Re: notification center

2014-05-27 Thread Steve Holmes
The hotkey to speak hints on the fly would be VO-Shift-N.

On May 25, 2014, at 12:03 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Jean,
> I think somebody answered your  question about the image reports of no faces  
> earlier. It's in the VO Utility / speech / help tags.  By setting it to "do 
> nothing", help tags, which is what those image descriptions are,  will not be 
> announced. 
> You won't get any other help tags announced either though. I think there is a 
> keystroke to have the help tag spoken on the fly which I can't find right now.
> 
> I can't answer your question about the notification centre, sorry.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 25/05/2014, at 6:43 pm, Jean  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All:
>> 
>> Ever since the last update of Mavericks, the notification center has been 
>> driving me mad.  No matter how many times I check do not disturb it keeps 
>> disturbing me with this and that alert that I don't care about.  Also, I am 
>> getting these messages that say "bright, crisp, no faces."  Is this 
>> something to do with the camera?  How can I make this nonsens stop?
>> Jean
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Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
In a round-about way, I think so, but it might be more trouble than it's worth. 
I might even be wrong about Soundflower enabling this. A quick Google search 
tells me that Apple disables the speakers automatically, which is annoying but 
at least explains why you can't use them. I'd call this an accessibility issue 
- sighted people can listen to music through speakers but still use their macs 
locally, yet VO users are forced to route audio through the external speakers 
and not the internal ones. Rephrase that so it makes more sense (I'm really 
tired and not doing a great job at phrasing things, but you get my point) and 
send it to Apple Accessibility. The only other option I see is Airplay 
speakers, which get very expensive very quickly.
On May 27, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:

> HI all,
> 
> Having said all of this, I've just installed SOundflower is there a way using 
> that I could re route the output on a Macbook air?
> On May 27, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
> 
>> I have the Bose companion 2 speakers, and they do plug in to the headphone 
>> jack of my Macbook air.  When I'm in Vo Utility I only have two devices.
>> On May 27, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>  
>>> I just tested this with my MacBook Air, with both a set of earpods and bose 
>>> speakers and the VO utility only displayed "system output" or "built-in 
>>> output." Both seemed to routte to the headset or speakers, unfortunately.
>>> I don't know if there's a work around, but that's what I experienced.
>>>  
>>> Tristan
>>>  
>>> From: 
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:28 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?
>>>  
>>> I think you can, though I have a Mac Mini and not a Macbook so may be 
>>> wrong. Either way, open up the VO utility and select Sound. Go to the 
>>> "output device" popup button and choose the device you want to use. The 
>>> default will be "system output", which means that VO will use whatever 
>>> device the Mac is set to use in System Preferences. The menu will also 
>>> contain all sound output devices, and you should see something like 
>>> "headphones" and "internal audio" or "internal speakers". Choose the latter 
>>> and VO will go through your internal speakers instead of whatever is 
>>> connected to your headphones. Again, I don't have a Macbook right here to 
>>> try this on, so I might be completely wrong.
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since you plugged them in to the headphone port, no you can't achieve this.
>>> If they were USB or nbluetooth, then you can.
>>>  
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've just gotten a pair of Bose speakers that I'm connecting to the 
>>> headphone port of my laptop.  I'd like to have voiceover continue to play 
>>> through my laptop speakers, and other sound like audio from the web, and 
>>> computer audio play through these external speakers.  Is that possible?
>>> Thanks
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Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Justin Mann
HI all,

Having said all of this, I've just installed SOundflower is there a way using 
that I could re route the output on a Macbook air?
On May 27, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:

