Airmail for Mac a great replacement for Apple Mail

2014-08-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Please could you check this out and report on its accessibility? Thanks!
Airmail for Mac a great replacement for Apple Mail
by MacDailyNews
[cfsp key=adsense_336x280]After Mac OS X 10.8, Apple Mail has been 
going downhill by every update. It's weird because the iOS Mail app is 
rock solid, Jack Zimmermann writes for JackenHack. Apple Mail has 
become a slow, unreliable application although they have fixed some of 
the more serious problems in the latest release. For the first time in 
many years, I was on the lookout for a new email client software.
I wanted to be able to have both of my private and work email accounts 
in the same program, but have them totally separate to make life easier, 
and after searching the net I found an application called Airmail 
[introductory price: $1.99], Zimmermann writes. Airmail is fast. I 
mean, really fast! I just bought a new MacBook Pro 15 Retina with a 
2.5Ghz Intel i7, so it's probably not the best computer to pass any 
judgement on the speed of an application, but my computer at work is a 
three year old MacBook Pro and Airmail feels very fast on that machine 
as well.


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Slow startup.

2014-08-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
When i first bought my mac mini mid 2011 it was quite fast in its startup.
Now a days i think it takes 2 or 3 minutes for it before voiceover comes to 
live.
The only thing i've tried is to use onyx which helps a litle bit but not very 
much.
Are there any other sollutions out there?
Or am i just an unpatient selfish one?
Thanks.
/A

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Re: iblink

2014-08-15 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi.  got it and so far Im pretty impressed.  no crashes or anything. I have 
signed up for a 14 day trial of sam net. 
Maria and Joe Chapman
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On 13 Aug 2014, at 10:59 pm, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes it is. Feel free to grab it and give it a spin. Thanks.
 
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  HI is this app available in the app store?
 Cheers 
 Maria  
 
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 Hi list great news iblink radio is now coming to the mac and it will go 
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Airmail, we're not there yet

2014-08-15 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I took the plunge and bought Airmail just for the heck of it. Airmail has many 
features which i think could be good but as almost always the accessibility is 
quite poor. The main window contains lots of tables which appear to be empty 
although they probably aren’t. I’m sure someone can figure out what these 
tables are if we wanted to. There are also a lot of unlabeled buttons, however 
if one wishes to label those buttons, most of them have tool tips so they can 
actually be labeled. (when will voiceover implement an auto graphics labeler 
that works in the same way as the one JFW has?)
One of the tables i mentioned in the main window is actually populated with 
both a message list and a preview pane of the messages. All fields are readable 
except the one that says who the message is from and if there’s any To-field 
it’s undreadable too.
Verdict: Airmail can be used, but at this stage i personally prefer to stick to 
Apple mail, however it has potential, and so a little polite advocacy is 
needed. 
Hope this makes sense.
/Krister

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Re: Airmail, we're not there yet

2014-08-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Thank you or trying this for us. I encourage you to contact the app's 
developers and inform them of the accessibility issues you experience 
with this app. Hopefully they will take your concerns seriously and do 
something about them. Thanks again and take care.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 15/08/2014 10:47, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
I took the plunge and bought Airmail just for the heck of it. Airmail has many 
features which i think could be good but as almost always the accessibility is 
quite poor. The main window contains lots of tables which appear to be empty 
although they probably aren’t. I’m sure someone can figure out what these 
tables are if we wanted to. There are also a lot of unlabeled buttons, however 
if one wishes to label those buttons, most of them have tool tips so they can 
actually be labeled. (when will voiceover implement an auto graphics labeler 
that works in the same way as the one JFW has?)
One of the tables i mentioned in the main window is actually populated with 
both a message list and a preview pane of the messages. All fields are readable 
except the one that says who the message is from and if there’s any To-field 
it’s undreadable too.
Verdict: Airmail can be used, but at this stage i personally prefer to stick to 
Apple mail, however it has potential, and so a little polite advocacy is needed.
Hope this makes sense.
/Krister



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RE: Time Machine question

2014-08-15 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.

No, no longer getting backups.  Getting backup failed messages, says to
change disk.  I would have thought it would delete old backups
automatically, doesn't seem to be happening for me.

