setting line spacing in a document in Pages?

2013-09-05 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

Can someone tell me how to do this?  I thought you did it using the Inspector, 
but when I bring up the inspector I don't see anything that would allow me to 
set this.

thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Accessible Music Tagging Software

2013-09-05 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi.
That would work, but I want an app that'll go through my entire library and 
make sure all of my music is properly tagged. I'd like to prepare my library 
for iTunes matching at some point, so having the proper metadata is essential.
Also, I really don't want to go through every song and tag it manually. That 
would lead to me ending up in a rubber room for the rest of my life.
Thanks,
Matthew Campbell.


On 2013-09-05, at 9:44 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I just use iTunes, personally. I believe that accessing file information 
> (cmd-i) for a music file will also let you edit ID3 tags, but I could be 
> wrong about that.
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Matthew Campbell  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone.
>> Can anyone recommend any accessible apps for tagging music? The old favorite 
>> tagalicious is apparently no longer being developed anymore.
>> Thanks for any recommendations.
>> Matthew Campbell
>> 
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Re: Accessible dvd authoring program?

2013-09-05 Thread Chris Blouch
I fiddled with iDVD a bit but didn't get very far. Had better luck 
poking around in the menus than accessing the controls in the UI.


CB

On 9/1/13 11:21 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi all,,  does anyone know where I can get an authoring tool that will 
let me take a collection of videos, add proper DVD titles and chapter 
points and make the collection into a DVD file?


Thanks,
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Re: Making keynote slides from screen shots

2013-09-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Very sneaky idea.  Good thinking.  Same concerns here but it's certainly worth 
the effort to try.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-09-05, at 8:26 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> What about printing the Safari page to a PDF and then placing that in Keynote 
> instead of the bitmap. I haven't tried reading a PDF from within Keynote 
> before so maybe it just comes up as an unreadable object, but the web page 
> text might actually be accessible. Of course if you're trying to show some of 
> the Safari UI then this isn't going to help.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/1/13 3:42 PM, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote:
>> Is it possible to create accessible screenshots from within Safari to paste 
>> into Keynote?
>> 
>> I am looking to make a presentation that will include certain webpages. I 
>> need to know what slide I am on.
>> 
>> I would like to capture screenshots to paste into Keynote, , and still have 
>> the text readable with voiceover so I know what we're looking at during the 
>> presentation.
>> 
>> I can add some text to the page to queue me as to what's like I am on. This 
>> goes around the problem that may arise if pasting screenshots gives you 
>> images, not text.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Antonio
>> 
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Re: Making keynote slides from screen shots

2013-09-05 Thread Chris Blouch
What about printing the Safari page to a PDF and then placing that in 
Keynote instead of the bitmap. I haven't tried reading a PDF from within 
Keynote before so maybe it just comes up as an unreadable object, but 
the web page text might actually be accessible. Of course if you're 
trying to show some of the Safari UI then this isn't going to help.


CB

On 9/1/13 3:42 PM, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote:

Is it possible to create accessible screenshots from within Safari to paste 
into Keynote?

I am looking to make a presentation that will include certain webpages. I need 
to know what slide I am on.

I would like to capture screenshots to paste into Keynote, , and still have the 
text readable with voiceover so I know what we're looking at during the 
presentation.

I can add some text to the page to queue me as to what's like I am on. This 
goes around the problem that may arise if pasting screenshots gives you images, 
not text.

Thanks,

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Re: Accessible Music Tagging Software

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
I just use iTunes, personally. I believe that accessing file information 
(cmd-i) for a music file will also let you edit ID3 tags, but I could be wrong 
about that.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Matthew Campbell  wrote:

> Hey everyone.
> Can anyone recommend any accessible apps for tagging music? The old favorite 
> tagalicious is apparently no longer being developed anymore.
> Thanks for any recommendations.
> Matthew Campbell
> 
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Accessible Music Tagging Software

2013-09-05 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hey everyone.
Can anyone recommend any accessible apps for tagging music? The old favorite 
tagalicious is apparently no longer being developed anymore.
Thanks for any recommendations.
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
I normally don't use the full spell checker. Instead, I hit cmd-semicolon to 
move to the next misspelled word (make sure you have interacted with the text 
first). I either correct the word, jump to the end (option-right) and get the 
suggestions that way, or vo-shift-m and find the suggestion I want or hit 
"learn spelling" to ignore it in future. I'm usually good about polcing my work 
for extra spaces, but am so used to copying things that I know when there is, 
or might be, an extra space or two that I should investigate. I've never heard 
of this proff-reading thing, I will have to check that out.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Greg Aikens  wrote:

