Re: night owl question

2013-06-17 Thread Danny Noonan
It's also easy and quite helpful to set up hotspots to automatically say which 
tab your in and how many characters are left when writing tweets. Well, it was 
last time I played with it. I don't seem to have time for twitter any more. Dam 
RealWorld. 

Danny:



On 16/06/2013, at 1:24 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Direct messages are in their own tab. Either cmd-right twice from the main 
> timeline tab, or press ctrl-3. Incidentally, mentions are one tab right of 
> the timeline, or ctrl-2, and, of course, the main timeline is ctrl-1. You 
> have other tabs, and can even make your own if you want to, though I have not 
> tried that yet.
> 
> To view a conversation, move to a tweet and press cmd-3. This changes your 
> current timeline to show all messages in the conversation; hit cmd-1 to 
> return to normal. By the way, cmd-2 shows a user view, which is recent tweets 
> from the user.
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> How do you view direct conversations and mentions in Night Owl?
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Re: For David and others: Resending A Look at ProTools part 4

2013-06-17 Thread Chris Gilland

Not a problem.

chris.

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Subject: RE: For David and others: Resending A Look at ProTools part 4



Thanks very much Chris.
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Subject: For David and others: Resending A Look at ProTools part 4

OK, upon request, here is part 4 again.

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/rrqvb5

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RE: For David and others: Resending A Look at ProTools part 4

2013-06-17 Thread David Tanner
Thanks very much Chris.
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OK, upon request, here is part 4 again.

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/rrqvb5

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Re: Is there another way to add music/media onto your i phone without using i tunes?

2013-06-17 Thread Ray Foret jr
I have another choice to offer.  Your friend could use something called 
Wondershare Mobile go for IOS.  That will cost $39.95 or so but it will let you 
get music on to and off from the Iphone nice and easy.

Just go to:

www.wondershare.com


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Well, your friend could buy music or other media from the iTunes Store on 
> their iOS device, then it would be downloaded directly to their device. They 
> can get audiobooks from audible, books from BookShare etcetera.
> 
> They could also use Dropbox or some other cloud syncing app to get media on 
> to their device. They might also be able to use PhoneDrive to transfer media 
> on to their device.
> 
> I think their life might be made a fair bit easier though if they just 
> learned to use iTunes. It's not as easy on Windows as it is on the Mac, but 
> it's useable. Basically there is no way to just view your iPhone in Windows 
> Explorer and copy and paste media on to it as you might do with other smart 
> phones. But hopefully the alternatives I mentioned above will be sufficient.
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Phil Halton

1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp
2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the 
boot sound
3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by 
bootcamp utility.
4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in 
installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to get 
into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the 
money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter on 
them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and 
read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the 
process go faster and easier.


After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp 
drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can 
install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks ready 
at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe

The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy.

the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp 
partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, If 
you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted 
partition and obviously won't work.


Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions from 
the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the 
website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in the 
windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to 
make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing.


BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and Jaws, 
That combo can't be beat for productivity work.


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From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Guys,

As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:

I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and 
despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote about 
most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the 
following reasons:


1.  Productivity and stability.  I need Windows to run as if it were the 
only operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS 
Word, Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as 
running Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner.  My work will soon be requiring 
me to have the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I edit, 
and all without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to 
converting from pages back to Word.


All-in-all, I think it is all very individual.  It sounds like if I want to 
use Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for my 
copy of Windows that I still have availabe through the Microsoft Store. 
Then basically it sounds like I should get someone with a little more 
computer knowledge than I have to get things up and running for me.  I also 
like the idea of using Boocamp so I don't have to worry about JAWS 
authorization problems -- authorize it once and I should be good to go, 
regardless if I create different user accounts on the Windows partition.


The process gets confusing because there are so many different things to 
consider.  For example, do I still need to remap an insert key when using 
Bootcamp, or do the Bootcamp drivers take care of those issues for me with a 
laptop keyboard?  Also, I like the idea of holding down the option key and 
selecting the operating system at the boot screen -- is it difficult to knwo 
when to hold the option key down or how long to hold it down for?


Thanks for your thoughts.  I wonder if people at an Apple Store woudl be 
able to help me with the Bootcamp installation.


Thanks,

Harry

On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi Phil,
Yes you did say no cd/dvd drive on the iMac. I didn't look at the hard 
drive spec for all flavors of iMac. I looked at the cheapest 21-inch 
model, and in the configuration section, it is listed as 5400 rpm, and 
then there are upgrade choices, including a fusion drive and various sizes 
of ssd. They don't say if the fusion drive is also based on that 5400 rpm 
drive or not. Maybe it is a misprint?? Since I have a monitor, keyboard 
and magic track pad, I'm thinking the mewer mini that starts at 800 bucks 
is a better way to go than the iMac, although the greater ram possibility 
in the iMac is a good argument for that one for future proofing, I 
suppose.


Mary


Mary Otten
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Re: Is there another way to add music/media onto your i phone without using i tunes?