 

 

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Subject: Re: Time Machine question

 

Hi Bill,

 

Time Machine should do this automatically. Check under System
PreferencesTime Machine to see if it's still backing up. There will also be
an options button near the lower-right corner of the window; here you can
configure if Time Machine notifies you when it deletes an old backup to make
room. Let us know whether Time Machine is still doing backups.

 

Grant

 

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Hi.

My 1tb time machine backup drive is full.  I am backing up a 500 gb drive,
but I have created and later deleted a number of very large files, which are
still on the backup.  Is there some way I can instruck it to delete the
oldest backups automatically in order to free up disk space?  Thanks.

Bill

 

 

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macs and braille displays

2014-08-15 Thread Jack and Becky
Greeting Folks!  I am a brand spanking new Mac user. Just starting hfind  my 
way about on it. I have a Mac book  Pro. Running  the  latest version of 
Mavericks.  I am using a braille edge and am finding the interface  to be 
somewhat messy.  I should add that I am a deaf person and  Cannot use speech at 
all!  For instance there's a line of dots at the bottom of the display which I 
believe are called attributes?  This is to say the least somewhat distracting. 
Also though I have my BE. set  to Grade two translation there  is no such 
though strangely enough there is with my pacMate display which doesn't look 
like it will be useable in this regard.  If I am wrong in that someone please 
set me straight.  Anyhoo, where Do I go to find braille settings and how do I 
clean things up just a bit??  Also for those of you if there are any out there 
who use a braille display with your Mac how do you find the experience?? 
Thanking you kindly in advance  I am cordially yoursJack Zimmerman 

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Re: Airmail for Mac a great replacement for Apple Mail

2014-08-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't now remember all the details, but it wasn't accessible enough for me to 
use last time I tried it.

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 Please could you check this out and report on its accessibility? Thanks!
 Airmail for Mac a great replacement for Apple Mail
 by MacDailyNews
 [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]After Mac OS X 10.8, Apple Mail has been going 
 downhill by every update. It's weird because the iOS Mail app is rock solid, 
 Jack Zimmermann writes for JackenHack. Apple Mail has become a slow, 
 unreliable application although they have fixed some of the more serious 
 problems in the latest release. For the first time in many years, I was on 
 the lookout for a new email client software.
 I wanted to be able to have both of my private and work email accounts in 
 the same program, but have them totally separate to make life easier, and 
 after searching the net I found an application called Airmail [introductory 
 price: $1.99], Zimmermann writes. Airmail is fast. I mean, really fast! I 
 just bought a new MacBook Pro 15 Retina with a 2.5Ghz Intel i7, so it's 
 probably not the best computer to pass any judgement on the speed of an 
 application, but my computer at work is a three year old MacBook Pro and 
 Airmail feels very fast on that machine as well.
 
 -- 
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 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
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Re: macs and braille displays

2014-08-15 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Jack,

To reach braille settings on your mac, press control option f8 to open the 
voiceover utility.  Then press b for braille.

The dots 7 and 8 you feel at the bottom of your display indicate that the text 
on the display is highlighted.  For example, you may be reading a paragraph on 
a web page that you want to copy and email to a friend or save in a text file.  
Since the item you are reading is highlighted in voiceover by default, you can 
press control option shift C to copy the last item voiceover spoke to the 
clipboard.  Then you could paste it where you want.

So, that's the reason for the extra dots, though that doesn't make them less 
annoying.  Suffice it to say, you can assume that voiceover has highlighted the 
contents of it's speech buffer and turn the highlight feature off so that it 
can be used for things such as indicating system highlights and/or the position 
of the cursor.  To do this:
Tab to the checkbox called use dots 7 and 8 to indicate cursor and press space 
to uncheck the box.  The result should be instant relief from those constant 
marker dots being displayed.

I find all of these options really messy and uncheck them all.  I can always 
turn them back on if I need to do advanced word processing or some such.

You might also want to adjust the display time for alert messages.

You should be able to get grade two on your braille edge.  Space 1245 or space 
G toggles grade two on and off.  For password entry, web and email address 
fields, you might find it easier to enter text in computer braille than in 
grade two.

If you activate the displays tab, you will have a button in there which shows 
the key bindings for the current braille display.  It should be called assign 
commands or something.  I don't have my display connected right now to double 
check.