> I have the Bose companion 2 speakers, and they do plug in to the headphone 
> jack of my Macbook air.  When I'm in Vo Utility I only have two devices.
> On May 27, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Tristan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>>  
>> I just tested this with my MacBook Air, with both a set of earpods and bose 
>> speakers and the VO utility only displayed "system output" or "built-in 
>> output." Both seemed to routte to the headset or speakers, unfortunately.
>> I don't know if there's a work around, but that's what I experienced.
>>  
>> Tristan
>>  
>> From: 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?
>>  
>> I think you can, though I have a Mac Mini and not a Macbook so may be wrong. 
>> Either way, open up the VO utility and select Sound. Go to the "output 
>> device" popup button and choose the device you want to use. The default will 
>> be "system output", which means that VO will use whatever device the Mac is 
>> set to use in System Preferences. The menu will also contain all sound 
>> output devices, and you should see something like "headphones" and "internal 
>> audio" or "internal speakers". Choose the latter and VO will go through your 
>> internal speakers instead of whatever is connected to your headphones. 
>> Again, I don't have a Macbook right here to try this on, so I might be 
>> completely wrong.
>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Since you plugged them in to the headphone port, no you can't achieve this.
>> If they were USB or nbluetooth, then you can.
>>  
>> Matt Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've just gotten a pair of Bose speakers that I'm connecting to the 
>> headphone port of my laptop.  I'd like to have voiceover continue to play 
>> through my laptop speakers, and other sound like audio from the web, and 
>> computer audio play through these external speakers.  Is that possible?
>> Thanks
>> 
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Terminal commands, wasRe: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
 Oh, I like those. :) I'm going to have to try those to put in my tag line. I 
only have the same eight being randomized, so I need more.

Teresa

“Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. Feynman

On May 27, 2014, at 8:27 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> Back in the day there was also the 'fortune' command which I noticed is still 
> available from MacPorts as well. Outputs old time sayings like:
> 
> A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake 
> without ketchup and mustard.
> There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.
> -- Churchill
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> -- Groucho Marx
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/27/14, 7:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>> I use the commands from the lrzsz sackage from the command line, installed 
>> via macports.
>> 
>> As for the cable, as the end that goes into the braillelite is the 
>> non-standard part of the serial cable, the last time I checked Freedom 
>> Scientific still had them but that was a while ago. For the usb cable, I 
>> have used keyspan and prolific but the last time I checked I could install 
>> the prolific driver on the Mac but not the keyspan. Of course it attaches to 
>> the serial cable and you end up with a /dev/usbserial device name.
>> 
>> 
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>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
>>> still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.
>>> 
>>> http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html
>>> 
>>> I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still 
>>> get one? If so, from where?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, all,
 
 I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
 Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
 communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
 with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
 just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there 
 a way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
 updated that would allow me to do this?
 
 just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is 
 compatible with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker 
 features. i also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy 
 it for the foreseeable future.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Justin Mann
I have the Bose companion 2 speakers, and they do plug in to the headphone jack 
of my Macbook air.  When I'm in Vo Utility I only have two devices.
On May 27, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>  
> I just tested this with my MacBook Air, with both a set of earpods and bose 
> speakers and the VO utility only displayed "system output" or "built-in 
> output." Both seemed to routte to the headset or speakers, unfortunately.
> I don't know if there's a work around, but that's what I experienced.
>  
> Tristan
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?
>  
> I think you can, though I have a Mac Mini and not a Macbook so may be wrong. 
> Either way, open up the VO utility and select Sound. Go to the "output 
> device" popup button and choose the device you want to use. The default will 
> be "system output", which means that VO will use whatever device the Mac is 
> set to use in System Preferences. The menu will also contain all sound output 
> devices, and you should see something like "headphones" and "internal audio" 
> or "internal speakers". Choose the latter and VO will go through your 
> internal speakers instead of whatever is connected to your headphones. Again, 
> I don't have a Macbook right here to try this on, so I might be completely 
> wrong.
> On May 27, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> 
> Since you plugged them in to the headphone port, no you can't achieve this.
> If they were USB or nbluetooth, then you can.
>  
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>  
>  
> 
>  
> On May 27, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just gotten a pair of Bose speakers that I'm connecting to the headphone 
> port of my laptop.  I'd like to have voiceover continue to play through my 
> laptop speakers, and other sound like audio from the web, and computer audio 
> play through these external speakers.  Is that possible?
> Thanks
> 
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RE: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Tristan
Hi Alex,

 

I just tested this with my MacBook Air, with both a set of earpods and bose
speakers and the VO utility only displayed "system output" or "built-in
output." Both seemed to routte to the headset or speakers, unfortunately.

I don't know if there's a work around, but that's what I experienced.

