Re: A few questions.

[Lorie McCloud]

I did it all the time in windows but I can understand why you don’t want that 
discussed here. I know how to use google or start page or whatever. (smile)
My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud   

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:34 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> While I'm not sure about the legal ramifications of breaking DRM, I wouldn't 
> call running the Amazon Kindle app on the Mac using VMWare or Bootcamp as 
> being 'available' on the Mac. Sort of like saying an automobile can be driven 
> just fine on a railroad track by loading and towing it on a flatbed train car.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/26/15 7:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> Whilst the i OS app is accessible the last time I checked the Kindle App on 
>> the Mac platform had no Accessibility Plugin and the book content text was 
>> not accessible via voiceover.
>> Certainly the only way I can use the Kindle app on a Mac is via a fusion 
>> Window.
>> 
>> Whilst it is possible to break the DRM of Kindle Books and whilst a legal 
>> defense for doing so may possibly be available for visually impaired people 
>> under the 2003 Act I am not certain that it can be assumed to hold force 
>> without some legal test.  So active discussion of strategies for breaking 
>> DRM on this list may not be appropriate. . The rights of visually impaired 
>> people to breach DRM and copyright is linked to the lack of accessible 
>> delivery and on other platforms at least Amazon has made available a number 
>> of accessible alternative, and these are available on a Mac via boot camp or 
>> Fusion.  Amazon could conceivably cite these in justification of preserving 
>> the integrity of their DRM.  . I agree that   the Mac OS should be a 
>> platform that accessibility should be extended  to though.
>> There are a number of commercial tools and there is nothing to stop you 
>> Googling something like Kindle DRM Removal.
>> David Griffith
>> On 26/02/2015 22:39, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> I think the Kindle app for iPad and iPhone is accessible. I’m curious about 
>>> the Kindle Mac app myself. I’ve used it on the iPhone though. I think it 
>>> would be easier than trying to convert them although I’d like to know how 
>>> to do that too.
>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud
>>> 
 On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
 
 Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it 
 hopefully without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m 
 stumped. I was trying to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle books in 
 Voice Dream, and in the process realized that I needed to possibly find 
 out how to move around in documents and data to transfer things to my 
 phone, say to Voice Dream, or remove a book from Kindle, to run through 
 the protection tool since I don’t think the version  of Kindle for the Mac 
 is accessible, and have hit a brick wall. Can someone direct me in all 
 this where to find the tools necessary, how to get to documents and data 
 running the latest iTunes 12.1 running the latest Yosemite, and an iPhone 
 5 S running iOs 8.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again and 
 take care y’all.
 
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Re: Need Help with Apple Script

[Robert Cole]

Thank you.
Before I read your message, I figured out how to do it.
the same way you did, but different wording.
repeat
display dialog "First Name?" default answer ""
display dialog "Last Name?" default answer ""
display dialog "Email?" default answer ""
beep
end repeat

Thanks,
Rob
Sent from my MacBook

On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Well, I guess you could do something like this.
> 
> set dialogResult to display dialog "First Name" default answer ""
> if (button returned of dialogResult is "OK") then
>   set dialogResult to display dialog "Last Name" default answer ""
>   if (button returned of dialogResult is "OK") then
>   set dialogResult to display dialog "EMail" default answer ""
>   if (button returned of dialogResult is "OK") then
> and so on
>   end if
>   end if
> end if
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think you can do that with the standard user interaction suite.
> You would need to create a Cocoa apple script application project in Xcode 
> and create a UI from scratch which is much more complicated.  There also 
> might be some third party solutions for doing something like this.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can someone tell me how to make this script display multiple edit fields?
> For example, first name
> last name
> email…
> Here is what I got.
> 
> display dialog “First Name?" default answer “"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> Sent from my MacBook
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Re: Using Numbers for Simple Multiplication

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

So if you know the two cells you want multiplied you should just be able 
to type in the formula. One tricky bit is if you type anything starting 
with a letter it assumes you are entering text, not a label. So if the 
two numbers are in cells A1 and A2 you can type the formula =A1*A2 using 
an asterisk for the multiplication. One annoying thing I noticed is that 
when I hit = it pops some little modal dialog for the formula so I end 
up typing a1+a2= so I have to arrow right once after typing the = to get 
the order correct.