2013-06-17 Thread John Schucker

1. This costs money, if that's an issue.

2. I haven't tried it.

3. It only works on windows.

4. I assume it can put media on, but like I said, I haven't tried it.

http://www.techhive.com/article/260613/iexplorer_puts_you_in_control_of_your_ios_device.html

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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
You enable developer settings in preferences, then go to the developer menu and 
choose your desired browser from the "user agent" submenu. Unfortunately, it 
does not work, for this site at least - I tried both Firefox versions (Mac and 
Windows). I might have to just go to Windows to do this...
On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> How is this done?
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> It might not just simply be an Apple problem. It might be the way the rich 
>> text areas are coded. But yes, many do seem to have problems with VoiceOver. 
>> Often the same rich text areas work fine with Windows screen readers. I'd 
>> suggest getting Safari to emulate Firefox. This makes the rich text areas 
>> display as regular text fields. So you lose any rich formatting, but it 
>> works fine with VoiceOver.
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Christine Grassman
How is this done?
On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> It might not just simply be an Apple problem. It might be the way the rich 
> text areas are coded. But yes, many do seem to have problems with VoiceOver. 
> Often the same rich text areas work fine with Windows screen readers. I'd 
> suggest getting Safari to emulate Firefox. This makes the rich text areas 
> display as regular text fields. So you lose any rich formatting, but it works 
> fine with VoiceOver.
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Christine Grassman
I faced these the other day on a web site, which uses rich text edit areas for 
all of their posting areas. I was able to type into the edit area, but then 
when I attempted to post, VO was not behaving properly and I could not figure 
out where the post button was. Also, when I tried to get back into the text 
area, I couldn't. It was exceedingly frustrating. I gave up, and wrote to the 
moderator of the site, but I don't know what will come of it.
Christine

On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I'll try it. However, I was unable even to paste, which seems very odd. I 
> wonder if this is a browser problem or a Voiceover problem? Either way, Apple 
> needs to know about it, or at least be reminded.
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Hello alex,
>> 
>> Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO.  The work-around I have found 
>> is to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it 
>> into the rich text edit area after interacting with the area.  If you turn 
>> QuickNav off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but 
>> you are unable to move by word, character, etc.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Harry
>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
>>> area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, 
>>> no commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using 
>>> these edit controls? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
It might not just simply be an Apple problem. It might be the way the rich text 
areas are coded. But yes, many do seem to have problems with VoiceOver. Often 
the same rich text areas work fine with Windows screen readers. I'd suggest 
getting Safari to emulate Firefox. This makes the rich text areas display as 
regular text fields. So you lose any rich formatting, but it works fine with 
VoiceOver.

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Re: Is there another way to add music/media onto your i phone without using i tunes?

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Well, your friend could buy music or other media from the iTunes Store on their 
iOS device, then it would be downloaded directly to their device. They can get 
audiobooks from audible, books from BookShare etcetera.

They could also use Dropbox or some other cloud syncing app to get media on to 
their device. They might also be able to use PhoneDrive to transfer media on to 
their device.

I think their life might be made a fair bit easier though if they just learned 
to use iTunes. It's not as easy on Windows as it is on the Mac, but it's 
useable. Basically there is no way to just view your iPhone in Windows Explorer 
and copy and paste media on to it as you might do with other smart phones. But 
hopefully the alternatives I mentioned above will be sufficient.

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Is there another way to add music/media onto your i phone without using i tunes?

2013-06-17 Thread chenelle hancock
Hello everyone,

I  wanted to know if there were another  way to import  music onto your i phone 
5 other than  using  I Tunes?
I have a friend that is a new I phone user and  they  own a windows computer. 
They also use jaws but have never used Itunes before. They wanted to transfer 
their  music library  to their  i phone 5 but without  having to use i tunes of 
course. so is there a way to do this or will  they just have to  learn how to 
use itunes?
thank  you so much for your time and help i mostly greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPad

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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
I'll try it. However, I was unable even to paste, which seems very odd. I 
wonder if this is a browser problem or a Voiceover problem? Either way, Apple 
needs to know about it, or at least be reminded.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hello alex,
> 
> Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO.  The work-around I have found is 
> to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it 
> into the rich text edit area after interacting with the area.  If you turn 
> QuickNav off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but 
> you are unable to move by word, character, etc.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Harry
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
>> area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no 
>> commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these 
>> edit controls? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Hogue
Hello alex,

Rich edit areas are notoriously bad with VO.  The work-around I have found is 
to type your text in TextEdit or another word processor and then paste it into 
the rich text edit area after interacting with the area.  If you turn QuickNav 
off and arrow up and down you can see that your text is there but you are 
unable to move by word, character, etc.

HTH,

Harry
On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
> area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no 
> commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these 
> edit controls? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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rich text edit areas and VO?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I am trying to fill out a form, and one part is some kind of rich text edit 
area. I can interact with it, but Voiceover does nothing - I cannot type, no 
commands like cmd-v seem to work, nothing. Is there a trick to using these edit 
controls? Thanks.


Have a great day,
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Launch Bar updated, better VO support

2013-06-17 Thread Traci
Hi all,

I thought I'd report on Launch Bar's further development and support with 
voiceover.  Voiceover will now speak items instead of depending on mac's spoken 
feedback.  Here is the link and more details via the release notes.

http://www.obdev.at/products/launchbar/releasenotes5.html

Enjoy! I have been loving this app.

Traci

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Harry Hogue
Hello Guys,

As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:

I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and despite 
the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote about most 
recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the following 
reasons:

1.  Productivity and stability.  I need Windows to run as if it were the only 
operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS Word, 
Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as running 
Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner.  My work will soon be requiring me to have 
the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I edit, and all 
without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to converting from 
pages back to Word.

All-in-all, I think it is all very individual.  It sounds like if I want to use 
Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for my copy 
of Windows that I still have availabe through the Microsoft Store.  Then 
basically it sounds like I should get someone with a little more computer 
knowledge than I have to get things up and running for me.  I also like the 
idea of using Boocamp so I don't have to worry about JAWS authorization 
problems -- authorize it once and I should be good to go, regardless if I 
create different user accounts on the Windows partition.

The process gets confusing because there are so many different things to 
consider.  For example, do I still need to remap an insert key when using 
Bootcamp, or do the Bootcamp drivers take care of those issues for me with a 
laptop keyboard?  Also, I like the idea of holding down the option key and 
selecting the operating system at the boot screen -- is it difficult to knwo 
when to hold the option key down or how long to hold it down for?