 

Tristan

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

 

I think you can, though I have a Mac Mini and not a Macbook so may be wrong.
Either way, open up the VO utility and select Sound. Go to the "output
device" popup button and choose the device you want to use. The default will
be "system output", which means that VO will use whatever device the Mac is
set to use in System Preferences. The menu will also contain all sound
output devices, and you should see something like "headphones" and "internal
audio" or "internal speakers". Choose the latter and VO will go through your
internal speakers instead of whatever is connected to your headphones.
Again, I don't have a Macbook right here to try this on, so I might be
completely wrong.

On May 27, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Matt Dierckens mailto:matt.dierck...@gmail.com> > wrote:





Since you plugged them in to the headphone port, no you can't achieve this.

If they were USB or nbluetooth, then you can.

 

Matt Dierckens

Macintosh Trainer

Blind Access Training

www.blindaccesstraining.com  

1-877-774-7670 ext. 4

 

 

 

On May 27, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Justin Mann mailto:w9...@me.com>
> wrote:





Hi all,

I've just gotten a pair of Bose speakers that I'm connecting to the
headphone port of my laptop.  I'd like to have voiceover continue to play
through my laptop speakers, and other sound like audio from the web, and
computer audio play through these external speakers.  Is that possible?
Thanks

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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Back in the day there was also the 'fortune' command which I noticed is 
still available from MacPorts as well. Outputs old time sayings like:


A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake 
without ketchup and mustard.

There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result.
-- Churchill
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
-- Groucho Marx

CB

On 5/27/14, 7:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
I use the commands from the lrzsz sackage from the command line, 
installed via macports.


As for the cable, as the end that goes into the braillelite is the 
non-standard part of the serial cable, the last time I checked Freedom 
Scientific still had them but that was a while ago. For the usb cable, 
I have used keyspan and prolific but the last time I checked I could 
install the prolific driver on the Mac but not the keyspan. Of course 
it attaches to the serial cable and you end up with a /dev/usbserial 
device name.




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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
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On May 27, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:



Hello,

I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see 
I can still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.


http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html

I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I 
still get one? If so, from where?


Thanks.

Gena
On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran > wrote:



Hi, all,

I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old 
braille Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that 
uses serial communication and allows me to transfer files to and 
from the Braille Lite with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm 
looking for a backup method, just in case this app is discontinued 
or anything else comes up. Is there a way to do this in Terminal? 
Are there other apps that are still being updated that would allow 
me to do this?


just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is 
compatible with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other 
notetaker features. i also am looking hard at the Perkins 
MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the foreseeable future.


Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
I think you can, though I have a Mac Mini and not a Macbook so may be wrong. 
Either way, open up the VO utility and select Sound. Go to the "output device" 
popup button and choose the device you want to use. The default will be "system 
output", which means that VO will use whatever device the Mac is set to use in 
System Preferences. The menu will also contain all sound output devices, and 
you should see something like "headphones" and "internal audio" or "internal 
speakers". Choose the latter and VO will go through your internal speakers 
instead of whatever is connected to your headphones. Again, I don't have a 
Macbook right here to try this on, so I might be completely wrong.
On May 27, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Since you plugged them in to the headphone port, no you can't achieve this.
> If they were USB or nbluetooth, then you can.
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've just gotten a pair of Bose speakers that I'm connecting to the 
>> headphone port of my laptop.  I'd like to have voiceover continue to play 
>> through my laptop speakers, and other sound like audio from the web, and 
>> computer audio play through these external speakers.  Is that possible?
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Re: changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Matt Dierckens
Since you plugged them in to the headphone port, no you can't achieve this.
If they were USB or nbluetooth, then you can.

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changing the speakers that voiceover uses?

2014-05-27 Thread Justin Mann
Hi all,

I've just gotten a pair of Bose speakers that I'm connecting to the headphone 
port of my laptop.  I'd like to have voiceover continue to play through my 
laptop speakers, and other sound like audio from the web, and computer audio 
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

Forgive me Teresa, but I must ask this question.
Where do you get those tag lines? Is this a mac application?
I mean I tend to approach our posts very carefully.  I am likely to spill 
something from laughter!