CB

On 2/26/15 2:28 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Hi there
Go to the first one you want. If you are doing a row, be sure to start 
with the one on the left. If you are doing a column, start with the 
one at the top of where you want to begin. In theory you can do it the 
other way, but I have never been able to make that work. Staying on 
top of the last one you select, go to the menu with VO m.  Go to 
insert and down arrow to formula. Find product, sum or whatever. Press 
ENTER. If you have equal signs or a line separating your figures, be 
sure to be on top of that before you go to the menu. You want your 
separator line into the formula. I hope this makes sense.


Gigi

On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:02 PM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hello to the list.
I may be missing something very basic about concepts for using Numbers.
With two adjacent numbers, either in a row or a column, I cannot get 
the Product function in numbers to multiply the entries.
I’ve tried selecting the numbers, but that did not seem to work, but 
placing the cursor in an adjacent blank cell, I went to the insert 
menu, then formulas, and tried both Enter and VO Spacebar on Product.
Clearly this must be operator error, so any hints about performing 
basic  formula calculations would be really helpful.

Thanks.

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Applescript to double click at voiceover cursor

[Jonathan C Cohn]

Good day,

Below starting with the word “use” is an apple script that  Jürgen and I wrote. 
This will double click with the mouse on the VoiceOver cursor. It will of 
course only work reliably when your VoiceOver cursor is over a non-grouped 
item. . This has only been tested by two people, and I have only tested it in 
about 3 places so your experience are welcome. 

Also, for anybody interested I might attempt to create a call in to discuss 
AppleScript starting from a beginner perspective. 

use application "VoiceOver"
tell commander
perform command "move mouse pointer to voiceover cursor"
delay 1
end tell
output mouse summary
tell mouse cursor
click twice
end tell

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Re: A few questions.

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

While I'm not sure about the legal ramifications of breaking DRM, I 
wouldn't call running the Amazon Kindle app on the Mac using VMWare or 
Bootcamp as being 'available' on the Mac. Sort of like saying an 
automobile can be driven just fine on a railroad track by loading and 
towing it on a flatbed train car.


CB

On 2/26/15 7:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Whilst the i OS app is accessible the last time I checked the Kindle 
App on the Mac platform had no Accessibility Plugin and the book 
content text was not accessible via voiceover.
Certainly the only way I can use the Kindle app on a Mac is via a 
fusion Window.


Whilst it is possible to break the DRM of Kindle Books and whilst a 
legal defense for doing so may possibly be available for visually 
impaired people under the 2003 Act I am not certain that it can be 
assumed to hold force without some legal test.  So active discussion 
of strategies for breaking DRM on this list may not be appropriate. . 
The rights of visually impaired people to breach DRM and copyright is 
linked to the lack of accessible delivery and on other platforms at 
least Amazon has made available a number of accessible alternative, 
and these are available on a Mac via boot camp or Fusion.  Amazon 
could conceivably cite these in justification of preserving the 
integrity of their DRM.  . I agree that   the Mac OS should be a 
platform that accessibility should be extended  to though.
There are a number of commercial tools and there is nothing to stop 
you Googling something like Kindle DRM Removal.

David Griffith
On 26/02/2015 22:39, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I think the Kindle app for iPad and iPhone is accessible. I’m curious 
about the Kindle Mac app myself. I’ve used it on the iPhone though. I 
think it would be easier than trying to convert them although I’d 
like to know how to do that too.

My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud


On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it 
hopefully without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m 
stumped. I was trying to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle 
books in Voice Dream, and in the process realized that I needed to 
possibly find out how to move around in documents and data to 
transfer things to my phone, say to Voice Dream, or remove a book 
from Kindle, to run through the protection tool since I don’t think 
the version  of Kindle for the Mac is accessible, and have hit a 
brick wall. Can someone direct me in all this where to find the 
tools necessary, how to get to documents and data running the latest 
iTunes 12.1 running the latest Yosemite, and an iPhone 5 S running 
iOs 8.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again and take care 
y’all.