You will want to go in there and familiarize yourself with the preset key 
assignments.  I am usually pretty unhappy with the defaults.  Many features 
have two key assignments, while hundreds of available features have none at 
all.  Setting up key bindings for full braille functionality is a tedious 
chore, but once you have it done, you can export your braille settings and save 
them for use on other macs or for re-instalation should you need to reformat.

To test your key assignments, press space plus 13 or space plus K on your 
braille display.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2014-08-15, at 9:07 AM, Jack and Becky ican...@jackzee.org wrote:

 Greeting Folks!  I am a brand spanking new Mac user. Just starting hfind  my 
 way about on it. I have a Mac book  Pro. Running  the  latest version of 
 Mavericks.  I am using a braille edge and am finding the interface  to be 
 somewhat messy.  I should add that I am a deaf person and  Cannot use speech 
 at all!  For instance there's a line of dots at the bottom of the display 
 which I believe are called attributes?  This is to say the least somewhat 
 distracting. Also though I have my BE. set  to Grade two translation there  
 is no such though strangely enough there is with my pacMate display which 
 doesn't look like it will be useable in this regard.  If I am wrong in that 
 someone please set me straight.  Anyhoo, where Do I go to find braille 
 settings and how do I clean things up just a bit??  Also for those of you if 
 there are any out there who use a braille display with your Mac how do you 
 find the experience?? Thanking you kindly in advance  I am cordially yours
 Jack Zimmerman 
 
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Re: macs and braille displays

2014-08-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What Erik has written is much more thorough and clear than what I have written 
below but since there are a few things he didn't say and I don't want to take 
the time to edit, I will send this  as is. If in doubt, defer to what Erik has 
written. Others have also perhaps posted while I was working on this.

Your settings are in voiceover utility under the braille category.
Make sure you have show contracted braille checked.
Use automatic braille translation has more to do with writing than reading. 
Checking this means that translation to grade two will happen as you type but 
the one caveat of this is that he who hesitates may be lost. If you hesitate 
and then keep typing, the typing gets expanded. So for instance, if you type 
the word bicycle and you do bicyc and then hesitate and type the l, you will 
have bicyclike. If you are fast this isn't a problem but I have this unchecked 
so I can take my time. But if you have this unchecked, you won't see your 
braille that you are typing until you either do a space, which of course would 
be at the end of a word, or do chord-dot4.  Of course you can also change 
quickly between contracted and uncontracted braille with chord-g  You can also 
insert a letter without having it expand by doing a letter sign before typing 
the letter. 

If you don't want any extra information, make sure you have status cells 
unchecked.  I think the dots at the bottom to which you are referring are the 
dots 7 and 8 to indicate your cursor/highlighting. Try unchecking use  dots 7 
and 8 to indicate cursor.  

I am noticing that if I use the up-and-down controls on the four-way controller 
on the Edge, I see uncontracted braille so this must be highlighting the lines 
as I go down. If you use the right and left controls instead only the word your 
cursor is on will be uncontracted or at least I think that is what is 
happening. Or if just reading use the advance buttons instead. Sorry, I haven't 
done a lot of writing about this so I probably am not using the right 
terminology for the controls.

One thing I do find distracting is that you see end-of-line indicators 
(probably look like a letter j to you).

The interface for reading on the iPhone and iPad seems much cleaner to me and 
less distracting than that on the Mac and I'm sure there must be  a good  
reason but I don't understand what it is totally. I think most of the 
difference has to do with the highlighting which happens on the Mac but not the 
iPhone and iPad and is eliminated by unchecking use dots 7 and 8 to indicate 
cursor. I've mostly been using my Edge with my i-devices and am just now 
trying to dig in and learn how to use it with my Mac. I also always keep a 
bluetooth keyboard at hand in case I get lost and because there are a few 
things that can't be done with the braille display, but I am sure I will need 
the bluetooth keyboard less and less as I become more proficient.  But 
sometimes it helps me to do a left-or-right arrow with the bluetooth keyboard 
and feel where I am with the braille display  if I become   disoriented. Also 
remember to interact with text when navigating in it; you can look up the 
chording for interacting in the assign commands table in the displays tab 
under braille in voiceover utility.
Hope this helps some. I've tried to do most of this on my braille display as I 
have decided to use it more on my Mac as well as my i-devices, but I am sure I 
have  made mistakes. Unlike you, I can use speech to help so yes, I cheated 
some!