Whirled peas?
ROFL!
Kare

On Tue, 27 May 2014, Teresa Cochran wrote:


Check with Freedom scientific for accessories. Otherwise, they might be sold on 
EBay. You'll definitely need a uSB0to-serial adapter. I think the model I use 
is discontinued. It's the Keyspan USAH98, I believe. I bet those will disappear 
in time, too

Teresa.

Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On May 27, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:


Hello,

I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.

http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html

I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still get 
one? If so, from where?

Thanks.

Gena
On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran  wrote:


Hi, all,

I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille Lite 
40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite with 
the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, just in 
case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a way to do 
this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being updated that would 
allow me to do this?

just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
foreseeable future.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I use the commands from the lrzsz sackage from the command line, installed via 
macports.

As for the cable, as the end that goes into the braillelite is the non-standard 
part of the serial cable, the last time I checked Freedom Scientific still had 
them but that was a while ago. For the usb cable, I have used keyspan and 
prolific but the last time I checked I could install the prolific driver on the 
Mac but not the keyspan. Of course it attaches to the serial cable and you end 
up with a /dev/usbserial device name.


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> On May 27, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
> still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.
> 
> http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html
> 
> I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still get 
> one? If so, from where?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Gena
>> On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
>> Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
>> communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
>> with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
>> just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
>> way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
>> updated that would allow me to do this?
>> 
>> just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
>> with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
>> also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
>> foreseeable future.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>> 
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Check with Freedom scientific for accessories. Otherwise, they might be sold on 
EBay. You'll definitely need a uSB0to-serial adapter. I think the model I use 
is discontinued. It's the Keyspan USAH98, I believe. I bet those will disappear 
in time, too

Teresa.

Teresa

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On May 27, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
> still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.
> 
> http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html
> 
> I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still get 
> one? If so, from where?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Gena
> On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
>> Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
>> communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
>> with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
>> just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
>> way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
>> updated that would allow me to do this?
>> 
>> just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
>> with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
>> also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
>> foreseeable future.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>> 
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Chris. I'll definitely look into this.

Teresa

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On May 27, 2014, at 2:19 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> Apparently the screen command can do this:
> 
> http://serverfault.com/questions/81544/hidden-features-of-screen/81548#81548
> 
> From terminal you can do 
> 
> man screen
> 
> for more details. That is, if the ancient ZTerm ever stops working. Been a 
> long time since I played with PPP to get USENet feeds via UUCP for my BBS.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/27/14, 4:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
>> Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
>> communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
>> with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
>> just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
>> way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being 
>> updated that would allow me to do this?
>> 
>> just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
>> with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
>> also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
>> foreseeable future.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

I am about to do the same. In the good old days I used minicom. I see I can 
still use it. There are a few choices discussed here.

http://pbxbook.com/other/mac-tty.html

I need a lead. Typical BrailleLite's use non standard cables. Can I still get 
one? If so, from where?

Thanks.

Gena
On 27 May 2014, at 21:33, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille 
> Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
> communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite 
> with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, 
> just in case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a 
> way to do this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being updated 
> that would allow me to do this?
> 
> just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
> with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
> also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
> foreseeable future.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
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Re: Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Apparently the screen command can do this:

http://serverfault.com/questions/81544/hidden-features-of-screen/81548#81548

From terminal you can do

man screen

for more details. That is, if the ancient ZTerm ever stops working. Been 
a long time since I played with PPP to get USENet feeds via UUCP for my BBS.


CB

On 5/27/14, 4:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, all,

I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old 
braille Lite 40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that 
uses serial communication and allows me to transfer files to and from 
the Braille Lite with the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking 
for a backup method, just in case this app is discontinued or anything 
else comes up. Is there a way to do this in Terminal? Are there other 
apps that are still being updated that would allow me to do this?


just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is 
compatible with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other 
notetaker features. i also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, 
but can't buy it for the foreseeable future.