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Re: Need Help with Apple Script

[Barry Hadder]

Well, I guess you could do something like this.

set dialogResult to display dialog "First Name" default answer ""
if (button returned of dialogResult is "OK") then
set dialogResult to display dialog "Last Name" default answer ""
if (button returned of dialogResult is "OK") then
set dialogResult to display dialog "EMail" default answer ""
if (button returned of dialogResult is "OK") then
and so on
end if
end if
end if

On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

I don’t think you can do that with the standard user interaction suite.
You would need to create a Cocoa apple script application project in Xcode and 
create a UI from scratch which is much more complicated.  There also might be 
some third party solutions for doing something like this.

On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Robert Cole mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Hi,
Can someone tell me how to make this script display multiple edit fields?
For example, first name
last name
email…
Here is what I got.

display dialog “First Name?" default answer “"




Thanks,
Rob
Sent from my MacBook


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Re: Another Numbers formula question

[Agent086b]

Sorry about that am just having a bad day.
Max.

> On 27 Feb 2015, at 1:13 pm, george b  wrote:
> 
> Well first of all d4 is to the left of e 5
> 
> Now go to f4 and type =SUM(e5:e55) and hit enter this should work
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Agent086b
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 16:38
> To: Mac List
> Subject: Another Numbers formula question
> 
> Hello,
> I am starting to use numbers and have a problem.
> I wish to ad numbers from row e5 - e55 and display the result in the next 
> column to the right in D4.
> I can ad the numbers in the column but I can only display the result in row 
> at the bottom.
> I used to use Excel before the Mac so have a little to learn.
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Need Help with Apple Script

[Barry Hadder]

I don’t think you can do that with the standard user interaction suite.
You would need to create a Cocoa apple script application project in Xcode and 
create a UI from scratch which is much more complicated.  There also might be 
some third party solutions for doing something like this.

On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:

Hi,
Can someone tell me how to make this script display multiple edit fields?
For example, first name
last name
email…
Here is what I got.

display dialog “First Name?" default answer “"




Thanks,
Rob
Sent from my MacBook


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RE: Another Numbers formula question

[george b]

Well first of all d4 is to the left of e 5

Now go to f4 and type =SUM(e5:e55) and hit enter this should work

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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 16:38
To: Mac List
Subject: Another Numbers formula question

Hello,
I am starting to use numbers and have a problem.
I wish to ad numbers from row e5 - e55 and display the result in the next 
column to the right in D4.
I can ad the numbers in the column but I can only display the result in row at 
the bottom.
I used to use Excel before the Mac so have a little to learn.
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Need Help with Apple Script

[Robert Cole]

Hi,
Can someone tell me how to make this script display multiple edit fields?
For example, first name
last name
email…
Here is what I got.

display dialog “First Name?" default answer “"




Thanks,
Rob
Sent from my MacBook

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Another Numbers formula question

[Agent086b]

Hello,
I am starting to use numbers and have a problem.
I wish to ad numbers from row e5 - e55 and display the result in the next 
column to the right in D4.
I can ad the numbers in the column but I can only display the result in row at 
the bottom.
I used to use Excel before the Mac so have a little to learn.
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Logitech Media Server

[Tim Mehok]

Emrah,
I found this old message about the Logitech server. I am considering
using it and I have a few questions.
1. Are you still using it?
2. Must you have one of the Logitech units or can you output directly
to the music system as an output of the computer.
3. What are you running it on.  I am considering running it on the Mac mini.
I have a few other questions if I have not worn out my welcome.

Many thanks,
Tim

On 9/1/12, Emrah  wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> It's an amazing piece of software that I use everyday to play and manage the
> music of my whole home.
>
> You can use a lighter interface that is totally accessible. Just append
> /classic/ to the URL you use to access your interface. E.g.:
> http://127.0.0.1:9000/classic/
> You can also use an app called iPeng on your iPhone, the developer made an
> amazing job to make it 100% accessible. It's impressive!
>
> A few years ago I developed an application to remote control the server
> using your voice. It responded to some microphones and phones I had in the
> house. I stopped it since it started going off randomly. hahaha
>
> Enjoy!
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Marc Sutton  wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>> I recently installed this software to control my Squeezebox Classic. I am
>> noticing some challenges with using Voiceover. Does anyone have tips for
>> using it with the latest versions of both? For example, When I click on
>> the different settings categories, nothing happens. Thanks for any help.
>> Marc
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Re: A few questions.

[David Griffith]

Whilst the i OS app is accessible the last time I checked the Kindle App 
on the Mac platform had no Accessibility Plugin and the book content 
text was not accessible via voiceover.
Certainly the only way I can use the Kindle app on a Mac is via a fusion 
Window.