Thanks for your thoughts.  I wonder if people at an Apple Store woudl be able 
to help me with the Bootcamp installation.

Thanks,

Harry

On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Hi Phil,
> Yes you did say no cd/dvd drive on the iMac. I didn't look at the hard drive 
> spec for all flavors of iMac. I looked at the cheapest 21-inch model, and in 
> the configuration section, it is listed as 5400 rpm, and then there are 
> upgrade choices, including a fusion drive and various sizes of ssd. They 
> don't say if the fusion drive is also based on that 5400 rpm drive or not. 
> Maybe it is a misprint?? Since I have a monitor, keyboard and magic track 
> pad, I'm thinking the mewer mini that starts at 800 bucks is a better way to 
> go than the iMac, although the greater ram possibility in the iMac is a good 
> argument for that one for future proofing, I suppose.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: iTunes match

2013-06-17 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
I had to resend it. He received it on the second go around.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hmmm.  I've only did the Gift Certificate thing once or twice and don't 
> remember exactly how long it took for the recipient to receive it.  I thought 
> that it was more or less instantaneous other than if you were specific about 
> when it was to be sent.
> 
> The iTunes Store should send you a receipt for the gift too.  Wait a little 
> bit then if they don't receive anything, give the iTunes Store Support number 
> a call.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-06-16, at 9:01 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> I purchased a gift cirtificut, and he hasn't received it yet.
>> On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don't believe so, but you can purchase a Gift Certificate through the 
>>> iTunes Store that is eMailed to the recipient.  The Gift Certificate 
>>> usually can be used for anything in the iTunes or App Stores and thus be 
>>> able to be used for iTunes Match subscriptions since it just is a charge to 
>>> your Apple ID account.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2013-06-15, at 2:46 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
 Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
 
 
 Chris
 
 On 15/06/2013 21:43, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> Hi:
> Does anyone know if you can gift an iTunes match subscription?
> 
 
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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Kimberly thurman
I ordered this.  After I upgraded to ML, my version 3 of Fusion no longer 
worked.  I downloaded version 5 and used a 30-day trial, but just never paid to 
upgrade.  I'm glad I saw this before I paid for the upgrade.  I suppose this 
will come with the codes necessary to authorize Fusion version 5?  

I'm planning to get a new Macbook Air to replace my mid 2009 13 inch MBP some 
time in the future as well, but I do like the option to be able to run windows 
if I want or need to.

I'll be interested to see how everyone gets on with this.

Best,

Kim
On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Fusion is normally $50 i believe, but Dell has a DVD of the program for only 
> $15! I don't know if this is a sale and, if so, how long it will last, so if 
> you need Fusion (as I do), go grab it now! Here is the link:
> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Seems it's only possible to get PDFs into iBooks Author by copying and pasting 
the text. As the books I'm talking about are thousands of pages long this 
wouldn't really be feasible. Word and Pages documents can be imported into 
iBooks Author with each file becoming a new chapter. This is exactly what I'd 
want for PDFs. I might be able to OCR convert them to word documents and then 
import them, though this might get a little ugly. Will look into it more 
if/when I get an iPad.

In the meantime, I'd love to hear of any other ideas.

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Re: PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

2013-06-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nick,

Pages can create epub documents with a table of contents readable by iBooks. 
You'd need to copy the text from the PDFs into Pages then set all the headings 
to the correct levels. Pages can then create a table of contents and you can 
export the file to EPUB format.

Cheers,

Anne


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wrote:

> It's certainly worth looking into. Thanks, Tim! I guess for now that would 
> mean I could only read them on an iPad, which I don't yet have, but when 
> Mavericks comes out I'll be able to read them on my Mac too. Woot!
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Re: PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
It's certainly worth looking into. Thanks, Tim! I guess for now that would mean 
I could only read them on an iPad, which I don't yet have, but when Mavericks 
comes out I'll be able to read them on my Mac too. Woot!

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Re: PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

2013-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I've not tried this, but I wonder if iBooks Author would do this for you?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-17, at 11:13 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Dear listers,
> 
> Does anyone know whether it's possible, and if so how, to do any of the 
> following?
> 
> 1. Create an active table of contents for a PDF that works with iBooks? That 
> is, the PDF already has a table of contents, but it doesn't seem to work with 
> iBooks. Anyway to fix this?
> 
> 2. Create an eBook, either in ePub or PDF format, from several PDF files. I 
> have a number of PDF books which are broken into several parts – e.g. a file 
> for each chapter etcetera. If possible, I want to make these into one eBook 
> file with a working table of contents.
> 
> I wish there was something as simple as AudiobookBuilder but for eBooks.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nic
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Re: os on an external

2013-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I did some testing using this kind of scenario.  Your simple answer isn't 
exactly the right answer.  True, when you go to Software Update when running 
from the external, it only seems to want to update apps, but not the actual OS. 
 What I did to get around this, was, while running from MacOS on the external, 
eject any other volumes.  So, navigate to the internal HD, then press cmd-e to 
eject it.  Now, if you choose to run Software Update, whether on an external or 
internal HD, the updates will appear and be installable.  After the updates are 
done, you can either re-mount the ejected HD using Disk Utility or restart your 
Mac and it will be visible again.  I tend to have my Finder Prefs set to show 
connected everything on the Desktop as that's what I'm used to and I like 
accessing them from there instead of the Sidebar.  I imagine that you are able 
to eject specific HD's from the Sidebar as well, I just don't use that method.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-17, at 9:23 AM, Mark Furness  wrote:

> I have Lion on my internal drive and "mountain Lion" on an external.
> I can go to properties and my I Mac to start in either OS and it does.
> My question is why can I not update my mountain Lion but can the Lion?
> 
> A simple answer is you can not on a external.
> i will be purchasing Maverick. Should all Os's be on the internal drive?
> 
> Thank you for all your explanations and help to this confused user!
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PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Dear listers,

Does anyone know whether it's possible, and if so how, to do any of the 
following?