> Hi Phil,
> I have not used it much but the proofreading function on the mac will catch 
> this extra white space.  I access this by pressing VO+Shift+M to pull up a 
> context menu and arrowing down to the proofreading sub menu.  I agree that 
> the Spell/Grammar check in MS word does seem to be a more efficient 
> alternative if you have access to windows because the one function addresses 
> all your mistakes at once.  I also like the feature to see the word/mistake 
> in context when using MS Word so I can more easily tell what the correction 
> should be.  As far as I can tell, the only way to see this on the mac is to 
> close the spell check window and find where the cursor is in the document, 
> which is only sometimes reliable.  Maybe I'm not doing it right though…
> 
> 
> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
> Cobb County School District
> gpaik...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I don't understand why having extra spaces between words is so unheard of. I 
>> do a lot of editing as I write, and it's inevitable that some extra spaces 
>> are left here and there. MS word's spellchecker will find and eliminate all 
>> this extraneous white space. There seems to be no equivalent function on the 
>> Mac's spell checking functions. Perhaps people just aren't aware that their 
>> text is peppered with these little, mostly visual, editing errors. 
>> 
>> For now, I do my writing in windows MS-Word and spell check there, then copy 
>> and paste into theMarsEdit app for publishing. It works well and isn't 
>> really too much extra bother considering the superior functionality I get 
>> this way.
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just to be sure, you know the Mac can spell-check, right? I'm not trying to 
>>> tell you how to work, I'm just making sure you know what tools you have 
>>> available.
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 Actually, I'm finding it much easier to write my posts in Word and use 
 it's excellent spellchecker To correct any whitespace problems. I then use 
 Marzett it to do the publishing.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> My first thought is to just do a search (vo-f) for two spaces. I suppose 
> you could make, or ask someone to make, an Applescript to do the job, if 
> Mars Edit can be scripted, but it seems far easier to simply become more 
> comfortable with mac commands so the extra spaces don't appear in the 
> first place. If you describe the procedure you use for copying, pasting, 
> and all that, perhaps we can figure out how the extra spaces are getting 
> in there.
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and 
>> paste text.
>> That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It 
>>  looks sloppy and unprofessional at best.
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces 
>>> randomly appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I 
>>> selected or erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my 
>>> knowledge.
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
 editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually 
 count them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office 
 word to write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let 
 Marsetta do the posting.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or 
> anywhere else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit 
> setting, or that you are not somehow re-reading whitespace 
> characters? I only ask because you said you are new to editing text, 
> and it can take a while to get the hang of doing that.

Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Greg Aikens
Hi Phil,
I have not used it much but the proofreading function on the mac will catch 
this extra white space.  I access this by pressing VO+Shift+M to pull up a 
context menu and arrowing down to the proofreading sub menu.  I agree that the 
Spell/Grammar check in MS word does seem to be a more efficient alternative if 
you have access to windows because the one function addresses all your mistakes 
at once.  I also like the feature to see the word/mistake in context when using 
MS Word so I can more easily tell what the correction should be.  As far as I 
can tell, the only way to see this on the mac is to close the spell check 
window and find where the cursor is in the document, which is only sometimes 
reliable.  Maybe I'm not doing it right though…


Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
Cobb County School District
gpaik...@gmail.com



On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I don't understand why having extra spaces between words is so unheard of. I 
> do a lot of editing as I write, and it's inevitable that some extra spaces 
> are left here and there. MS word's spellchecker will find and eliminate all 
> this extraneous white space. There seems to be no equivalent function on the 
> Mac's spell checking functions. Perhaps people just aren't aware that their 
> text is peppered with these little, mostly visual, editing errors. 
> 
> For now, I do my writing in windows MS-Word and spell check there, then copy 
> and paste into theMarsEdit app for publishing. It works well and isn't really 
> too much extra bother considering the superior functionality I get this way.
> 
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Just to be sure, you know the Mac can spell-check, right? I'm not trying to 
>> tell you how to work, I'm just making sure you know what tools you have 
>> available.
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, I'm finding it much easier to write my posts in Word and use it's 
>>> excellent spellchecker To correct any whitespace problems. I then use 
>>> Marzett it to do the publishing.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 My first thought is to just do a search (vo-f) for two spaces. I suppose 
 you could make, or ask someone to make, an Applescript to do the job, if 
 Mars Edit can be scripted, but it seems far easier to simply become more 
 comfortable with mac commands so the extra spaces don't appear in the 
 first place. If you describe the procedure you use for copying, pasting, 
 and all that, perhaps we can figure out how the extra spaces are getting 
 in there.
 On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and paste 
> text.
> That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It  
> looks sloppy and unprofessional at best.
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces 
>> randomly appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I 
>> selected or erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my 
>> knowledge.
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
>>> editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually 
>>> count them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office 
>>> word to write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta 
>>> do the posting.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or 
 anywhere else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit 
 setting, or that you are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? 
 I only ask because you said you are new to editing text, and it can 
 take a while to get the hang of doing that.
 On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
> wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles 
> text, I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never 
> had to deal with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know 
> how I can check for and correct extra white space.
> thanks
> 
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Phil Halton
I don't understand why having extra spaces between words is so unheard of. I do 
a lot of editing as I write, and it's inevitable that some extra spaces are 
left here and there. MS word's spellchecker will find and eliminate all this 
extraneous white space. There seems to be no equivalent function on the Mac's 
spell checking functions. Perhaps people just aren't aware that their text is 
peppered with these little, mostly visual, editing errors. 

For now, I do my writing in windows MS-Word and spell check there, then copy 
and paste into theMarsEdit app for publishing. It works well and isn't really 
too much extra bother considering the superior functionality I get this way.

