Re: charts in pages
Hi, When you are on the edit field, you are on a cell. You can tab or shift-tab to go to the next or previous cell in the row. To move up or down, you press return and shift-return. As far as I can tell, the radio group switches between rows and columns. Now, hear is the problem. To delete a row or column, you need to access a menu by clicking a button next to a cell. You have to find it with the mouse. A cell is actually a scroll are with the text field and menu button, but for some reason vo many times will only see the text field. I have got vo to se the scroll area as it should and I am able to interact with it and see both the button and text field. However, I have no idea how I did it at this time. I recommend checking out the keyboard short cuts in the pages help incase I missed something. Hope that helps. On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I am trying to figure out how to do charts in pages. When I hit the edit data button, I get a dialog with unlabelled buttons, an image, and two edit boxes with numbers. How can I go about actually, typing in data for the chart? This is for every single chart option in the list. thanks. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Airplane Mode on i5S
Just click on it and it will say airplane mode on. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 21/03/2014 04:03, Angus MacKinnon wrote: Everytime I click on Settings/Airplane Mode, Airplane Mode says OFF. How does a person turn on Airplane Mode? Thank you. Angus MacKinnon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
O Movie with voiceover?
Hi. I have some questions for you all. first, has anyone tried to use the latest version of I movie with voiceover? and if so, these are my questions. 1. How can I get an event to my movie project? 2. I am trying to race the audio of a .mov file, but I really can't find a way to do that in I movie. Any help with these 2 things would help a lot! Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: O Movie with voiceover?
Choose create then select a theme. Next choose the cease button. Next type a aneme for the movie. Next choose the event for the movie. Next choose okay. On Mar 21, 2014, at 7:32 AM, KJSC radio kjsc.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have some questions for you all. first, has anyone tried to use the latest version of I movie with voiceover? and if so, these are my questions. 1. How can I get an event to my movie project? 2. I am trying to race the audio of a .mov file, but I really can't find a way to do that in I movie. Any help with these 2 things would help a lot! Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: navigating in the latest version of numbers
Honestly? If that's so, and you were a fan of excel, then maybe I'll give it a try. Is there a good help system for numbers where I can read up on it and get answers? I guess I like excel because I've used it for years with JAWS which is highly tuned to work with excel. How is it working with formulas in numbers? are they easy to set up and edit? is basic navigation around a spreadsheet as easy as it is with excel? (arrow keys with modifiers like control and shift home and end get you anywhere you want to go) My largest sheets have at most two tables, or chunks of continuous data, and range about 100 rows/6 columns, is that what we're calling huge? On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I used to love Excell, used it all the time, and it was one of the main things I would use Windows for even after getting a Mac. But that has changed with the latest Numbers. I love the latest Numbers more than Excell. Now, to kind of bring this conversation back on topic: One of the things that makes Numbers easier for me, and means I can usually avoid having to jump to a specific cell, is the use of multiple tables on one sheet. Because I usually design my sheets to have multiple tables, navigation is much easier. However, I understand some people will have the need for gigantic tables with huge amounts of data, and in those cases it would be good to have such a short cut key to jump to a specific cell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Airplane Mode on i5S
Hi, Double-tap on the Airplane Mode button to toggle it on or off. The double-tap works for most items, if it is a toggle, it will change its state, if it redirects you, then the new screen will activate. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Angus MacKinnon thedog...@gmail.com wrote: Everytime I click on Settings/Airplane Mode, Airplane Mode says OFF. How does a person turn on Airplane Mode? Thank you. Angus MacKinnon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: navigating in the latest version of numbers