Whilst it is possible to break the DRM of Kindle Books and whilst a 
legal defense for doing so may possibly be available for visually 
impaired people under the 2003 Act I am not certain that it can be 
assumed to hold force without some legal test.  So active discussion of 
strategies for breaking DRM on this list may not be appropriate. . The 
rights of visually impaired people to breach DRM and copyright is linked 
to the lack of accessible delivery and on other platforms at least 
Amazon has made available a number of accessible alternative, and these 
are available on a Mac via boot camp or Fusion.  Amazon could 
conceivably cite these in justification of preserving the integrity of 
their DRM.  . I agree that   the Mac OS should be a platform that 
accessibility should be extended  to though.
There are a number of commercial tools and there is nothing to stop you 
Googling something like Kindle DRM Removal.

David Griffith
On 26/02/2015 22:39, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I think the Kindle app for iPad and iPhone is accessible. I’m curious about the 
Kindle Mac app myself. I’ve used it on the iPhone though. I think it would be 
easier than trying to convert them although I’d like to know how to do that too.
My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud   


On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it hopefully 
without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m stumped. I was trying 
to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle books in Voice Dream, and in the 
process realized that I needed to possibly find out how to move around in 
documents and data to transfer things to my phone, say to Voice Dream, or 
remove a book from Kindle, to run through the protection tool since I don’t 
think the version  of Kindle for the Mac is accessible, and have hit a brick 
wall. Can someone direct me in all this where to find the tools necessary, how 
to get to documents and data running the latest iTunes 12.1 running the latest 
Yosemite, and an iPhone 5 S running iOs 8.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks again and take care y’all.

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Re: A few questions.

[Lorie McCloud]

I think the Kindle app for iPad and iPhone is accessible. I’m curious about the 
Kindle Mac app myself. I’ve used it on the iPhone though. I think it would be 
easier than trying to convert them although I’d like to know how to do that too.
My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud   

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
> 
> Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it 
> hopefully without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m stumped. I 
> was trying to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle books in Voice Dream, 
> and in the process realized that I needed to possibly find out how to move 
> around in documents and data to transfer things to my phone, say to Voice 
> Dream, or remove a book from Kindle, to run through the protection tool since 
> I don’t think the version  of Kindle for the Mac is accessible, and have hit 
> a brick wall. Can someone direct me in all this where to find the tools 
> necessary, how to get to documents and data running the latest iTunes 12.1 
> running the latest Yosemite, and an iPhone 5 S running iOs 8.1.3. Any help 
> would be appreciated. Thanks again and take care y’all. 
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A few questions.

[Tim Emmons]

Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it hopefully 
without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m stumped. I was trying 
to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle books in Voice Dream, and in the 
process realized that I needed to possibly find out how to move around in 
documents and data to transfer things to my phone, say to Voice Dream, or 
remove a book from Kindle, to run through the protection tool since I don’t 
think the version  of Kindle for the Mac is accessible, and have hit a brick 
wall. Can someone direct me in all this where to find the tools necessary, how 
to get to documents and data running the latest iTunes 12.1 running the latest 
Yosemite, and an iPhone 5 S running iOs 8.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks again and take care y’all. 

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Re: Time Capsule on a u-verse router

[Joseph]

Hello,
Here’s the thing. For what we pay for cable we should be getting much better 
service, in my opinion. In regards to over the phone techs, I agree. But we’ve 
also had repair technicians come to the door both back when we had DSL several 
years ago and also with Comcast support. The problem is this as I see it. Some 
technicians are sub contracted people, while others represent only certain 
parts of the network.
At one time, we did have a technician who said he was contracted with AT&T but 
didn’t work as an AT&T employee. However, he did give me a business card. 
Several weeks later, I called him to ask a question and his phone number was 
disconnected.
Well, I really do appreciate all that has been said. I suppose that I’ll do 
more research and give things a little more time to see if things change in 
either direction. If Comcast gets worse, I’ll probably move to u-verse if 
comcast gets any better, I’ll probably stay with them. Only time will tell, I 
guess.
So thanks a bunch guys for all your input, much appreciated.