On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Just to be sure, you know the Mac can spell-check, right? I'm not trying to 
> tell you how to work, I'm just making sure you know what tools you have 
> available.
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> Actually, I'm finding it much easier to write my posts in Word and use it's 
>> excellent spellchecker To correct any whitespace problems. I then use 
>> Marzett it to do the publishing.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> My first thought is to just do a search (vo-f) for two spaces. I suppose 
>>> you could make, or ask someone to make, an Applescript to do the job, if 
>>> Mars Edit can be scripted, but it seems far easier to simply become more 
>>> comfortable with mac commands so the extra spaces don't appear in the first 
>>> place. If you describe the procedure you use for copying, pasting, and all 
>>> that, perhaps we can figure out how the extra spaces are getting in there.
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and paste 
 text.
 That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It  
 looks sloppy and unprofessional at best.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces randomly 
> appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I selected or 
> erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my knowledge.
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
>> editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually 
>> count them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office 
>> word to write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta 
>> do the posting.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or 
>>> anywhere else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit 
>>> setting, or that you are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? 
>>> I only ask because you said you are new to editing text, and it can 
>>> take a while to get the hang of doing that.
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
 wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles 
 text, I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never 
 had to deal with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know 
 how I can check for and correct extra white space.
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
Just to be sure, you know the Mac can spell-check, right? I'm not trying to 
tell you how to work, I'm just making sure you know what tools you have 
available.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Actually, I'm finding it much easier to write my posts in Word and use it's 
> excellent spellchecker To correct any whitespace problems. I then use Marzett 
> it to do the publishing.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> My first thought is to just do a search (vo-f) for two spaces. I suppose you 
>> could make, or ask someone to make, an Applescript to do the job, if Mars 
>> Edit can be scripted, but it seems far easier to simply become more 
>> comfortable with mac commands so the extra spaces don't appear in the first 
>> place. If you describe the procedure you use for copying, pasting, and all 
>> that, perhaps we can figure out how the extra spaces are getting in there.
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and paste 
>>> text.
>>> That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It  
>>> looks sloppy and unprofessional at best.
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces randomly 
 appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I selected or 
 erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my knowledge.
 On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
> editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually count 
> them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office word to 
> write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta do the 
> posting.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or 
>> anywhere else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit 
>> setting, or that you are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? I 
>> only ask because you said you are new to editing text, and it can take a 
>> while to get the hang of doing that.
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
>>> wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles 
>>> text, I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never 
>>> had to deal with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know 
>>> how I can check for and correct extra white space.
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Phil Halton
Actually, I'm finding it much easier to write my posts in Word and use it's 
excellent spellchecker To correct any whitespace problems. I then use Marzett 
it to do the publishing.

Sent from my IPhone


On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> My first thought is to just do a search (vo-f) for two spaces. I suppose you 
> could make, or ask someone to make, an Applescript to do the job, if Mars 
> Edit can be scripted, but it seems far easier to simply become more 
> comfortable with mac commands so the extra spaces don't appear in the first 
> place. If you describe the procedure you use for copying, pasting, and all 
> that, perhaps we can figure out how the extra spaces are getting in there.
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and paste 
>> text.
>> That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It  
>> looks sloppy and unprofessional at best.
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces randomly 
>>> appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I selected or 
>>> erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my knowledge.
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
 editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually count 
 them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office word to 
 write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta do the 
 posting.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or 
> anywhere else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit setting, 
> or that you are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? I only ask 
> because you said you are new to editing text, and it can take a while to 
> get the hang of doing that.
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
>> wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles 
>> text, I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never 
>> had to deal with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know 
>> how I can check for and correct extra white space.
>> thanks
>> 
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Re: Help Need Accessible Fax Program

2013-09-05 Thread Brian Fischler
Thanks Aman, going to check them out tonight. I appreciate it.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Aman Singer  wrote:

> Hi.
> I'm afraid I've never tried with Safari, but I have used both Pamfax
> http://www.pamfax.biz/en/
> and GotFreeFax
> http://www.gotfreefax.com/
> and they are both reasonably accessible with web browsers.
> Aman
> 
> 
> On 9/5/13, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I need to send a fax for work and don't have a regular phone jack on my
>> computer. Figured this would be easy enough but downloaded the free IFax and
>> all the buttons are unlabeled. So annoying. Anyone using a easy to use fax
>> program that is accessible? If so, please let us know. Thanks
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
My first thought is to just do a search (vo-f) for two spaces. I suppose you 
could make, or ask someone to make, an Applescript to do the job, if Mars Edit 
can be scripted, but it seems far easier to simply become more comfortable with 
mac commands so the extra spaces don't appear in the first place. If you 
describe the procedure you use for copying, pasting, and all that, perhaps we 
can figure out how the extra spaces are getting in there.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and paste 
> text.
> That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It  
> looks sloppy and unprofessional at best.
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces randomly 
>> appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I selected or 
>> erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my knowledge.
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
>>> editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually count 
>>> them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office word to 
>>> write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta do the 
>>> posting.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or 
 anywhere else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit setting, 
 or that you are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? I only ask 
 because you said you are new to editing text, and it can take a while to 
 get the hang of doing that.
 On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
> wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles 
> text, I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never had 
> to deal with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know how I 
> can check for and correct extra white space.
> thanks
> 
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Phil Halton
It's nothing the Mac is doing. It's purely the way I type, cut  and paste text.
That being settled, how can I check for extra whitespace in the text? It  looks 
sloppy and unprofessional at best.
Sent from my IPhone


On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces randomly 
> appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I selected or 
> erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my knowledge.
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
>> editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually count 
>> them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office word to 
>> write my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta do the 
>> posting.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or anywhere 
>>> else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit setting, or that 
>>> you are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? I only ask because 
>>> you said you are new to editing text, and it can take a while to get the 
>>> hang of doing that.
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
 wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles text, 
 I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never had to 
 deal with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know how I can 
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