Thanks,
Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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Why QuickTime and AVI or ASF don't mix

2014-05-27 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Every so often a discussion comes up on the list around difficulties 
accessing AVI or ASF video/audio files on the Mac. Just found this 
article that gives a deep dive into the early 90s Apple/Microsoft 
battles over QuickTiime in the midst of the browser wars, the damage 
from which live on to this day:


http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/5F0C866C-6DDF-4A9A-9515-531B0CA0C29C.html

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Serial communication in Terminal?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I know I'm a dinosaur, but I can't seem to part with my trusty old braille Lite 
40. I have an application on the Mac called ZTerm that uses serial 
communication and allows me to transfer files to and from the Braille Lite with 
the help of a USB-to-serial adapter. I'm looking for a backup method, just in 
case this app is discontinued or anything else comes up. Is there a way to do 
this in Terminal? Are there other apps that are still being updated that would 
allow me to do this?

just to clarify, I do have a stand-alone Braille display that is compatible 
with the Mac, but doesn't have a book reader or other notetaker features. i 
also am looking hard at the Perkins MiniBraille, but can't buy it for the 
foreseeable future.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ah yes, be careful. LOL It might be fun, though. I taught lots of people to 
type with the help of Talking Typer, so these are very useful applications. 
I've even played the games on them myself from time to time. So I'd definitely 
get one for the Mac to practice with myself. The tag line in this email comes 
from something i blurted out to a student when he was going nowhere by typing 
too fast in Talking Typer. We both laughed a over it. :)

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Katie, I have emailed them, thanks.
> 
> Teresa, that does make sense. It seems reasonably simple to make, though 
> "seems" is the operative word.
> On May 27, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, alex,
>> 
>> Basically, a program like this would introduce various sets of letters as 
>> you go from lesson to lesson. Then it would verbally tell you what to type, 
>> along with a magnified command for those with low vision. It would buzz and 
>> not let you proceed until you got it right. It would include some games, 
>> such as typing dictation or typing letters faster and faster as they 
>> appeared.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> teresa
>> 
>> Visualize whirled peas.
>> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, 
>>> but I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing 
>>> else, I could offer advice or prototypes.
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version 
 of Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know 
 how to program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a 
 developer. They're looking for someone that knows how to create apps with 
 Voiceover.
 Katie
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 
> Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the 
> last. This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app 
> is being used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear 
> that a Mac version will be released soon. The developer previously was 
> employed with Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and 
>> interactive called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom 
>> and step father David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that 
>> sells the typing program. You can visit their website at 
>> www.yesaccessible.com to get more info about it. They will be creating a 
>> version of this for the Mac soon.
>> Katie
>> On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the 
>>> Mac.  I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking 
>>> Typer from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good 
>>> typing program that works well with VO please let me know.  I really 
>>> appreciate your help!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeremiah
>>> 
>>> _
>>> Jeremiah Beasley
>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
>>> Web: www.wcbvi.k12.wi.us
>>> iAccess Blog: www.iaccessblog.com
>>> Phone: 608.758.6157
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
Katie, I have emailed them, thanks.

Teresa, that does make sense. It seems reasonably simple to make, though 
"seems" is the operative word.
On May 27, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, alex,
> 
> Basically, a program like this would introduce various sets of letters as you 
> go from lesson to lesson. Then it would verbally tell you what to type, along 
> with a magnified command for those with low vision. It would buzz and not let 
> you proceed until you got it right. It would include some games, such as 
> typing dictation or typing letters faster and faster as they appeared.
> 
> Hth,
> teresa
> 
> Visualize whirled peas.
> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, 
>> but I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing 
>> else, I could offer advice or prototypes.
>> On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version of 
>>> Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know how to 
>>> program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a developer. 
>>> They're looking for someone that knows how to create apps with Voiceover.
>>> Katie
>>> 
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the 
 last. This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app 
 is being used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that 
 a Mac version will be released soon. The developer previously was employed 
 with Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
 
> Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and 
> interactive called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom 
> and step father David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that 
> sells the typing program. You can visit their website at 
> www.yesaccessible.com to get more info about it. They will be creating a 
> version of this for the Mac soon.
> Katie
> On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac. 
>>  I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer 
>> from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing 
>> program that works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate 
>> your help!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremiah
>> 
>> _
>> Jeremiah Beasley
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
>> Web: www.wcbvi.k12.wi.us
>> iAccess Blog: www.iaccessblog.com
>> Phone: 608.758.6157
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, alex,

Basically, a program like this would introduce various sets of letters as you 
go from lesson to lesson. Then it would verbally tell you what to type, along 
with a magnified command for those with low vision. It would buzz and not let 
you proceed until you got it right. It would include some games, such as typing 
dictation or typing letters faster and faster as they appeared.