1. Create an active table of contents for a PDF that works with iBooks? That 
is, the PDF already has a table of contents, but it doesn't seem to work with 
iBooks. Anyway to fix this?

2. Create an eBook, either in ePub or PDF format, from several PDF files. I 
have a number of PDF books which are broken into several parts – e.g. a file 
for each chapter etcetera. If possible, I want to make these into one eBook 
file with a working table of contents.

I wish there was something as simple as AudiobookBuilder but for eBooks.

Cheers,
Nic

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Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks all for the responses. Using the function keys works perfectly, so 
thanks for that. Not sure what was going on in the display preferences. I've 
known screen brightness to have unusual effects on seemingly unrelated things 
before, so thought it might be something like that. Anyway, here's to longer 
battery life!
Cheers,
Nic

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Re: earpieces

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
HI Jean,
Ahh, well, maybe that's where I have been going wrong then. If you find out the 
procedure for disconnecting it properly as you say, can you please let me know?
Many thanks,
Nic

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread zoe
Thank you so much for the detailed instructions, I'm saving the messages to 
reference back.  So then desision made twenty seven inch base imac with 
upgraded ram with fusion regardless if I use bootcamp or not.  Sounds good 
to me.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


I don't recall if the iMacs still come with disk drives or not. If they 
don't, you will have a few extra steps to get bootcamp working using a thumb 
drive, or you can buy a USB disk drive and plug that in instead. I installed 
Bootcamp from a thumb drive, but I had a lot of sighted help. It sounds like 
you are leaning toward Fusion, though, and I have to say I think you'll be 
happier with that in the long run. It will be frustrating at first, but once 
you know its quirks, you should be okay.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 10:16 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> zoey,
>
> Bootcamp is set up by a program on the MAC called bootcamp assistant. That 
> program partitions the drive for you and starts the installation process 
> of Windows. That is, it partitions the drive then asks you to put the 
> windows disk in the CD drive, then reboots and begins the Windows 
> installation processIt also lets you download and burn the bootcamp 
> drivers onto a CD which you'll need after installing windows. These 
> bootcamp drivers let windows access the mac hardware etc. From the reboot 
> onward, you need sighted assistance to go through the windows install 
> screens, install the bootcamp drivers, and finally, get a screen reader 
> loaded into windows so you can take over from there. I had a semi-computer 
> literate friend sit here and read the screens to me as we installed 
> Windows - that's all - no need for high-priced tech assistance.
>
> Or,
>
> With fusion, you can just install windows into a VMWare Virtual machine 
> which is just a big file on the MAC file system - its not a separate 
> partition on the HD. As I understand it, installing windows into a virtual 
> machine in VMWare is accessible with VoiceOver.
>
> Thirdly, from within VMWare Fusion, you can import a previously installed 
> bootcamp partition into fusion and run it like any other virtual machine, 
> or just run the bootcamp partition version of windows without even 
> importing it into fusion.
>
> So, there's three different options
> 1) have a dual boot system, called bootcamping,  that requires rebooting 
> to go from one OS to the other.
> 2) create a windows virtual machine in fusion which doesn't require 
> partitioning the HD, and can be done without sighted assistance. or,
> 3) Either run, or import and run an existing bootcamp partition from 
> fusion .
>
> I'm not real sure about the difference between simply running a bootcamp 
> vs importing and running it from within Fusion, there's not much 
> difference I don't think.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "zoe" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>
>
>> Oh ok got it now.  One more question that I thought of and please accept 
>> my
>> appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them
>> scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking 
>> questions
>> as they come.  Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
>> partitioned but with fusion it would not?  Apple said for the 
>> partitioning
>> of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I 
>> half
>> to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down
>> the line?  I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
>> Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>>
>>
>> No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. 
>> Jaws
>> can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a
>> computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why 
>> no
>> screen reader can possibly be loaded.
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe  wrote:
>>
>>> h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple 
>>> add
>>> it
>>> on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
>>> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>>>
>>>
>>> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
>>> Apple
>>> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be 
>>> difficult
>>> to
>>> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot 
>>> Manager,
>>> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe  wrote:
>>>
 Oh 

Re: os on an external

2013-06-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

What happens when you try to update?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Mark Furness  wrote:

> I have Lion on my internal drive and "mountain Lion" on an external.
> I can go to properties and my I Mac to start in either OS and it does.
> My question is why can I not update my mountain Lion but can the Lion?
> 
> A simple answer is you can not on a external.
> i will be purchasing Maverick. Should all Os's be on the internal drive?
> 
> Thank you for all your explanations and help to this confused user!
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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Definitely more RAM or SSD storage.