Hi there I realize that I said I hated the program you like, but I think I can answer some of your questions although Nic brought up something I had not considered. First, and you may know this already, Numbers will except Excel files that have got Excel formulas, and you can type in Excel formulas into Numbers. You can also save out Excel files, including the newest type of Excel files. Let me give you an example of some of the commands for navigation. Command down arrow will take you to the bottom of the column, and command up arrow will take you all the way to the top. Command left and right arrows go to the end of rows. You can add the shift key to these commands to select. If you press the option key with the left arrow right arrow down arrow or up arrow, you can add columns and rows. I will tell you that there is one change which I wish Apple had not made in the new Numbers. It used to be that you could get to the inspector to change your cell formats, but now it is done differently. It is easy to edit cell formulas, which was not easy in the old Numbers at all. The older version of Numbers had a lot of memory problems, and I can see with spreadsheet as big as yours, you would've had a lot of problems using it. I will say that I haven't yet gotten a sheet with 100 rows yet so I can't yet speak to that. I will by the end of the year get one that big and will find out for myself on that. Regards, Gigi On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly? If that's so, and you were a fan of excel, then maybe I'll give it a try. Is there a good help system for numbers where I can read up on it and get answers? I guess I like excel because I've used it for years with JAWS which is highly tuned to work with excel. How is it working with formulas in numbers? are they easy to set up and edit? is basic navigation around a spreadsheet as easy as it is with excel? (arrow keys with modifiers like control and shift home and end get you anywhere you want to go) My largest sheets have at most two tables, or chunks of continuous data, and range about 100 rows/6 columns, is that what we're calling huge? On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I used to love Excell, used it all the time, and it was one of the main things I would use Windows for even after getting a Mac. But that has changed with the latest Numbers. I love the latest Numbers more than Excell. Now, to kind of bring this conversation back on topic: One of the things that makes Numbers easier for me, and means I can usually avoid having to jump to a specific cell, is the use of multiple tables on one sheet. Because I usually design my sheets to have multiple tables, navigation is much easier. However, I understand some people will have the need for gigantic tables with huge amounts of data, and in those cases it would be good to have such a short cut key to jump to a specific cell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
Since the Mavericks update the accessibility for pages has improved. Tables and numbered and bulleted lists are handled very well in pages. On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Audio Recorder Version 3.2 (322) need basic audio recorder recommendations
Hi Ray, Thanks for that info. When i went there it reminded myself that I have Audio Hijack Pro on my Pro tools box. I contacted them about moving it to my mac mini and they said just download Audio Hijack Pro and put in the serial #. So I did that and bang! Talk soon Chuck CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 Isaiah 26 : 3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. In GOD I Trust On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: You might like Linein for that purpose. Linin is a free app that lets you actually listen to your inputs. To get it, go here: http://rogueamoeba.com/freebies/ It's free and I don't know how any serious audio user on a Mac can do without it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:30 PM, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Is there a basic audio recorder like Audio Recorder Version 3.2 (322) for mavericks available? I just need something to test out my startech usb sound device for in puts and outputs. Basically i want to test continuity for various audio ;ins and outs using that usb startech device. :) May be there is already a basic audio recorder that i missed, on my mac mini, that will work with mavericks? TIA Chuck CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Google Chrome?
Hi List, I have a beta project for a company that requires I use the Google Chrome browser. I have no experience with Google Chrome! Whats the best way to get Google Chrome on my mac mini running mavericks? Also is there any crash courses or youtube tutorials on using Google Chrome? Is it true you half to use Google Chrome screen-reader? TIA CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Google Chrome?
Hi, If you google google chrome, you will get straight to it, simply download it, open the DMG, copy the app to your apps folder and open that. No, you use VoiceOver, and in the main, it's just like using Safari. You can check the keystrokes for commands through the menus, but most things, especially VO, just work the same. Cheers Dave On 21 Mar 2014, at 16:21, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I have a beta project for a company that requires I use the Google Chrome browser. I have no experience with Google Chrome! Whats the best way to get Google Chrome on my mac mini running mavericks? Also is there any crash courses or youtube tutorials on using Google Chrome? Is it true you half to use Google Chrome screen-reader? TIA CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Google Chrome?