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Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Jack and Becky ican...@jackzee.org wrote:

 Greeting Folks!  I am a brand spanking new Mac user. Just starting hfind  my 
 way about on it. I have a Mac book  Pro. Running  the  latest version of 
 Mavericks.  I am using a braille edge and am finding the interface  to be 
 somewhat messy.  I should add that I am a deaf person and  Cannot use speech 
 at all!  For instance there's a line of dots at the bottom of the display 
 which I believe are called attributes?  This is to say the least somewhat 
 distracting. Also though I have my BE. set  to Grade two translation there  
 is no such though strangely enough there is with my pacMate display which 
 doesn't look like it will be useable in this regard.  If I am wrong in that 
 someone please set me straight.  Anyhoo, where Do I go to find braille 
 settings and how do I clean things up just a bit??  Also for those of you if 
 there are any out there who use a braille display with your Mac how do you 
 find the experience?? Thanking you kindly in advance  I am 

Re: macs and braille displays

2014-08-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi Jack,

You wil find the settings for braille in the voice over utility.  Hit control 
option f8.  This will take you to the vo utility.  After that, go down the 
table til you find braille.  In the braille settings, you can set things up as 
you like.

From your description of the dots along the bottom of the display, that is 
letting you know that everything is in the voiceover cursor.  You can turn 
this off.  Personally, I find those dots annoying!

I use a brilliant bi 40 with both my mac and occassionaly my i phone.  I have 
tried using the braille sense with my mac, but the experience isn't as smooth 
as it is with the brailliant.

Feel free to write me off list(caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com), if you want to chat 
more about setting up your display and I can try to help.

Cait

On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Jack and Becky ican...@jackzee.org wrote:

 Greeting Folks!  I am a brand spanking new Mac user. Just starting hfind  my 
 way about on it. I have a Mac book  Pro. Running  the  latest version of 
 Mavericks.  I am using a braille edge and am finding the interface  to be 
 somewhat messy.  I should add that I am a deaf person and  Cannot use speech 
 at all!  For instance there's a line of dots at the bottom of the display 
 which I believe are called attributes?  This is to say the least somewhat 
 distracting. Also though I have my BE. set  to Grade two translation there  
 is no such though strangely enough there is with my pacMate display which 
 doesn't look like it will be useable in this regard.  If I am wrong in that 
 someone please set me straight.  Anyhoo, where Do I go to find braille 
 settings and how do I clean things up just a bit??  Also for those of you if 
 there are any out there who use a braille display with your Mac how do you 
 find the experience?? Thanking you kindly in advance  I am cordially yours
 Jack Zimmerman 
 
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key assignments table for braille display

2014-08-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Is there a way to copy and paste or in some other way make a file of one's key 
assignment table in braille  displays  key assignments. I'd like to be able 
to keep a list independent of having to open the table, especially when I've 
changed assignments.

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
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Reading braille in text edit: asking again

2014-08-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just thought I would check this in case somebody has come up with a solution 
and I hadn't heard about it. I really would like to read braille files in text 
edit and also edit them there. I can read the files fine for the most part and 
can do editing as long as I remember to use the appropriate characters on the 
keyboard for the contractions etc. But it still drives me crazy having to see 
the control-j and control-m indications at the end of each line. Has anybody 
yet found a way to keep these from being shown?

Thanks much.

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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Re: Reading braille in text edit: asking again

2014-08-15 Thread Jane
No way that I've found to not see them, unless you edit on an iDevice. Then I 
think you can't see them. I have the opposite problem.

Jane




On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 I just thought I would check this in case somebody has come up with a 
 solution and I hadn't heard about it. I really would like to read braille 
 files in text edit and also edit them there. I can read the files fine for 
 the most part and can do editing as long as I remember to use the appropriate 
 characters on the keyboard for the contractions etc. But it still drives me 
 crazy having to see the control-j and control-m indications at the end of 
 each line. Has anybody yet found a way to keep these from being shown?
 
 Thanks much.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Reading braille in text edit: asking again

2014-08-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, editing on an i-device does not show these which is nice. But I don't 
understand why those have to show in Text Edit and other applications on the 
Mac.