Honestly, I don’t think most people would notice a difference between an I5 or 
I3 processor.  Especially on a Macbook air.  After all, the air selling point 
is extreme portability and battery life in an attractive package.  Raw power is 
secondary for most air owners.  I would say to get the RAM upgrade.  Especially 
since it is definitely not user replaceable.

hth

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On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Alex,
> I'm interested in your MBA that you're going to put two oses on. Is it one of 
> the new ones? How much storage and how much ram did you get or will you be 
> getting? I'm trying to decide which upgrades to a 13-inch air would be the 
> most bang for the buck, processor, ram or more ssd storage. I'm attracted by 
> the idea of using sdxc cards to extend the storage of a 128 mba, but you 
> couldn't do that with an os on the card, I don't imagine. 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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earpieces

2013-06-17 Thread jean parker
Hi Nick:
Assuming that bluetooth is already turned on, as soon as you connect the 
earpiece voiceover and all other audio come through the earpiece.  It is 
necessary to disconnect it properly to get voiceover to resume coming through 
the speakers of the computer.  Otherwise you get a bluetooth error message.  I 
have not quite figured out the procedure for disconnected it correctly, I will 
have to have someone look in the manual for that.  But I do know that you can 
not simply turn it off.  That will cause an error message.  
Jean

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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
The Air is from early this year, so it is not the newest. It is the 
lowest-powered model, with 4gb ram and a 64-gb ssd. No, I doubt an OS would run 
well from a card, but you could easily dump all your media on the card and save 
the room for your operating system. Personally, I'd go with 8gb of ram, but 
that's just me.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Alex,
> I'm interested in your MBA that you're going to put two oses on. Is it one of 
> the new ones? How much storage and how much ram did you get or will you be 
> getting? I'm trying to decide which upgrades to a 13-inch air would be the 
> most bang for the buck, processor, ram or more ssd storage. I'm attracted by 
> the idea of using sdxc cards to extend the storage of a 128 mba, but you 
> couldn't do that with an os on the card, I don't imagine. 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Phil,
Yes you did say no cd/dvd drive on the iMac. I didn't look at the hard drive 
spec for all flavors of iMac. I looked at the cheapest 21-inch model, and in 
the configuration section, it is listed as 5400 rpm, and then there are upgrade 
choices, including a fusion drive and various sizes of ssd. They don't say if 
the fusion drive is also based on that 5400 rpm drive or not. Maybe it is a 
misprint?? Since I have a monitor, keyboard and magic track pad, I'm thinking 
the mewer mini that starts at 800 bucks is a better way to go than the iMac, 
although the greater ram possibility in the iMac is a good argument for that 
one for future proofing, I suppose.

Mary


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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Mary Otten
Alex,
I'm interested in your MBA that you're going to put two oses on. Is it one of 
the new ones? How much storage and how much ram did you get or will you be 
getting? I'm trying to decide which upgrades to a 13-inch air would be the most 
bang for the buck, processor, ram or more ssd storage. I'm attracted by the 
idea of using sdxc cards to extend the storage of a 128 mba, but you couldn't 
do that with an os on the card, I don't imagine. 
Mary Otten
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os on an external

2013-06-17 Thread Mark Furness
I have Lion on my internal drive and "mountain Lion" on an external.
I can go to properties and my I Mac to start in either OS and it does.
My question is why can I not update my mountain Lion but can the Lion?

A simple answer is you can not on a external.
i will be purchasing Maverick. Should all Os's be on the internal drive?

Thank you for all your explanations and help to this confused user!

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Phil Halton
How does one configure VMWare to run optimally? Does the help system go into 
detail about this? I'm mean cores, memory, etc - all the settings that 
affect how the virtual machine will run etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Nick is correct, but if you have 8gb or more of ram you should be fine. 
Also, the Mac will only have less power while the VM is running; once you 
get used to the Mac and don't use Windows as much, you can close the vm 
while not in use and free up those resources.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:52 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
 wrote:


Yes, the new iMacs do not, I repeat, do not, come with CD drives. Of 
course you can buy an external disc drive that will connect via USB. Apple 
sells them for around $80 but you can probably get them cheaper elsewhere.


Also, just one note, while VM Fusion does have a lot of advantages over a 
duel boot system, the downside is, as I understand it, that you then have 
less power running that operating system. The quad core processors of the 
iMac should be able to handle this fairly well, but it might be another 
reason for upgrading the RAM. Particularly if you use any memory intensive 
applications. Otherwise, your computer is essentially running two 
operating systems at once and that, I'm guessing, is quite resource 
intensive. That said though, you might decide this is worth it for the 
simplicity of using the virtual machine (i.e. VM Fusion).


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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Yolanda

On 6/17/2013 9:12 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
I'd be interested to know how windows via fusion runs on a Mac Book 
Air. I'm wondering if its a little under powered for the job, or what 
upgrade specs on the air would be needed to do the job right.


BTW: I don't know why you'd be "sad to say" to have JAWs, In my 
opinion, its one of the very best screen readers out there - certainly 
for use with MS Office programs it can't be beat for accessibility. 
Its main drawback is its cost, and that its produced by an "evil" 
corporation.


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)


I plan to do the same on my Mini, but start fresh on my business Air. 
The Mini will have NVDA and all my programs, while the Air will (I'm 
sad to say) have Jaws, plus assorted programs for demonstrating to 
clients. This will be a good way to see the differences between the 
two methods.

On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

Alex, I just ordered the Fusion5 DVD from Dell. Nothing like a fire 
sale to get you moving on a project. Looks like we'll be comparing 
outcomes - I plan to use the existing bootcamp partion from Fusion5.



- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)


Yes, here's the link again. This is why I wish people would include 
the original message in replies...
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817 


On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:59 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

Alex, please let us/me know what you find. I'm in the market for 
VMWare Fusion too, and this price will get me off the fence if its 
the correct product. Where did you say you found it? Dell.com?


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)


It states that it is for OS10. I don't know why they are selling 
it, but I'm trying it out.

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

What's Dell doing selling a MAC version of VMWare? Of course, I 
know little about these things, but could that be a PC-based 
version of VMWare fusion? Will it run on a MAC?


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)



Hi all,
Fusion is normally $50 i believe, but Dell has a DVD of the 
program for only $15! I don't know if this is a sale and, if so, 
how long it will last, so if you need Fusion (as I do), go grab 
it now! Here is the link:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817 




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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Phil Halton
I'll like having the option to run a dual boot system with full resources 
available for each, but also being able to just run an occasional windows 
program from the MAC side when needed.