Chrome and Safari are actually built on the same base render engine so they are very similar in many respects. Main difference is Chrome is available on most any platform while Safari is just on Apple devices. CB On 3/21/14 9:40 AM, David Taylor wrote: Hi, If you google google chrome, you will get straight to it, simply download it, open the DMG, copy the app to your apps folder and open that. No, you use VoiceOver, and in the main, it's just like using Safari. You can check the keystrokes for commands through the menus, but most things, especially VO, just work the same. Cheers Dave On 21 Mar 2014, at 16:21, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I have a beta project for a company that requires I use the Google Chrome browser. I have no experience with Google Chrome! Whats the best way to get Google Chrome on my mac mini running mavericks? Also is there any crash courses or youtube tutorials on using Google Chrome? Is it true you half to use Google Chrome screen-reader? TIA CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/ 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ż\_(?)_/Ż -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: program recommendation to capture audio/video from an internet stream.
Launch the app then choose New screen recording from the file menu, which is also command-control-N. That will pop a new window and put focus on the start recording button. Hit that to begin. After that, everything on the screen will be recorded to a file. It will say click to record the whole screen. When they say click they really mean it. I couldn't figure out how to start it without clicking the mouse, but at least I didn't have to click anywhere in particular. After that the recorder window will seem to go away but it's really still there. Do whatever you want recorded and when you're done go back to the Quicktime App and then use the Windows Chooser (VO-F2) to pick the Screen Recording window and you'll be dropped on the stop button. Do that and it will pop a new window with the recording in it. From there you can close the window with command-w which will prompt you for a filename and place to save it. CB On 3/20/14 7:06 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Oh cool, how do you go about doing it? On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The answer is that it absolutely will. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: That's probably exactly what I'm looking for, won't that record the audio as well? On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Might not be exactly what you want but the quicktime Player app lets you make a screen recording to a file which you can then play back again later. CB On 3/20/14 5:48 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Ok, I didn't think I'd ever need anything like this, but can anyone recommend a program that will capture the video as well as the audio portion of an internet stream? I'm wanting to record at least the first portion of our on line church service, sense my 4-year-old loves to watch the congrigation sing, and everybody stands up and claps and the like, and on my own end, I like the way our choir sings these songs better than the original artists. Does anyone know of a program that will do this? -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: navigating in the latest version of numbers
thanks, that's useful stuff. of course, you could always make up a large table with dummy data for personal testing purposes instead of waiting for the table to grow large over time. BTW: I just bought numbers and after checking out the help system and tinkering around with a couple of template files, (editing formulas etc), Numbers looks pretty good. I'm going to try and move some of my excel spreadsheet files over to the Mac system and see how it goes. . On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I realize that I said I hated the program you like, but I think I can answer some of your questions although Nic brought up something I had not considered. First, and you may know this already, Numbers will except Excel files that have got Excel formulas, and you can type in Excel formulas into Numbers. You can also save out Excel files, including the newest type of Excel files. Let me give you an example of some of the commands for navigation. Command down arrow will take you to the bottom of the column, and command up arrow will take you all the way to the top. Command left and right arrows go to the end of rows. You can add the shift key to these commands to select. If you press the option key with the left arrow right arrow down arrow or up arrow, you can add columns and rows. I will tell you that there is one change which I wish Apple had not made in the new Numbers. It used to be that you could get to the inspector to change your cell formats, but now it is done differently. It is easy to edit cell formulas, which was not easy in the old Numbers at all. The older version of Numbers had a lot of memory problems, and I can see with spreadsheet as big as yours, you would've had a lot of problems using it. I will say that I haven't yet gotten a sheet with 100 rows yet so I can't yet speak to that. I will by the end of the year get one that big and will find out for myself on that. Regards, Gigi On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly? If that's so, and you were a fan of excel, then maybe I'll give it a try. Is there a good help system for numbers where I can read up on it and get answers? I guess I like excel because I've used it for years with JAWS which is highly tuned to work with excel. How is it working with formulas in numbers? are they easy to set up and edit? is basic navigation around a spreadsheet as easy as it is with excel? (arrow keys with modifiers like control and shift home and end get you anywhere you want to go) My largest sheets have at most two tables, or chunks of continuous data, and range about 100 rows/6 columns, is that what we're calling huge? On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I used to love Excell, used it all the time, and it was one of the main things I would use Windows for even after getting a Mac. But that has changed with the latest Numbers. I love the latest Numbers more than Excell. Now, to kind of bring this conversation back on topic: One of the things that makes Numbers easier for me, and means I can usually avoid having to jump to a specific cell, is the use of multiple tables on one sheet. Because I usually design my sheets to have multiple tables, navigation is much easier. However, I understand some people will have the need for gigantic tables with huge amounts of data, and in those cases it would be good to have such a short cut key to jump to a specific cell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