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Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 No way that I've found to not see them, unless you edit on an iDevice. Then I 
 think you can't see them. I have the opposite problem.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I just thought I would check this in case somebody has come up with a 
 solution and I hadn't heard about it. I really would like to read braille 
 files in text edit and also edit them there. I can read the files fine for 
 the most part and can do editing as long as I remember to use the 
 appropriate characters on the keyboard for the contractions etc. But it 
 still drives me crazy having to see the control-j and control-m indications 
 at the end of each line. Has anybody yet found a way to keep these from 
 being shown?
 
 Thanks much.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Reading braille in text edit: asking again

2014-08-15 Thread Jane
When editing print documents, it's great, and that's why I wish I could see 
them on an iDevice. But I do wish that it could be a toggle. You know, for 
pleasure reading, not for editing.

Jane




On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Yes, editing on an i-device does not show these which is nice. But I don't 
 understand why those have to show in Text Edit and other applications on the 
 Mac.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No way that I've found to not see them, unless you edit on an iDevice. Then 
 I think you can't see them. I have the opposite problem.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I just thought I would check this in case somebody has come up with a 
 solution and I hadn't heard about it. I really would like to read braille 
 files in text edit and also edit them there. I can read the files fine for 
 the most part and can do editing as long as I remember to use the 
 appropriate characters on the keyboard for the contractions etc. But it 
 still drives me crazy having to see the control-j and control-m indications 
 at the end of each line. Has anybody yet found a way to keep these from 
 being shown?
 
 Thanks much.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Reading braille in text edit: asking again

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Quinn
how do you edit brf files on an IDevice?
On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Yes, editing on an i-device does not show these which is nice. But I don't 
 understand why those have to show in Text Edit and other applications on the 
 Mac.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No way that I've found to not see them, unless you edit on an iDevice. Then 
 I think you can't see them. I have the opposite problem.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I just thought I would check this in case somebody has come up with a 
 solution and I hadn't heard about it. I really would like to read braille 
 files in text edit and also edit them there. I can read the files fine for 
 the most part and can do editing as long as I remember to use the 
 appropriate characters on the keyboard for the contractions etc. But it 
 still drives me crazy having to see the control-j and control-m indications 
 at the end of each line. Has anybody yet found a way to keep these from 
 being shown?
 
 Thanks much.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 
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iPhone 5 and Siri question

2014-08-15 Thread Jenine Stanley
Sorry if this isn't the list to ask but I'm noticing that when I use Siri on my 
iPhone 5 for work, and I ask it to give me info and it then needs to speak and 
ask me yes or no, the speech gets cut off and I never hear whether it wants a 
response from me after the tone. 

On my 5S personal phone asking the same question, this does not happen. Both 
are using IiOS 7.1.2. Any thoughts?
Jenine Stanley
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Re: key assignments table for braille display

2014-08-15 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi,

Press control option f8 for the voiceover utility.
Press control option M for the menu bar.
Arrow over to file.
Arrow downd to export braille preferences and press enter.
Choose where to save the file and hit the export button.

You're done.

You can now share your key bindings file between your various macs, or with 
friends who have the same model display you have.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2014-08-15, at 11:54 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Is there a way to copy and paste or in some other way make a file of one's 
 key assignment table in braille  displays  key assignments. I'd like to be 
 able to keep a list independent of having to open the table, especially when 
 I've changed assignments.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPhone 5 and Siri question

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Quinn
It's most likely a voiceover problem as both me and my wife's phones do the 
same thing sometimes and we are using 5s's. Though it happened on our 4s's as 
well so I have no idea.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry if this isn't the list to ask but I'm noticing that when I use Siri on 
 my iPhone 5 for work, and I ask it to give me info and it then needs to speak 
 and ask me yes or no, the speech gets cut off and I never hear whether it 
 wants a response from me after the tone. 
 
 On my 5S personal phone asking the same question, this does not happen. Both 
 are using IiOS 7.1.2. Any thoughts?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: iPhone 5 and Siri question

2014-08-15 Thread Jenine Stanley
Interesting. This only seems to happen on my 5 and not the 5S. Come to think of 
it, this used to happen occasionally on my 4S as well but not as often. Siri is 
practically useless on the 5 I have. 

I'm considering doing the good old reboot, Lock button and home button together 
for 10 seconds, to see if that helps. 