What is the best resource for learning how to operate VMWare? Is the help 
system sufficient?

?,
- Original Message - 
From: "Nicholas Parsons" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Yes, the new iMacs do not, I repeat, do not, come with CD drives. Of course 
you can buy an external disc drive that will connect via USB. Apple sells 
them for around $80 but you can probably get them cheaper elsewhere.


Also, just one note, while VM Fusion does have a lot of advantages over a 
duel boot system, the downside is, as I understand it, that you then have 
less power running that operating system. The quad core processors of the 
iMac should be able to handle this fairly well, but it might be another 
reason for upgrading the RAM. Particularly if you use any memory intensive 
applications. Otherwise, your computer is essentially running two operating 
systems at once and that, I'm guessing, is quite resource intensive. That 
said though, you might decide this is worth it for the simplicity of using 
the virtual machine (i.e. VM Fusion).


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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Phil Halton
I don't know where I read the review, but it was more concerning components 
such as processor etc rather than screen size. It would require a look at 
the specs of each to make a realistic determination.



- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel



Phil,
Interesting that the 27 inch iMac is seen as the better deal. But how much 
of that is based on the display, a factor that interest blind people not 
at all, unless, of course, you have enough vision to be able to take 
advantage of it.


Mary

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Phil Halton
I think I said that the hardware that was eliminated in the latest iMac 
configuration was "CD Drives", not "Hard Drives". That is really surprising 
about the 5400 drive speed


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Imacs do come with hard drives, or you can get the fusion drive or all flash 
storage, for a price, of course. What surprised me was that the iMac hard 
drive option is a 5400 rpm drive. †hat blew me away. I'd think they'd offer 
7200 rpm. But the Apple store site clearly has it as a 5400 rpm, like 
laptops and the Mac mini.


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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Phil Halton
I'd be interested to know how windows via fusion runs on a Mac Book Air. I'm 
wondering if its a little under powered for the job, or what upgrade specs 
on the air would be needed to do the job right.


BTW: I don't know why you'd be "sad to say" to have JAWs, In my opinion, its 
one of the very best screen readers out there - certainly for use with MS 
Office programs it can't be beat for accessibility. Its main drawback is its 
cost, and that its produced by an "evil" corporation.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)


I plan to do the same on my Mini, but start fresh on my business Air. The 
Mini will have NVDA and all my programs, while the Air will (I'm sad to say) 
have Jaws, plus assorted programs for demonstrating to clients. This will be 
a good way to see the differences between the two methods.

On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

Alex, I just ordered the Fusion5 DVD from Dell. Nothing like a fire sale 
to get you moving on a project. Looks like we'll be comparing outcomes - I 
plan to use the existing bootcamp partion from Fusion5.



- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)


Yes, here's the link again. This is why I wish people would include the 
original message in replies...

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817
On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:59 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

Alex, please let us/me know what you find. I'm in the market for VMWare 
Fusion too, and this price will get me off the fence if its the correct 
product. Where did you say you found it? Dell.com?


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)


It states that it is for OS10. I don't know why they are selling it, 
but I'm trying it out.

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

What's Dell doing selling a MAC version of VMWare? Of course, I know 
little about these things, but could that be a PC-based version of 
VMWare fusion? Will it run on a MAC?


- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)



Hi all,
Fusion is normally $50 i believe, but Dell has a DVD of the program 
for only $15! I don't know if this is a sale and, if so, how long it 
will last, so if you need Fusion (as I do), go grab it now! Here is 
the link:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817


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Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Nick,

Using the slider in Display Prefs, VO does hesitate a little on my MBP Late 
2011 but does not behave as badly as you've outlined.  Using the F1/F2 though 
causes no hesitation at all.  Actually, this is the first time I've ever used 
the slider in Display Prefs so wanted to check on your findings.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-17, at 8:33 AM, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> As others have said, I have not had these issues with any of my Macs either.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/17/13, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  wrote:
>> certainly do not have the issue on any of the Mac's I've owned or the ones I
>> do own now.
>> 
>> I use the F1 / F2 keys though to change the brightness.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
>> On 17 Jun 2013, at 08:01, Nicholas Parsons 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve
>>> battery power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's
>>> screen brightness in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the
>>> display pane of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen
>>> brightness slider, however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound
>>> kept cutting in and out almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a
>>> really bad phone line. Then I lost VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated
>>> right and turned automatically adjust screen brightness back on, and
>>> VoiceOver returned to me. However, when I would navigate back to the
>>> brightness slider VoiceOver would begin stutterring again.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just
>>> me?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nic
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Re: A Look at ProTools Part 1 has been uploaded

2013-06-17 Thread Chris Gilland

I didn't clame to be a good vocalest.  So, yeah...

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Katie Zodrow" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: A Look at ProTools Part 1 has been uploaded


Hi, Chris. Thanks for posting these podcasts about learning ProTools using 
Voiceover. I listened to part 1 of Kevin Reeves tutorial on PT a couple 
weeks ago and it was excellent! The more I can learn about using PT the 
better.

I'll listen to your first episode tomorrow.
By the way, I listened to your song Crayons on the Floor a few weeks ago 
and it was very beautiful! The only processing I would edit out is some of 
the auto tune on the vocals.

Katie

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:50 AM
Subject: A Look at ProTools Part 1 has been uploaded



Good morning, or evening everyone, depending on where you're located.

In the past, there has been a lot of discussion both on and off list 
about the accessibility and use of ProTools from an accessibility 
standpoint with Voiceover.  I've been asked to appear on certain podcasts 
and then due to things that were completely out of my control, I was 
unable to participate in those submitions.  This is going to be going out 
to a lot of places.  I'm hoping to put this link out on my Twitter, as 
well as my Facebook,


@gilland_chris

http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland

As well as my own personal podcast:

http://www.clgpodcast.net

This furthermore is in the process of being approved for an Applevis 
submition.