it'll probably do fine for your limited needs. as far as format checking, you can set VO to announce format changes and use that to format check the document. I just bought pages after being a die hard MS word/JAWS user. I still am, but I'm looking into Pages and it looks like it'll do a fair job for word processing. On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
I still hate pages even with the updates. it's not intuitive and a lot of things are awkward. I really still use Nisus writer for my heavier word processing and recommend it highly. On Mar 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
That fair job is what confuses me. I'd love to know just what Word/Jaws will do that Pages/VO will not, and why people love one over the other. I had to teach someone Word a few months ago, and I had to learn it myself at the same time... It was awful! The ribbon was hard to navigate, changing fonts was confusing and tedious, and something as simple as adding a header was downright arduous. By contrast, I can insert a header and footer in about two seconds in Pages, and it took me only a minute to successfully insert a footnote, even though I've never done that before. VO even jumped right to the footnote text, and announced when it encountered the footnote in my document with a special sound and the words footnote 1. I've never used either Word or Pages for heavy lifting, so to speak, but my relatively brief intros to both seem to indicate that pages is laid out sensibly and is easy to use, where Word is tedious and confusing. Maybe it's just me. Again, I'm asking on behalf of someone who asked me on Twitter, not for myself. Thanks! On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: it'll probably do fine for your limited needs. as far as format checking, you can set VO to announce format changes and use that to format check the document. I just bought pages after being a die hard MS word/JAWS user. I still am, but I'm looking into Pages and it looks like it'll do a fair job for word processing. On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
What sorts of things? Any details people can give on what is easy/confusing in pages would really help. Thanks! On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: I still hate pages even with the updates. it's not intuitive and a lot of things are awkward. I really still use Nisus writer for my heavier word processing and recommend it highly. On Mar 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
I've been holding off replying to this question as I can't compare Pages to MS Word and JAWS. However, since the return of shortcuts for styles, Pages is almost as good as it used to be and in some ways it's better. You can create a template with all the styles you need along with their shortcuts and you can now use footnotes and endnotes, and track changes. Tables are also much easier to handle now but merge fields are still missing so you can't use the Insert menu to pull in your own information from your contacts. There are ready-made templates for several kinds of reports including research paper, and we've created an APA format template. Pages has different ways of doing things from MS Word so you need to take some time to learn it. There are, however, several people on this list who use Pages regularly so help is always at hand. Cheers, Anne On 21 Mar 2014, at 18:50, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: it'll probably do fine for your limited needs. as far as format checking, you can set VO to announce format changes and use that to format check the document. I just bought pages after being a die hard MS word/JAWS user. I still am, but I'm looking into Pages and it looks like it'll do a fair job for word processing. On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Latest Pages for College/Professional Work
Hi Alex, This question may be slightly complicated by the fact that JAWS includes features to make use of MS Word more productive that aren't strictly speaking to do with accessibility. For instance, you can search for changes in text attribute and skim read documents, including pulling out sentences that contain particular keywords. Whether these features are useful or not will depend on what you want to do in Word. That said, all the advanced productivity features in the world don't help if FS then breaks access to the Save As dialog box for a month ... Cheers, Ed On 21 Mar 2014, at 18:08, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: What sorts of things? Any details people can give on what is easy/confusing in pages would really help. Thanks! On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: I still hate pages even with the updates. it's not intuitive and a lot of things are awkward. I really still use Nisus writer for my heavier word processing and recommend it highly. On Mar 21, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, Someone on Twitter was asking me about getting a Mac for college. One concern was word-processing, and whether Pages and Voiceover is good enough for papers, resumes, that sort of thing. I don't use Pages much, so I can't answer accurately, but I know people on here do. So, how is Pages (the Mavericks version) compared with, say, Jaws or NVDA with MS Office? What can you *not* do? What is easier? I've used Pages some, and I love that the header, body, and footer are all separate areas visible at once. However, I've not gone beyond a basic, blank template, except to look at a flyer layout and get very confused. I have no need for page headers, numbering, inserting tables or images, and other advanced features. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Garageband for mac, a great update!