The terminal doesn't provide a password field as you are imagining. Basically, 
you type text at the command prompt and the machine responds. Scrolling text up 
the screen. Many programs and commands have man pages. They give all the 
available options so can look daunting. If you run terminal and type man ftp 
then press the enter key. The man page for ftp will appear. Use VO + up arrow 
and down to read the page. Press 'q' to quit the man page. A quick look at it 
suggests you could type:

ftp http://username:passw...@my-host.co.uk

This is just one option. Providing you know your username and password, host 
url and any required port information. You can string it together and get it 
done. If you use the same site and same activity you can automate the process.  
If you get the right structure but not specified the password. It will prompt 
you to type it. There's no edit field, it's just there at the prompt. Just type 
your password and press the enter key, so the machine knows that you have 
finished.

Be aware, that the flags are case sensitive. Thus -p is different to -P.

Good luck.

Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 5 Sep 2013, at 11:38, David Eagle  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
> primarily due to my PC breaking. 
> I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
> However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with FTP 
> this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't find a 
> place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no password 
> field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with terminal for 
> FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which works 
> brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly this is 
> fully inaccessible on the mac. 
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Edward Green
Hi,

I like Cyberduck, though as Alex says, you're better off finding it online 
rather than paying for it in the app store.  The online version of the program 
encourages you to donate when you quit, but obviously you can either ignore 
this or choose how much you donate.

Cheers,

Ed
On 5 Sep 2013, at 14:20, Kjsc Radio  wrote:

> Transmit is in the app store as well and its a bit cheeper if you by it from 
> there.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 5 Sep 2013, at 5:59 am, Mike  wrote:
> 
>> I use  transit every day and really like it. You get a week long free trial 
>> or something like that when you first download it but once that expires you 
>> have to pay around $30.
>> 
>> I know a lot of people cringe at paying $30 for a program but if it's 
>> something you use a lot it's worth it in my opinion.
>> 
>> Mike m
>> How to be Blind
>> www.htb2.com
>> Roundtable podcasts, software reviews, accessibility tutorials, and more!
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:24 AM, "Red.Falcon"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys!
>>> I do not use them myself but people have talked about Transmit so if you 
>>> can use the archive's you could maybe find out more!
>>> HTH Colin
>>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2013, at 12:45, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey Dave,
  
 I’m looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you 
 find anything?
  
 Cheers,
 Jed
  
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 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
 To: macvisionaries
 Subject: FTP
  
 Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
 primarily due to my PC breaking. 
 I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
 However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with 
 FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't 
 find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no 
 password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with 
 terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which 
 works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly 
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Re: entering tc conference rooms

2013-09-05 Thread Kerri
Hey, no problem, I just forgot th technical terminology for what we do with a 
disk image.
On 2013-09-04, at 8:10 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:

> Hi Kerri,
> 
> Thanks so much!  I thought that might be the case, but wanted to make sure 
> there wasn't something else I had to do!  LOL!  I'm so glad this is working!
> 
> Desi
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Desi, you open the  dot dog file with command o.
>> On 2013-09-04, at 6:08 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kerri,
>>> 
>>> What do you mean by unpacking theDMG file?  Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Desi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, the log in is as follows.
 1. Launch safari.
 2. navigate to a site (I'll use out of sight for this) 
 3. Once on out of sight, download the client if you haven't already done 
 so. Once this is downloaded, unpack the dot d m g file and it should go 
 into apps, if not, copy and paste it there.
 4. Locate a room and enter it. The tc client will launch normally. You do 
 not need to enter your user name or password ingot he client, just sign in 
 as you usually do or sign up for a new membership.
 On 2013-09-04, at 1:49 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
 wrote:
 
> Hi do talking communities work with the mac now?
> 
> 
> Cheers 
> Maria  
> 
> sent from mac mini 
> email, & fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/09/2013, at 9:50 AM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> That is what I saw when I checked the menus too, we can't even record. 
>> Alas, I shall be encumbered with this noise for a while, oh well, there 
>> could be worse things I reckon.
>> On 2013-09-03, at 2:54 PM, Red.Falcon  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Although TC is working better for us Mac users we still do not have 
>>> access to much so I could not see anything available in the menu's most 
>>> options seem to be dimmed!
>>> HTH Colin
>>> 
>>> On 3 Sep 2013, at 16:58, Kerri  wrote:
>>> 
 hello, all. Is it possible to change the lock the talk key sound in 
 talking communities conference? Thanks and have a great day.
 
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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

2013-09-05 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi Steve,

I think that the best thing you can possibly do to start learning about XCode 
is just to do what you would do with any other app and pull it up and start 
exploring.  

I definitely recommend the first mac app tutorial.  You will learn about the 
basic work flow of XCode and about the model view controller pattern.  They 
walk you through all of the code you write so you don't have to be an 
experienced objc programmer.  It is also a jumping off point for other getting 
started docs.


On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:05 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

I'm an experienced programmer in other platforms like mainframe, C, Perl, php, 
etc. But this discussion of Xcode and stuff is quite interesting to me but 
seems to go way over my head. Where can I find some good tutorials or intro 
manuals to get going using this environment? I have a book I bought recently 
which goes into iOS programming but I think I would rather start out with the 
Mac and then move over there.