I plan to make this series as in depth as I possibly can make it, and as 
thorough as I can possibly make it as well.  We'll be talking about the 
use of ProTools, how to interact with the application using Voiceover, 
certain work arounds to things that might not be the most accessibly 
intuitive, as well as we'll also be learning about some crucially 
important sound production techniques/skills that you must be able to 
master in order to have the most optymal benefit from ProTools.  This is 
really big guys, as I know a lot of you all have wanted me to do this for 
quite some time, and now, I'm finally getting the time to do so.  Here's 
what I am going to say as far as other podcast interviews.  Let's wait, 
and let me get this whole series finished and out to you guys, and then 
once I've finished up the series, if at that point, you want to interview 
me, we'll talk.  I'm doing it this way, so that you'll up front have a 
working idea of my knowledge, as well as my style in how I present 
things.


So all this being said, here is the link to Part 1.  This recording runs 
just over half an hour.  I can't promise you that all the recordings are 
going to be this short, but this one will be.  Let's get some feedback. 
If you all want me to continue the series after hearing this, I'd be more 
than happy to!  I will admit that Kevin Reeves who is in the blind 
community has done an absolutely fantastic! couple of mp3 files which are 
quite in depth, however some people have said that they didn't really 
like his style.  I don't really know why that is, as I personally thought 
it was brilliant! but, whatever.  Each is to their own.  The other thing 
is, he only did maybe about 3 files all total.  What I! plan to do, is 
make this into a continuing series, and really get very serious about 
really showing you all the true power of this software.  I'm not only 
gonna cover the basics, but hopefully, over time, as the recordings 
progress, and we build off what you already know, we can actually begin 
to dive into more advanced parts of the program.


You all are gonna be a huge factor in what things I show you in these 
files. A lot of it will be crutial that I show you, but if there is 
anything specific that you want for me to show, please let me know, and 
I'll see what I can do.


OK.  So, here we go!  Here's the link for part 1.

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/wfvhz7

You guys let me know what you think, and we'll go from there.

Chris.
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Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread Cameron Strife
As others have said, I have not had these issues with any of my Macs either.




On 6/17/13, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  wrote:
> certainly do not have the issue on any of the Mac's I've owned or the ones I
> do own now.
>
> I use the F1 / F2 keys though to change the brightness.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
> URL: - www.talknav.com
> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>
> On 17 Jun 2013, at 08:01, Nicholas Parsons 
> wrote:
>
>> After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve
>> battery power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's
>> screen brightness in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the
>> display pane of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen
>> brightness slider, however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound
>> kept cutting in and out almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a
>> really bad phone line. Then I lost VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated
>> right and turned automatically adjust screen brightness back on, and
>> VoiceOver returned to me. However, when I would navigate back to the
>> brightness slider VoiceOver would begin stutterring again.
>>
>> Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just
>> me?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
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Re: mac equivalent for the 'my computer' in windows

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Arrigo

Try command shift c, I think that opens the computer window.
Original message:
Hi listers. What's the Mac equivalent of the windows 'my computer', and 
how do I get to it from desktop? Thanks.



Shane



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Re: further to my safari download question

2013-06-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

sure.  You can select the destination for downloads.  Open Safari then press 
command comma to open Safari preferences.  In the toolbar, make sure general is 
selected.  Now, navigate to the Save downloaded files to: pop up button.  By 
default, this should be set to downloads.  VO spacebar on the button and select 
other.  A browser window should appear where you can select the destination.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:45 AM, shane christenson  wrote:

> Hi folks. Using safari, is there a way to have it ask you where you want 
> things saved every time you click a download link on a web page, instead of 
> files being saved at a specific location? I know that i e on the pc, and 
> firefox for the pc used to do this, but I can find no option for this in 
> safari. Do the mac versions of firefox or gooogle chrome offer this option? 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
Nick is correct, but if you have 8gb or more of ram you should be fine. Also, 
the Mac will only have less power while the VM is running; once you get used to 
the Mac and don't use Windows as much, you can close the vm while not in use 
and free up those resources.
On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:52 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Yes, the new iMacs do not, I repeat, do not, come with CD drives. Of course 
> you can buy an external disc drive that will connect via USB. Apple sells 
> them for around $80 but you can probably get them cheaper elsewhere.
> 
> Also, just one note, while VM Fusion does have a lot of advantages over a 
> duel boot system, the downside is, as I understand it, that you then have 
> less power running that operating system. The quad core processors of the 
> iMac should be able to handle this fairly well, but it might be another 
> reason for upgrading the RAM. Particularly if you use any memory intensive 
> applications. Otherwise, your computer is essentially running two operating 
> systems at once and that, I'm guessing, is quite resource intensive. That 
> said though, you might decide this is worth it for the simplicity of using 
> the virtual machine (i.e. VM Fusion).
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Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)

2013-06-17 Thread Alex Hall
I plan to do the same on my Mini, but start fresh on my business Air. The Mini 
will have NVDA and all my programs, while the Air will (I'm sad to say) have 
Jaws, plus assorted programs for demonstrating to clients. This will be a good 
way to see the differences between the two methods.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Alex, I just ordered the Fusion5 DVD from Dell. Nothing like a fire sale to 
> get you moving on a project. Looks like we'll be comparing outcomes - I plan 
> to use the existing bootcamp partion from Fusion5.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)
> 
> 
>> Yes, here's the link again. This is why I wish people would include the 
>> original message in replies...
>> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:59 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Alex, please let us/me know what you find. I'm in the market for VMWare 
>>> Fusion too, and this price will get me off the fence if its the correct 
>>> product. Where did you say you found it? Dell.com?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)
>>> 
>>> 
 It states that it is for OS10. I don't know why they are selling it, but 
 I'm trying it out.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> What's Dell doing selling a MAC version of VMWare? Of course, I know 
> little about these things, but could that be a PC-based version of VMWare 
> fusion? Will it run on a MAC?
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:53 PM
> Subject: VMWare Fusion for $15 (plus shipping)
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Fusion is normally $50 i believe, but Dell has a DVD of the program for 
>> only $15! I don't know if this is a sale and, if so, how long it will 
>> last, so if you need Fusion (as I do), go grab it now! Here is the link:
>> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6502528&dgc=SS&cid=261927&lid=4738769&acd=12309177348460817
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
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further to my safari download question