Hello all! Just that, All musicians, go for it, because it si just fantastic. Smart controls and effects are now posible to manage, and the problem of bringing loops to a track is solved. The untagged buttons now are perfect, among other Characteristics. Give it a try and enjoy! Best! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
playing a video on Facebook
How do you play a video in someone;s status on Facebook? I see a play video bit of text but no button and hitting enter, interacting with the text, ext. did nothing. Suggestions? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iBank for the Mac? Is it accessible?bi
I had troubles with iBank version four. I have not tried version 5/5.1 yet. I'll give it a shot for my wife's computer sometime and let you know. The iPhone version is accessible though. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, I found this in the Mac app store and I was wondering if any one on the list is using it and if it is accessible with voiceover? Also, if someone is using it, can you print checks with it like in Quicken? Thanks in advance for your input. Best, Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Google chrome installation problems
Okay, folks I cannot seem to get past opening the initial disk image. First I assume that doing a search takes one to the correct download site, I am typing google chrome for the mac, it appears though I am downloading the correct file. when I click on the disk image with either vo space bar or command o I get google chrome image group and a close button maximize button and minimize button. Only once did I seem to get the true chrome browser when I quit then tried finding it in the apps folders it did not appear. What am I doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Garageband for mac, a great update!
I got the new update last night. It's awesome! Jonnyboy! Iphones rock! On 20 Mar 2014, at 15:46, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! Just that, All musicians, go for it, because it si just fantastic. Smart controls and effects are now posible to manage, and the problem of bringing loops to a track is solved. The untagged buttons now are perfect, among other Characteristics. Give it a try and enjoy! Best! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Music Scores
A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: program recommendation to capture audio/video from an internet stream.
Interesting, will give that a shot. On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Launch the app then choose New screen recording from the file menu, which is also command-control-N. That will pop a new window and put focus on the start recording button. Hit that to begin. After that, everything on the screen will be recorded to a file. It will say click to record the whole screen. When they say click they really mean it. I couldn't figure out how to start it without clicking the mouse, but at least I didn't have to click anywhere in particular. After that the recorder window will seem to go away but it's really still there. Do whatever you want recorded and when you're done go back to the Quicktime App and then use the Windows Chooser (VO-F2) to pick the Screen Recording window and you'll be dropped on the stop button. Do that and it will pop a new window with the recording in it. From there you can close the window with command-w which will prompt you for a filename and place to save it. CB On 3/20/14 7:06 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Oh cool, how do you go about doing it? On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The answer is that it absolutely will. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: That's probably exactly what I'm looking for, won't that record the audio as well? On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Might not be exactly what you want but the quicktime Player app lets you make a screen recording to a file which you can then play back again later. CB On 3/20/14 5:48 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Ok, I didn't think I'd ever need anything like this, but can anyone recommend a program that will capture the video as well as the audio portion of an internet stream? I'm wanting to record at least the first portion of our on line church service, sense my 4-year-old loves to watch the congrigation sing, and everybody stands up and claps and the like, and on my own end, I like the way our choir sings these songs better than the original artists. Does anyone know of a program that will do this? -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Music Scores
Have you looked at lilypond? I'd love a more human-readable format, but it works, I suppose. Sent from my iPad On 2014-mar-21, at 19:02, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Music Scores
Hello, No, sorry, what I want is to enter notation in some accessible ay, and export as an image of a music excerpt. Does that make sense? Thanks, Brandon On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Have you looked at lilypond? I'd love a more human-readable format, but it works, I suppose. Sent from my iPad On 2014-mar-21, at 19:02, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
garage band, update or not and do I really have it
I have an interesting problem or not. APPLE menu and updates on Mini says I have update to garage band. I have tried to download twice and keep getting message: garage band failed to download. Go to purchased page. Mini acts like it has garage band and there is an update. Where do I find it if I have it, and how do I clear off the download if I do not have it. I did not buy it either. Thanks for the help. reggie and Allegra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Music Scores