Any ideas?

On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Hi Alex, I'll place comments below.
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> cara :)
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the response. Yes, dot syntax is used exclusively in Python and 
> Java, two languages with which i am very comfortable. I think my main 
> confusion stemmed from my not understanding that you were making the 
> viewController class into an instance inside the delegate class. In 
> retrospect it is rather obvious, but I did not put it together until I saw 
> things written out using self. Knowing that the underscore is a shortcut for 
> self helps in reading code snippets, but I know there are differences under 
> the hood so will steer clear of using that for the moment.
> 
> I wasn't mixing up the class name and object name. I was thinking that the 
> object name you gave it in the .h file had to be used in the .m file, I think 
> that is still unclear: how does the .m file get the name you gave the object 
> in the .h file? I see where you declare the class in the .h file, then you 
> import the .h file in the .m file. Is that enough?
> 
> // CQ
> 
> Not sure exactly what you are asking here. When the files are created, XCode 
> creates both the h and m files with the same name.
> 
> In order to use the class to create objects from it, you need to import it, 
> just like in Java.
> 
> The reason I placed the @class declaration in the h file is that the import 
> is in the m file so the compiler will knot recognize the class yet. So you 
> are telling it, trust me, there is a class definition coming, just wait. :)
> 
> That way you can declare your class members in your @property statements in 
> your h file. Does this make sense?
> 
> Remember, your file names are actually your class names…
> 
> In Objective-C, does importing add everything that was imported to the 
> namespace of the file doing the importing?
> 
> // CQ
> 
> There are no namespaces in objective C. If you want to use namespaces you 
> need to use objective C++.
> 
> Importing makes your imported class available to your file which is doing the 
> importing.
> 
> In Python, you would use dot notation to access variables and classes in 
> imported files; importing only lets you get to them, it does not provide them 
> to you without you needing to specify which file they are from.
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex, first off, let me congratulate you on getting your code to run! :)
>> 
>> I'll add some comments below and also ask you to share your h and m files so 
>> I can answer your question you ask in your other note, about why self works.
>> 
>> comments below marked with:
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> Have a great day!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> See my comments below.
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> Just another quickie for right now as I'm a bit busy. :)
>>> 
>>> • the caraView in the h file is the declaration.
>> Yes, that makes complete sense.
>>> 
>>> • The CaraView in both the h and m files is the class name. (I.E. the type)
>> That also makes perfect sense.
>>> 
>>> • The _caraView in the h file is the way I'm chose to access caraView.
>> Now you've lost me. Is the underscore followed by the class name not 
>> synthesized by the @property statement from the .h file? 
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> It is not the class name which is preceded by the underscore, it is the 
>> object.
>> 
>> The way I read your sentence was that you chose to name the object _caraView 
>> in the .m file, but that is different from what you named it in the @class 
>> statement in the .h file.
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> It sounds like you might be confusing the class and the object. the @class 
>> statement declares the class so what follows that is the class name.
>> 
>> The instance of that class, the object, is what you access to actually use 
>> in your app.
>> 
>> There is more than one way to a

Re: Help Need Accessible Fax Program

2013-09-05 Thread Aman Singer
Hi.
I'm afraid I've never tried with Safari, but I have used both Pamfax
http://www.pamfax.biz/en/
and GotFreeFax
http://www.gotfreefax.com/
and they are both reasonably accessible with web browsers.
Aman


On 9/5/13, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I need to send a fax for work and don't have a regular phone jack on my
> computer. Figured this would be easy enough but downloaded the free IFax and
> all the buttons are unlabeled. So annoying. Anyone using a easy to use fax
> program that is accessible? If so, please let us know. Thanks
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Help Need Accessible Fax Program

2013-09-05 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all,

I need to send a fax for work and don't have a regular phone jack on my 
computer. Figured this would be easy enough but downloaded the free IFax and 
all the buttons are unlabeled. So annoying. Anyone using a easy to use fax 
program that is accessible? If so, please let us know. Thanks

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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
Cyber Duck is another one I hear works well, though I have so far had no 
success with it. It is free, at least if you find it online and not through the 
App Store, so you can at least see if you can get it working and not have to 
ever pay for it if it does work.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Kjsc Radio  wrote:

> Transmit is in the app store as well and its a bit cheeper if you by it from 
> there.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 5 Sep 2013, at 5:59 am, Mike  wrote:
> 
>> I use  transit every day and really like it. You get a week long free trial 
>> or something like that when you first download it but once that expires you 
>> have to pay around $30.
>> 
>> I know a lot of people cringe at paying $30 for a program but if it's 
>> something you use a lot it's worth it in my opinion.
>> 
>> Mike m
>> How to be Blind
>> www.htb2.com
>> Roundtable podcasts, software reviews, accessibility tutorials, and more!
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:24 AM, "Red.Falcon"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys!
>>> I do not use them myself but people have talked about Transmit so if you 
>>> can use the archive's you could maybe find out more!
>>> HTH Colin
>>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2013, at 12:45, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey Dave,
  
 I’m looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you 
 find anything?
  
 Cheers,
 Jed
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
 To: macvisionaries
 Subject: FTP
  
 Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
 primarily due to my PC breaking. 
 I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
 However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with 
 FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't 
 find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no 
 password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with 
 terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which 
 works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly 
 this is fully inaccessible on the mac. 
  