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Att is going to be more consistent.  they have a better network than any 
> cable company.  However, cable has faster speeds at the moment, but it’s 
> mostly burst speeds.  I think there is much greater potential from the 
> telecom offerings, but their rollout of new stuff is still a bit rocky at the 
> moment.  The equipment they provide at this time is an embarrassment, but it 
> does do what it’s supposed to do no less and certainly no more.
> 
> I don’t know what you were tole about the speedstreme.  I looked at the specs 
> and it is an old ADSL modem.  I’m sure you can use the router in some 
> faction, but there is no way the modem can be used with the new dsl 
> technology.   And, the pwreson you talk to on the phone is hardly ever a real 
> tech.  It has been my experience that they actually know very little.  The 
> person who would come to your door is a tech and many times they will leave 
> you there contact info so you can avoid phone support all to geather.
> 
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Joseph  wrote:
> 
> Hello guys,
> This is getting really interesting. And I appreciate all that is being said 
> here.
> I did listen to the Video. Now I’ll look at the other info.
> What this all hedges on is if Comcast is interested in making it’s service 
> more consistent or not. I won’t even go into Comcast customer service.
> All I really want is a service that is consistent and comes as close as 
> possible to providing what they say they will. However, none of the ISPs 
> guarantee anything.
> Oh yea, another thing. A tech at AT&T said that my SpeedStream 5360 would 
> work with my router on u-verse, but I kind of doubt it. That’s why I’m 
> examining all I can before making any moves.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I don’t see it as surrender exactly, rather as picking my battles.  
>> You actually don’t have to bridge any of the residential gateways to use 
>> back to my mac, but you do have to do some tweaking.  I’ve seen a couple of 
>> methods, one of which is at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3865704.
>> If you decide you want to bridge the 510, then there is a good video here: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYROv9Fjis.
>> 
>> I have ADSL2+ which is what you git if TV isn’t available.  I git 6MBPs, but 
>> you can get speeds up to 24 I believe.
>> Also, uverse uses ip based dslms rather than atm based so I don’t think  
>> just any off the shelf modem will work with it.
>> 
>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I prefer running the AirPort directly facing the Internet, for that way the 
>> guest network and Back To My Mac features are available.
>> 
>> U-Verse is often just (V)DSL.  It might be worthwhile your investing in a 
>> modem that does the bridging, such as Draytek 120/130.  Or, see if you can 
>> get your modem into bridge mode.
>> 
>> Of course, if you aren’t bothered about guest networking or BTMM, you could 
>> roll with the easier option of letting their modem do the routing, but meh, 
>> that’s just surrender. :)
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Re: Using Numbers for Simple Multiplication

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
Go to the first one you want. If you are doing a row, be sure to start with the 
one on the left. If you are doing a column, start with the one at the top of 
where you want to begin. In theory you can do it the other way, but I have 
never been able to make that work. Staying on top of the last one you select, 
go to the menu with VO m.  Go to insert and down arrow to formula. Find 
product, sum or whatever. Press ENTER. If you have equal signs or a line 
separating your figures, be sure to be on top of that before you go to the 
menu. You want your separator line into the formula. I hope this makes sense. 

Gigi 

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:02 PM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello to the list.
> I may be missing something very basic about concepts for using Numbers.
> With two adjacent numbers, either in a row or a column, I cannot get the 
> Product function in numbers to multiply the entries.
> I’ve tried selecting the numbers, but that did not seem to work, but placing 
> the cursor in an adjacent blank cell, I went to the insert menu, then 
> formulas, and tried both Enter and VO  Spacebar on Product.
>  
> Clearly this must be operator error, so any hints about performing basic  
> formula calculations would be really helpful.
> Thanks.
>  
>  
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Re: Using Numbers for Simple Multiplication

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,
here works: entering a number in B2 and B3, moving the cursor to B4, go to the 
menue and insert the product from the Formular submenue to B4. The result was 
correct here even if I inserted another cell with a number.
> Am 26.02.2015 um 20:02 schrieb 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hello to the list.
> I may be missing something very basic about concepts for using Numbers.
> With two adjacent numbers, either in a row or a column, I cannot get the 
> Product function in numbers to multiply the entries.
> I’ve tried selecting the numbers, but that did not seem to work, but placing 
> the cursor in an adjacent blank cell, I went to the insert menu, then 
> formulas, and tried both Enter and VO  Spacebar on Product.
>  
> Clearly this must be operator error, so any hints about performing basic  
> formula calculations would be really helpful.
> Thanks.
>  
>  
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Using Numbers for Simple Multiplication

['Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries]

Hello to the list.
I may be missing something very basic about concepts for using Numbers.
With two adjacent numbers, either in a row or a column, I cannot get the 
Product function in numbers to multiply the entries.
I’ve tried selecting the numbers, but that did not seem to work, but placing 
the cursor in an adjacent blank cell, I went to the insert menu, then formulas, 
and tried both Enter and VO  Spacebar on Product. 

