it myself.

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Re: Accessibility of Safari and Rich Text Editors with VoiceOver

2013-06-14 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Chris. That looks good. I note their demo was using JAWS. I've noticed 
that JAWS does tend to work a bit better with rich text editors for me. I'd be 
worried that CKEditor might work well with JAWS, but not VoiceOver. I'm keen to 
try and encourage people to make their websites accessible for both windows and 
Mac screen readers. Hopefully CKEditor will be fine with VoiceOver though.

Re AJAX, the problem with this university website, as with Facebook, Gmail, 
Google Calendar and other AJAX sites I use, is that typically there is no 
announcement to indicate when and where a menu has popped up. There's no way to 
navigate quickly to the menu by heading or landmark or anything, so one is 
forced to fumble around through the whole site trying to find whether a menu 
has popped up and if so where. For instance, this university site has icons 
which VoiceOver reads as just plane text elements. If, however, you click on 
them a frame opens up at the bottom of the page. But VoiceOver doesn't say 
anything to indicate this. Moreover, there's files which appear as icons. A 
user needs to right click them to reveal a menu. this is not the browser or 
system menu. The web app has hijacked the system menu. Instead, an AJAX menu 
appears. However, the VO-SHIFT-M command of course does not work to reveal this 
menu. I had to route the mouse curser and then perform an actual control click. 
I don't think most VoiceOver users would think to do this without any 
instructions that there was right click options for those icons. Moreover, once 
the menu is revealed, there's no way to get rid of it with VoiceOver. You need 
to either choose one of the menu options, or click somewhere else on the screen 
and hope you don't click on something you didn't want to click on. So sure, 
this is all useable, but it's not user friendly. Plane HTML would be able to 
perform all these functions and it would be much more user friendly for screen 
reader users. Though it would, of course, not look as cool for sighted persons.

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