On the 5S Siri is mostly usable and fairly good.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's most likely a voiceover problem as both me and my wife's phones do the 
 same thing sometimes and we are using 5s's. Though it happened on our 4s's as 
 well so I have no idea.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sorry if this isn't the list to ask but I'm noticing that when I use Siri on 
 my iPhone 5 for work, and I ask it to give me info and it then needs to 
 speak and ask me yes or no, the speech gets cut off and I never hear whether 
 it wants a response from me after the tone. 
 
 On my 5S personal phone asking the same question, this does not happen. Both 
 are using IiOS 7.1.2. Any thoughts?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: iPhone 5 and Siri question

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Quinn
Try toggling voiceover offrom, asking your question and see what happens. 
Pretty sure  that will work.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Interesting. This only seems to happen on my 5 and not the 5S. Come to think 
 of it, this used to happen occasionally on my 4S as well but not as often. 
 Siri is practically useless on the 5 I have. 
 
 I'm considering doing the good old reboot, Lock button and home button 
 together for 10 seconds, to see if that helps. 
 
 On the 5S Siri is mostly usable and fairly good.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's most likely a voiceover problem as both me and my wife's phones do the 
 same thing sometimes and we are using 5s's. Though it happened on our 4s's 
 as well so I have no idea.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sorry if this isn't the list to ask but I'm noticing that when I use Siri 
 on my iPhone 5 for work, and I ask it to give me info and it then needs to 
 speak and ask me yes or no, the speech gets cut off and I never hear 
 whether it wants a response from me after the tone. 
 
 On my 5S personal phone asking the same question, this does not happen. 
 Both are using IiOS 7.1.2. Any thoughts?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Slow startup.

2014-08-15 Thread David Griffith
I found that after doing a clean install and literally starting from 
scratch, that is reinstalling all my apps manually and not using 
migration that my iMac boot up speed returned to normal.


David Griffith
On 15/08/2014 07:38, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
When i first bought my mac mini mid 2011 it was quite fast in its startup.
Now a days i think it takes 2 or 3 minutes for it before voiceover comes to 
live.
The only thing i've tried is to use onyx which helps a litle bit but not very 
much.
Are there any other sollutions out there?
Or am i just an unpatient selfish one?
Thanks.
/A



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Re: Slow startup.

2014-08-15 Thread Alex Hall
You can also make sure your startup disk isn't too full, and that apps aren't 
auto-starting. Apple lets you re-open apps automatically, so your Mac 
essentially restores itself t how it was when you shut it down. This is really 
convenient, but it might cause things to run slower.
On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:21 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found that after doing a clean install and literally starting from scratch, 
 that is reinstalling all my apps manually and not using migration that my 
 iMac boot up speed returned to normal.
 
 David Griffith
 On 15/08/2014 07:38, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 When i first bought my mac mini mid 2011 it was quite fast in its startup.
 Now a days i think it takes 2 or 3 minutes for it before voiceover comes to 
 live.
 The only thing i've tried is to use onyx which helps a litle bit but not 
 very much.
 Are there any other sollutions out there?
 Or am i just an unpatient selfish one?
 Thanks.
 /A
 
 
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Opening multiple programs at once

2014-08-15 Thread Phil Halton
f
There is something I do normally that requires three or four open programs. I'm 
a little tired of opening each one manually. Is there a way on the Mac to open 
all the necessary programs with one move. It has something to do with 
activities or desktops I think, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Opening multiple programs at once

2014-08-15 Thread Alex Hall
My first thought is Applescript. Write and save the script, then run it 
whenever.

tell application Safari to run
tell application App Store to run

and so forth for each app you want. The keyword might be open instead of 
run, but the basic idea is the same.
On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 f
 There is something I do normally that requires three or four open programs. 
 I'm a little tired of opening each one manually. Is there a way on the Mac to 
 open all the necessary programs with one move. It has something to do with 
 activities or desktops I think, but I'm not sure.
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Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

2014-08-15 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having issues with 
Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting emails on my Mac! We tried 
everything and no go! It seems like my emails are going to the Archive folder! 
I am getting email on my iPhone it's just my Mac that is having issues! Please 
help!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

2014-08-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, if this is gmail, it might have something to do with your settings up on 
the gmail website rather than with a problem on your mac. But in order for any 
of us to help you, you are going to have to give more information about your 
setup for your mail on iphone and Mac i.e.: are they both set up as imap or is 
one set up as pop. That's just an example. I'm thinking if your email is going 
to your archived folder somehow your setup either on the website or on the 
iphone iis not such that your email can sync across your devices.