Clearly this must be operator error, so any hints about performing basic  
formula calculations would be really helpful.
Thanks.

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Re: Time Capsule on a u-verse router

[Barry Hadder]

Att is going to be more consistent.  they have a better network than any cable 
company.  However, cable has faster speeds at the moment, but it’s mostly burst 
speeds.  I think there is much greater potential from the telecom offerings, 
but their rollout of new stuff is still a bit rocky at the moment.  The 
equipment they provide at this time is an embarrassment, but it does do what 
it’s supposed to do no less and certainly no more.

I don’t know what you were tole about the speedstreme.  I looked at the specs 
and it is an old ADSL modem.  I’m sure you can use the router in some faction, 
but there is no way the modem can be used with the new dsl technology.   And, 
the pwreson you talk to on the phone is hardly ever a real tech.  It has been 
my experience that they actually know very little.  The person who would come 
to your door is a tech and many times they will leave you there contact info so 
you can avoid phone support all to geather.


On Feb 26, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Joseph  wrote:

Hello guys,
This is getting really interesting. And I appreciate all that is being said 
here.
I did listen to the Video. Now I’ll look at the other info.
What this all hedges on is if Comcast is interested in making it’s service more 
consistent or not. I won’t even go into Comcast customer service.
All I really want is a service that is consistent and comes as close as 
possible to providing what they say they will. However, none of the ISPs 
guarantee anything.
Oh yea, another thing. A tech at AT&T said that my SpeedStream 5360 would work 
with my router on u-verse, but I kind of doubt it. That’s why I’m examining all 
I can before making any moves.

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Well, I don’t see it as surrender exactly, rather as picking my battles.  You 
> actually don’t have to bridge any of the residential gateways to use back to 
> my mac, but you do have to do some tweaking.  I’ve seen a couple of methods, 
> one of which is at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3865704.
> If you decide you want to bridge the 510, then there is a good video here: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYROv9Fjis.
> 
> I have ADSL2+ which is what you git if TV isn’t available.  I git 6MBPs, but 
> you can get speeds up to 24 I believe.
> Also, uverse uses ip based dslms rather than atm based so I don’t think  just 
> any off the shelf modem will work with it.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I prefer running the AirPort directly facing the Internet, for that way the 
> guest network and Back To My Mac features are available.
> 
> U-Verse is often just (V)DSL.  It might be worthwhile your investing in a 
> modem that does the bridging, such as Draytek 120/130.  Or, see if you can 
> get your modem into bridge mode.
> 
> Of course, if you aren’t bothered about guest networking or BTMM, you could 
> roll with the easier option of letting their modem do the routing, but meh, 
> that’s just surrender. :)
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Re: question about VM Fusion

[Phil Halton]

when I get that sound that indicates a wrong or dead keystroke, and Fusion 
doesn't seem to respond, I switch to  full screen mode with command control F 
and that usually shakes things up and gets things working again. Also, 
sometimes I VO end (function+right arrow) and then hit tab a few times until my 
VM screen reader (JAWS) responds.
Usually though, the best fix is to switch screen modes with command control F. 
Whether it goes to full screen mode or single screen mode doesn’t matter to the 
way the VM operates, but it gets the keystroke problem fixed.