Hth,
teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On May 27, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, 
> but I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing 
> else, I could offer advice or prototypes.
> On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version of 
>> Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know how to 
>> program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a developer. 
>> They're looking for someone that knows how to create apps with Voiceover.
>> Katie
>> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the last. 
>>> This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app is being 
>>> used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that a Mac 
>>> version will be released soon. The developer previously was employed with 
>>> Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
>>> 
>>> Eileen 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
 called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
 David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing 
 program. You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more 
 info about it. They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
 Katie
 On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> 
> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  
> I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer 
> from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing 
> program that works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate 
> your help!
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
> 
> _
> Jeremiah Beasley
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
> Web: www.wcbvi.k12.wi.us
> iAccess Blog: www.iaccessblog.com
> Phone: 608.758.6157
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, Alex. I already gave them your email address. If you want to contact 
YesAccessible  directly and let them know you're interested in creating a Mac 
version of Typeability , their email is i...@yesaccessible.com.
Thanks. Hope that helps.
Katie
On May 27, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, 
> but I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing 
> else, I could offer advice or prototypes.
> On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version of 
>> Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know how to 
>> program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a developer. 
>> They're looking for someone that knows how to create apps with Voiceover.
>> Katie
>> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the last. 
>>> This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app is being 
>>> used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that a Mac 
>>> version will be released soon. The developer previously was employed with 
>>> Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
>>> 
>>> Eileen 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
 called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
 David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing 
 program. You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more 
 info about it. They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
 Katie
 On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> 
> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  
> I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer 
> from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing 
> program that works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate 
> your help!
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
> 
> _
> Jeremiah Beasley
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
> Web: www.wcbvi.k12.wi.us
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> Phone: 608.758.6157
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Re: Apple Hardware Test and Voiceover?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
I suspected as much, but thought since the installer uses voiceover, there 
might be a chance. Thanks.

teresa

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dark to read."--Groucho Marx

On May 27, 2014, at 4:12 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> I don't think so as it runs before Os X.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 27/05/2014 08:51, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I've had a chronic optical-drive issue and was curious if AHT would help me 
>> out. Let's just say that the drive even spits out the cleaning disk, even 
>> after many restarts and NVrAM resets, etc. Is it accessible? Any pointers 
>> you can give would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>> 
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
Feel free to give them my email address. I don't have a lot of experience, but 
I know what I'm doing with Objective-C, Xcode, and Cocoa. If nothing else, I 
could offer advice or prototypes.
On May 27, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:

> Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version of 
> Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know how to 
> program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a developer. They're 
> looking for someone that knows how to create apps with Voiceover.
> Katie
> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the last. 
>> This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app is being 
>> used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that a Mac 
>> version will be released soon. The developer previously was employed with 
>> Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
>> 
>> Eileen 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
>>> called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
>>> David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing 
>>> program. You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more 
>>> info about it. They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
>>> Katie
>>> On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  
 I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer 
 from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program 
 that works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
 
 Thanks,
 Jeremiah
 
 _
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 Assistive Technology Specialist
 Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, Eileen. I know it would be great if Yes Accessible had a Mac version of 
Typeability now. David would like to work on it, but he doesn't know how to 
program for the Mac. I think the only thing they need is a developer. They're 
looking for someone that knows how to create apps with Voiceover.
Katie