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
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His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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 Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having issues with 
 Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting emails on my Mac! We 
 tried everything and no go! It seems like my emails are going to the Archive 
 folder! I am getting email on my iPhone it's just my Mac that is having 
 issues! Please help!
 
 Jose Lomeli
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Re: Need help! Very frustrated with mail on the Mac!

2014-08-15 Thread Jose Lomeli
They are both set up with IMAP!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well, if this is gmail, it might have something to do with your settings up 
 on the gmail website rather than with a problem on your mac. But in order for 
 any of us to help you, you are going to have to give more information about 
 your setup for your mail on iphone and Mac i.e.: are they both set up as imap 
 or is one set up as pop. That's just an example. I'm thinking if your email 
 is going to your archived folder somehow your setup either on the website or 
 on the iphone iis not such that your email can sync across your devices.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Jose Lomeli jose.lome...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello; Listers, I need help! I called Apple because I am having issues with 
 Mail on my Mac! For some odd reason I am not getting emails on my Mac! We 
 tried everything and no go! It seems like my emails are going to the Archive 
 folder! I am getting email on my iPhone it's just my Mac that is having 
 issues! Please help!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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good RSS reader

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Quinn
what's a good RSS reader that also opens podcasts? hopefully it'd be free? 
thanks!

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Re: Airmail, we're not there yet

2014-08-15 Thread Matthew Dyer

Hi,

Thanks fo0r testing this.  For now, I think I will stick  with thunder 
byrd in linux at least untill yosemity is out.  If It wasn't for gmail  
I would use apple mail full time.  Just my thoughts.


Matthew


On 08/15/2014 07:10 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Thank you or trying this for us. I encourage you to contact the app's 
developers and inform them of the accessibility issues you experience 
with this app. Hopefully they will take your concerns seriously and do 
something about them. Thanks again and take care.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 15/08/2014 10:47, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
I took the plunge and bought Airmail just for the heck of it. Airmail 
has many features which i think could be good but as almost always 
the accessibility is quite poor. The main window contains lots of 
tables which appear to be empty although they probably aren’t. I’m 
sure someone can figure out what these tables are if we wanted to. 
There are also a lot of unlabeled buttons, however if one wishes to 
label those buttons, most of them have tool tips so they can actually 
be labeled. (when will voiceover implement an auto graphics labeler 
that works in the same way as the one JFW has?)
One of the tables i mentioned in the main window is actually 
populated with both a message list and a preview pane of the 
messages. All fields are readable except the one that says who the 
message is from and if there’s any To-field it’s undreadable too.
Verdict: Airmail can be used, but at this stage i personally prefer 
to stick to Apple mail, however it has potential, and so a little 
polite advocacy is needed.

Hope this makes sense.
/Krister





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ebok question

2014-08-15 Thread Jean
Jane:
Thanks very much for this clarification.  I assume I can also read them on my i 
phone since I don't have an i pad?
Jean

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e book question

2014-08-15 Thread Jean
Hello again:
One final question.  If I download either an epub or mobi book on the computer, 
how do I get it to i books on my i phone?
Jean

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Re: Opening multiple programs at once

2014-08-15 Thread Phil Halton
I googled Mac opening multiple apps at onceand found several hits, one of 
which was a video showing how to create an automator application to do this. 
Although it wasn't a blind oriented video, it was relatively simple to figure 
out. Now I have an application on my desktop called Video project that when 
opened, opens up all the apps I need to do my work. Also, I have the added 
bonus of successfully writing my first automator app. It's not so hard once you 
get over the hump with your first one.

On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 My first thought is Applescript. Write and save the script, then run it 
 whenever.
 
 tell application Safari to run
 tell application App Store to run
 
 and so forth for each app you want. The keyword might be open instead of 
 run, but the basic idea is the same.
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 f
 There is something I do normally that requires three or four open programs. 
 I'm a little tired of opening each one manually. Is there a way on the Mac 
 to open all the necessary programs with one move. It has something to do 
 with activities or desktops I think, but I'm not sure.
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VO Announces Authentication After Quitting An App

2014-08-15 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello All, 

I just noticed this a little while ago and VO never announced Authentication 
after using command-q. Is there a setting that I turned on by mistake that is 
causing this to happen? Please advise on where to go to get rid of this 
ignoring pest. Thanks in advance. 