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Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
Are you highlighting spaces as well? I've never had extra spaces randomly 
appear; any additional or missing spaces are due to the way I selected or 
erased text, not the Mac deciding to insert them without my knowledge.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other 
> editing options you get extra spaces between words you can actually count 
> them with the cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office word to write 
> my blogs and spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta do the posting.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or anywhere 
>> else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit setting, or that you 
>> are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? I only ask because you 
>> said you are new to editing text, and it can take a while to get the hang of 
>> doing that.
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a 
>>> wordpress blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles text, 
>>> I find a lot of extra white space between the words. I've never had to deal 
>>> with much text editing on the Mac before and want to know how I can check 
>>> for and correct extra white space.
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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Beginning Obj-C/Xcode (was Re: xcode creating actions and outlets)

2013-09-05 Thread Alex Hall
First look up podcasts on Xcode using Voiceover. You really need to understand 
the layout before anything else, or you'll never be able to find the files and 
other controls that any tutorial talks about. Let me know if you have trouble 
finding them; someone once sat down with me on Skype and went over Xcode, and, 
while I'm still not overly comfortable with the IDE, I'd be happy to do the 
same for you.

Next, google "your first mac app" and find the Apple tutorial that will come 
up. Follow any links to terms or syntax that does not make sense. Once you get 
to the bit about control-dragging actions to UI elements, you will be right 
where I am, waiting for a programmatic way to do this. A lot of Objective-C is 
similar to C or C++ so you may have a better time of things than I did.
On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:05 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I'm an experienced programmer in other platforms like mainframe, C, Perl, 
> php, etc. But this discussion of Xcode and stuff is quite interesting to me 
> but seems to go way over my head. Where can I find some good tutorials or 
> intro manuals to get going using this environment? I have a book I bought 
> recently which goes into iOS programming but I think I would rather start out 
> with the Mac and then move over there.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex, I'll place comments below.
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> cara :)
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for the response. Yes, dot syntax is used exclusively in Python 
>> and Java, two languages with which i am very comfortable. I think my main 
>> confusion stemmed from my not understanding that you were making the 
>> viewController class into an instance inside the delegate class. In 
>> retrospect it is rather obvious, but I did not put it together until I saw 
>> things written out using self. Knowing that the underscore is a shortcut for 
>> self helps in reading code snippets, but I know there are differences under 
>> the hood so will steer clear of using that for the moment.
>> 
>> I wasn't mixing up the class name and object name. I was thinking that the 
>> object name you gave it in the .h file had to be used in the .m file, I 
>> think that is still unclear: how does the .m file get the name you gave the 
>> object in the .h file? I see where you declare the class in the .h file, 
>> then you import the .h file in the .m file. Is that enough?
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> Not sure exactly what you are asking here. When the files are created, XCode 
>> creates both the h and m files with the same name.
>> 
>> In order to use the class to create objects from it, you need to import it, 
>> just like in Java.
>> 
>> The reason I placed the @class declaration in the h file is that the import 
>> is in the m file so the compiler will knot recognize the class yet. So you 
>> are telling it, trust me, there is a class definition coming, just wait. :)
>> 
>> That way you can declare your class members in your @property statements in 
>> your h file. Does this make sense?
>> 
>> Remember, your file names are actually your class names…
>> 
>> In Objective-C, does importing add everything that was imported to the 
>> namespace of the file doing the importing?
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> There are no namespaces in objective C. If you want to use namespaces you 
>> need to use objective C++.
>> 
>> Importing makes your imported class available to your file which is doing 
>> the importing.
>> 
>> In Python, you would use dot notation to access variables and classes in 
>> imported files; importing only lets you get to them, it does not provide 
>> them to you without you needing to specify which file they are from.
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex, first off, let me congratulate you on getting your code to run! :)
>>> 
>>> I'll add some comments below and also ask you to share your h and m files 
>>> so I can answer your question you ask in your other note, about why self 
>>> works.
>>> 
>>> comments below marked with:
>>> 
>>> // CQ
>>> 
>>> Have a great day!
>>> 
>>> Smiles,
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> See my comments below.
>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Just another quickie for right now as I'm a bit busy. :)
 
 • the caraView in the h file is the declaration.
>>> Yes, that makes complete sense.
 
 • The CaraView in both the h and m files is the class name. (I.E. the type)
>>> That also makes perfect sense.
 
 • The _caraView in the h file is the way I'm chose to access caraView.
>>> Now you've lost me. Is the underscore followed by the class name not 
>>> synthesized by the @property statement from the .h file? 
>>> 
>>> // CQ
>>> 
>>> It is not the class name which is preceded by the underscore, it is the 
>>> object.
>>> 
>>> The way I read your sentence was that you chose to name the object 
>>> _c

Re: editing text in Marsedit

2013-09-05 Thread Phil Halton
No, it's definitely happening. As you cut and paste words and do other editing 
options you get extra spaces between words you can actually count them with the 
cursor. I'm thinking about using Microsoft office word to write my blogs and 
spellcheck them and me and then let Marsetta do the posting.