Here are some ideas: 1, Use Lime and Lime aloud from Dancing dots to enter your notation. Get the free Cute PDF and print your score to PDF. 2, Try The Braille Music Editor version 2.1.4.4. In which you write braille music. Export to music xml. Import the music xml to the notation program of choice and export to pdf or tif from there. \3. There is somewhere on the web an online braille music input program which outputs Printed score, probably in PDF format. I know it exists, I just don't recall the link. js - Original Message - From: Brandon Olivares To: Mac Visionaries Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:02 PM Subject: Music Scores A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Music Scores
O, here it is, The blurb is not my writing: http://bmc.delysid.org/ It's a web based interface that allows you to enter braille code and translates it on the fly to pdf or midi. It's made by the guy who wrote the freedot program. He has the software written for the mac, and is trying currently to transfer it to the windows environment. - Original Message - From: Brandon Olivares To: Mac Visionaries Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:02 PM Subject: Music Scores A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Music Scores
Sorry, I think Lilypond will indeed work. However, is there a way to play back a lilypond file to make sure the notation is correct? I mean to play it audibly. On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Have you looked at lilypond? I'd love a more human-readable format, but it works, I suppose. Sent from my iPad On 2014-mar-21, at 19:02, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: program recommendation to capture audio/video from an internet stream.
Ok, will I constantly need to keep that window in the forground, or can I do other stuff with the computer while that's recording? Aside from that, I can't figure out if I managed to get it up and running or not; still playing around with it. On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Launch the app then choose New screen recording from the file menu, which is also command-control-N. That will pop a new window and put focus on the start recording button. Hit that to begin. After that, everything on the screen will be recorded to a file. It will say click to record the whole screen. When they say click they really mean it. I couldn't figure out how to start it without clicking the mouse, but at least I didn't have to click anywhere in particular. After that the recorder window will seem to go away but it's really still there. Do whatever you want recorded and when you're done go back to the Quicktime App and then use the Windows Chooser (VO-F2) to pick the Screen Recording window and you'll be dropped on the stop button. Do that and it will pop a new window with the recording in it. From there you can close the window with command-w which will prompt you for a filename and place to save it. CB On 3/20/14 7:06 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Oh cool, how do you go about doing it? On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The answer is that it absolutely will. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: That's probably exactly what I'm looking for, won't that record the audio as well? On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Might not be exactly what you want but the quicktime Player app lets you make a screen recording to a file which you can then play back again later. CB On 3/20/14 5:48 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Ok, I didn't think I'd ever need anything like this, but can anyone recommend a program that will capture the video as well as the audio portion of an internet stream? I'm wanting to record at least the first portion of our on line church service, sense my 4-year-old loves to watch the congrigation sing, and everybody stands up and claps and the like, and on my own end, I like the way our choir sings these songs better than the original artists. Does anyone know of a program that will do this? -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Music Scores
LilyPond does have midi playback, but I do not know how it works, only that I've heard it does. js - Original Message - From: Brandon Olivares To: Mac Visionaries Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Music Scores Sorry, I think Lilypond will indeed work. However, is there a way to play back a lilypond file to make sure the notation is correct? I mean to play it audibly. On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Have you looked at lilypond? I'd love a more human-readable format, but it works, I suppose. Sent from my iPad On 2014-mar-21, at 19:02, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: A bit of an odd question, but are there any apps out there that allow you to enter notes in some way and export perhaps an image of the music score? I blog about music, and would like to show excerpts of music I'm working on so I can refer to them. Anyone know of a way I can do this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iBank for the Mac? Is it accessible?bi
hi, That would be great. I'm not in a hurry, because the app itself is not on sale. Another question I have if you can check out in the 5 or 5.1 version, is if you can print the checks through a printer or not. I have a very simple finance program for my PC that I can do this function. Thanks for taking the time to check this app out for me. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote: I had troubles with iBank version four. I have not tried version 5/5.1 yet. I'll give it a shot for my wife's computer sometime and let you know. The iPhone version is accessible though. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, I found this in the Mac app store and I was wondering if any one on the list is using it and if it is accessible with voiceover? Also, if someone is using it, can you print checks with it like in Quicken? Thanks in advance for your input. Best, Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: program recommendation to capture audio/video from an internet stream.