Kind regards, 
Eileen 

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Re: e book question

2014-08-15 Thread Chris Moore
dropbox
On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello again:
 One final question.  If I download either an epub or mobi book on the 
 computer, how do I get it to i books on my i phone?
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Re: VO Announces Authentication After Quitting An App

2014-08-15 Thread Alex Hall
It sounds more like you have an authentication window open. Press vo-f1 twice 
and arrow through the list; you should be able to find the window in question 
and go to it to see what it is.
On Aug 15, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All, 
 
 I just noticed this a little while ago and VO never announced 
 Authentication after using command-q. Is there a setting that I turned on 
 by mistake that is causing this to happen? Please advise on where to go to 
 get rid of this ignoring pest. Thanks in advance. 
 
 Kind regards, 
 Eileen 
 
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Re: Time Machine question

2014-08-15 Thread Gerry Cook
Hi bill in the menu bar, did you check whether enable switch was checked in 
time machine preferences and options? then the automatic backups should come 
back. That happened to me once and i also checked backup on battery power. Hope 
that helps. All the best.
cheers gerry have a nice day
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On 15 Aug 2014, at 10:36 pm, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 No, no longer getting backups.  Getting backup failed messages, says to 
 change disk.  I would have thought it would delete old backups automatically, 
 doesn't seem to be happening for me.
  
  
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:41 PM
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 Subject: Re: Time Machine question
  
 Hi Bill,
  
 Time Machine should do this automatically. Check under System 
 PreferencesTime Machine to see if it's still backing up. There will also be 
 an options button near the lower-right corner of the window; here you can 
 configure if Time Machine notifies you when it deletes an old backup to make 
 room. Let us know whether Time Machine is still doing backups.
  
 Grant
  
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 Hi.
 My 1tb time machine backup drive is full.  I am backing up a 500 gb drive, 
 but I have created and later deleted a number of very large files, which are 
 still on the backup.  Is there some way I can instruck it to delete the 
 oldest backups automatically in order to free up disk space?  Thanks.
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Authentication Still Showing After Quitting Apps

2014-08-15 Thread Eileen Misrahi
This is an update on what I found after quitting a program with command-Q. VO 
continues to announce Authentication. I tried using VO-F1 twice quickly when 
this occurs. I get this message, User Authentication is REquired. When I try 
to interact with it, VO Right arrow or just right arrow to open it the computer 
states, Authentication Shows No Windows. Hence, I can't close this out. When 
I just open the application menu with VO-F1 twice quickly, I am using columm 
view. I cannot access this Authentication bug. Does anyone have some other 
suggestions to get rid of this ignoring nusense? thanks in advance. 

Best, 
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Reinstalling Mail!

2014-08-15 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hello; Pisters, is their a way to reinstall Mail? I am still having issues! 
Apparently all of my emails are going to the archive folder! Why? I don't know! 
Any ideas? I would gladly appreciate it a lot! I am running Mavericks on a 
MacBook Pro!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Reinstalling Mail!

2014-08-15 Thread Jose Lomeli
Lol I meant Listers! Oops! Lol!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Jose Lomeli jose.lome...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello; Pisters, is their a way to reinstall Mail? I am still having issues! 
 Apparently all of my emails are going to the archive folder! Why? I don't 
 know! Any ideas? I would gladly appreciate it a lot! I am running Mavericks 
 on a MacBook Pro!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone

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help with updating flash player?

2014-08-15 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi.

when I try to install a new version of flash player, I get a message to close 
the programme com apple webkit development. I quit webkit and looked in 
activity monitor but am unable to find the programme. the installation just 
gets stuck on retry.  
anyone have any ideas?

. 
Warm regards and blessings 
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Re: help with updating flash player?

2014-08-15 Thread David Taylor
Hi,

You will also have to close anything else that is using Webkit. If you have 
this as your default browser, this could include, for example, MenuTab Pro for 
Facebook, or any other app that uses HTML style interfaces.

HTH
Dave

On 16 Aug 2014, at 06:48, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 when I try to install a new version of flash player, I get a message to close 
 the programme com apple webkit development. I quit webkit and looked in 
 activity monitor but am unable to find the programme. the installation just 
 gets stuck on retry.  
 anyone have any ideas?
 
 . 
 Warm regards and blessings 
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 Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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