On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:45 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
> 
> Hello I have the same problem if I hit a wrong key combo all I get is the 
> dong sound and I have to quit vm and restart fusion so any help would go a 
> long way to help thanks in advance
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juliette Swiler
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:34 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Juliette Swiler
> Subject: question about VM Fusion
> 
> Hi all,
> I just recently updated to the latest version of Fusion, and am wondering if 
> anyone else has noticed a problem if you are running Windows 7 with a screen 
> reader such as System Access or Window-Eyes. I can no longer seem to alt tab 
> between various windows that are open. Does any one know a workaround for 
> this? As an example, if I bring up blind adrenaline’s web site to play a card 
> game, and I create a table, what do I do if the table doesn’t automatically 
> come into focus? How do I find out what other windows are running in the 
> background? But more importantly, how to fix the alt tab situation? Thanks.
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Re: Time Capsule on a u-verse router

[Barry Hadder]

Well, I don’t see it as surrender exactly, rather as picking my battles.  You 
actually don’t have to bridge any of the residential gateways to use back to my 
mac, but you do have to do some tweaking.  I’ve seen a couple of methods, one 
of which is at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3865704.
If you decide you want to bridge the 510, then there is a good video here: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYROv9Fjis.

I have ADSL2+ which is what you git if TV isn’t available.  I git 6MBPs, but 
you can get speeds up to 24 I believe.
Also, uverse uses ip based dslms rather than atm based so I don’t think  just 
any off the shelf modem will work with it.

On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

I prefer running the AirPort directly facing the Internet, for that way the 
guest network and Back To My Mac features are available.

U-Verse is often just (V)DSL.  It might be worthwhile your investing in a modem 
that does the bridging, such as Draytek 120/130.  Or, see if you can get your 
modem into bridge mode.

Of course, if you aren’t bothered about guest networking or BTMM, you could 
roll with the easier option of letting their modem do the routing, but meh, 
that’s just surrender. :)

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Re: Time Capsule on a u-verse router

[Joseph]

Hello guys,
This is getting really interesting. And I appreciate all that is being said 
here.
I did listen to the Video. Now I’ll look at the other info.
What this all hedges on is if Comcast is interested in making it’s service more 
consistent or not. I won’t even go into Comcast customer service.
All I really want is a service that is consistent and comes as close as 
possible to providing what they say they will. However, none of the ISPs 
guarantee anything.
Oh yea, another thing. A tech at AT&T said that my SpeedStream 5360 would work 
with my router on u-verse, but I kind of doubt it. That’s why I’m examining all 
I can before making any moves.

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Well, I don’t see it as surrender exactly, rather as picking my battles.  You 
> actually don’t have to bridge any of the residential gateways to use back to 
> my mac, but you do have to do some tweaking.  I’ve seen a couple of methods, 
> one of which is at https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3865704.
> If you decide you want to bridge the 510, then there is a good video here: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYROv9Fjis.
> 
> I have ADSL2+ which is what you git if TV isn’t available.  I git 6MBPs, but 
> you can get speeds up to 24 I believe.
> Also, uverse uses ip based dslms rather than atm based so I don’t think  just 
> any off the shelf modem will work with it.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:07 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I prefer running the AirPort directly facing the Internet, for that way the 
> guest network and Back To My Mac features are available.
> 
> U-Verse is often just (V)DSL.  It might be worthwhile your investing in a 
> modem that does the bridging, such as Draytek 120/130.  Or, see if you can 
> get your modem into bridge mode.
> 
> Of course, if you aren’t bothered about guest networking or BTMM, you could 
> roll with the easier option of letting their modem do the routing, but meh, 
> that’s just surrender. :)
> 
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RE: question about VM Fusion

[wayne17a]

Hello I have the same problem if I hit a wrong key combo all I get is the dong 
sound and I have to quit vm and restart fusion so any help would go a long way 
to help thanks in advance

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Subject: question about VM Fusion

Hi all,
I just recently updated to the latest version of Fusion, and am wondering if 
anyone else has noticed a problem if you are running Windows 7 with a screen 
reader such as System Access or Window-Eyes. I can no longer seem to alt tab 
between various windows that are open. Does any one know a workaround for this? 
As an example, if I bring up blind adrenaline’s web site to play a card game, 
and I create a table, what do I do if the table doesn’t automatically come into 
focus? How do I find out what other windows are running in the background? But 
more importantly, how to fix the alt tab situation? Thanks.