On May 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

> Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the last. 
> This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app is being 
> used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that a Mac 
> version will be released soon. The developer previously was employed with 
> Dancing Dots. Just some FYI.
> 
> Eileen 
> 
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> On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
>> called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
>> David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing 
>> program. You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more 
>> info about it. They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
>> Katie
>> On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
>>> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
>>> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
>>> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeremiah
>>> 
>>> _
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>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Thanks Katie for jogging my memory. I got the first part, but not the last. 
This app was recommended by another AT trainer here in CA. The app is being 
used throughout lower and higher education. I'm glad to hear that a Mac version 
will be released soon. The developer previously was employed with Dancing Dots. 
Just some FYI.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
> called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
> David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing 
> program. You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more 
> info about it. They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
> Katie
>> On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
>> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
>> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
>> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremiah
>> 
>> _
>> Jeremiah Beasley
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
I assume that these instructions are in the form of audio or synthesized 
speech, rather than text? Do these programs do anything other than tell you 
where the keys are and have you press them?
On May 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
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> Hi,
> Yes something to teach how to work from  "home row"
> I have people that I tutor using Pro tools that could use the basics! :)
> IE use your left index finger from the home row to press the letter "r" for 
> instance.
> also Mac orientated for the control , option and command keys.
> I've been using home row style for years but would like to get the speed up 
> just like drumming!
> Talk soon
> Chuck
> Chuck
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> On May 27, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Jessica wrote:
> 
>> I would be interested in something like this as well.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 11:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
>>> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
>>> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
>>> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeremiah
>>> 
>>> _
>>> Jeremiah Beasley
>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, Jeremiah. There's a program for the PC that's very fun and interactive 
called Typeability. Kids and adults really love it! My mom and step father 
David Pinto have a company called Yes Accessible that sells the typing program. 
You can visit their website at www.yesaccessible.com to get more info about it. 
They will be creating a version of this for the Mac soon.
Katie
On May 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
> 
> _
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> Assistive Technology Specialist
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> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi,
Yes something to teach how to work from  "home row"
I have people that I tutor using Pro tools that could use the basics! :)
IE use your left index finger from the home row to press the letter "r" for 
instance.
also Mac orientated for the control , option and command keys.
I've been using home row style for years but would like to get the speed up 
just like drumming!
Talk soon
Chuck
Chuck

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On May 27, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Jessica wrote:

> I would be interested in something like this as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 11:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
>> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
>> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
>> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremiah
>> 
>> _
>> Jeremiah Beasley
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread jbeasley
Hey Alex,

It would be nice it it was a game that walked you through learning to type. 
 First talking about the home row and then moving forward from there.  It 
would be nice if it could give you timings of how fast you typed after each 
level and how many errors you made.   I think that this would be very 
popular as many schools are now installing Macs in their computer labs and 
classrooms.  We have several programs for Windows but none that I know of 
for the Mac.

Thanks so much!
Jeremiah

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:32:22 AM UTC-5, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> Okay, anyone interested, please tell me what this app should have. Is it a 
> matching thing, where the app tells you to press a key and you have to 
> press it within a set time? Is it some kind of game? I've not used one, but 
> if it is simple enough, maybe I can put one together. No promises at this 
> point, but I need somewhere to start.
> On May 27, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Jessica > 
> wrote:
>
> I would be interested in something like this as well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 27, 2014, at 11:18 AM, jbea...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
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>  I am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer 
> from APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program 
> that works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
>
> _
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, anyone interested, please tell me what this app should have. Is it a 
matching thing, where the app tells you to press a key and you have to press it 
within a set time? Is it some kind of game? I've not used one, but if it is 
simple enough, maybe I can put one together. No promises at this point, but I 
need somewhere to start.
On May 27, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Jessica  wrote:

> I would be interested in something like this as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 27, 2014, at 11:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
>> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
>> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
>> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremiah
>> 
>> _
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>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Jessica
I would be interested in something like this as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 27, 2014, at 11:18 AM, jbeas...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
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> am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
> 
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
I don't know of one, but maybe someone can make it. Can you describe the 
features it would need? I've never used a typing teaching program at all, so 
would have no idea what to even look for. If nothing else, a feature set would 
tell me how difficult it might be to create.
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> 
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> APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
> works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
> 
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> jbeasley at wcbvi dot k12 dot wi dot us
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Re: Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread isaac
I am looking for a typing program for the mac but so far I can only find for 
windows.
isaac
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> 
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> 
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> Jeremiah
> 
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Typing program for blind students

2014-05-27 Thread jbeasley
Hello all,

I am looking for a typing program to use with blind students on the Mac.  I 
am wanting something like the Talking Typing Teacher or Talking Typer from 
APH.  If anyone knows of a program like this or a good typing program that 
works well with VO please let me know.  I really appreciate your help!