2013-06-17 Thread shane christenson
Hi folks. Using safari, is there a way to have it ask you where you want things 
saved every time you click a download link on a web page, instead of files 
being saved at a specific location? I know that i e on the pc, and firefox for 
the pc used to do this, but I can find no option for this in safari. Do the mac 
versions of firefox or gooogle chrome offer this option? Thanks for any help.

Shane

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Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
certainly do not have the issue on any of the Mac's I've owned or the ones I do 
own now.

I use the F1 / F2 keys though to change the brightness.





Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, 
Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
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On 17 Jun 2013, at 08:01, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve 
> battery power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's 
> screen brightness in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the 
> display pane of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen 
> brightness slider, however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound kept 
> cutting in and out almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a really bad 
> phone line. Then I lost VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated right and 
> turned automatically adjust screen brightness back on, and VoiceOver returned 
> to me. However, when I would navigate back to the brightness slider VoiceOver 
> would begin stutterring again.
> 
> Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just me?
> 
> Cheers,
> Nic
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Re: redirecting downloads when in safari

2013-06-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I’m assuming your talking about on the Mac right?

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On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:52 PM, shane christenson  wrote:

> Hi folks. Is there any way to tell safari to put downloads in another folder 
> instead of the downloads folder? Thanks.
> 
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Re: mac equivalent for the 'my computer' in windows

2013-06-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup,

I would just like to add to this, when in the finder, bringing up preferences 
with command comma and under general, you can have your hard drives, external 
drives, connected iPods/CD’s etc shown in the finders desktop.

hth

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On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:58 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:

> Use command shift C.  That will give you the same list windows would if you
> were in my computer.
> 
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> Subject: mac equivalent for the 'my computer' in windows
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> Hi listers. What's the Mac equivalent of the windows 'my computer', and how
> do I get to it from desktop? Thanks.
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Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

try to lower screen brightness by pressing F1 or, FN F1.  To raise brightness 
press F2 or FN F2.

hth

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On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:01 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve 
> battery power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's 
> screen brightneess in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the 
> display pane of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen 
> brightness slider, however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound kept 
> cutting in and out almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a really bad 
> phone line. Then I lost VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated right and 
> turned automatically adjust screen brightness back on, and VoiceOver returned 
> to me. However, when I would navigate back to the brightness slider VoiceOver 
> would begin stutterring again.
> 
> Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just me?
> 
> Cheers,
> Nic
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Re: where do I fine accessible apps for the mack

2013-06-17 Thread ppowells09
Gi,
The applevis site has their apps categorized very well. Unfortunately, there 
are not as many free apps that are accessible for mac as is the case for IOS. 
What specifically are you looking for?

Pam Francis

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:06 PM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:

Hi all,
I was wondering where I could fine out what apps are accessible for the mack 
computer?  I went to app vis to look and it it was not very easy to fine which 
one were free and accessible.
Any help would be great.
Becky Sabo 
On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Oh my gosh that'll be freaking amazing!
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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> On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> Also, apparently when you quote from iBooks on the Mac it will automatically 
>> insert a citation for you. I assume this means when you copy and paste. I 
>> too really, really hope it's accessible. I'm pretty sure it will be or, at 
>> least, they'll make it accessible sooner or later.
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Re: Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread ppowells09
Hello,
I have used screen curtain on my Idevices, while reading a book. I have also 
adjusted screen brightness on my computer if I am using it to access a podcast 
or the like which doesn't require me to be in front of it. I have not had any 
kind of issues with voiceover finding its way around the screen when the screen 
brightness is reduced. I remember my very first experience with a software 
screenreader using DOS 5 & Word perfect 5.1. I have enough vision that I tried 
to follow the cursor. Needless to say, it slowed me down considerably. My 
instructor took away my monitor forcing me to listen to the speech. I can't 
believe the mac would need a lighted screen to function either.

Pam Francis

On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve battery 
power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's screen 
brightneess in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the display pane 
of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen brightness slider, 
however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound kept cutting in and out 
almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a really bad phone line. Then I lost 
VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated right and turned automatically adjust 
screen brightness back on, and VoiceOver returned to me. However, when I would 
navigate back to the brightness slider VoiceOver would begin stutterring again.

Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just me?

Cheers,
Nic

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Screen Brightness and VoiceOver

2013-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
After contemplating the sad news that screen curtain does not conserve battery 
power, I decided today to try and lower my mid 2011 MacBook Air's screen 
brightneess in order to conserve battery power. I did this in the display pane 
of system preferences. When I tried adjusting the screen brightness slider, 
however, VoiceOver went a little bananas. The sound kept cutting in and out 
almost like VoiceOver was stuttering or on a really bad phone line. Then I lost 
VoiceOver sound completely. I navigated right and turned automatically adjust 
screen brightness back on, and VoiceOver returned to me. However, when I would 
navigate back to the brightness slider VoiceOver would begin stutterring again.

Any ideas of what's going on here? Does this happen to everyone or just me?

Cheers,
Nic

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