Sent from my IPhone


On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I've never had this happen in emails, Text Edit, iText Express, or anywhere 
> else I can think of. Are you sure it is not a mars Edit setting, or that you 
> are not somehow re-reading whitespace characters? I only ask because you said 
> you are new to editing text, and it can take a while to get the hang of doing 
> that.
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I just bought Marsedit and started filling in my "about" page on a wordpress 
>> blog. From extensive editing and the funky way Mac handles text, I find a 
>> lot of extra white space between the words. I've never had to deal with much 
>> text editing on the Mac before and want to know how I can check for and 
>> correct extra white space.
>> thanks
>> 
>> 
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Kjsc Radio
Transmit is in the app store as well and its a bit cheeper if you by it from 
there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Sep 2013, at 5:59 am, Mike  wrote:
> 
> I use  transit every day and really like it. You get a week long free trial 
> or something like that when you first download it but once that expires you 
> have to pay around $30.
> 
> I know a lot of people cringe at paying $30 for a program but if it's 
> something you use a lot it's worth it in my opinion.
> 
> Mike m
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> 
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:24 AM, "Red.Falcon"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys!
>> I do not use them myself but people have talked about Transmit so if you can 
>> use the archive's you could maybe find out more!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2013, at 12:45, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Dave,
>>>  
>>> I’m looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you 
>>> find anything?
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jed
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries
>>> Subject: FTP
>>>  
>>> Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
>>> primarily due to my PC breaking. 
>>> I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
>>> However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with 
>>> FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't 
>>> find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no 
>>> password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with 
>>> terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which 
>>> works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly 
>>> this is fully inaccessible on the mac. 
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Mike
I use  transit every day and really like it. You get a week long free trial or 
something like that when you first download it but once that expires you have 
to pay around $30.

I know a lot of people cringe at paying $30 for a program but if it's something 
you use a lot it's worth it in my opinion.

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On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:24 AM, "Red.Falcon"  
wrote:

> Hi guys!
> I do not use them myself but people have talked about Transmit so if you can 
> use the archive's you could maybe find out more!
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 5 Sep 2013, at 12:45, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Dave,
>>  
>> I’m looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you 
>> find anything?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
>> To: macvisionaries
>> Subject: FTP
>>  
>> Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
>> primarily due to my PC breaking. 
>> I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
>> However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with 
>> FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't 
>> find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no 
>> password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with 
>> terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which 
>> works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly 
>> this is fully inaccessible on the mac. 
>>  
>> Thanks.
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread erik burggraaf
Transmit is the way to go for hardcore ftp usage.

Best,

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On 2013-09-05, at 8:24 AM, "Red.Falcon"  
wrote:

> Hi guys!
> I do not use them myself but people have talked about Transmit so if you can 
> use the archive's you could maybe find out more!
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 5 Sep 2013, at 12:45, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Dave,
>>  
>> I’m looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you 
>> find anything?
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
>> To: macvisionaries
>> Subject: FTP
>>  
>> Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
>> primarily due to my PC breaking. 
>> I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
>> However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with 
>> FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't 
>> find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no 
>> password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with 
>> terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which 
>> works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly 
>> this is fully inaccessible on the mac. 
>>  
>> Thanks.
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi guys!
I do not use them myself but people have talked about Transmit so if you can 
use the archive's you could maybe find out more!
HTH Colin

On 5 Sep 2013, at 12:45, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> Hey Dave,
>  
> I’m looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you find 
> anything?
>  
> Cheers,
> Jed
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries
> Subject: FTP
>  
> Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect, 
> primarily due to my PC breaking. 
> I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience. 
> However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with FTP 
> this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't find a 
> place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no password 
> field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with terminal for 
> FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which works 
> brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly this is 
> fully inaccessible on the mac. 
>  
> Thanks.
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Re: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread -
I don't understand your problem using ftp in terminal.  One first does the 
command ftp followed on the same line by the destination.  A prompt for 
the user name pops up.  Then the same for password.


After you entr the user name and hit enter what happens?

XB

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RE: FTP

2013-09-05 Thread Jed Barton
Hey Dave,

 

I'm looking for something like that as well.  Can you let me know if you
find anything?

 

Cheers,

Jed

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:38 AM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: FTP

 

Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect,
primarily due to my PC breaking. 

I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience.
However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with
FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't
find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no
password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with
terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which
works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly
this is fully inaccessible on the mac. 

 

Thanks.

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FTP

2013-09-05 Thread David Eagle
Hi everyone, I finally return to my mac after nine months of neglect,
primarily due to my PC breaking.
I am pleasantly surprised to find that I'm really enjoying the experience.
However, I cannot find an FTP solution, and since I work quite a bit with
FTP this is a bit of a blow. Apparently you can use terminal, but I can't
find a place to enter a password. I can find username and host but no
password field. I have selected ftp in the services list. Any help with
terminal for FTP would be very much appreciated. I tried filezilla, which
works brilliantly on the PC and is fully accessible on the PC, but sadly
this is fully inaccessible on the mac.

Thanks.

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Re: xcode creating actions and outlets

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Holmes
I'm an experienced programmer in other platforms like mainframe, C, Perl, php, 
etc. But this discussion of Xcode and stuff is quite interesting to me but 
seems to go way over my head. Where can I find some good tutorials or intro 
manuals to get going using this environment? I have a book I bought recently 
which goes into iOS programming but I think I would rather start out with the 
Mac and then move over there.

Any ideas?