Thanks,
Jeremiah

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Jeremiah Beasley
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Wisconsin Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired
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Re: mac ports

2014-05-27 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Never heard of Grade. Is this a Mac or Linux app? The Unix side of OSX 
is quite capable of automating things through scripts. If the grades 
package you want to use will export into a CSV (comma separated values) 
file you should be able to import that into Numbers.


CB

On 5/27/14, 9:18 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

I decided to install Mac ports for better capabilities for what I need.  I am 
wanting to download grade off a https web site.  I want to use Mac Ports rather 
than Apple script or maybe both if needed to put my grades in to a numbers 
spread sheet.  How would you suggest I do this?




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mac ports

2014-05-27 Thread Scott Berry
Hello there,

I decided to install Mac ports for better capabilities for what I need.  I am 
wanting to download grade off a https web site.  I want to use Mac Ports rather 
than Apple script or maybe both if needed to put my grades in to a numbers 
spread sheet.  How would you suggest I do this?


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Re: Typing On The IPhone's On-Screen Keyboard

2014-05-27 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi again
I don't bother with the AutoCorrect feature unless, like you said, it's the 
word I want. However, most of the time I don't even listen because it's faster 
just to keep going.
Sincerely,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I can't figure out the auto-correct feature all that well, if it picks up the 
> word right away, I'm fine with it, but if I need to scroll through the list, 
> I'm out of luck, sense I have no idea how to find it, same with the mac, 
> which is frustrating.
>> On May 26, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> When typing on the phone I take advantage of shortcuts and also autocorrect. 
>> For example, you never have to capitalize the first letter of a sentence or 
>> put in an apostrophe, the phone will do those things. I use a keyboard or my 
>> braille display for long typing or significant editing but I use the phone 
>> screen a surprising amount. if you keep practicing you'll get good speed and 
>> accuracy.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I was recently having a discussion with a friend about how to type on the 
>>> on-screen keyboard of the iPhone.  Personally, I don't particularly like to 
>>> use a special program for this like, for instance, mBraill or Fleksy.  I 
>>> just want to use the regular keyboard.  Dictation can be useful, but of 
>>> course, sometimes, it's just nice to be able to type something relatively 
>>> privately.  I have built up some speed over the past 3 years, but I would 
>>> like to get faster.  I generally hold my phone in my left hand, and use my 
>>> right index finger to type, anchoring my thumb down where the connector is 
>>> at the bottom of the phone.  I'm interested to know how others who type 
>>> using the regular on-screen keyboard, enter your text.  I do happen to use 
>>> Touch Typing mode, but I would also be interested in what typing mode you 
>>> use.  And, does anyone else besides me just use the regular on-screen 
>>> keyboard for their typing needs?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Desi
>>> 
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Re: Apple Hardware Test and Voiceover?

2014-05-27 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

I don't think so as it runs before Os X.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 27/05/2014 08:51, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, all,

I've had a chronic optical-drive issue and was curious if AHT would help me 
out. Let's just say that the drive even spits out the cleaning disk, even after 
many restarts and NVrAM resets, etc. Is it accessible? Any pointers you can 
give would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.



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Re: question about accessible music converter for mac

2014-05-27 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I can attest to the truth of this statement.  She is correct.  The very nominal 
cost of this little tool is very well worth it.  


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On May 27, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Hi!
> Easy converter will do the trick. Accessible and easy to use.
> You can find it in the App Store.
> Best
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> 
> El 25/05/2014, a las 23:10, Brent Harbolt  escribió:
> 
>> Hi all. I am looking for an accessible music converter that will work on a 
>> mac. I want to convert music files from things like wav to mp3 and such. Can 
>> anyone recommend anything? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>>   Blessings,
>> 
>> Brent Harbolt
>> 
>>  Sent from my MacBook Pro
>> "Once you go MAC, you'll never go back!"
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Apple Hardware Test and Voiceover?

2014-05-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I've had a chronic optical-drive issue and was curious if AHT would help me 
out. Let's just say that the drive even spits out the cleaning disk, even after 
many restarts and NVrAM resets, etc. Is it accessible? Any pointers you can 
give would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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