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Re: Applescript help

[Phil Halton]

I’ve come to this script late. I would like to know what the “package” is and 
if it is geared towards teaching apple script creation? I’m an old Cobol, RPG, 
Bal, Pascal, APL, Basic etc … programmer from way back and wouldn’t mind 
getting back into it for the odd script writing need.
thanks

> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Glad you got it working, and sorry I didn't think to check that all the 
> scripts were together. Note that a warning about exactly this problem is 
> already in the Readme file. I'll paste it here:
> 
> ##Q: None of the scripts are working! What is going on?
> A: The most likely cause is that you have separated the script(s) from the 
> two libraries they need. Please be sure to keep all the scripts together. If 
> you absolutely have to put one or more scripts in a folder on their own, make 
> sure to include getResourceInfo.scpt and utilities.scpt in the folder as 
> well. I discourage you from separating the scripts like this, though, since 
> it will make updating them harder and is more prone to problems.
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:51 PM, The Believer > > wrote:
>> 
>> Alex,
>>   I think this topic got sidetracked. Well I did resolve my issue. To be 
>> honest, while your readme was very informative. what would have been helpful 
>> to me new to Applecript would have been an outline of the steps necessary.
>> 
>>   The missing step was to put the utilities.scpt and getInfo.scpt files in 
>> the same folder with the scripts I wanted to use. I got my clue from 
>> googling which was to test scripts by Run-ning them from the Script menu. 
>> That gave me an error dialog and I now can use the scripts.
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 2/25/2015 3:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> If we're still talking about Talking Dashboard, I know it works since I use 
>>> it all the time. Have you modified the script in any way at all? Do other 
>>> commanders work?
 On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jonathan C Cohn  wrote:
 
 Send me a copy of the script and I can give it a try.
 
 Is output using the output command or the say command? Or perhaps the code 
 from the Apple version was taken, which checks if VoiceOVer is running and 
 also makes sure that applescripts can control voiceover. in any case the 
 first thing to do is verify that the script runs in script editor.
 
> On Feb 25, 2015, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have the same problem.
> THe voiceover date and time script does not work.
> Not even my right command v for muting speech.
> That is not a script though.
> /A
>> 25 feb 2015 kl. 20:21 skrev The Believer :
>> 
>> Using scripts from the Talking Dashboard, placed in ~/Library/Scripts. 
>> Unedited as I am not able to get these to work after pointing the 
>> Keyboard commander to the script in its folder. So its not the script 
>> itself. Default modifier key is right option.
>> 
>> For example, the date and time script. If I set the commander back to 
>> the default time of day, option t gives me the desired result. Set to 
>> the date and time script, nothing, no click, no ding, just silence.
>> 
>> What am I missing. It has to be so simple I am overlooking it.
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Time Capsule on a u-verse router

[Joseph]

Hello,
Thanks. Thats also a good point, because I do want back to my mac enabled.

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I prefer running the AirPort directly facing the Internet, for that way the 
> guest network and Back To My Mac features are available.
> 
> U-Verse is often just (V)DSL.  It might be worthwhile your investing in a 
> modem that does the bridging, such as Draytek 120/130.  Or, see if you can 
> get your modem into bridge mode.
> 
> Of course, if you aren’t bothered about guest networking or BTMM, you could 
> roll with the easier option of letting their modem do the routing, but meh, 
> that’s just surrender. :)
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Re: Time Capsule on a u-verse router

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I prefer running the AirPort directly facing the Internet, for that way the 
guest network and Back To My Mac features are available.

U-Verse is often just (V)DSL.  It might be worthwhile your investing in a modem 
that does the bridging, such as Draytek 120/130.  Or, see if you can get your 
modem into bridge mode.

Of course, if you aren’t bothered about guest networking or BTMM, you could 
roll with the easier option of letting their modem do the routing, but meh, 
that’s just surrender. :)

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Re: 'Phorm' Case Adds Morphing Tactile Keyboard to iPad Mini - Mac Rumors

[BobH.]

Even a tactile keyboard is a start, but SpeedDots cover this for a lot less, 
so there's lots more scope for development yet, though its current structure 
might well limit that.

R.
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Subject: Re: 'Phorm' Case Adds Morphing Tactile Keyboard to iPad Mini - Mac 
Rumors


>From the comments it seems that it just creates raised bumps over the
keys, not any arbitrary bump pattern. So it won't work in landscape
typing or for adding tactile feedback to any other UI elements.

CB

On 2/12/15 4:07 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
> I thought that some on the list might find the link below interesting.
>
>> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/12/phorm-morphing-ipad-mini-keyboard/
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