On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Hi Alex, I'll place comments below.
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> cara :)
> 
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the response. Yes, dot syntax is used exclusively in Python and 
> Java, two languages with which i am very comfortable. I think my main 
> confusion stemmed from my not understanding that you were making the 
> viewController class into an instance inside the delegate class. In 
> retrospect it is rather obvious, but I did not put it together until I saw 
> things written out using self. Knowing that the underscore is a shortcut for 
> self helps in reading code snippets, but I know there are differences under 
> the hood so will steer clear of using that for the moment.
> 
> I wasn't mixing up the class name and object name. I was thinking that the 
> object name you gave it in the .h file had to be used in the .m file, I think 
> that is still unclear: how does the .m file get the name you gave the object 
> in the .h file? I see where you declare the class in the .h file, then you 
> import the .h file in the .m file. Is that enough?
> 
> // CQ
> 
> Not sure exactly what you are asking here. When the files are created, XCode 
> creates both the h and m files with the same name.
> 
> In order to use the class to create objects from it, you need to import it, 
> just like in Java.
> 
> The reason I placed the @class declaration in the h file is that the import 
> is in the m file so the compiler will knot recognize the class yet. So you 
> are telling it, trust me, there is a class definition coming, just wait. :)
> 
> That way you can declare your class members in your @property statements in 
> your h file. Does this make sense?
> 
> Remember, your file names are actually your class names…
> 
> In Objective-C, does importing add everything that was imported to the 
> namespace of the file doing the importing?
> 
> // CQ
> 
> There are no namespaces in objective C. If you want to use namespaces you 
> need to use objective C++.
> 
> Importing makes your imported class available to your file which is doing the 
> importing.
> 
> In Python, you would use dot notation to access variables and classes in 
> imported files; importing only lets you get to them, it does not provide them 
> to you without you needing to specify which file they are from.
> On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex, first off, let me congratulate you on getting your code to run! :)
>> 
>> I'll add some comments below and also ask you to share your h and m files so 
>> I can answer your question you ask in your other note, about why self works.
>> 
>> comments below marked with:
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> Have a great day!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> See my comments below.
>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> Just another quickie for right now as I'm a bit busy. :)
>>> 
>>> • the caraView in the h file is the declaration.
>> Yes, that makes complete sense.
>>> 
>>> • The CaraView in both the h and m files is the class name. (I.E. the type)
>> That also makes perfect sense.
>>> 
>>> • The _caraView in the h file is the way I'm chose to access caraView.
>> Now you've lost me. Is the underscore followed by the class name not 
>> synthesized by the @property statement from the .h file? 
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> It is not the class name which is preceded by the underscore, it is the 
>> object.
>> 
>> The way I read your sentence was that you chose to name the object _caraView 
>> in the .m file, but that is different from what you named it in the @class 
>> statement in the .h file.
>> 
>> // CQ
>> 
>> It sounds like you might be confusing the class and the object. the @class 
>> statement declares the class so what follows that is the class name.
>> 
>> The instance of that class, the object, is what you access to actually use 
>> in your app.
>> 
>> There is more than one way to access your object. YOu can use 
>> self.yourObject and you can use _yourObject. Both of these ways access 
>> yourObject but they do different things.
>> 
>> So for now, just use self.yourObject. :)
>> 
>> Self I understand, or think I do; I  would write things like "self.view", 
>> but what about that firs line where you call the constructor? Is the name 
>> you set there important, or is that where I'd start using self? That is:
>> self = [[MainWindowViewViewController alloc]...
>> Self does not seem to quite fit there because we are not inside 

Re: Libre Office 4.1 accessibility fail

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Holmes
I definitely appreciate your involvement on this project. I find Libreoffice to 
be quite accessible in GNOME plus Orca so would love to see it over here on the 
Mac too. I think the lack of really good office accessibility is a Mac killer 
many blind users.

On Aug 26, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Boris Dušek  wrote:

> Currently I did not do any work on tables (or other objects), only on the 
> editable text itself. Tables are next on my radar after text is working :-)
> 
> On Monday, August 26, 2013 5:55:21 PM UTC+2, Mary Otten wrote:
> Looking forward to this, especially if tables will be navigable in this new 
> version.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Looking forward to the new accessible version. As far as I know there is no 
>> other accessible office suite other than Apple's own iWorks.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 8/25/13 1:38 PM, Boris Dušek wrote:
>>> I am working on fixing LibreOffice accessibility on OS X. Currently focused 
>>> on Writer text component.
>>> The just released LibreOffice 4.0.5 starts providing typing and cursor 
>>> movement echo on OS X 10.7 and 10.8.
>>> 
>>> And LibreOffice 4.1.2 (due in late September) and LibreOffice 4.2 will have 
>>> much better support for text accessibility, including announcing misspelled 
>>> text and other text attributes and searching for them, among others. If you 
>>> would like to get a sneak peak, you can download and try the daily build of 
>>> 4.1 at:
>>> 
>>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/MacOSX-X86_64@43/2013-08-25_07.28.50/master~2013-08-25_07.28.50_LibreOfficeDev_4.2.0.0.alpha0_MacOS_x86-64.dmg
>>> 
>>> I will post to this forum with 4.1.2 is released and hope to get some more 
>>> features/fixes (e.g. accessible links in text) into it before the 4.1.2 
>>> deadline.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Boris
>>> 
>>> On Friday, July 26, 2013 9:53:20 PM UTC+2, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> Subject pretty much says it all. Voiceover support still missing in the 
>>> latest version which came out yesterday. I keep hoping one of these 
>>> office alternatives will finally get it working. 
>>> 
>>> CB 
>>> 
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