You don't have to keep QuickTime in the foregound. Actually, it would be hard to do a screen recording of anything useful if you did have to keep it in the foreground. CB On 3/21/14 7:16 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Ok, will I constantly need to keep that window in the forground, or can I do other stuff with the computer while that's recording? Aside from that, I can't figure out if I managed to get it up and running or not; still playing around with it. On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Launch the app then choose New screen recording from the file menu, which is also command-control-N. That will pop a new window and put focus on the start recording button. Hit that to begin. After that, everything on the screen will be recorded to a file. It will say click to record the whole screen. When they say click they really mean it. I couldn't figure out how to start it without clicking the mouse, but at least I didn't have to click anywhere in particular. After that the recorder window will seem to go away but it's really still there. Do whatever you want recorded and when you're done go back to the Quicktime App and then use the Windows Chooser (VO-F2) to pick the Screen Recording window and you'll be dropped on the stop button. Do that and it will pop a new window with the recording in it. From there you can close the window with command-w which will prompt you for a filename and place to save it. CB On 3/20/14 7:06 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Oh cool, how do you go about doing it? On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: The answer is that it absolutely will. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: That's probably exactly what I'm looking for, won't that record the audio as well? On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Might not be exactly what you want but the quicktime Player app lets you make a screen recording to a file which you can then play back again later. CB On 3/20/14 5:48 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: Ok, I didn't think I'd ever need anything like this, but can anyone recommend a program that will capture the video as well as the audio portion of an internet stream? I'm wanting to record at least the first portion of our on line church service, sense my 4-year-old loves to watch the congrigation sing, and everybody stands up and claps and the like, and on my own end, I like the way our choir sings these songs better than the original artists. Does anyone know of a program that will do this? -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Google chrome installation problems
It's been a while since I installed Chrome as it self-updates once you have it. Once you open the DMG or DiskiMaGe file you should have an additional fake drive show up. In that fake drive will be the Chrome app. You copy that, go to your Applications folder, and paste. That copies the whole thing to your Apps folder. You can then throw the disk image and the fake drive in the trash. You can then run Chrome from your apps folder. Sounds like you might have been running Chrome from the disk image and never copied it to the Applications folder. CB On 3/21/14 2:52 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote: Okay, folks I cannot seem to get past opening the initial disk image. First I assume that doing a search takes one to the correct download site, I am typing google chrome for the mac, it appears though I am downloading the correct file. when I click on the disk image with either vo space bar or command o I get google chrome image group and a close button maximize button and minimize button. Only once did I seem to get the true chrome browser when I quit then tried finding it in the apps folders it did not appear. What am I doing wrong? -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
playing dvd's
Hi, Is there a way to play a dvd which has multiple programs on it which allows you to select a particular program? I have an imac with the apple external cd/dvd drive. Also, some tv programs have a third channel for audio description. Is there a way to play that channel along with the stereo channels on the mac? Thanks for any info you can provide, Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
